BIG BORE Showdown! KTM 500 XC vs Husaberg 650 vs Husaberg FE570 vs XR650R vs DRZ400

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Rudi Fowler

Rudi Fowler

Күн бұрын

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@leegriep75
@leegriep75 7 жыл бұрын
Why are people hating on the xr 650 rider? Is it hard to believe that the 500 having more hp and being a lighter bike would out accelerate the xr? Smaller motors have been outperforming larger motors for some time now. They just just don't last as long.
@TrygveJohannSørensen
@TrygveJohannSørensen 7 күн бұрын
Correct. I have owned both xr650r, 450, 500, 530 exc and 690smc.. and a 450exc is still more frisky than the xr650r. Xr is a cool bike. But not as fast, its very heavy for its power.. 60hp crank and 45 wheel aint that much.. my 690 is pushin 70.4 wheel with dyno papers... (full evo 2 kit)
@BSF628
@BSF628 8 жыл бұрын
That DRZ 400 was going to loose from the start...lol
@francisplante3858
@francisplante3858 4 жыл бұрын
I got a Husaberg 570FE. It's a pure love. Iam sure any bike that day was a blast to ride! Thanks for the video! nice safe race ! It fun to watch
@washburnroad8816
@washburnroad8816 7 жыл бұрын
XR650R here - and my pig is pumped. !!
@gaalen111
@gaalen111 8 жыл бұрын
2004 and older FE650 is 650cc. 2005 and newer fe650 is 628cc
@sonMK5
@sonMK5 4 жыл бұрын
And delorto vs fcr the pre 04 models rip (when they work)
@oliver380
@oliver380 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 Husaberg FS 450 E, that blue smoke from the exhaust is not really a problem, it happens if you go with the bike at full RPM wide open throttle, the reason is, the engine breather tube is connected to the air box directly, so if at high constant RPM the timing chain spits the oil into the breather tube, then to the carb, then to the engine.
@haydenspence6952
@haydenspence6952 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder how a old cr480 would go against the big boys
@apbt391
@apbt391 2 жыл бұрын
berg for ever
@strickca991
@strickca991 3 жыл бұрын
Some bikes need a rider mod.
@rolandrodriguez3854
@rolandrodriguez3854 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a good comparison. With noobs on Husabergs. Ktm rider had his shit together.
@thefeministtoothbrush6957
@thefeministtoothbrush6957 7 жыл бұрын
650fe husaberg
@johnrambo2833
@johnrambo2833 8 жыл бұрын
Great video.. What went wrong on the Husaberg 650 in the end ?
@fowlerrudi1
@fowlerrudi1 8 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! The 650 Berg had a small bolt in the camshaft sprocket that was meant to limit the travel of the decompressor. This backed out and got into the engine which in turn took out the timing chain and snapped it. So far it looks like damage may be limited, but case hasn't been cracked yet. Head and piston are fine.
@husadev2897
@husadev2897 6 жыл бұрын
I watched this video last summer and literally the NEXT DAY i had my fs650 out and had the exact same thing happen... The worst part is that I had a modified decompression installed which made the bolt (that fell out) useless but my mechanic left it in anyways. Hopefully this one is all back together by now. Glad i found this video again to share my misery haha
@commantrosexetlos4700
@commantrosexetlos4700 5 жыл бұрын
it started before long time...they was exploting from day 1..they are wallpapers..just like 4 stroke ktm...wallpapers...2 stroke 100 times...100..its not a fucking ferrari to pay every 2 years 2000-3000 euro if you use her proper
@powerserge2624
@powerserge2624 4 жыл бұрын
?
@92clintonr
@92clintonr 3 жыл бұрын
@@commantrosexetlos4700 You don't have a clue do you? Ktm 4 strokes, namely the RFS engines were ridiculously reliable and guys are getting unheard of hours/miles out of them before a rebuild. My RFS has lasted two rebuilds to my buddies 300 2 stroke.
@a64738
@a64738 6 жыл бұрын
And in all the videos I have seen with and without rolling start on both tarmac and gravel the Yamaha WR450 with 42HP (the officiall number used when you pay tax for ithere in Norway) keeps up with the KTM EXC 500 all they way in acceleration and speed in drag race... But when they put WR450 on dyno it seems to have 44 - 48 HP at the real wheel while the EXC 500 only has 48-52 HP at the real wheel while the numbers I have seen say it has 62HP.
@92clintonr
@92clintonr 3 жыл бұрын
No. The 500 has never been stated to have 62. The old 525 RFS is what has 62. I have an old 525sx with the 6 speed conversion. It eats the newer 500's all day long.
@shavedape
@shavedape Жыл бұрын
@@92clintonr Aren't they all (530, 525, 501 and 500 from KTM/Husky) all still 510 cc? If some eat others all day long it may be due to the 6 speed transmission more than power levels. Though maybe they're tuned differently even if they have the same displacement/design.
@dusko.b_
@dusko.b_ 8 жыл бұрын
I think that it depends on many factors like sprocket engine condition tires rider....100 reces 100 different results
@nebulaunfolding
@nebulaunfolding 7 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened with my husaberg fe650. Great bike feels like a 450 on weight, loads of torque, toped out at 114.mph with no wind. But seized more than once on me at 80+ mph when facing a strong head wind. I later found out that the cylinder water jacket didn't flow fast enough for high load/heat conditions. The problem could be fixed but I long abandoned it with the dealers mechanic. Thanks for this video Im thinking of getting the husaberg fe570 as my next thumper.
@Zecadadega
@Zecadadega 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Where was the Xr? Mine does almost 170kmh all stock and 20 years running. The pilot wasn't good enough
@likeaboss882
@likeaboss882 8 жыл бұрын
I love how everyones dismissing the clear winners, the ktm and camera bike. New technology allows bikes like those to make more power with less displacement, with fuel injection among other things. Though, i havent bought it yet but i'd love a BRP, my first big bike was a xr250r, 1993.... Best $500 i spent.
@a64738
@a64738 5 жыл бұрын
My fuel injected 2019 KTM 500 EXC F feels like it has a lot more power then my old Yamaha 2005 mod WR450F but on paper and on the dyno they are not that much different... But then again the KTM has about 6-7 kg less weight to drag with it :)
@stevenbrooking5765
@stevenbrooking5765 5 жыл бұрын
My son had an XR200 that we used to ride around down the river tracks here. Since then Ive picked up a 95 XR250R for my wife, a 00 XR400R for myself, and just recently, an 01 XR650R for myself also. The Pig is an awesome bike to ride. May not be as fast as some of these modern bikes off the line, but it has tons more grunt where it counts. I gave the 400 to my son when I bought the Big Red Pig, because its all the bike I need👍
@fuqutube
@fuqutube 5 жыл бұрын
Now do that for 1000 miles in the desert.. XR650R wins..
@gixxer7907
@gixxer7907 4 жыл бұрын
1000 miles is nothing especially on the ktm rfs models... My ktm 450 exc has almost 500 hours on it and had 0 problems also my ktm 525 exc 120 hours 0 problems and much faster than an xr650 and handling is much better too
@johndunn9819
@johndunn9819 3 жыл бұрын
@@gixxer7907 so, how many Baja 1000 wins has the KTM won? In 2000 the first three bikes in Baja 1000 was XR650Rs ( essentially stock) In 2001 the first ten bikes in Baja 1000 was XR650Rs. No bike has ever dominated the Baja 1,000 like the xr650r
@gixxer7907
@gixxer7907 3 жыл бұрын
@@johndunn9819 I don't know anything about baja 1000 but around a track a ktm would embarrass a xr650... Xr650 are reliable but that's it, they're just a heavy tank down on power
@tracyhooker4355
@tracyhooker4355 Жыл бұрын
Yes XRs have one most of the Baja's. Also Honda has spent more money on XR than any other manufacturer for the Baja race's. But, look at the Paris Dakar races KTM'S, GasGas, BMW's and Honda's Also Kawasaki won guite few Baja races with the KX500. It really more about the manufacturers than any other bike being better that the other. If look at what the manufacturers are looking at, in the USA Honda will out spend any other manufacturer.
@fuqutube
@fuqutube Жыл бұрын
@@gixxer7907 mine kicks the crap out of the KTM here in N MI ... Its rider/bike combo.. Down on power? Lol mk.. 300 lb bike with 70 hp when you got the right bolt on stuff.. It is a tank, mine is still running.. Somehow.. All the KTM my friends own, always broken.. Just sayin, they aint winning..
@ArcticPride1
@ArcticPride1 8 жыл бұрын
12 was known as one of the "faster" prod years
@mandonini_
@mandonini_ 4 жыл бұрын
I got a FS 650 and the ktm 500
@topridefilms6359
@topridefilms6359 4 жыл бұрын
Which is better or faster ? 👍
@mandonini_
@mandonini_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@topridefilms6359 husaberg is more agressive in the mid range rpm ktm on top. Husaberg is a little bit faster its a race bike. But ktm is better for a daily and more reliable 👌
@topridefilms6359
@topridefilms6359 4 жыл бұрын
@@mandonini_ Thank you for your answer! 🤟🏁
@mandonini_
@mandonini_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@topridefilms6359 on my chanel you have videos of both bikes . No problem 🙂
@dltreecare6031
@dltreecare6031 7 жыл бұрын
The fastest bike there is the 650 Husaberg but they're not the most reliable.
@jnat7806
@jnat7806 5 жыл бұрын
D&L Tree Care true I have one an 06 in the barn for 2 years won’t start
@AkiwoxLP
@AkiwoxLP 4 жыл бұрын
@@jnat7806 better sell it to me ;)
@dltreecare6031
@dltreecare6031 2 жыл бұрын
@@AkiwoxLP I have one for sale if you’re interested. It’s a 2003 FS650C never ridden off road. Needs a back tire and a radiator.
@AkiwoxLP
@AkiwoxLP 2 жыл бұрын
@@dltreecare6031 I probably would, but I'm in Europe
@qwerty12345zxc
@qwerty12345zxc 8 жыл бұрын
Honda is very fast bike for 1/4 mebe dirver have bad skill
@TheFrankyj51
@TheFrankyj51 7 жыл бұрын
that bike wasnt running right or something
@nebulaunfolding
@nebulaunfolding 7 жыл бұрын
The 650R probably is the most reliable bike here due to large oil capacity and old stile valve train. Great low end and medium torque, but lacks in top end horsepower. You can install power up kits, high compression piston and hotter cams that will give it good top end power. But its still a little on the heavy side. I ride one as my daly rider because of its reliability.
@TheFrankyj51
@TheFrankyj51 7 жыл бұрын
Those bikes aint that heavy, you get used too them. Gotta crack open a can of man...even then they can still put u in shitty situations
@nebulaunfolding
@nebulaunfolding 7 жыл бұрын
Your right the XR650R is a mans bike, and compared to Japanese 650s they are light. 650R 277.pounds dry. fe 650 240. pounds dry. My fe 650 engine seized under high load heat conditions. My xr650r still going strong.
@mperhaps
@mperhaps 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Mister Free Balling Folding, your assessments are spot on in every way. You seem to every strong and weak point about the 650R
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 6 жыл бұрын
...then a CR500 comes along and crushes all of them..
@joebacon1915
@joebacon1915 5 жыл бұрын
Then i being the aprilia xv v twin to crush the cr500
@StrykerV8
@StrykerV8 3 жыл бұрын
Found the 125 rider. 500 2 strokes are not fast anymore, modern 450s make more power.
@prospectorsoils1240
@prospectorsoils1240 Жыл бұрын
@@StrykerV8 450's make about the same HP but 500 2-strokes make huge torque. If you can get them to hook they win. Plus they sound way better. I've owned almost all the big bores. Over 10 CR500's, KX500, KTM550, XR650R, Husqvarna610, BERG570. The Berg is hard to beat for versatility. Power and handling combination are really hard to beat. Nothing will put a smile on your face faster than a really good running 500 2-stroke. I'm planning on building a BRC 500 from a KTM base shortly.
@rojodogg
@rojodogg 8 жыл бұрын
funny the fat and heavy guy was on the XR which is way faster bike, was suprised to see the KTM beat the FE 650. Did you know KTM is 49% owed by the Indian bike maker Bajaj.
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