Big changes in the 2024 Budget have led to real anger on UK family farms. What's going on?

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Harry's Farm

Harry's Farm

Күн бұрын

In last week's Budget, the new Labour Government introduced revised tax rates for Inheritance Tax. From April 2026, the 100% Agricultural Property relief will only be on the first £1,000,000, after that the rate will be 20%. This video explains why this is going to be so damaging to UK family farms.

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@Andy_T79
@Andy_T79 18 күн бұрын
Imagine this happening in France!... they'd soon put their government back under their rock 💯
@paulyflyer8154
@paulyflyer8154 18 күн бұрын
It's already happened in Holland but govt used nitrogen as an excuse to rob the land.
@Lusitani74
@Lusitani74 18 күн бұрын
Paris would be full of tractors by now...and manure.
@aesma2522
@aesma2522 18 күн бұрын
I don't think farmland is that valuable in France. However you can't easily buy it if you don't plan on using it for farming, even though we do have some rich people buying it and having a couple of horses or something like that. I've just looked into it and there are inheritance taxes to pay when inheriting a farm. However there are ways to minimize them, for starters a farm is a company, and companies can be inherited using a tax "loophole" that lowers the taxes due. There is also something specific for farms. But overall I wouldn't be surprised a 10 million euros farm would lead to a more than 1 million euros tax bill. In France a 10 million farm is probably a wheat farm generating millions a year...
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 18 күн бұрын
Historically/legally the French divide their farms between their children, which is why French farms are on average smaller than UK farms.The good news is that this demonstrates UK farmers can start to pay a relatively tiny amount of inheritance tax and allow their children to continue farming. Maybe keep this quiet during the protests. It gets worse because French farmers also pay inheritance tax on farmland too. Don't mention that the French also avoid VAT on private schools.
@nwhitten7306
@nwhitten7306 18 күн бұрын
​@@aesma2522land is a fraction of the value in France check out farming life at la forge Laura and declan will explain how they sold 9 acres in Ireland to 1200 acres in France
@robm.4512
@robm.4512 18 күн бұрын
We’re a 100 acre family farm in SouthWest Cornwall. Because land values and property prices here are extremely high and our income is very low, it’s about the worst case. There’s no way we or our son could ever afford to settle the tax burden on passing it on. We’re both in our early-mid sixties now and both we and our son are absolutely f^cked. As for a number of other aspects of Reeves’ budget, she appears to have put a bullseye on so many other low income and defenceless sectors of society, while protecting huge corporations and investors, that it beggars belief. I’m not angry, I’m absolutely bloody incandescent!🤬
@isolationstation5157
@isolationstation5157 18 күн бұрын
Why can you not gift the farm to your son early in order to avoid the tax? Does the 0% tax after 7 year rule not apply to this?
@Onyourbiketoo
@Onyourbiketoo 18 күн бұрын
@@isolationstation5157 exactly … planning … it’s what we all have to do.
@wonderwatch2239
@wonderwatch2239 18 күн бұрын
@@isolationstation5157is it at all possible to gift 10+ million £ with 5-10 k a year 🤷‍♂️
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 18 күн бұрын
​@@isolationstation5157 if you benefit from the land or property then it is an invalid gift. Plus there maybe other taxes in changing ownership
@lesliesmith4846
@lesliesmith4846 18 күн бұрын
@@isolationstation5157 By doing this would it not trigger a CGT issue that could create a far worse situation?
@allanfoster6965
@allanfoster6965 18 күн бұрын
Side note. Inheritence tax doesn't happen to corporate farms. This is an attack on family farms.
@craigmala
@craigmala 18 күн бұрын
They want the land and farms in the hand of the government like the old soviet Russia.
@sarahjones-jf4pr
@sarahjones-jf4pr 18 күн бұрын
VERY GOOD POINT.
@cambsfarmer
@cambsfarmer 18 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, it will
@andrewmellon5072
@andrewmellon5072 18 күн бұрын
I believe inheritance tax relief should only be available to full time farmers and their full time successors on the farms they work and there should limits. Sir Dyson in my view with 250 employees should pay inheritance tax like everyone else as his his employees have too. In Ireland full farmers can leave or transfer to each of their children 4 million Euro of land, stock, machinery, farmhouse, entitlements and working capitial. When you take valuations which are very subjective this can be 5 million plus I think this is about I think the farmers in the Cotswolds are doing something wrong, probably should keep sheep or dairy and less machines, because lots of Irish farmers are making 60,000 euro on on much less land. Diary are disappointed that their income is back to 1600 per Ha. The direct grants are better there.
@irisaviation852
@irisaviation852 18 күн бұрын
This is the point……that is why it’s so unfair. Let’s tax corporate farms every 60 years…..
@wokeybrokey8006
@wokeybrokey8006 12 күн бұрын
I think it’s fine to be taxed if the person inherits and sells but it ludicrous to tax them if they are continuing to work the farm.
@TheLRider
@TheLRider 17 күн бұрын
I'll leave this here from a report by the BBC who aren't exactly a friend of our Rachel. "There were a total of 462 inherited farms valued above £1m in 2021-22, according to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC):" Farmers being asked to pay half of what we ordinary tax payers pay when we wish to pass on our inheritance to our kids.
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
This is probably what Bill Gates discussed with Starmer in Downing Street when he visited him last month. He knows lots about the subject being the largest farmland owner in the US. We'll just end up with unsustainable farming practices owned by degnerate billionaire globalists.
@chriswilkinson1991
@chriswilkinson1991 17 күн бұрын
Hmmm not sure I agree Harry, which is rare as I normally agree with most of what you say
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
Why?
@bobmcgrath1272
@bobmcgrath1272 4 сағат бұрын
@@bw1376envy most likely
@bw1376
@bw1376 4 сағат бұрын
@@bobmcgrath1272 They hate anyone slightly more successful, especially entrepreneurs who are willing to take risks like Metcalfe, Clarkson and Dyson.
@kevinbhunt
@kevinbhunt 18 күн бұрын
Everyone needs to share this video, spread the word. Well done Harry
@dudejames5681
@dudejames5681 18 күн бұрын
17.48 in "then I think land will end up in the wrong hands" its no coincedence the day before the budget Starmer & Reeves had a meeting with William H Gates and his Gates foundation CEO. Starmer quote: "It was great to meet with Bill Gates this week. We discussed how the UK can support global health development and use the net zero goal to invest in science and technology, creating new jobs. Labour will boost growth and protect the environment with our Green Prosperity Plan." Bill Gates is the biggest private owner of farmland in the United States. In total, Gates owns approximately 242,000 acres of farmland with assets totaling more than $690m. Wake up Harry..
@josephkaz9093
@josephkaz9093 9 күн бұрын
But Harry, you make comparisons about the value of the land, but the reason the land is so valuable is exactly because it's being used as a tax planning mechanism. The value of this land should soon start to reflect it's actual value in terms of food production making it far, far more affordable for those that want to expand their farms or enter the industry. It should also lower the IHT bill because the value is now normalised.
@jonathancollard3710
@jonathancollard3710 18 күн бұрын
A farm around me in Hampshire was sold 3 years ago to a big corporation. Within 6 months my workshop rent was increased 350%…. as were all the other small businesses in the “business park” (knackered old farm sheds actually). The positives are that they are clearly working the asset more intensively as field margins have deduced from 10m to 2m wide, miles of hedges grubbed out, previously unworked fields put into crop (obviously using more advanced and expensive machinery), a massive grain dryer built and garages/buildings circa 2 football pitches constructed. Negative side effects are footpaths re-routed and tractor blasting down the back lane’s irresponsibly because they appear to be short term contractors that don’t know nor care whereas the old farmer lived in the community and understood dangerous blind corners etc.
@charlesmoss8119
@charlesmoss8119 16 күн бұрын
And clever tax accountants who make sure they pay very little tax and of course as a business they can manage inheritance through corporation law - next they will shut the farm and build a 'solar farm' 😢
@jonathancollard3710
@jonathancollard3710 15 күн бұрын
@@charlesmoss8119 well there is a clue in their name RedBrown… literally 🤪
@johnmull59
@johnmull59 18 күн бұрын
The farm/land has no value until it is sold, and at that point and only at that point should it be subject to tax. If Labour, or any government for that matter cannot understand that, we are in trouble. Perhaps the banks that specialise in farming need to join the farmers to challenge this ludicrous tax change.
@chiefsilverback
@chiefsilverback 17 күн бұрын
This is the obvious solution. No tax is due all the time the farm is active. If the kids inherit the farm and decide to sell it off for redevelopment then tax them on the proceeds of the sale.
@NGC1433
@NGC1433 16 күн бұрын
@@chiefsilverback Solution to what? I think you missed the point of the change. It is meant to bankrupt the small farmers so they are forced to sell their land to government endorsed giant corporations. This is THE PERFECT solution.. :D
@nelsonglover3963
@nelsonglover3963 13 күн бұрын
Lots of things are taxed without sale. Tax is merely a mechanism for the government to make money whilst ecouraging certain behaviours and discouraging others. Lots of reasons to disagree with the policy, but that isn't one.
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
Everyone else in the UK that needs to pay 40% inheritance tax at a far lower threshold than is being proposed for you (£1,500,000 - £3,000,000 before paying 20% instead of 40% over 10 years) don't matter of course... It's okay we'll just pay to prop you up and rich people who buy farms as a tax loophole, don't worry.
@chiefsilverback
@chiefsilverback 7 күн бұрын
​@@evulclown close the loop hole. If the farm has been in continuous use for XX years, and remains in continuous use for YY years after inheritance then no tax. As Harry points out in this video, a £5,000,000 'asset' may only turn £100,000/profit, so it would take 10 years of profit to pay off the inheritance tax, and what does the farmer live on for that decade? If you inherit £5,000,000 in cash it's very easy to count off 20% of it and pay the tax bill, but you can't just pull 20% of the value out of working farm.
@nicke6394
@nicke6394 18 күн бұрын
Sadly it’s not just farmers, it’s pretty much every privately owned SME in the country! Not surprised, this Government has absolutely no business experience within their fold, they’re all civil servants!
@tombley5760
@tombley5760 18 күн бұрын
Who needs business experience when you've got a self-authorised monopoly on the legal initiation of lethal violence?
@jamesdecross1035
@jamesdecross1035 18 күн бұрын
@@tombley5760 On what…?
@Xyzabc998
@Xyzabc998 18 күн бұрын
they are getting a 50% reduction. How have the Tories supported business over the past 14 years? Most other people are angry about food banks, NHS waiting lists and crap education.
@integralevideo
@integralevideo 18 күн бұрын
@@Xyzabc998 They had no alternative. People on PAYE are already taxed to the max. This video goes under the banner of "nice try". I think a garage full of supercars tells the story.
@SS-yw7vo
@SS-yw7vo 18 күн бұрын
They want to destroy the middle class and private property ownership
@GuyChapman
@GuyChapman 18 күн бұрын
I think the answer to the entire conundrum lies in the sharp rise in recent years. Bankers buying farmland to avoid IHT. And rich industrialists whose business is not in Singapore... How do you fix that? Because it's making farmland completely ridiculous. Anyway, I wrote to my MP, sharing this. I recommend others do too.
@LauraDempsey
@LauraDempsey 18 күн бұрын
Exactly this. I’m very disappointed Harry completely neglected to cover this argument.
@thecrankster
@thecrankster 18 күн бұрын
If the farm land is £2.5 million the animals and machinery is still another 2-3 million. That’s not pushed up by speculation or tax planning. Government would still want 400k plus on that. It’s madness.
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 18 күн бұрын
​@@thecranksterWhere Harry lives Grade 1 agricultural land is going for £35K an acre that price is not driven by an industry that is marginally profitable, that is driven by the wealthy wanting to live somewhere nice while avoiding inheritance tax.
@carmadme
@carmadme 17 күн бұрын
This whole policy smells of trying to fix just this I don't know how a reduction in land price would affect farmers finances but listening to harry here it sounds like it won't I think there needs to be a "family farm" clause plus a raise from that 1m
@GuyChapman
@GuyChapman 17 күн бұрын
@@LauraDempsey I don't think he neglected to, the programme is pretty full, you can only cover so much IMO.
@Richkettfarmer
@Richkettfarmer 18 күн бұрын
Completely agree my family farm has a return of 0.5% on the value of the farm so it will take almost 20yrs profit to pay the tax bill it’s completely stupid
@irisaviation852
@irisaviation852 18 күн бұрын
You got your maths wrong, you will need to pay tax on the profit before you can use it to pay IHT. If you sell land, you will need to pay capital gains…..it’s much worse than you think
@p44web
@p44web 18 күн бұрын
And the next generation and the next
@peterww3241
@peterww3241 18 күн бұрын
It's supposed to be completely stupid. The WEF wants to make family farms completely inviable. It's all part of The Great Taking (see book and video of that name by David Webb). Be under no illusion, there is a plan to take family farms into corporate ownership. Act accordingly.
@leeboss373
@leeboss373 18 күн бұрын
Gift your land (not the house) to your kids, 7 years before you die. After 7 years 0% of IHT 5-6 yrs 16% 4-5 yrs 24% 3-4 yrs 33% of IHT
@leeboss373
@leeboss373 18 күн бұрын
Gift the land (not the house) to your kids, 7 years before dye. After 7 years 0% of IHT 5-6 yrs 16% 4-5 yrs 24% 3-4 yrs 33% of IHT
@jamesparker4782
@jamesparker4782 17 күн бұрын
Apparently the billionaires are buying farm land . Does that have anything to do with it ....?
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
Bill Gates visited Starmer in Downing Street last month. Gates think he knows lots about farming as he is now the largest owner of farmland in the US. Labour's policy will mean we will just end up with unsustainable megafarms owned by degenerate billionaires.
@skygod1067
@skygod1067 17 күн бұрын
James Dyson owning 25,000 acres purely to avoid tax is the root to this tax
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
According to the Sunday Times, Dyson paid around £156m in taxes in the UK last year.
@midlandgeordie
@midlandgeordie 3 күн бұрын
and took his work abroad post Brexit
@mikeaugust747
@mikeaugust747 Күн бұрын
This talk in the comments about tax dodging and rich people is a story to sell this new law to the public at large. It is a side issue. Inheritance tax is a way to keep people poor, born poor, die poor. Everybody starts from zero, and the idea of a "family" is thwarted by economic means.
@LeighW1973
@LeighW1973 18 күн бұрын
As an accountant, it's been an 'interesting' week. It isn't just APR that's under the cosh, it's the same for other businesses with BPR (business property relief). This seems to have gone largely unnoticed fir some reason. It's an utter disgrace. I act for a few farms, many people assume all farmers are rich, it is absolutely not the case.
@snakewad123
@snakewad123 18 күн бұрын
@@LeighW1973 can you explain to me please why a £30million farm that generates 30k a year is even a thing ? I'm not versed in this but I'm sure you can easily make more than 1% in property and investments ? You could sell 1/4 of it and then buy tons of property and rent it out and make more than 30k a year and just chill in your big farmhouse that's been paid off and save up
@irisaviation852
@irisaviation852 18 күн бұрын
@@LeighW1973 i agree, there are many multigenerational firms that will end up being sold to big corporations that don’t pay IHT.
@fraserwright9482
@fraserwright9482 18 күн бұрын
Also as your job is to avoid people paying tax, what are the main loopholes that you see being exploited unethically that should be looked at?
@irisaviation852
@irisaviation852 18 күн бұрын
@@fraserwright9482grow up…….i employ accountants to make sure I pay the correct tax.
@DPWestMids-u3c
@DPWestMids-u3c 18 күн бұрын
the removal of BPR for trading companies is also a huge issue. Many farms operate as corporates anyway so their shareholders need to rely on BPR. APR relates to land held as an individual or partnership which is getting rarer these days. Labour totally clueless on all business matters.
@AIJLarkin
@AIJLarkin 18 күн бұрын
I think it is more of a run on Rich people buying farms or large holdings to avoid inheritance tax and the farmers are being punished without thought. Clarkson has been quite open and smug about his farm being inheritance free, which may have spurred the idea
@malcomthewasp
@malcomthewasp 17 күн бұрын
There’s a vacuum cleaner guy, who’s purchased large swaths of Lincolnshire and Norfolk for that exact reason… Side note… he’s purchased lots and lots of family farms which people seemingly have been happy to sell to him.. also many agri merchants have gone under around here, as he has the purchasing power to deal directly with equipment manufactures..
@philipjamesparsons
@philipjamesparsons 16 күн бұрын
This is going on and that is why land prices have risen to about 11k per acre. I do know of several horse farms in the area that are owned by wealthy people and only lose money. But, previously if you can operate under the pretence of commercial farming, no IHT.
@The-Big-Tebowski
@The-Big-Tebowski 16 күн бұрын
This is why they did it. You have them to thank
@XenonJohnD
@XenonJohnD 16 күн бұрын
It will be interesting to see if the prices of forest land and hotels with a functioning restaurant go up. Are these not also used as vehicles to avoid inheritance tax?
@AIJLarkin
@AIJLarkin 16 күн бұрын
@@malcomthewasp the other problem with Dyson buying so much is that, in turn, it has raised the land values. So it’ll be harder for genuine people wanting to be farmers to get started and more tempting for farmers to sell. It’d be interesting to see what percentage of land he is farming a crop on too considering it’s 36000 acres he owns. It certainly seems he’s in it for tax dodging and experimenting rather than feeding people.
@IverKnackerov
@IverKnackerov 18 күн бұрын
I guess the question is, if the land is worth way more than the profit that can be generated, then something else is impacting the value of the land ? What is that ? Speculating? Change of use? Other people hiding their cash from inheritance tax liabilities?
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
it's 100% rich people buying farms and land to tax dodge, which is what is actually hurting farmers as well as pushing up landprices hurting them more. This law stops them and will also drop land prices.
@DavidBreakwell
@DavidBreakwell 16 күн бұрын
As if metropolitan London gives a stuff about anything rural, their ignorance is staggering and frightening in equal measure.
@tonyedgecombe6631
@tonyedgecombe6631 14 күн бұрын
That goes both ways. I don't expect farmers are thinking about the inheritance tax on fairly ordinary houses in London that people want to pass on to their children.
@Absolute_Casual
@Absolute_Casual 18 күн бұрын
A common issue in Wales is the amount of farms left with no productivity. People inherit them tax free and then just sit on them without generating output from the land. A tax would mean that those taking on the farm are more likely to be committed to generating revenue from the land. Ie, if you want to take on the farm, you cant afford to let it sit doing nothing.
@Absolute_Casual
@Absolute_Casual 18 күн бұрын
I'm not in favour of the tax, but I can see an argument for implementing it outside of it just being a cash grab.
@marks7471
@marks7471 18 күн бұрын
Big up from Germany 👍 Inheritance tax should be abolished right across the board. It's a killer of small business families. Even for private families. The tax has been paid many times already on the income. Meanwhile large tech companies get away with.. well I dont know.
@ColliWobblers-d1b
@ColliWobblers-d1b 18 күн бұрын
Its bloody tyrannical and medi-evil.
@pnsp33
@pnsp33 18 күн бұрын
In Germany only 15% of the business get inheritance taxed. If the children continue the business under the same circumstances. Farms can get up to 100% exemption. Stop spreading misinformation.
@peterww3241
@peterww3241 18 күн бұрын
Starmer and the WEF are using Inheritance Tax deliberately to make family businesses inviable.
@jamesdecross1035
@jamesdecross1035 18 күн бұрын
@@pnsp33 Perhaps that should be the criteria - if circumstances stay the same, remove the tax, but do it for all SMEs.
@ck166666
@ck166666 18 күн бұрын
Generational farmers are victims of the current tax structure. Land values are high because there is 100% relief and non farmers have bought farms to benefit from no inheritance tax. In a business context farm land is a piece of equipment or raw material from which income is generated - currently having been inflated by demand from people purchasing for tax benefit not to actually farm the cost is too high and margin too small. Land values need to drop by about 20% - this change to tax laws will deter the tax dodgers. when this happens the genuine farmers will benefit
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
people like harry, who is a rich man with a car magazine, are the rich people who bought farm land to avoid paying inheritance tax and drove the land prices up. This law ends that tax loophole. But what's funny is here people are watching a video by one of the rich people who causes problems to farms, in their greed to never pay tax to the country they live in, feeding everyone disinformation acting like this law change is an attack on farmers and not rich tax dodgers like him.
@martinhambleton5076
@martinhambleton5076 18 күн бұрын
Bless you Harry. Keep up the good work. Very well put sir. I am also a farmer. The true ramifications of this have not been considered. The agricultural supply and support sector are also going to feel the effects of this.
@tonychambers6275
@tonychambers6275 18 күн бұрын
Labour will destroy this country, they have already lost the next election
@stevespell9634
@stevespell9634 18 күн бұрын
Maybe picket outside foodbanks around the UK to drum up some support. Heart bleeds!
@gregorygalvin5357
@gregorygalvin5357 14 күн бұрын
So if your bringing in 50-60k a year after all farm costs and prob living in a house with no mortgage your doing extremely well each month.
@matthewcole1933
@matthewcole1933 18 күн бұрын
I fear it's land clearance for housing and solar, unfortunately, and by clearing our custodians of the countryside out of there living, whilst they can generate a tax income from the destruction of farming, they believe this is acceptable. The misunderstanding of asset value required, v/s yearly income, was so well explained. Unfortunately, above the intelligence of those that should be building a better country, not dismantling it.
@inh415
@inh415 18 күн бұрын
Most farmers are happy to sell for housing developments AFAIk. Planning permission is the problem.
@alex_yates
@alex_yates 18 күн бұрын
The Communists are implementing Holodomor 2.0. Unfortunately, most people don't read history books, so history will repeat itself.
@OOpSjm
@OOpSjm 18 күн бұрын
Yup Just a way to force people to sell.
@peterww3241
@peterww3241 18 күн бұрын
@@OOpSjm Yes!
@peterww3241
@peterww3241 18 күн бұрын
It's not above their intelligence; but they have zero interest in building a better country. In fact, they want to destroy it and they are already well on their way to doing it. They don't think like we do. They have a plan to take all small businesses into corporate ownership.
@nickgerman5022
@nickgerman5022 18 күн бұрын
This budget is a disgrace. Difficult to watch and just makes me angry.
@MachinesOfInterest
@MachinesOfInterest 18 күн бұрын
Its not a budget its UN AGENDA 2030 for sustainable development.
@Xyzabc998
@Xyzabc998 18 күн бұрын
yes prioritising the low paid, people on the NHS waiting list, the 2mn food banks rather than Harry, Clarkson and Dyson with estates worth more than 3mn which they have ten years, to pay, pay half what all other businesses have to and can avoid it by transferring the farm to his family beforehand.
@RemoteViewr
@RemoteViewr 18 күн бұрын
The entire point is to force family farms onto the market to be bought by and folded into massive crony corporations
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 18 күн бұрын
My estate is worth about £3 million at the moment. My children will pay £1 million in inheritance tax on this basis. If I was a farmer they would pay nothing. Funny that farmers save a £1 million in inheritance tax compared to the rest of us and they are still whining and moaning. Moooooo.
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 18 күн бұрын
@@Xyzabc998 It is amazing that very very wealthy and privileged people expect to pay less/no tax and VAT compared to most other people and think this is OK. I loved the line that James Dyson avoiding inheritance tax on over £500 million "could be seen as annoying". This demonstrates such an extreme level of self importance.
@kip8790
@kip8790 15 күн бұрын
If you’re pissed off with all this tax, blame the children that put us in this horrendous situation, not the adults who have come in to clear up the mess.
@chrisroberts6229
@chrisroberts6229 13 күн бұрын
Thanks Harry. Yet again, you take what is not only a very complex item but also in this case, very emotionally charged, and you present it in a way that's understandable, compassionate and heart felt. Really enjoy you sharing with us your insights in to the world of farming. Both you and your mate Mr Clarkson, continue to do the sector proud. Cheers. Chris.
@andrewliddell7130
@andrewliddell7130 13 күн бұрын
Another good video, all the figures laid out. 100% agree with you. Maybe it is time to hold back on supplying. I'm sure they'll get pissed off when they've had no milk for a few days.. 🚜"NO FARMS, NO FOOD, NO FUTURE"🚜
@C4sp3r123
@C4sp3r123 18 күн бұрын
Excellent video Harry, covers the topic very well.
@randomtravel1489
@randomtravel1489 18 күн бұрын
As usual a very thoughtful and well researched video on a fundamentally important subject that is critical to the future of every farmer and UK resident.
@elliotpollard9083
@elliotpollard9083 18 күн бұрын
It's not that well researched because the numbers are up for debate.
@cromulentparty
@cromulentparty 18 күн бұрын
Funny how the Royal Family don't pay inheritance tax on their castles but farmers have to!
@mattygee2394
@mattygee2394 18 күн бұрын
Should be 100% exempt from IHT as long as the farm remains in the family. If it is sold in the following 25 years, IHT should be clawed back at the time of the sale.
@TT_1221
@TT_1221 18 күн бұрын
But I guess if a farm is sold later or at any time it would attract Capital Gains Tax anyway on Sale so you surely couldn't have IHT and Capital Gains applied together ..
@mattygee2394
@mattygee2394 18 күн бұрын
@@TT_1221 IHT is 40% and CGT will be 24%. Would be possible to charge the extra 16% in this scenario.
@IverKnackerov
@IverKnackerov 18 күн бұрын
Define “family” …?
@jncg2311
@jncg2311 18 күн бұрын
@@IverKnackerov Offspring, sibling, or their issue. This is the natural way of farming families staying on the 'home' farm.
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
Why? So the UK tax payers prop up your poorly managed nepotism with massive amounts of land and paying no tax back to a society you benefit from and live in? Don't worry it's only 20% for farmers, the rest of the UK pays 40% so we're still propping you up.
@nickhealey3388
@nickhealey3388 18 күн бұрын
This government is trying to destroy farming. Well said Harry
@themekfrommars
@themekfrommars 17 күн бұрын
Their efforts aren't contained to just farming!
@johnmilburn5715
@johnmilburn5715 17 күн бұрын
This government will destroy everything it can.......they always do. God, I feel so sorry for the farming community.
@nickhealey3388
@nickhealey3388 17 күн бұрын
​@@themekfrommars They are ruining the country i agree with you
@v4skunk739
@v4skunk739 17 күн бұрын
Conservatives would have done the same too, vote Reform next time.
@AlP94424
@AlP94424 17 күн бұрын
The gov has it's orders and know exactly what to do, they only have a short time to implement destruction before 2030
@leeboss373
@leeboss373 18 күн бұрын
They want your land! You will own nothing.
@tmp3162
@tmp3162 18 күн бұрын
Some still don't see it. Even Harry is looking for some other explanation. Everything according to the 2030 and 2050 agenda!
@softytop1000
@softytop1000 18 күн бұрын
💯 land grab
@Xyzabc998
@Xyzabc998 18 күн бұрын
don't be silly
@RemoteViewr
@RemoteViewr 18 күн бұрын
The entire point is to force family farms onto the market to be bought by and folded into massive crony corporations
@tz7813
@tz7813 18 күн бұрын
@@Xyzabc998dont be naive.
@Gwril76
@Gwril76 8 күн бұрын
Great video Harry. You've really helped with explaining this mess created by our wonderful government. Many thanks 👍🏼
@Michael-v1v8n
@Michael-v1v8n 17 күн бұрын
I sympathise. However, land is overvalued partially because of inheritance tax breaks. Most land sold today is not to farmers. Would losing this break bring land values back in the reach of farmers ?
@ELBigYuyo
@ELBigYuyo 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for educating us regarding UK situation.
@tonyedgecombe6631
@tonyedgecombe6631 14 күн бұрын
You've only had half an education, there is a whole other side to this story.
@richardmosley4549
@richardmosley4549 18 күн бұрын
Thank you Harry! I'm not a farmer but am (almost!) as angry as you at this shortsighted and wholly unworkable policy. I've always tended to live near farms, as a kid loved helping out with hay bailing, and remember my father always telling me, 'Don't ever mess with a farmer, son....' Keep fighting Harry 🚜💪
@johnsmith-ls4rc
@johnsmith-ls4rc 18 күн бұрын
To look at this from another point of view, are you not arguing to keep the cart before the horse in perpetuity? There has to be good reasons why farmland has been consistently sold for far more per acre, than can be justified on the basis of growing crops or livestock. Why haven't farmers been protesting for the last decade to remove land inheritance, development and speculation tax breaks, so they can be left in peace to grow crops and manage the land sustainably. I nearly bought some grade 2 arable land in 1992 for £1500 an acre, which could just about provide a purely farming return on investment. The policies that have happened since then, to create this bubble, should have been derided by the CLA , NFU etc etc at the time. The deafening silence for years , means I am now struggling to shed many tears.
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 18 күн бұрын
Exactly. Farmers could easily choose to protest to keep farm land only for farming. This would keep down the price of farmland and avoid inheritance tax. Farmers are complaining because they are far more concerned about keeping inherited wealth. It is all about greed.
@integralevideo
@integralevideo 17 күн бұрын
@@Ztandard32 It is definitely about greed. They take payments from the State to do nothing on their land. Is it me or is that communism?
@brettsta72
@brettsta72 17 күн бұрын
@@johnsmith-ls4rc it does they just don’t want to sell it and want to moan about being hard done by when in actual fact they are still taxed less than anyone else.
@whatsthisnow101
@whatsthisnow101 17 күн бұрын
Working 7 days a week for pittance is about greed. Hardly.
@wcads623
@wcads623 14 күн бұрын
@@Ztandard32 Afraid so farmers have been protected for years.
@TomHeavey
@TomHeavey 2 күн бұрын
Harry, really enjoy your channels. I find it hard to buy your story that you farm ‘to be custodian of the countryside’ or ‘for the goodness of others’, bar your own children.
@a52466
@a52466 18 күн бұрын
It begs the question as to why the land value doesn’t reflect the economic value of the farming operation?
@johnsawdonify
@johnsawdonify 17 күн бұрын
APR?
@xeode
@xeode 17 күн бұрын
because the green belt and general protections of urbanising the countryside is very murky and grey. land that could only be used for a low return activity would naturally be priced very low, but the fact that it might not always be so and could one day get permission to build houses on etc makes it very valuable from a speculation point of view. the attractiveness of the asset class for dodging tax has also been its own worst enemy as people looking to park their riches pile in with their ill-gotten gains and push values well past what farming activity could justify itself. but no one complains when their asset is appreciating in value under their feet, only when that value is taxable is everyone up in arms. taking back that which should never have been is not a very popular telling of the tale compared to the sob story version if the government offered farmers the ability to irreversibly declare their farm land as forevermore only for farming, to the extent that the land became valued only as farmland, i wonder how many would write down their 'on paper' assets like that? to ensure that it could be handed down only as farmland under the threshold etc etc rather than a pile of many millions they want to debate should be tax free
@Trickynickymarts
@Trickynickymarts 17 күн бұрын
Simple answer is that they ain't makin any more! Some truth in that.
@paulgeaton
@paulgeaton 18 күн бұрын
What a state of affairs, it beggars belief. Do keep us posted on ways we, as the general public, can help you farmers to get this nonsense overturned.
@slothrr776
@slothrr776 18 күн бұрын
Didn't Clarkson brag about buying his farm to avoid IHT at the start of his show?
@stelamo
@stelamo 18 күн бұрын
yer and after his amazon tv show , he stayed out the country for a year , to avoid tax , then prob bought the farm with a offshore account .
@fraserwright9482
@fraserwright9482 18 күн бұрын
I think Harry and many genuine farmers will forget that not everyone is playing the honest game. We all know there is no IHT on this, the ten fold increase in farm land is not because of the high return being a farmer is it?
@user-kw5qt8po6v
@user-kw5qt8po6v 18 күн бұрын
@@fraserwright9482 Harry sold his previous farm for housing and bought a nice house in the Cotswolds with farm attached. Limiting his IHT and allowing him to amass a nice collection of tax efficient classic cars. Maybe not such an honest game, but I think most farmers would love to do the same if they are honest about it.
@1978chriswright
@1978chriswright 18 күн бұрын
The insurance company that bought Harrys previous farm sold the land for housing. Is there something wrong with your ears?
@Ovenman940
@Ovenman940 18 күн бұрын
@@fraserwright9482 They're not forgetting. Family farmers are incredibly shrewd businessmen who are able do things like... start car magazines. It's not by mistake that they're suddenly not mentioning the ability to sell equity, or that they depend on poorer contract farmers who inherit piss all. Their only flaw is forgetting how unconvincing it is to cry wolf when their other youtube channel is showing off their massive car collection.
@stever2168
@stever2168 18 күн бұрын
Great summary Harry - couldn't agree more and as a non-farmer in a rural town I would fully support any action farmers choose to take. Glad you mentioned the idea of tapering - it IS unjust and I think totally wrong that a small number of very wealthy people can avoid tax on thousands of acres - that's not about 'politics of envy' - it's about fairness. As you say they'd probably just avoid it another way sadly, but principles matter. For ordinary family farmers though this is devastating and, let's hope, between now and 2026 the government will come to appreciate the need for change. Keep talking!
@scottvirgogp
@scottvirgogp 18 күн бұрын
A very clear message, thanks for sharing Harry.
@s10lucky
@s10lucky 13 күн бұрын
I know nothing about this business but I always follow your other channel. Thank you for explaining it. I only hope most of the country see this video. It’s absolutely disgusting but this lot are systematically destroying the country, same as the last lot. They have no understanding of business generally and as someone self employed for 25 years it’s made me question whether it’s worth it anymore.
@upturnedkangaroo
@upturnedkangaroo 18 күн бұрын
Blame your chums James Dyson and Jeremy Clarkson, and others of their ilk, who bought vast acresges purely as a tax fiddle.
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
According to the Sunday Times, James Dyson paid £156m in taxes in the UK last year. All this is going to force small family farmers out of business while Starmer's new friend Bill Gates starts buying up land. He's already the largest owner of farmland in the United States.
@stevemawer848
@stevemawer848 16 күн бұрын
And, as usual, the Labour party has a knee jerk reaction that has a major detrimental impact on all but the ones they're supposedly targeting. Remember IR35 to catch Greg Dyke? Massive impact on the freelance workforce who have been progressively forced into inflexible permanent employment, just the thing to increase growth. Or is it?
@davidpearson243
@davidpearson243 18 күн бұрын
James Dyson owns 37,000 acres to avoid IT pushing up prices for people who want to farm for a profit
@alastairward2774
@alastairward2774 17 күн бұрын
It's a bit much quoting Dyson.
@VanderlyndenJengold
@VanderlyndenJengold 17 күн бұрын
Quoting Dyson shows how badly informed some folk are. He doesn't give a damn about any of you. He wanted Brexit, lied about it then upsticks and tootled off to Singapore.
@davidpearson243
@davidpearson243 17 күн бұрын
@@VanderlyndenJengold we haven’t had one of his hoovers in this house since Brexit
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
According to the Sunday Times, James Dyson paid around £156m in taxes last year. Supermarket's have already announced Labour's new budget is pushing up food and drink prices, which will probably impact you more than it will folk Dyson. Enjoy!
@davidpearson243
@davidpearson243 16 күн бұрын
@ Tesco managed to only scrape in £2.9 Billion in profit last years As Mandy Rice Davis famously said “They would say that wouldn’t they”
@wilsonc4027
@wilsonc4027 18 күн бұрын
It’s an absolute disgrace. I’m fed up with townies telling us what to do. None of these people will have ever set foot on a farm. We have to unite and strike.
@andrewlarking7492
@andrewlarking7492 18 күн бұрын
I’m not a farmer. I’d support this.
@snakewad123
@snakewad123 18 күн бұрын
​@@andrewlarking7492me too !
@patshiels5429
@patshiels5429 18 күн бұрын
Townies you mean your customers glad you hold them in such disregard
@sebastianguerre6868
@sebastianguerre6868 18 күн бұрын
If a townie dies and leaves 500k property then the people that inherit will pay inheritance tax. If a multi-millionaire owns a 30 million farm then the people that inherit don't pay inheritance tax, (or so it was) At the moment it seems to me that a £30 million farm that makes 30k per year isn't really worth 30 million without the inheritance tax dodge. The yield on investment is tiny, it doesn't make economic sense. If people have to sell land to pay inheritance tax then farms will get smaller and less efficient. However I think land prices will stay high, it's only a matter of time before the conservatives reverse the policy.
@snakewad123
@snakewad123 18 күн бұрын
@@sebastianguerre6868 wouldnt it be easy to make far more than 30k a year from £30million of investments if you sold all the land and bought stock or property and went sat on a beach ? Does seem odd
@underwrapped45
@underwrapped45 15 күн бұрын
Grandfather farmed in the North East. The past two generations have not farmed, but I will be with the farming community protesting in London later this month. Absolute travesty.
@clivemillington5740
@clivemillington5740 16 күн бұрын
Thanks Harry for this, a well considered appraisal of the Budget implications. Let’s hope government will appreciate the impact on farmers and the countryside.
@stevepennell8008
@stevepennell8008 18 күн бұрын
Guard and protect our farmers bless them all
@marklorne6790
@marklorne6790 18 күн бұрын
Well done Harry, the voice of reason. I'm not a farmer but have a lot of friends who are ; this is a continuation of the old class war.
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 18 күн бұрын
Exactly, the very very rich and very very privileged want to stay that way.
@RobertJelley
@RobertJelley 18 күн бұрын
It is not only farmers, it is all family companies
@robm.4512
@robm.4512 14 күн бұрын
@@RobertJelley Exactly, and that is a point that a great majority of people have failed to understand. What is also little understood is that ultimately all costs of any products or services business are handed on to the consumer, putting up prices at the till. These reductions in reliefs are essentially an indirect tax on the consumer. Because the very wealthy consumers barely notice the bump, while to those on the breadline any price increases are a virtually insurmountable penalty, the overall effect of these measures is to increase the standard of living disparity between wealthy and poor. I was previously under the impression that Labour stood for the opposite ideal, evidently I was mistaken. This whole affair is, not to mince words, an utter and absolutely absurd sh^tshow.
@nickryder9669
@nickryder9669 14 күн бұрын
@@robm.4512no people do understand the likes of Clarkson know exactly how to dodge tax while quadrupling your investment !
@robm.4512
@robm.4512 14 күн бұрын
@@nickryder9669 Not my investment ol’buck. I agree with you, that people who make a packet should pay their fair share according to their ability to pay, and Clarkson has considerable ability to pay, as does for instance Dyson who has bought up tens of thousands of acres of land to use for its utility in creating legal structures that enable him to avoid paying taxes. The problem is that the measures that Reeves has proposed are not going to have much impact on those people, whereas they will essentially destroy the healthy rural communities that are made up of people like me and mine who don’t have big incomes, far from it. We’re the small family farms that actually do care for the land and don’t rake in a pile of cash because of our inability to reach the economies of scale that the large agribusiness operators like Dyson and his merry fellow bandits can. The measures are ludicrously poorly targeted if the intent was to raise revenue to “fill the black hole,” while the negative impact that they will have on the lives of the average Joes who make up the rural communities and actually live and work in farming will be catastrophic. The way your post reads implies that you think that there’s only one sort of farmer, nothing could possibly be further from the truth. The ultimate effect that I see, going forward, is that increasing amounts of land will be bought up by large agribusinesses for the benefit of their principal owners and boards of directors… none of who give a tuppeny toss about the land, the soil, the environment, the wildlife, or the future for the people who have been guardians of it for generations. The land and particularly its soils are finite resources. The harder they are pushed to maximise profit above all else, which is what large corporation owners and shareholders always want, the faster they get depleted and the more chemical assistance they require to remain productive. We’re trying to recover a lot of land that got damaged in that way from the 60’s onwards and the leaders in that drive to restore our soils are the smaller farmers who actually spend time out on the land every single day, rain or shine. The people who aren’t doing anything worthwhile are the big corporates, because they don’t give a hoot about it. If you want your food sullied by traces of pesticides, fungicides and herbicides. Your meat tainted by antibiotics, steroids, organophosphates and antithelmics, then doing away with the small farmers is exactly the right way to achieve it. Yes, we live in a three bedroom stone cottage that my ancestors built and apparently it’s now worth more than I could ever have dreamed of if it were to be sold. Yes, our land that my ancestors cleared from heathlands, moving thousands of tons of stone from the cultivated fields to make them workable with manual tools and building miles of stone banks around them to contain their livestock, are now worth more than I could ever afford to pay. But I have the duty to protect, preserve and nurture them. I have the duty to ensure that they remain productive and to husband the nature that also has to have a place, in return enriching our soils and pollinating our plants. I have the duty to protect and honour the results of the hard work that made this place and to add my own labour to the efforts of those who handed it down from father to son or daughter, to reach me and to soon be handed on in turn to my son for him to add his own work to theirs. None of my family have ever been wealthy, we’ve made our way and tried to leave things just a little better for the next generation. Not every generation has succeeded in reaching that goal but by and large we’ve fed ourselves and fed a lot of other families through the centuries. The fact that the place we do it has acquired significant value on the open market is not something that we could have expected generations ago. It was never the goal then and it has never been the goal to this day because it was and is not for sale, it’s not morally ours to sell, so it’s commercial “value” is not relevant for us. We’re it’s guardians, no generation is ever truly it’s owner because of the debt that every generation owes to the ones that went before us, and the duty that we have to those yet unborn. Please don’t lump us in with the Clarksons, or much worse still, the Dysons. We’re a fundamentally different breed and a fundamentally different culture. We’re not wealthy and what we do isn’t a tax dodge, it’s the way of life that puts good healthy food on people’s plates and returns us next to nothing except the human value of the small communities in which we live.
@wcads623
@wcads623 14 күн бұрын
It is - poor them. welcome to the real world.
@SeattlePioneer
@SeattlePioneer 8 күн бұрын
Well of COURSE! Those who own substantial business or farming assets should be exempt from paying such taxes. Working people who own nothing but what their hands can produce can always make up what the government wants to be paid.
@thomasrowe67
@thomasrowe67 18 күн бұрын
Well done Harry. Totally agree. Lets hope the general public can get behind the british farmer.
@tupo3855
@tupo3855 18 күн бұрын
Farmers should get behind the general public and pay their share.
@integralevideo
@integralevideo 18 күн бұрын
@@tupo3855 The alternative was to tax the PAYE people more, I'm afraid they already rung dry.
@robm.4512
@robm.4512 17 күн бұрын
@@integralevideo The alternative was to tax the uber wealthy, but perish the thought…eh? Fixed that for you, no charge.
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
@@robm.4512 They are taxing the uber wealthy, this law is to tax super rich people who have been buying up farms and land to avoid paying tax... This has resulted in land prices skyrocketing and pushing farmers out of their industry. Well now this tax loophole is closed there is less incentive for them to buy the land and the prices will drop letting farmers survive. The very rich man, harry, making this video was one of the rich people who bought farm land to dodge tax. He owns a car magazine and has another channel for his expensive cars. Won't know that by watching just this video though.
@nevhath
@nevhath 18 күн бұрын
Very well said Harry. Wish the regular British public could all hear this video. Keep up the good work.
@integralevideo
@integralevideo 18 күн бұрын
If the British public heard this they would laugh when the chat goes onto £1 million inheritances etc.
@alexandermajor6467
@alexandermajor6467 17 күн бұрын
with the average house in england being worth 305k and inheritance tax starting at 325k and most folk paying 40% rather than 20% they're not going to have a lot of sympathy for the farmers sitting on massive assets
@joemartino6976
@joemartino6976 Күн бұрын
Here in America, a 500 acre farm, at $14K per acre, is worth about $7 million. A John Deere combine, without the various attachments, can cost $500K new. Not to mention a whole lot of other expensive things. Starting a profitable family farm from scratch is impossible. A corporate farm with extensive funding, yes. I agree with Harry, the million pound limit is ridiculous.
@navaraboy3000
@navaraboy3000 18 күн бұрын
There needs to be more focus on farmers vs landowners
@londo776
@londo776 18 күн бұрын
why?
@navaraboy3000
@navaraboy3000 17 күн бұрын
@@londo776 IHT is of no relevance to tenant farmers, que the comments if the landowner sells the tenant will los their farm etc blah blah most are under Acts anyway. A land owner buys land as an investment a farmer farms it.
@angry7518
@angry7518 18 күн бұрын
Very succinctly put Harry. Loved how you didn’t talk specifically about your situation as well that was a nice touch. It’s a bad situation that hopefully as the dust settles gets tweaked. It was a pleasure to meet you yesterday evening. Thanks for chatting to me about cars and roads.
@Stu_2112
@Stu_2112 18 күн бұрын
To be clear, I don't disagree with his concerns but, to be honest, it would be tricky for a guy with a multi-million pound car collection to talk about 'scratching around to make a living'
@garethgrundy8087
@garethgrundy8087 18 күн бұрын
@@Stu_2112 He has worked and taken financial risks for nearly 40 years to have what he now owns and enjoys with the rest of us. Yes he makes money from KZbin but so do the BBC Sky etc. Get a grip!!
@Beyonder8335
@Beyonder8335 18 күн бұрын
@@Stu_2112 it's much different, because the car collection is purely recreational. Machinery is a necessity to do the job with farming.
@Me1234utube
@Me1234utube 18 күн бұрын
I blame your neighbour Jeremy and James Dyson . If the land doesn’t earn an income the land value is too high .
@andrewkennedy3910
@andrewkennedy3910 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, if these people didn't game the system to avoid paying tax none of this would be necessary.
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
According to the Sunday Times, James Dyson paid an estimated £156m in taxes last year in the UK. Supermarkets have already announced Labour's budget is going to push up the price of food and drink. I'm sure that will impact you a lot more than Dyson.
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
@@bw1376 and? that's less than he should pay, we all pay tax he proportionally pays less. Also this topic is not every day tax, it is to avoid inheritance tax, aka when he kicks the bucket his multi million empire pays £0 to be passed on while the rest of the UK pays 40%. And in order to abuse this tax loophole hes bought up farm land, pricing actual farmers out of the market with land value rising...
@bw1376
@bw1376 8 күн бұрын
@@evulclown Think we've got more chance getting rid of the rotten tax-obsessed Labour Party before Clarkson or Dyson kickinf the bucket. When will politicians start paying tax on their the donations and gifts they receive? Starmer should have paid £48,000.
@marcusingram522
@marcusingram522 18 күн бұрын
What doesn’t help is celebrity’s like JC writing articles in the past saying he’s bought a farm as his dependents wouldn’t need to pay inheritance tax on that money tied up in a form.
@nikkihamilton4374
@nikkihamilton4374 7 күн бұрын
Hang in there…Reform is coming and will reverse this nonsense! Just don’t die in the meanwhile! 🙏
@theendofabell7786
@theendofabell7786 18 күн бұрын
People are taxed to death in this country, just the way it is unfortunately. Also, on a slightly less relevant side note, King Charles paid zero inheritance tax, but everyone else still has to pay it, seems kind of unfair, doesn't it?
@patshiels5429
@patshiels5429 18 күн бұрын
And don’t forget The Westminster and his mates pay no tax
@ruststar
@ruststar 18 күн бұрын
That’s the difference between royalty and subjects
@peterww3241
@peterww3241 18 күн бұрын
​@@ruststar Before the Normans, British monarchs were no more and no less than the first among equals. It's now time for the royal privileges, which are hangover from Norman/feudal times, to be abolished. Royalty should pay tax like everybody else. The Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster should be transferred back into The Crown Estate.
@dodgerboe
@dodgerboe 18 күн бұрын
It's Called Debt Slavery to The Uk Corporation City of London....... Anyone who has a Birth Certificate is required as traded chattle to Make 'The System Money' !
@gc12gladiator
@gc12gladiator 18 күн бұрын
I also heard that Indians residing in the U.K. are exempted…go figure!
@jjjnout6778
@jjjnout6778 17 күн бұрын
And all this happened just after a visit from Bill Biggest Landowner in the US Gates.....imagine my surprise
@johngittins6244
@johngittins6244 10 күн бұрын
Waiting in the wings to snap up Uk land next, owned offshore with no inheritance tax issue.
@jwb5032
@jwb5032 9 күн бұрын
💯
@garygrieves6752
@garygrieves6752 9 күн бұрын
US influence in the UK is getting egregious in the extreme now. They are the worst societal mentor you could pick outside of the obvious ones. Instead of high profile Americans “advising” we should be looking to places like Scandinavia, the Netherlands. They get far more things right (not everything obviously) than our “cousin” across the pond.
@applemac100100
@applemac100100 9 күн бұрын
BG is evil personified. He also thinks he’s the fount of knowledge on medical issues as well what a prat.
@marinedrive5484
@marinedrive5484 18 күн бұрын
A 1 million cap on tax relief on family farms is not just poorly thought out; it's an attack on them. Governments want big corporate farms so that they can more directly control food production-for good or for bad?
@alastairward2774
@alastairward2774 17 күн бұрын
What's the difference between the two types of farming? Why should someone in a city worry about a change from one to another?
@simonhughes7382
@simonhughes7382 18 күн бұрын
A great speech and so important to get the word out there. We need to stop complaining in this country about the awful way it's being run and do something about it. Asap.
@BasilBeaton
@BasilBeaton 11 күн бұрын
There should be no inheritance tax levied on farms that pass on to inheritors committed to continuing farming for 7 years. If they stop farming before those seven years for whatever reason, then the full 40% should be payable from the proceeds of sale. This should also apply to inheritors who continue to live in a family home. If they sell within 7 years, then the inheritance tax is payable.
@grahamcoffer1720
@grahamcoffer1720 18 күн бұрын
Brilliantly explained!
@flawford1912
@flawford1912 12 күн бұрын
Hi Harry. If, as they state, Labour’s primary reason for scrapping the 100% IHT for farmers is to capture those non-farmers who have invested heavily in land as a way of avoiding IHT - giving them a generational tax shelter for their wealth - then why do they not amend the rules and grant 100% relief to those farmers who are farmers; by using the same eligibility criteria as would be used for a tenant farmer who wants to pass on his generational tenancy to the next generation? This would mean that only those farmers whose principal source of income (at least 50%) was earnt from farming the land out of at least 5 of the last 7 years prior to their death. As many land investors, such as James Dyson, Jeremy Clarkson, pension funds and so on, would not qualify under this criteria, they would not get IHT relief and so achieve Labour’s stated aims. Whereas the family generational farmer whose principal source of income is the farm, would. Would you be willing, Harry with the influence and platform that you have, to raise this key point with Labour and so take the focus off the £1m limit and onto what the stated purpose of the change is for? How could they argue with using the succession clause which is already written in law for tenant farmers who pass on their tenanted farms, when it would effectively sift out the ‘wheat’ from the ‘chaff’ by bringing to light who was a farmer who depended on their income from the land (the ‘wheat’) and who was not (the ‘chaff’)? With best wishes
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu 8 күн бұрын
Wouldn't matter anyway, because they'll engage in pseudo farming activities so they barely qualify as being active farmers under the law.
@Chloe-jj7vy
@Chloe-jj7vy 8 күн бұрын
I had similar thoughts, so many different ways they could go around it really if that was their goal.
@rossross8224
@rossross8224 17 күн бұрын
this is terrible , we need to support the farmers of the uk . this government needs to go .
@stevemawer848
@stevemawer848 16 күн бұрын
I didn't vote for them. Seems the majority in the country wants this. Or were too stupid to realise the consequences.
@RobinHarding-ep1ud
@RobinHarding-ep1ud 12 күн бұрын
Well done for getting involved Harry .
@marksomers2358
@marksomers2358 18 күн бұрын
You think that isn't the plan from the government for the land to end up in the wrong hands
@jonathanbeale3978
@jonathanbeale3978 18 күн бұрын
Harry, very well explained. As you mentioned it is hobby farmers who use the farm as a tax wrapper to protect their wealth. They do just enough to be seen as a farmer
@Billywoo12
@Billywoo12 17 күн бұрын
So farmers and land owners who educate their children at private schools have been really shafted.
@davidpearson243
@davidpearson243 17 күн бұрын
@@Billywoo12 probably 90% of both groups them vote Tory so no political damage to Labour
@tomgreene1843
@tomgreene1843 14 күн бұрын
How many ?
@philipjamesparsons
@philipjamesparsons 16 күн бұрын
Coming from a farming family, I would say that farmers are often their own worst enemies. Many want to live forever and keep control of the farm well beyond the age that they are competent to run the show. Relatives are played off against each other and expected to work for peanuts on the possibility that they might inherit the farm when they too, become old. My family cannot even find family members who want to play this game and farm the land; they have a “share” farmer doing that. The Labour, tax grab will ultimately be ineffective as it will be planned around. That will of course leave all that daft public spending unfunded.
@hectorsnet
@hectorsnet 16 күн бұрын
They could have done this so much fairer.. if you continue farming the land then there should be no tax to pass it down through the family. If you decide to give up farming then you pay the tax. That's how it should have been done
@user-eq7cc1yt6z
@user-eq7cc1yt6z 18 күн бұрын
The big companies taking out competition
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
More like government taking out rich peoples tax loophole via buying farm land for 0 inheritance tax which has also driven the land prices up and resulted in less actual farmers... This change does not punish farmers, it punishes rich people who are greedy.
@bencollyer2296
@bencollyer2296 17 күн бұрын
We need to save our countryside
@00kennedyp
@00kennedyp 18 күн бұрын
I think they should relook at it and make sure that the relief of Inheritance Tax for farming is genuine rather than rich people purchasing farms not really producing any quantity of food or adding to the UK food security and getting the 100% relief. I would say there should be a quota on the Inheritance Tax based on a tier of food production. Maybe you might need to zone that based on regions of the UK so the productivity of land is accounted for. Either way there is a middle ground here that should be found.
@growlinggrowler-c2v
@growlinggrowler-c2v 8 күн бұрын
Labour thinks that farmers are all as wealthy as they were back in the 20 century. Back when there wasn't so many regulations, when weather was stable and harvests were plentiful. Different story these days when bad weather can mean losses rather than huge profits.
@tom4412
@tom4412 7 күн бұрын
And there wasn’t any imported grain and wool was worth a fortune
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 14 күн бұрын
"I think the Labour Government are deeply mistaken, have been very badly advised" HARRY that is an INCREDIBLY well MANNERED thing to say. Personally as a blue collar TOWNIE my belief is currently BEGGERED at the actions of the current crop of "people" in Westminster. Thank you for this video.
@donjohnson4368
@donjohnson4368 18 күн бұрын
Harry - never mind the farmers ( full sympathy to them), what about people like me who’ve worked so damn hard for 50 years, never claimed a penny dole even there were times when we were entitled, now I’ve built up assets through graft and now I’m stressing to try and protect it for my children so that they don’t have the hardships I endured. Why are we hit with 40%. I’d gladly pay 20% ….
@jbensonuk
@jbensonuk 14 күн бұрын
Finding the 20% whilst keeping the farm finances healthy will be the trouble.
@Pianoguy32
@Pianoguy32 18 күн бұрын
1million pounds is 100 acres of good farmland. Going to affect all farmers apart from those small time crofters in Scotland. Just goes to show that the current government is totally clueless across the board.
@desmondroberts6034
@desmondroberts6034 18 күн бұрын
Your valuation may have been reasonable before the Budget but, surely it needs adjusting in the light of the IHT changes.
@SailingAquamarine
@SailingAquamarine 17 күн бұрын
100 acres is a non profitable small holding, often owned by a dreamer… coincidentally a labour voter. Farmers are traditionally Tory voters. Labour wants to break farms up.
@louisholden5127
@louisholden5127 17 күн бұрын
Except that you get £1 million per spouse, PLUS the original inheritance allowance of £350k per person. 90% of farms are worth less than £2.7 million.
@Clarky006
@Clarky006 9 күн бұрын
Harry kind of said it but didn’t… a lot of land is going to come onto the market. These policies are all about forcing family businesses out and allowing corporate institutions in, very likely re-purposed for building. It’s economic engineering at its worst, forced by the hand of government and not the free market.
@mrp843
@mrp843 7 күн бұрын
It’s not a mistake it’s all deliberate. The countryside will be wind farms solar panels saplings and rubbish housing. Sustainable development agenda 2030
@turnbull321
@turnbull321 17 күн бұрын
It makes me so sad that the government just don't understand what food security is and don't appreciate the people dedicating their lives for it
@alancobbin
@alancobbin 18 күн бұрын
Feed the Country your entire life and get completely screwed for doing it,how disgraceful,This Government needs ousting!
@AdrianSams
@AdrianSams 18 күн бұрын
Oh give over, they do it for the money. Plenty fot hem are more than willing to sell to developers for housing or solar farms. I've run a small business for over 30yrs, I'd like to hand it down to my children so explain why I should pay Inheritance tax and yet farmers should be 100% exempt?.Farmers receive taxpayers money via subsidies and have done for decades. In the 1980's they were paid to grub out hedgerows to increase yields, in the 90's they were paid to plant hedge rows. Many of them are more than happy to sell out for £millions to developers or solar farms. They are hypocrites.
@inh415
@inh415 18 күн бұрын
​@AdrianSams and if they sell they pay a boat load of CGT. Now just because they have some land next to exsiting housing developments that could potentially be built on, they have to pay IHT on this inflated land value
@inh415
@inh415 18 күн бұрын
Farms make between 0.5 and 1% return, so a 3mill farm might make 30K per year.....
@AdrianSams
@AdrianSams 18 күн бұрын
@@inh415 If I have a "boat load" of silver/gold bullion That I've invested in over my lifetime and sell I also pay CGT. Stop whinging, it's pathetic. If I hand my business down to my kids they pay IH tax. Farmers are NOT forced to farm, they choose to do it, it's a business so if they no longer enjoy the job then sell up. In 1989 New Zealand abolished farming subsidies and people like you said it would ring the death knell of family farms in New Zealand and yet today in NZ 95% of the farms are still run by the same families that ran them in 1989. My point is Framers are serial whingers, quite happy to receive tax money from people who earn far less than they do through subsidies.Yet you are saying it's not fair that farmers pay Inheritence tax on land they are inherit/given whilst the rest of us have to suck it up and pay. Fcuk off with the hard luck/not fair nonsense.
@AdrianSams
@AdrianSams 18 күн бұрын
@@inh415 The vat majority of Farmers/businesses in general choose to show they only make a small profit. I've been in business since 1986 so don't pull the wool over my eyes mate. I was talking to a Business owner today who I do work for. He told me the Budget will cost him an extra £20,000 pa in Ntaional Insurance increases alone. He runs a small business and yet he is pragmatic and just carries on. Doesn't whinge and moan at every increase in costs like Farmers do. The NFU did a survey just before the election where 60% of those polled intended to vote Labour. They reaped what they sowed,literally. They should have voted Reform. Suck it up Buttercups.
@rogermason6808
@rogermason6808 18 күн бұрын
a pointless nonsensible land grab - keep up the fight Harry
@duncanross5809
@duncanross5809 18 күн бұрын
This is a brilliant explanation and well edited video. Thanks you for taking your time to produce such good a video about a horrible situation. I am in a similar situation to the one described. I am managing my family's farm which is valued at slightly over £8m with an annual turnover of about £200k but profits range from £60k to -£15k. They have agreed to gift me the farm but now cannot die in the next 7 years or we will lose the farm. Its such a struggle some years even just to break even and after the loss of bps I have had to increase countryside stewardship and sfi options to guarantee a return after several years of marginal cropping. In fact I have started doing some contracting after helping a neighbour a few years back who now gets me to cut all his crops. Im sat there on the combine dojng maths realising I am probably making more profit from his crops than he is. Its a tough gig already this farming thing, this was the last thing we needed.
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 18 күн бұрын
You won't lose it , somebody will buy it for 8million
@johnsmith-ls4rc
@johnsmith-ls4rc 18 күн бұрын
@@sarahann530 Still left with £6.4 million at 20 % IHT. Not being spiteful, just pragmatic. It would be a wrench, but .............
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 18 күн бұрын
@johnsmith-ls4rc My question is who would pay 8 million for a farm if there is no money in it ?
@Dan-qd6gc
@Dan-qd6gc 17 күн бұрын
@@sarahann530 split it into 8 chunks and sell it off. 1 million inheritance tax free for 8 people.
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 17 күн бұрын
@@Dan-qd6gc Sweet deal !
@colinhardy7203
@colinhardy7203 18 күн бұрын
I think the majority of people in this country would be very sympathetic should farmers use their tractors to bring the country to a standstill until the government reversed this absurd policy.
@garthwalker1025
@garthwalker1025 18 күн бұрын
Im a (very) long-term Harry addict (Garage and Farm) way back here in South Africa. Quaffing a nice Cape red as I watch this latest video. Power to you Harry and all UK farmers!
@pennygilg8859
@pennygilg8859 12 күн бұрын
A few questions if i may? What's the difference in tax situation if the land is owned by an individual, or a business? Secondly, the gov website I looked at didn't mention machinery and livestock; are you sure that would be taxed? Finally, slightly different question. Of the people in the UK who call them selves farmers; how many own / will inherit a farm? And how many work on a farm as an employee or contractor?
@alastairwinner
@alastairwinner 18 күн бұрын
This tax change is abhorrent. Paying tax if you sell the land is one thing, but paying tax when handing an operating farm down a generation makes no sense at all. The government should be doing everything they can to move the UK toward food security. This is the total opposite.
@evulclown
@evulclown 8 күн бұрын
Everyone in the UK pays inheritance tax and have for decades. Ours is 40%, welcome to 2024 you now pay 20%. Lots of countries have such a tax.
@alastairwinner
@alastairwinner 8 күн бұрын
@@evulclown clearly you don't value the food you eat, because in a generation our family run farms will be gone.
@Frank.Serpico
@Frank.Serpico 18 күн бұрын
I think you're mistaken, Reeves wasn't badly advised, they know EXACTLY what they're doing and the scumbags don't care.
@peterkiss6952
@peterkiss6952 17 күн бұрын
💯
@SmartyKD
@SmartyKD 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely. It's just part of the ongoing land and asset grab, and certainly getting control of our food supply. It's agenda 2030.
@stevestone4346
@stevestone4346 17 күн бұрын
100%. Check out who their paymasters are!
@charlesredpath
@charlesredpath 17 күн бұрын
Yeah.. her husband is the CEO of Defra. It’s absolutely vile what’s going on.
@bw1376
@bw1376 16 күн бұрын
This policy has more to do with the fact that Bill Gates visited Starmer in Downing Street last month. Gates think he knows lots about farming as he is now the largest owner of farmland in the US. Labour's policy will mean we will just end up with unsustainable megafarms owned by degenerate billionaires.
@jonh9561
@jonh9561 16 күн бұрын
UK expat here in Australia and I'm just shaking my head in disbelief. Most of the budget seems to be based on class warfare and to pay for decades of economic mismanagement by both Labour and Conservative governments. If this policy is allowed to go through, then farms will have to be sold to pay inheritance tax bills and the only buyers that have adequate finances to buy them are mainly large corporations and the families of these farmers will either have to become employees of the new corporate owners of these farms or they will have to leave the land altogether. This policy will also impact local communities and the countryside forever as most of the new owners will not be interested in maintaining ancient ways of life, when their focus is money and their shareholders. And what will the government do with the extra revenue??? Farmers must unite and fight this bad policy.
@massoud999
@massoud999 18 күн бұрын
People who think food grows in plastic bags at supermarkets make decisions about farming
@michaeljhonfarrar
@michaeljhonfarrar 18 күн бұрын
What I have found disgusting about this whole episode is the sheer quantity of comments against farmers on news articles about this, the disconnect is becoming a chasm
@DavidAmbrose-x9q
@DavidAmbrose-x9q 18 күн бұрын
Harry, couldn’t agree more. Love both your channels. But Reeves didn’t stop at the savaging of farmers. IHT now on inherited private pensions, at 40%. That will cost my kids dearly. Public sector? Nada.
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