BIG CHEESE APOLOGIZES. STRANGE, BUT TRUE!

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Gavin Webber

Gavin Webber

3 жыл бұрын

An update from my previous Cease & Desist video, last night I received an apology letter from the Director-General of the Grana Padano Consorzio! You can read the letter here; drive.google.com/file/d/1IseO...
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@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for everyone's support and letters to the Consorzia. I think it really helped them reach out to me without their legal team. I really appreciate it!
@II-._.-II-
@II-._.-II- 3 жыл бұрын
It was a decent apology and they made a generous offer. I loved the bit of irony where they hinted you should of contacted them before making the video to get things cleared up, meanwhile they just send you a C&D through a lawyer without talking to you first.
@TheFraggler
@TheFraggler 3 жыл бұрын
You made it to the front page of reddit yesterday. A lot of people have written a complaint to the company on your behalf also. I am glad that this is, somewhat resolved.
@cobeer1768
@cobeer1768 3 жыл бұрын
Id have guessed my email was just going to be deleted. Awesome result!
@brotein3577
@brotein3577 3 жыл бұрын
Damage control trying to avoid consumer boycott, power to the people!
@georgezaharoff
@georgezaharoff 3 жыл бұрын
Big respect to them for doing this. How AWESOME is it to be invited to Italy?!? Haha!
@adz929
@adz929 3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing the KZbin community loathes more than the big guys going after the little guys with the lawyers
@user-jz2bm4wz1g
@user-jz2bm4wz1g 3 жыл бұрын
Big cheese lmao
@foxvulpes8245
@foxvulpes8245 3 жыл бұрын
Big parma... san
@chinozerus667
@chinozerus667 3 жыл бұрын
They have to protect the name though, there is a lot of culture and peoples' livelihoods tied to it. Let's hope people learn to communicate again. Most problems wouldn't exist if people managed to do so. And yay to cheese. Cheeeeeeeese
@jpta1922
@jpta1922 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic.
@dimfre4kske67
@dimfre4kske67 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the consortium and grana padano probably got flamed to hell and back by their customers.
@Daetreck
@Daetreck 3 жыл бұрын
Big cheese cannot beat the cheese man himself
@L5GUK
@L5GUK 3 жыл бұрын
He has become the Big Cheese
@ccgb92
@ccgb92 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Jarejander69
@Jarejander69 3 жыл бұрын
Cheese stick it to the man!
@kr0me
@kr0me 3 жыл бұрын
Gavin: "Well I'd gratefully accept an all expenses paid trip to Italy" Consortium: "No, no, no... we didn't say it was an all expenses paid trip..." Gavin: "And I didn't say this was Grana Padano..." Consortium: "Fair dinkum"
@bryanandrews3986
@bryanandrews3986 3 жыл бұрын
Truly, blessed are the cheesemakers.
@nickcarroll8565
@nickcarroll8565 3 жыл бұрын
Does Big Cheese get to be blessed too 😂
@gropius6070
@gropius6070 3 жыл бұрын
for they shall inherit the curd
@Buddha_Buddha
@Buddha_Buddha 3 жыл бұрын
By all the Sacrilicious Cheeses of Nazareth and the three wise Cheese makers you did it.
@abemudokon9497
@abemudokon9497 3 жыл бұрын
They've had an ell of a time
@RalphH007
@RalphH007 3 жыл бұрын
What have the roman cheesemakers ever done for us?
@bullseye4170
@bullseye4170 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this is the saga I’ve needed in my life
@poppopp9893
@poppopp9893 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao...
@nonameschmuck9246
@nonameschmuck9246 3 жыл бұрын
I am Married too a filipina 18 years younger. Try my saga!!
@cazman182
@cazman182 3 жыл бұрын
"All expenses paid trip" hahaaaa you sly dawgg
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
See what I did there? 😉
@Tehpox
@Tehpox 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing 🤣
@johncitizen3227
@johncitizen3227 3 жыл бұрын
😂👊🏻
@ufo2go
@ufo2go 3 жыл бұрын
@@GavinWebber🧀 È ora di rispolverare l'italiano.🧀
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
@@ufo2go sì
@highlander723
@highlander723 3 жыл бұрын
Consortium threatens legal action against the cheese man... curdnerd army: So...you have chosen death.
@BillyBobLife
@BillyBobLife 3 жыл бұрын
What a rush the cheese man must feel when reading such comments :)
@TA-qe5ln
@TA-qe5ln 3 жыл бұрын
Curdnerd Army: Cheese or death? Ope, we're all outta cheese. Them: So my choice is 'OR DEATH'? CN A: Yes.
@pipperoooo
@pipperoooo 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Power in numbers. Leave Gavin alone big boys. It will not go well for you. To be honest I've never heard of their cheese before Gavin did the video on it. Now I definitely won't buy it. Haha
@RyanEspadilla
@RyanEspadilla 3 жыл бұрын
this is sooo epic!!! hahahaha!
@Baronstone
@Baronstone 3 жыл бұрын
Pfft, they still got what they wanted and the nerd army will still buy their cheese
@UselessDuckCompany
@UselessDuckCompany 3 жыл бұрын
Great result glad it's resolved! Seeing cheese drama get resolved is always fon to due.
@ncooty
@ncooty 3 жыл бұрын
Cheez whiz, another pun. :)
@albertb8530
@albertb8530 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt you be building a cheese garter robot ?
@UselessDuckCompany
@UselessDuckCompany 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertb8530 actually that's a good idea...
@sendmeplantpics
@sendmeplantpics 3 жыл бұрын
o my god the puns
@zzzzzzz981
@zzzzzzz981 3 жыл бұрын
@@slavapashchenko4567 They are only acting nice because they got caught .
@peterl9097
@peterl9097 3 жыл бұрын
Waaaaa!! They apologized!!! That’s super rare to happen!! Glad it worked out for you.
@TheJakeman1103
@TheJakeman1103 3 жыл бұрын
Not only apologizing, but offering to let you see the process for creation of the cheese with other cheese masters, that's amazing to me for a company to offer and apologize with.
@McDowallManor
@McDowallManor 3 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@ellenschagerstrom3063
@ellenschagerstrom3063 3 жыл бұрын
A proper and honest way to apologize.
@longlivegarybusey6409
@longlivegarybusey6409 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Pfft, a group receives a ton of backlash after going after the wrong person for the wrong reasons and does minor damage control while still insisting he did something illegal. That isn't an apology. This is 2020.....weak apologies like this shouldn't fool you anymore.
@killaken2000
@killaken2000 3 жыл бұрын
likely with a side of NDA to go with it. including never saying anything about grano padano ever again and opening him up to legal action if he talks about how it's made since he was at the factory and could be viewed as having knowledge of _proprietary information_
@stephenborntrager6542
@stephenborntrager6542 3 жыл бұрын
Let's just hope the trip is voluntary. It's not like Italy has ever had any problem with gangs after all...
@smithpoq
@smithpoq 3 жыл бұрын
"There will be a 'new' grainy italian hard cheese video..." This is the definition of a MadLad!
@Phyde4ux
@Phyde4ux 3 жыл бұрын
He should name it Prana Gadano™.
@N1korasu
@N1korasu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Phyde4ux and to be called that it can only be made in this one mans kitchen
@chriswrinn6829
@chriswrinn6829 3 жыл бұрын
@@N1korasu That would be hilarious
@joshd2013
@joshd2013 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha that's the best damage control letter I've ever heard 🤣
@wapatterson91
@wapatterson91 3 жыл бұрын
Who would win: a literal consortium or some bloke with buckets of milk?
@Charliechorizo
@Charliechorizo 3 жыл бұрын
Bloke with buckets of milk - if he's Australian.
@ShockingPikachu
@ShockingPikachu 3 жыл бұрын
An Aussie bloke with buckets of milk is nothing to mess with lol
@verdatum
@verdatum 3 жыл бұрын
Very classy on all parties. Lawyers are gonna lawyer. It's nice when we can stay civilized.
@lindsaymerritt975
@lindsaymerritt975 3 жыл бұрын
You mean that my downloaded Grana Padano video of yours isn’t worth anything now? I was gonna be rich! 😁
@PurpleHaze2k9
@PurpleHaze2k9 3 жыл бұрын
You and the rest of us :)
@PurpleHaze2k9
@PurpleHaze2k9 3 жыл бұрын
There is no better way to ensure the dissemination of this information and incentivize counterfeiters, than to have the information threatened to be removed from the internet. People did the same with the yellow cake uranium video from cody's lab. That was removed by I think ATF/FBI. I think several thousand people downloaded that before it was taken off the net.
@RealHypocrisy
@RealHypocrisy 3 жыл бұрын
@@PurpleHaze2k9 Yeah i dont need that info, i'll stay off the watchlists lol.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 жыл бұрын
@lindsay ... I sure wish that I could get a copy of that video. I'd love to see what the fuss is about. Can you provide it to a Fellow Cheesemaker?
@lindsaymerritt975
@lindsaymerritt975 3 жыл бұрын
@@PoeLemic if Gavin doesn’t have any objections, sure.
@BillyBobLife
@BillyBobLife 3 жыл бұрын
Dont' let the big Parma win!
@Charliechorizo
@Charliechorizo 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, say no to the NWO vaccine!
@craftfairy1
@craftfairy1 3 жыл бұрын
Padano is not made in Parma. That would open a whole new can of worms.
@Pepy667
@Pepy667 3 жыл бұрын
@@craftfairy1 a can of maggots
@craftfairy1
@craftfairy1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pepy667 Having tasted maggot cheese in italy, it's not something that I would want to repeat.
@wd1501
@wd1501 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have a typo --- I was thinking Pig Parma
@zaclew52
@zaclew52 3 жыл бұрын
Gavin has more power than we thought... they didn't realize he had an army behind him...
@johneagle1855
@johneagle1855 3 жыл бұрын
Well when you redo that video, maybe call it "The Cheese That Can't Be Named." Almost sounds like "The Fight Club"
@randomdumbarse1music
@randomdumbarse1music 3 жыл бұрын
Either that or Voldemort cheese
@Finwolven
@Finwolven 3 жыл бұрын
Just call it 'The Cheese With No Name' and claim it was invented by Sergio Leone.
@johneagle1855
@johneagle1855 3 жыл бұрын
@@Finwolven OOo....Riding through the Desert with a Cheese With No Name, it felt good to be rid of the corporate fame. La laa la la la la ..(you know the rest.)
@ProxyMohawk
@ProxyMohawk 3 жыл бұрын
Mindblowingly fast apology. Under 24 hours since you made the C&D video. Smart on their part, because it looks like that video would have absolutely blown up over the next week. Glad they did the sensible thing..
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 3 жыл бұрын
Well considering he has a quarter of a million subs and then an actual lawyer youtuber covered it.... I'm not too surprised Though to be fair they essentially said "Sorry not sorry" in their letter
@gabrielemagnabosco8926
@gabrielemagnabosco8926 3 жыл бұрын
If the video remained monetized, they would've still had decent ground for their case. PDO laws are very strict and somewhat engineered to be enforceable whenever you want. You just can't use the label or the name.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielemagnabosco8926 Not at all because the only thing the consortium actually protects is the use of the name just like some types of tomatoes they grow there. If they aren't made in a specific area you aren't allowed to call yourself But the biggest flaw in their argument is, he isn't even selling a product, he is simply teaching people to make a cheese that is similar to what theirs is.
@gabrielemagnabosco8926
@gabrielemagnabosco8926 3 жыл бұрын
@@SilvaDreams The consorzio (and all other consorzi in Italy) protects the disciplinare (which is a regulated recipe and production method) AND the name of the specific product. I don't know if in the US there's something similar, but it isn't a simple name thing, it's the whole procedure that is protected by the specific law. So even quoting the name and "teaching" a procedure that isn't corresponding to the disciplinare in a video that is monetized without being part of the consorzio can be a violation of the PDO. The main aim of the consorzio is to prevent it.
@Anthonypython
@Anthonypython 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielemagnabosco8926 there isn't anything that protects recipes, just bank vaults(literally), only a brand name can be trademarked to help protect it. but nothing but the name here. as were not PDO compliant here.
@sendmeplantpics
@sendmeplantpics 3 жыл бұрын
Never in my life did I imagine myself to be so obsessed with the outcome of the battle between Big Cheese and the Curd-nerd Leader himself. Really happy there's a positive outcome and to see the community has your back.
@LetsTakeWalk
@LetsTakeWalk 3 жыл бұрын
Seems to me an overeager lawyer doing something the top brass did not like.
@markcamp1
@markcamp1 3 жыл бұрын
It's what happens when businesses have to protect themselves from real infringers. Stuff like this unfortunately gets caught up in the mix. The consortium are a bunch of small manufacturers and family artisans trying to protect their brand.
@shadowhenge7118
@shadowhenge7118 3 жыл бұрын
I think they realized that going after a small cheesemaker was probably not good for thier image.
@siccoblue2112
@siccoblue2112 3 жыл бұрын
They only didn't like it because he has clout to back it up. If he had 50 subs it would be dead and done without another word
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 3 жыл бұрын
For the letter, they must have contracted a "youtube" specialist law company who takes care of all this things. As they receive "an enormous amount" of complains, they gave the company the permit to deliver cease and desist letters to people on their behalf. And that usually backfires....
@flubalubaful
@flubalubaful 3 жыл бұрын
@@markcamp1 If they go after people labelling there cheese as the original and selling it either en mass or even in small batches then i agree with them but just mentioning there name in a video and trying to recreate it is crazy. If big business had there way we would not be allowed to cook anything at home due to trademarks and have to eat out or order takeaways to eat, they did at one time try to get a law passed that food prepared at a restaurant had a trademark and could not be copied at home but they were laughed out of court, but they will try again and again changing the wording until they can pass a law like this...sad but if people fight back they can not sue us all. not enforceable at all
@hakudoushinumbernine
@hakudoushinumbernine 3 жыл бұрын
"Grainy italian cheese that cannot be named" good thats how you do that.
@t.p.9550
@t.p.9550 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! i am happy all this story ended well! as a italian i was really sorry for the cease and desist letter tho! and indeed i commented that video too! I really would like to specify that the consortium it's NOT a big company but a group of very small, mostly familiar owned, companies that produces grana padano that organized together to help each other out and protect themselves! i believe all this story was a HUGE misunderstanding and it should have been addressed without letters and stuff! At lest all this story gave another subscriber! i wish you al the best and stay safe!
@kalemercer7053
@kalemercer7053 3 жыл бұрын
Companies may have armies of lawyers, But KZbins have Keyboard Warriors And WE ARE LEGION!
@georgina168
@georgina168 3 жыл бұрын
Gets invited to tour the cheese factory. Gav upgrades it to an all expenses paid trip. Make sure they get you business class tickets!!
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Gzus
@Gzus 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing what happens when a company ends up on the front page of Reddit, especially when it makes them look bad. Cheers!
@lightnight14
@lightnight14 3 жыл бұрын
They made the right play backing off.
@gotshpilkes
@gotshpilkes 3 жыл бұрын
I try to judge people by how they respond to the effects of their mistake vs judging them by their mistakes. The "consortium" has a right to protect their IP but went a bit overboard. The apology was the right thing to do...even if it was because they got a lot of angry mail.
@AllDayBikes
@AllDayBikes 3 жыл бұрын
2:10 That malicious compliance haha, love it
@kempokiai
@kempokiai 3 жыл бұрын
While I cannot enjoy cheese due to a combination of a faulty gallbladder and lactose intolerance, Gav's passion, cheery demeanor, and relaxing tone really make winding down at the end of the night easy. I'm so glad things have panned out for you as I was very frustrated to see such a humble and genuine person be threatened with a C&D. The offer they extended seems to be in good faith as well and I look forward to the day when we can watch your trip there and we can all breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy one another's company on a more closer and intimate way. Cheers Gav and the Curd Nerds.
@GaudiaCertaminisGaming
@GaudiaCertaminisGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you upgraded an invite to a cheese factory into an all expenses-paid trip to Italy. Top man.
@colinmacvicar2507
@colinmacvicar2507 3 жыл бұрын
If you mess with the Cheese man you’ll have to deal with the curd nerd army. I do hope you get the chance to take them up on their offer.
@glalih
@glalih 3 жыл бұрын
I downloaded the GP STYLE cheese video just in case
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 жыл бұрын
I sure wish that I could get a copy of that video. I'd love to see what the fuss is about. Can you provide it to a Fellow Cheesemaker?
@ciellindley
@ciellindley Жыл бұрын
How did I miss this!!! I am making your Cease & Disist cheese as soon as I am in my new house and making cheese again!! Your grace throughout is remarkable and is an example to all Australians under pressure.
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 3 жыл бұрын
They're so full of it! It's not illegal to mention a product on KZbin, what a load of tot. Furthermore the only thing they're sorry for is the damage to their reputation. 😒
@shawnmiller4781
@shawnmiller4781 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, somebody suddenly realized that this was going public
@Trevski13
@Trevski13 3 жыл бұрын
"Corporate greed! Corporate greed! Corporate greeeeeeed!"
@RaspK
@RaspK 3 жыл бұрын
It's more complicated than that; unfortunately, if you don't protest the use of the term, this opens up the question of why you didn't protest the legally erroneous use of the term by a prominent figure. See the problem now? Imagine if, let's say, Obama went ahead and posted a KZbin video where he would be allegedly making Nuremberg Bratwurst... They would be *forced* to act, because not acting would imply they would be OK with Obama very publicly violating the technical specification of the legal term, thereby putting its legal validity in jeopardy.
@Taurmin
@Taurmin 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaspK You are thinking of trademarks. Protected origins are a seperate thing and they are not subject to the same common use standard as trademarks. They also only extend protections to the use of a name in commerce.
@killaken2000
@killaken2000 3 жыл бұрын
I heard about this a few days ago from reddit. I didn't know what grano padano was but I'll never buy anything with that name on it as long as I live.
@billkamp3284
@billkamp3284 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations . Rationality prevails. A nice letter.
@jaroslavhorak341
@jaroslavhorak341 3 жыл бұрын
That is a good PR response, Blizzard should take notes.
@mao5170
@mao5170 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, as well as other ccp and radical left infested businesses.
@PurpleHaze2k9
@PurpleHaze2k9 3 жыл бұрын
Blizzard is too large of a company to care about it's customers, at least on an individual basis.
@VangusKhan
@VangusKhan 3 жыл бұрын
Good PR response? The whole thing was a train wreck. This is saving face.
@PurpleHaze2k9
@PurpleHaze2k9 3 жыл бұрын
@@VangusKhan Compared to some companies out there the consortium was forthright in correcting the error. even if it IS in fact just saving face, they did a great job even in just so much as timeliness. Some companies would allow their threat to stand and even follow through with something like a lawsuit.
@VangusKhan
@VangusKhan 3 жыл бұрын
@@PurpleHaze2k9 Just because they could have done much worse doesn't mean it was a "good" response. Still saving face. It is a sad state of the world where big companies can push little people around all the time.
@MightyTheWolf
@MightyTheWolf 3 жыл бұрын
I found out about this on reddit. I'm not interested in cheese, but i think its a shame they lawyer up like this. Yes, it's to protect their IP, but they can be friendly about it. This is not the first time we see something like this.. And KZbin is notorious for being a place where copyright trolls are going crazy.
@danielhenderson9719
@danielhenderson9719 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m not interested in cheese” 😳
@gabrielemagnabosco8926
@gabrielemagnabosco8926 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't a simple IP though, this isn't as simple as that. It's a legally protected product, the whole recipe and production method is protected by italian, european and to some extent international regulations.
@johnNJ4024
@johnNJ4024 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Webber, This is great news! I am so happy to hear that they apologized. But the extension of the offer to have you go to a creamery to see the complete Grana Padano cheese making process is an awesome opportunity. I certainly hope you get to go because that's something many of us, your Curd Nerds, would love to see you do. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. PS- I can't get my computer to download the video so I am very much looking forward to seeing your new grainy parmesan cheese making video. Thank you for all that you do, you are a great man!
@greywolf187
@greywolf187 3 жыл бұрын
Reddit got your back
@w.o.jackson8432
@w.o.jackson8432 3 жыл бұрын
You're not on reddit.
@greywolf187
@greywolf187 3 жыл бұрын
@@w.o.jackson8432 video was posted to r/videos. Which is how it got out there
@w.o.jackson8432
@w.o.jackson8432 3 жыл бұрын
@@greywolf187 You're not on reddit.
@icebatwage2815
@icebatwage2815 3 жыл бұрын
You're not on reddit.
@Binchaloo
@Binchaloo 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't we all not on reddit
@shawnmiller4781
@shawnmiller4781 3 жыл бұрын
I think somebody figured out this was about to blow up as badly as the “United Breaks Guitars” song a few years ago. Goodwill has a value
@planetzogg1
@planetzogg1 3 жыл бұрын
So glad they saw sense in the end, but a bummer that they put you through all that crap in the first place. As it shows, it pays to talk. Now get your butt over to Italy and find out the real recipie :)
@BetweenTheBorders
@BetweenTheBorders 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! I personally still feel you shouldn't need to take it down, but peace of mind has its own value. In his defense, the lawyers usually just kinda do their own, unsupervised thing. I'm glad it ended well for you, keep up the good work.
@armondo22
@armondo22 3 жыл бұрын
They should be happy you are passing along love of cheese making
@jamyedowell245
@jamyedowell245 3 жыл бұрын
That was a lovely ending to the saga. You have taught me about so many cheeses I've never discovered, and gotten me to try cheese I would have otherwise shied away from. Thank you for everything you do for the cheese community! Never stop making your forbidden cheeses!
@timothypirnat3754
@timothypirnat3754 3 жыл бұрын
Gavin, You really took the high ground. It speaks volumes about your character. You were very measured and calm. I would have raged and said things I would regret later. I would not have taken down the video. Your post about Grana Padano was literally an advertisement for this cheese. I had never heard of this cheese (and many other cheeses) before. I am not a cheesemaker, and I do source some of the actual cheese PDO you present as a "style". For those of us who don't make cheese, you educate us about cheeses from around the world. I know what I like in a cheese, and you convey the cheese flavor and texture that helps me decide what I'd like to try from the cheese section at my grocery. I'm going to look for Grana Padano next time I go shopping.
@mdtaylor2274
@mdtaylor2274 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stefano Berni for the apology. I was going to stop buying Grana Padano here in Portugal but now I'll gladly support Italian cheese makers.
@merrickmacneil3647
@merrickmacneil3647 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me happy. I found that upsetting. Your doing great things for cheese.
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@michaelden
@michaelden 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, grate things
@tsmithkc
@tsmithkc 3 жыл бұрын
That "sorry not sorry" letter really sets the tone. Already in my mind it is now forever labeled as Grana Padano: Cheese made by litigious jerks.
@GJLNZ1
@GJLNZ1 3 жыл бұрын
That was an outstanding letter from Italy. Big up to that team. I will make an effort to purchase their cheese if the opportunity ever arises.
@psilla69
@psilla69 3 жыл бұрын
A fully expensed trip to Italy is a great gesture on the Grana Padano end.
@Hup.
@Hup. 3 жыл бұрын
The Streisand effect pulls out a big one once again! A win for home cooks everywhere. You got a new subscriber and viewer out of this.
@Grahammon
@Grahammon 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it’s sorted, must have been a shock
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
It was.
@rocwyvern1101
@rocwyvern1101 3 жыл бұрын
@@GavinWebber I'm sorry you went through that emotional ordeal/turmoil. Their behavior was uncalled for, especially considering that this could have been resolved in a mature way if they'd have first contacted you to simply talk to you to see if it could be resolved in an amiable way. I just hope that you can now breathe easily and that you can finally relax in peace. You're a kind man and you really didn't deserve to be treated that way. Much love.
@nagelfar8715
@nagelfar8715 3 жыл бұрын
How great that it worked out Gavin! I am so happy for you. Please dont take down your video since there is no need for it any longer. Best of wishes and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@marisarobertson5914
@marisarobertson5914 3 жыл бұрын
Gavin, you're the greatest! This from a curd nerd lurker who has never commented before, but I did feel it was necessary to give you my support. Thank you for your continued excellence as an eloquent teacher.
@Magius61
@Magius61 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so conscientious and respectful. Glad to see them back pedalling a bit. If anything you’re good for all cheese makers everywhere. Your enthusiasm is infectious. You definitely didn’t deserve to be threatened with a slap suit. Your good nature has paid off eventually.
@MathildaFlow
@MathildaFlow 3 жыл бұрын
The Voldemort cheese.
@martincairns1555
@martincairns1555 3 жыл бұрын
Love it - Cheese board features Cambozola, Emmental, Camembert and Voldemort. It sounds wicked..... 🤣🤣
@youngbucksbbq7819
@youngbucksbbq7819 3 жыл бұрын
Very glad this was resolved! I love seeing your videos!
@stangerranch
@stangerranch 3 жыл бұрын
Great news. Thanks for telling your story. Just goes to show the power of a group of curd nerds.
@SnoozerIIVMMXIV
@SnoozerIIVMMXIV 3 жыл бұрын
That's good. I'm italian and i love your videos.. those products are very important for keeping the country alive and they become too much aggressive with the D.o.p. thing... you're a good man with a true passion i don't see any intention in you about making money on grana padano...good they sorry to you...keep your awesome work up
@astra1653
@astra1653 3 жыл бұрын
But heavens, don't call the new cheese, "The Voldemort Cheese: the cheese which may not be named." You'll have Rowling's lawyers on you then! LoL, although possibly you might just end up with an army of Potterheads in your DMs demanding the recipe... 😉
@LexYeen
@LexYeen 3 жыл бұрын
Given Rowling's reputation after her various incidents of transphobia, that might be a fun kind of Streisand Effect. "Transphobe lashes out at youtube cheesemaker over obvious joke" and similar headlines, y'know?
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 3 жыл бұрын
@@LexYeen Aww
@SovaySovay
@SovaySovay 3 жыл бұрын
I love cheese, but I've never made cheese in my life. The thought hadn't even occurred to me. But I came across the cease and desist video on Reddit yesterday and immediately watched the grana padano-style video, then got on google, found a cheesemaking supply store, drove there and got everything I needed. I cannot wait to make the forbidden cheese! You have a new subscriber here :)
@leejarvie1836
@leejarvie1836 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy this has a somewhat happy ending. I'm also happy that you had this issue and someone posted it to Reddit since it allowed me to discover your channel. I've always wanted to try making cheese. And even though Grana Padano is probably not a cheese I'd be particularly interested in, I was tempted to make simply as a result of your issues. At any rate, glad it has worked out for you and Glad to have found you!
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting a Apology letter or them backing down.
@kel9037
@kel9037 3 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting saga to watch. Good for you.
@justmejust4553
@justmejust4553 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your gift with us all from all around the world. You take time out of your day to teach us with such patience and easy way for us to understand. You truly are appreciated
@jamesbrowne6351
@jamesbrowne6351 3 жыл бұрын
I lowered the blinds, checked the room for listening devices, and generally made certain I was not being surveilled before watching the nefarious GP video which got you in such hot water. Afterwards I considered downloading it but withheld not wanting to get on the wrong side of the consortium. Looking forward to the replacement.
@JustCallMeMeghan
@JustCallMeMeghan 3 жыл бұрын
"All expenses paid". 😂😂😂 Doubtful.
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
I had to throw that in there 😉
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a fast turn-around. They probably realized that you can sue them back. You could sue them back if you wanted to. This is pure intimidation and a threatening demand, IMHO.
@drewa3597
@drewa3597 3 жыл бұрын
we did it boys and girls.
@pt399
@pt399 3 жыл бұрын
This is great to hear. The last video was the first of yours I have seen. I’ve always been interested in making my own cheese but never have. I became a new follower yesterday and, after watching more of your videos, I hope to make my first attempt at cheese very soon. Keep up the great content
@fredericmeunier7648
@fredericmeunier7648 3 жыл бұрын
Great Gavin! You are the best. Continue your good work!
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@wrath187
@wrath187 3 жыл бұрын
What a weird world we live in, glad everything is working out for you.
@Tocy777isback0414
@Tocy777isback0414 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad they did this, this is how I found your channel
@SeldomSanguine
@SeldomSanguine 3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad this turned out well, love your cheese content. 💗
@smontoya83
@smontoya83 3 жыл бұрын
Cheese and Resist!
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
Resistance is futile. We will have our cheese!
@rickydona919
@rickydona919 3 жыл бұрын
however the improper use of the Grana Padano Designation (legally registered name) in your videos had been noticed by the control agency we have, just to clear something up, Gavin in no way has NEVER improperly used the name of any trademarked cheese in his videos, he refers to these as "Style" cheeses and does not market nor sell his hand made cheeses as trademarked cheeses. BTW, I think Gavin is a Master Cheesemaker and does not need a designated Master Cheesemaker to teach him a few tricks of the trade, Gavin takes care of his own and is the best at it
@grifinx
@grifinx 3 жыл бұрын
I literally had never heard of this channel prior to your cease and desist and now I’m very invested in the drama.
@Wartooth91
@Wartooth91 3 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful Gavin. Very happy for you. I enjoy your videos not that i've ever made any cheese myself but it's just very interesting to see it happen.
@fearnobeer9077
@fearnobeer9077 3 жыл бұрын
" all expenses payed " lol nice touch
@brandonjones5558
@brandonjones5558 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe switch the name to Grande Poblano or Grand Piano cheese, would that violate anything? 🤔🤔🤔
@KneeJerkReactions13
@KneeJerkReactions13 3 жыл бұрын
Last crusade I went on was for MXR. This is the fastest mobilization and retraction I have ever seen. Good on you curd herd, first the lawyers, then the lactose intolerant!!!!!
@Iluviggys
@Iluviggys 3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully the big cheese of the company is sensible and reached out. I really think they should have been pleased to see a "home cheesemaking" club make something like their cheese as there is no greater accolade than imitation. And another thing, I had never heard of their cheese before YOU publicised it and I am a cheese-aholic originally from Holland! If they had persisted perhaps you could have charged a publicity fee LOL
@ScrumBeeble
@ScrumBeeble 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine the front page reddit post helped your traction HAHAHAHAHA
@caorusso4926
@caorusso4926 3 жыл бұрын
Well... Its reddit, so problably ins't the reason for the apology
@SnoozerIIVMMXIV
@SnoozerIIVMMXIV 3 жыл бұрын
@@caorusso4926 it's not
@starlinguk
@starlinguk 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't see it there.
@charlesdavis9937
@charlesdavis9937 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote the recipe down for that cheese, going to make some soon.
@rocwyvern1101
@rocwyvern1101 3 жыл бұрын
You should download the video.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 жыл бұрын
@@rocwyvern1101 Did you download it? IF so, could you share? I saw these damned videos after the date.
@charlesdavis9937
@charlesdavis9937 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t. Sorry.
@poelemic3642
@poelemic3642 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesdavis9937 Oh, I wish you would have. If I see a video like that, I go to trouble of going to some website that will turn it into a MP4. That way, I can watch it in kitchen where I don't have a network cable.
@advwharton
@advwharton 3 жыл бұрын
Great news. Trying some of your simpler recipes. You are an inspiration.
@amyoshea2576
@amyoshea2576 3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that the story has mad it’s way to Ireland! I don’t eat cheese, I don’t follow your channel (but I’m sure it’s great!!) but I read about this in an online article and had to come and see! Im delighted that they apologized and reached out in a more personal level, a bit of respect never goes amiss!
@christiroseify
@christiroseify 3 жыл бұрын
To the Consorzio I say, Thank you for handling your concerns in a mutually respectful manner. Your honorable response to Mr. Webber is appreciated. To Gavin I say, LOL, "All expenses paid"..... hehehehehe
@bitchslappedme
@bitchslappedme 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job everyone
@Adam-ox6zy
@Adam-ox6zy 3 жыл бұрын
This came up on my feed (and I have not searched out how to make cheese either), and before this, I had not heard of Grana Padano, in fact didn't even know what a grainy hard Italian cheese is, but now I have learned something new and I will be looking out for GP cheese in shops when I am there next. Thanks
@davidprovard5816
@davidprovard5816 3 жыл бұрын
I love you and your content so much. I'm very happy that they sent an apology letter. Im also glad that you guys are handling this without big fights or problems with copyrights and laws.
@dozer30
@dozer30 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it was a “cheese consortium” that came after you. That alone sounds like something out of badly made 007 knock-off series from the 60’s. I just picture a guy dressed up in a yellow suit with screen printed holes all over it mimicking Swiss cheese sitting on a high-backed swivel chair watching intensely to your videos on a 80 inch drop down monitor and at some point, he summons henchmen to enter the room. As he presses a button to retract the monitor, he turns the chair around and says to the henchmen in a Wilson Fisk(Kingpin) like voice: “Gentlemen, we seem to have a problem.” “A Mr. Gavin Webber has made a grave mistake in the production of his cheese.” “Let’s send him a little warning as to the way we do things here in the I.C.C.”(Italian Cheese Consortium). “I want this taken care of today, gentlemen!” The henchmen rush out the room as he slowly turns back toward window overlooking the city, he lets out a little laugh as he says to himself: “The ball in now in YOUR court Mr.Webber.” Will you play ball or will you end up getting benched for the entire season?” “Bwwaaa haaa haaaa haaaa!”
@ChozoSR388
@ChozoSR388 3 жыл бұрын
The...Parmafia, if you will.
@dozer30
@dozer30 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChozoSR388 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 👍🏾
@michael7423
@michael7423 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like someone is trying to remove foot from mouth or are afraid you may have a real lawyer willing to file a counter suit for there unfounded claims. You clearly stated it was not the protected name and recipe at the beginning. Whoever started this bull crap has awakened a sleeping giant as in your world wide fans and may have damaged the unmentioned name & reputation of the cheese referred to in the c&d letter! Stay awesome 😎 Gavin we love you! Everyone please stay safe 😷
@GavinWebber
@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 💛
@ShinSakuraNoMai
@ShinSakuraNoMai 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly though, it isn't just consortium but the whole process under the emailing person. Eu and certain agencies can get bs-y. But it is good they apologized and offered.
@supermansdaddy7019
@supermansdaddy7019 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's likely the lawyers jumped the gun. They often seek this kinda stuff out by themselves, without the company's prodding.
@ShinSakuraNoMai
@ShinSakuraNoMai 3 жыл бұрын
@@supermansdaddy7019 sadly, lawyers don't care about PR when they should.
@dexterne
@dexterne 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the behind the scenes video of your trip to Italy!
@LitchKB
@LitchKB 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your use of camera angles for your dry humour.
@felinixz
@felinixz 3 жыл бұрын
Based and Padano styled
@TheColombianSpartan
@TheColombianSpartan 3 жыл бұрын
Had me chuckle ngl
@playea123
@playea123 3 жыл бұрын
We are all very glad they apologized to you and are offering you an all-expense paid trip to their farm in Italy where I hope you will take amazing footage for a video. Best of luck Mr. Webber! P.S. Will you do this with all other PDO cheeses?
@Yeraus
@Yeraus 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it turned out this way! Greetings from Austria.
@tylerandrews1489
@tylerandrews1489 3 жыл бұрын
Gavin, all of us appreciate the work you’re doing. Thank you for your work.
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