Big Fun In The Big Town - Dutch TV Hip Hop Doc (1986)

Big Fun In The Big Town - Dutch TV Hip Hop Documentary (1986)
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Director: Bram van Splunteren
Presenter: Marcel Vanthilt
Interview format documentary about the Bronx's rap culture.
Some of the local celebs included:
Grandmaster Flash, Doug E Fresh, Roxanne Shante & Biz Markie, Russell Simmons, Run DMC, LL Cool J & E Love, Suliaman El Hadi of the Last Poets, Schoolly D & DJ Code Money.

[@andrehb]

interesting that on the other side of the world in Holland, they were creating a respectful documentary about the origins of hip-hop for Dutch tv, the type of doc you'd never see on US tv back in the 80s

[@brmbkl]

Marcel Vanthilt was a pioneer.

[@crapistheshit3840]

Not in Holland Belgium!!

[@christophersmith3005]

That's because much of African American culture is not respected in the United States. It's often exploited, but not respected.

[@TheUnholyPosole]

@@christophersmith3005 ...did you learn that in "college"?

[@andrehb]

@@christophersmith3005 it's respected when it becomes mainstream -- US broadcast television is based on the advertising business model, so it'll always be lowest-common-denominator programming to capture the largest possible audience. Big audience = big advertising dollars. A lot of tv programming in Europe comes from public stations that aren't beholden to advertisers, so they can cover more niche topics.

[@MCBrainpower]

One of the dopest eras ever, with many of the greats, properly documented - I been watching this doc since 1986 - RIP Biz Markie

[@vectra1393]

True that bro....back in the day when even you and i had not heard of "de wallen van Wim Kok".

[@camiloprijs8411]

Ik kom hem nu randomly tegen, dope!

[@jasonparker8277]

I am so thankful to have grown up in this era. Dougie Fresh gave the entire blueprint

[@michaelnoll8100]

This documentary IN 1986 actually brought me to hip hop. Forever grateful.

[@TrueKing]

That’s so dope!!! Great introduction.

[@eclecticjon1019]

Love that he turns up to LL cool J's place and he's still living with his gran. This documentary is gold.

[@lu.smoove]

J. Cole brought me here from his Sway In The Morning interview a few years back. This is the essence of pure Hip-Hop! Hopefully, Cole and a few others can restore this energy ✨

[@sambroers4652]

He brought me here cause he mentioned it in the new Nardwuar interview!

[@daandeinum5979]

@@sambroers4652 mooi dat alle tatta’s die die shit hebben gezien gelijk naar deze docu gingen haahahh

[@duart310]

Eww

[@hjillumi880]

uh our generations never went away nor our cultures styles and energy what the fuck is this ? this is creepy ?

[@hjillumi880]

like your generation is literally imitating everything and acting like we don´t exist ? do you notice anything ?

[@mikesteele1034]

Best hip hop documentary ever..!! This material is gold for music history.

[@hereisayana8207]

Salute to this man for going into these areas to film when no one else wanted to go there

[@dr.nigsopmcchortlefag9544]

Are you kidding me? This was 1986. Rap was already working on a 2nd or 3rd generation. Movies like Beat Street, Style Wars, Wild Style, Krush Groove, Breakin, etc. had already been made. Everybody wanted a piece of the action, and the media was all over these guys and these neighborhoods. Shit, I was a film student and making movies in the LES.

[@coldestwinter9913]

This scene was highly fetishized and immensely profitable.

[@michielroskam3877]

dutch people have no fear, we are like: yoo this the mexican cartel, yoo my guys lets do some drugs and have a interview, ok.

[@hanschouwman4536]

@@coldestwinter9913 what is wrong with that.

[@hanschouwman4536]

There are 2 Guus from Chicago.I wondered since1987..

[@Iljinarchive]

I saw this in the Netherlands when it was on television. Made by Belgian journalists. Belgium is our neighbouring country. It made a huge impression on me. I was very much into hiphop. Doug E. fresh was like a god. It was amazing to see him for the first time.

[@patrimonioalianzaoldschool7873]

I wonder if there you have made a Netherland Hip Hop documentary from the 80s?...

[@MegaG15]

@@patrimonioalianzaoldschool7873 You mean Dutch rap? Dutch rap started in 91 from Amsterdam (Osdorp)

[@patrimonioalianzaoldschool7873]

@@MegaG15 No, I got a cassette tape from Amterdam Rap from 1984 that my brother bought.... but I wonder if YOU in the Netherland have any documentary of the scene there even if it is rap or breakin, cause here in Colombia we made almost 3

[@ajarnray4115]

VPRO was the only one who gave any attention to HIP HOP on TV and radio in those days. Awesome to see this again I was a kid when I watched it for the first time. Thanks for the upload 🙂

[@patrimonioalianzaoldschool7873]

I wonder if there you have made a Netherland Hip Hop documentary from the early 80s?...

[@youxl5237]

It is most definitely a must to watch the full lenght of this Classic documentary! I can still remember the impact of it when it was aired on dutch tv back when I was 17 yrs old. I'm 52 now lol. Back then everything was being imported so to watch a Dutch made documentary about the origins of Hip Hop in NY was very unique. Despite the fact that we already had a fast developing, massive Dutch underground Hip Hop scene, it was still unique because everything was based on import. Litterally everything was being imported back then except for cheese lol. Every friday we used to go downtown to a record store called 'Rhytm import' to check out the latest joints freshly flown over from USA but mainly from NY. Thats how it was. And not just with records but with clothes and sneakers too. We couldnt even buy a simple dope baseball cap back then in the Netherlands not even in Amsterdam the Capitol. Because you couldnt find any, except for occasionally imported Nike caps or the lame4ss truckdriver caps ugh. I can imagine how crazy this must sound today but back then it was like a dream come true when you could rock a LA Raiders or an LA Kings cap or a Yankees of Mets cap or a baseball jacket at a Hip Hop party. Not to mention that classic brand named 'Troop' or Dapper Dan outfits.. All eyes would be on you lol. So whenever someone would fly to the states to visit a relative, that persons friends would give that person money so he or she could bring back a sh!tload of the flyest caps, kangol hats, sneakers , clothes etc. etc. The youngsters will never know the struggle 😁 It's very ironic tho when people nowadays say that Europe (paris/milan) is the Mecca of Fashion. That may be true.. BUT.. if it wasn't for our Culture.. then fashion would not be as stylistic as it is today!!!! And to most of us from my generation here in Amsterdam, it all started with movies such as 'Wild Style', 'Beat Streat' and 'Breakin' back in the early 80's and a few years later this jewel called 'Big fun in the Big town' came along. And the impact was huge! After that, 'Yo MTV Raps' with the legendary 'Fab Five Freddy', 'Dr. Dré' and 'Ed Lover' took over and the rest is history!! But to me BFITBT is somewhere on top of the list of all time influential classics and It is very much worth watching the full lenght of this priceless documentary. Especially if you haven't witnessed the Birth of Hip Hop!!!! Excellent study material 💯💯

[@DB-qm4mt]

I love Holland I was there 1st in 99 and the hip hop style was heavy then too. airmax lots and lots of airmax

[@LorenzoAngeloBeatz]

En kijk wat er nu gebeurt is met hip hop ik kan wel huilen. Ben van 93 jammer dat ik dit gemist heb

[@zeikerd]

waaaaat noooouuuu

[@youxl5237]

@@DB-qm4mt 😂 Yeahh Airmax has always been the fav model of the streetculture overhere. I still rock 'em tho 😂💯

[@youxl5237]

@@LorenzoAngeloBeatz Niet veel soeps nee. That's why I still blast my 90's boom bap daily 💯💯

[@WestIndianAK]

This doc is solid gold...it was made at just the time when hip hop was beginning to go mainstream, but hadn't gotten all the way there yet. We see LL Cool J still living at his grandmother's house, FFS...and yet he makes so many points that later came true, from his observation at 30:00 that "Male rappers haven't even got to where they're supposed to be yet" to his statement that once they got there, female rappers would make more of a splash as well. Plus the analysis of the gentleman from the Lost Poets who sees hip hop already degenerating into the commercialism and superficiality that would take it over in the '90s, although the art form was distinguished by its penchant for social commentary in its early years. This is an amazing snapshot of hip hop culture at a key juncture in its evolution. 🙂

[@kevindube7096]

With the plastic on the couch and everything! 😂

[@Scotty-P]

Hip Hop was "beginning to go mainstream" by 1982.

[@nutboy93]

SKOTP69 not worldwide

[@WestIndianAK]

@@Scotty-P Sure, it was *catching the attention* of the mainstream by 1982, with songs like “The Message” and “Planet Rock” and movies like “Style Wars” and “Wild Style.” But when I said “going mainstream,” I was referring more to *taking over* the mainstream, e.g. consistently topping the charts, capturing suburban white kids’ imaginations, etc. That evolution was underway by ‘82, but it was still building by ‘86, with songs like “Walk This Way” ushering the process along.

[@arnokragten4730]

Thnx for the info

[@elixer4life]

They, the Dutch public broadcaster VPRO, the ones that commissioned this documentary, also hosted a radio show late 80ties into the 90ties featuring lots of genres including NY rap & hiphop. With government $ they got their hands on this late night timeslot & lots of great music so people like me growing up in the far, far away Dutch countryside could dream about culture, music in general, NYC and rap. Now 35 years later I see this documentary while living in NYC myself. Love the great prep work ensuring interviews with all these folks and the fabulous b-roll to go with it. I've been here for a while, but the colors of NYC in the 80ties made way for something like rap to emerge.

[@emovic8]

This is gold, im from The Netherlands and ive never seen this doc. (Grandmaster Flash, Latin quarterr, Sir juice magic mike! Echt ziek voor woorden dit 🇳🇱

[@MysteryOfMovies]

Because it's Belgian...

[@theodorrichey]

VPRO is Dutch, the dude seems Belgian. Idd echt een sicke docu! LL cool J ook gewoon die nog bij zijn oma woont 🥲. Heel tof dit 35 jaar later te zien!

[@lucasv.drunen3384]

What a beautifull doc. Positive vibes, people on the grind, believing in them selfs, taking chances, being aware of what they are and what they are becoming, even the influences they have on the people. wonderfull to have this little piece to the past and the roots to hip-h.

[@stephanelimbourg3584]

This video influenced my life when I first saw it on Belgian tv in the 80s. Hip Hop became my religion and I never stopped listening to it till today. I recorded all the songs/sounds of this documentary on tape to play it in my walkman, blaster and later car. I'm from 73 and will be always grateful to Marcel Van Thilt for making this video. At that time I loved Schooly-D and imagined all hip-hop parties as shown at the end of the video. Bless

[@nutboy93]

THIS IS SO HARD. Always wanted to see an authentic doc from pre late 80s

[@mlaw1212]

Thanks for having this documentary for us to watch. I'm from da Bronx New York and I really appreciate seeing this for the first time 👍🏾🇯🇲

[@PercivalFromWales]

I watched this documentary on Dutch television when it was first broadcasted. Now I'm 50 years old. Where did time go?

[@michaelm732]

Yep, hier nog eentje, ook 50jr. Wat dacht je van alle TDK bandjes met live opnames van RunDMC, LL Cool J en de Beastie Boys?! Mooie tijden, ik luister en kijk er nog vaak naar.

[@jibberism9910]

41.... jaren 80 waren wel dik in m'n herinnering, maar ik was nog klein.

[@AMR15H]

Ik werd pas 11 jaar later geboren en zie dit nu pas. Dit is echt een van de beste Nederlandse docu’s die ik ooit gezien heb.

[@patrimonioalianzaoldschool7873]

@@AMR15H I wonder if there you have made a Netherland Hip Hop documentary from the early 80s?.

[@ivyking4149]

Pure gold, this needs to be seen a million times more

[@joeflow3966]

This is such a valuable piece of Hip Hop history. Priceless!

[@dannyespinal9924]

86 while this great documentary was being filmed Eric B n Rakim were some where lurking bout to blow up.

[@bingrim]

WILDSTYLE, STYLE WARS, BEATSTREET AND BREAKIN...ADD THIS MOVIE TO THE LIST.

[@kevindube7096]

I got to watch em all once a year, but it’s something about these documentaries with no script just reality. Wild Style was good for combining script with real but I stay searching for the snapshots of time like this!

[@2TrainWakefield]

I love being from the Bronx. I love living in the Bronx.

[@tom.a5796]

damn, that mystery crew had their shit tight. It's a shame they never blew up.

[@BigSi-xw6wv]

I said the same thing. Back then N.y was real biased

[@bxdale83]

​@@BigSi-xw6wv Was it NY bias? Understand this doc was filmed in the fall of 1986. Mystery Crew's style was outdated. The shout rap they was doing was big in 1985. Nobody was rapping like that anymore. Eric B & Rakim already dropped by then and changed the game. MC Shan, KRS One/BDP, Ultramagnetic MC's, and later in 86 Kool G Rap all elevated the game with lyricism and complex rhymes.

[@rayygun]

I can't believe I hadn't seen this gold. superb quality footage.

[@WestIndianAK]

Right?? How in the *HELL* am I only now hearing of this???

[@lotuscabrio2937]

@@WestIndianAK Because it was aired in the Netherlands and Belgium. This guy has belgian flemish accent and he traveled all the way

[@check2000]

@@lotuscabrio2937 is a belgian dude, Marcel van thilt

[@lotuscabrio2937]

@@check2000 that s what i said lmao

[@altano11]

Woww vet man, dit is kippenvel! Dat ik deze gouden documentaires nu pas heb ontdekt!

[@YCS360]

Echt waar!

[@casper8427]

Geweldig he

[@theMIDImaniac]

Jahaaaa! DIK! Vroeger grijs gekeken en toen kwijt geraakt. Hier begon mijn liefde voor de scene. Beat Street, break dance op karton buiten op straat. Toen 13 jaar en zwaar onder de indruk! Thanks for the upload!

[@amacem4537]

Wat heeft grijs kenteken ermee te maken?

[@theMIDImaniac]

@@amacem4537 grijs gekeken. Niet kenteken. Kijken totdat de band van slechte kwaliteit werd. Dat betekent het.

[@ConqueringLionKappa]

@@theMIDImaniac die millennials van tegenwoordig he :D

[@theMIDImaniac]

@@ConqueringLionKappa hahaha! 😂😂

[@CommonSenseless1993]

Such an amazing documentary. This was documented right when hip hop culture was on the verge of changing music forever. Such a rare view of hip hop’s infancy. The divide between conscious rap, party rap, and gangsta rap has always been there. It’s crazy that the argument for what should be considered “real” hip hop has been a point of contention since its humble beginnings in the early 80s. Nothing has changed and it’s time for people to accept that hip hop has a place for all kinds of expression.

[@Tes-qe1jc]

Hip hop actually began in the mid 70’s .

[@CommonSenseless1993]

@@Tes-qe1jc If we really want to get technical, rap’s inception can be traced back to the early days of blues at the turn of the century. I’m saying that hip hop culture as we know it today really started in the early 80s. But you can make a slim argument for the late 70s towards the end of the disco era.

[@Tes-qe1jc]

@@CommonSenseless1993 you’re right.

[@mlaw1212]

Yes, the late 70's the start but do you know that rap really started from Reggae music ?.🤔 Alot of people don't realize that the early rappers were the offsprings and descendants of islanders such as Jamaica and Puerto Rico. In Jamaica, WE started with chatting ( raping ) over a beat ( the music ) and the children, such as myself. Were too poor to buy musical equipment so we decided to make music from pounding our fists on the desks at school and beat boxing from our mouths 😂 I love the BX ❤🗽

[@Eric196910]

I have seen this documentary about 100 times I think. Back in 1986, I had taped this and the tape was broken at a certain time. Every now and then I look it up on KZbin and watch it. I can remember the whole documentary from start to finish. Great documentary. I heard about Schoolly D and Just-Ice for the first time when I saw this in 1986. And I immediately bought the records of them. It is good to see the late Bizmarkie performing at his best here.

[@asnwoa8280]

Wow bro that’s really cool.. In that time we watched the vhs 📼 over and over again..

[@FunBoxBoards]

this Documentary is a lost treasure... thanks for posting this MusicMan1470

[@spierdalaczzestanowisk212]

Im a apolish guy who live's in Netherland,i love old school hip hop since i i remember,it was not easy in 89-91 to get some tracks on the A-B tape.This film has blown my mind.Especialy whe the guy just wolked im LL COOL JAY's house 😮 how skinny he was 😆

[@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931]

Imagine, the guy was only 17 or something..

[@GoodxJ]

Thankfully this dude decided to travel to NYC and make this back then...this is dope! #hiphop

[@Vinckified]

That dude (Marcel Vanthilt) is from Belgium and is still doing some cool stuff, he recently even released a solo album that is available on spotify

[@boogiedownbronx73]

and this dude was white and from The Netherlands where Hip Hop barely was known at the time

[@renevanbaalen3614]

@funky doolittle this dude did not represent the netherlands from the streets where hiphop and breakdance was already very popular from the beginning of the 80’s, still a great docu about the state of the NY scene at that moment, later on we got our own ‘hiphop’ like Urban Dance Squad and King Bee, but we were there listening to hiphop from the beginning for sure

[@bobmarley4272]

@@Vinckified Wow, hip hop was known at the time in Belgium? That's cool.

[@operatorsteff663]

(26:14) "The things I do, makes me a star, and you can be too if you know who you are, just put yo mind to the goal, and you will go real far, like the pedal to the metal when you're driving a car" he just made an amazing verse out of no where!

[@bryantwilliams647]

it's the verse from the live version of "Here We Go" by Run DMC. He changed it up a lil bit.

[@MindGem]

tip to everyone who liked this doc. There's a swedish journalist called Mats Nileskär who had a radio program called Soul Corner from 1978 to I guess the 90s but this guy interviewed absolutely every big name in hiphop at their prime. It's a jewel, see if you can find it.

[@GoodxJ]

shoutout J. Cole for putting a lot of people onto this to learn some Hip-Hop history!!! cheers

[@deandreway9682]

I am hip hop

[@mikemaceda3222]

Who is he

[@doobtubes]

Ahh you just a baby

[@hjillumi880]

oh gawd. and your fucking avatars are styled like our generation.

[@hjillumi880]

lol why the fuck are you all styled like our generation demography culture how we grew up ?

[@ZyppBe]

Marcel casually knocking on LL's front door and grams opening the door. Good stuff.

[@bladebrown8261]

Man what Schooly D was saying is so Real look at hip hop today man

[@kristopherevans6283]

Crazy, right?

[@cracknigr6065]

19:44 I'm kinda sad that the mystery crew didn't make it, that rap was dope as hell!

[@CreativeVUZE]

Very dope documentary. Scary we're having the same debates about rap today. It's like we're stuck in a loop

[@ludomirsteinbruck9376]

Why are you scared?

[@kukko83]

Top quality documentary, thanks!

[@dragonflyjones7623]

Nawudar Jcole interview brought me here. Salute to the old school

[@hjillumi880]

Yeah but No thanks

[@MrDehoop]

Haha, I remember this, such an exciting documentary. Hip hop still in it's raw infant state. So much creative energy. Not much later LL came to Holland for the Def Jam Tour including Public enemy & Run DMC. What a Golden Era & that in the midst of the gloomy eighties.

[@musiconly4420]

I was 3 in 86, I wish to have lived my youth in this era...the more decades pass by the more it's becoming dull in all aspects, starting from music.

[@macgruber4689]

That Grandmaster Flash leather jacket would get you drown in you know what. Precious, objective, foreign time capsule document on some wild shit going on in NY, that spread around the globe and is still sprouting. Beautiful.

[@krewcialofficial]

Thanks for posting this. I saw a rerun of this inspiring documentary in '87 on Belgian national TV, which inspired me to start making music myself. Over 5 years ago, I started researching and developing a follow-up to this movie. All I can say is that there will be a part 2 to this movie, documenting how things have changed over 3 decades later. It's in the works.

[@MrLedeberg]

9000 ! :)

[@timvansteenkiste3663]

How´s the progress on part 2 going? :) looking forward to it!

[@mikaelaltemark7059]

how's it going

[@anastasiapandora1595]

💜

[@essegeo]

Update?

[@jody024]

Such a well made Documentry on a very important time in music and the world. The host is a Belgian singer btw.

[@lairesmakespeoplehappy]

Pffft. had this on VHS, loaned it to somebody and never got it back. Im so happy its on the tube now! Ive been promoting the "mystery crew" all my life!

[@anouarelrahaui5524]

i'll like the Dutch TV Hip Hop Doc (1986) this is populair in netherland was the hip hop scene big in 1986 i know about the funky fresh force that hiphopgroup was from Dj Dov And Def P

[@dries74marocben8]

Fun fact,, The journalists " Marcel Vanthilt " lives just around my corner for the past 15 years (In Antwerp Belgium) i see him time to time with his golden retriever. He is a down to earth kind of guy.

[@rachealsilburn901]

In 86 I was 5 but I remember sooo much! Now older, I would’ve thought my mom would be in sync with this era since she was only in her early 20’s but she was into old School music and would say stuff like, “these kids into that bee bop stuff.” “That ain’t real music.” Lol. She shunned upon it and I now find myself saying the same about this new wave of “music.” I can say though that this era of hip hop is timeless!

[@mobetta2092]

There were a lotta young people like your mother who was in her age range at that time and wasn’t into the hip hop culture or rap music (especially young ladies who didn’t live in NYC). Rap in those days was really marginalized.

[@the1only467]

80’s-90’s NYC was the bomb! I wished I’d had been born in this era in NYC. The ones who lived it are blessed individuals.

[@mobetta2092]

If you weren’t a teen or in your early 20s by the 80s or mid 90s, you really missed out on the true experience when NYC was the gatekeeper of rap and hip hop.

[@THEREALGOD38]

Wow this shit is epic,wasnt expecting legends like LL,roxanne shante,schooly d to be in it and everybodys talking the truth! Amazing film

[@hereisayana8207]

The teenagers were at Harry Truman high school, in the Bronx... It's the nice part of the Bronx... The subway doesn't go there, next to Co-op city condos

[@KamenSentaiMetalHero]

Doug E. Fresh perfectly explains everything wrong with Hair Metal.

[@kevindube7096]

💯 unintentionally predicted what would happen with the rise of commercialism in rap too. The artists of 2020 be lying if they say “we dress real, don’t wear no make up or glitter”

[@kamau506]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5y2pKSNg7iEp9U Schoolly D too

[@davem4193]

@@kamau506 best part of the documentary right there. "Rock-n-roll was meant to be bad, just like rap"

[@corbeau-_-]

@@davem4193 I was thinking that. You basically had like a north-korean style of hair-do's (quite literally a 'do'). Anyone who didn't conform didn't belong. I suppose shock rockers filled the void after that, but it's all about not wanting to conform to a certain social standard. The long hair, 'nasty' moves, the screams and songs about raw emotions. Rap and rock aren't that different in that sense. They are about defiance, about finding yourself in standards set by a previous generation. Fashion changes in a similar fashion and somehow people all tend to look foolish after a few decades (because standards have once again changed). Basically, we're a bunch of stubborn sheep ;)

[@corbeau-_-]

In that sense I liked the small talk with the older dude who said he didn't like any of the music - it's a young man's game

[@Xtc1231]

Thank you jcole 🙏🏽 definitely enjoyed watching this

[@hjillumi880]

Lol why do other generations of people who listen to what we grew up with look so preppy now

[@Toxicplyer]

Amazing listening to this documentary. I personally couldn’t relate too much w hip hop growing up. I’m more of a Rock/ Funk fan and related to people like Prince and Motley Crue. I’ve always admired the rap of the 80s and 90s. Today’s Rap seems like it’s lost its growth.

[@qobo5socikwa666]

Golden video !! The birth of the mos infectious genre ever seen !!! Beautiful!!

[@NiKOliDANBURSKi]

Man, I could watch another 2-3 hours of that :)

[@mjp5425]

Damn in from the Netherlands and never saw this doc.. one of the best hip hop doc ever.

[@alantoler8266]

These were the greatest time in NEW YORK all of the best MCs the best DJs ...this is where lyrics and boom bap come from...from this TIME....nothing could ever duplicate these moments and Realism that captured the REAL NEW YORK...this is the frame of mind I stay on..for my hip hop the craft of it....the essence...

[@YoungST23]

the best MCs? wtf r u talking about hahahahahahahhahahaha

[@hoaxbusterhodler9676]

Prachtig. Mooi om te zien dat dit op ned 3 werd uitgezonden

[@dariusbaja21]

This was so cool to see and happy for once that KZbin recommended something good . I couldn't help but think about guys like Alpo , Ritch and Azie while watching this lol To know they was right there doing what they did , especially when they showed Harlem . Good watch Especially when they went into Harlem , I

[@danyzuhj]

Geweldig! My dad got this taped on VHS back when it aired

[@mreinsteintoptop]

Bedankt Bram van Splunteren. Dutch made Docu! NL bracht de interesse en fenomeen HIPHOP reeds aan de man in and out the states . Zelfs US inhabitants rocking this Docu! WOOHAA

[@discofrisko]

The guy doing the interviews is Belgian. His name is Marcel Vanthilt...

[@mreinsteintoptop]

Marcel Vanthilt 🤙🏽

[@mreinsteintoptop]

Belgium Origin. Close. Salute

[@brfisher1123]

It's amazing to see how far rap has come in the 35 years since this was made!

[@hjillumi880]

lol yeah how far backwards

[@alianshampoprisioners7056]

... In reality rap dpirit is death, now is part of the industry is no belong to the people no more, the capitalism win again...

[@JeeGee114]

I stopped listening in 1993.

[@Ryanez93]

"We're going back to the roots where it all began. At radio stations all over the land. With Jot Co, Hot Rod and Monte View. DJ's who Rap like they DJ's do. With names like Hatter and Doctor John in the 50s or 60s keeping Rap alive. Just a step for are tradition, for Rap to take on a Social Mission."

[@modr0160]

So cool to see all these legends trying to make it

[@ZeuzMakesMusic]

Came from Cole

[@armandobenitez6706]

R.I.P some of them , RIP Biz Markie

[@wixskid]

32:50 pure gold. I feel for the kid. This was television. This was spreading realism and exposing the possible future. Show people what's going on and let them fill in the blanks by them self - unbiased and ethical. How it was and how it should be. Not anymore tho. It where hard times, but great times. Watch out for the revive, because it will come and most will be to late to see it. Hold your eyes open, life is awesome. Love

[@therealk-tone214]

Stumbled upon this doc by accident dead ass! Dope! Russ should’ve signed those chi town cats fr fr 🔥 Queens been puttin on since day one 💯

[@robertlund5694]

Pardon ?!

[@TheWorldcitizen667]

VPRO had the best music programs ever! Bram van Splunteren took you inside the music iso you just being the consumer of a product. Onrust was also a good example btw.. I miss that sort of indepth tv on subcultures.

[@pimy3507]

Sometimes KZbin algorithm just works... why? dont know...but when it works some gems pop up.

[@uhhh_adam]

We need to find this Mystery Crew...

[@winemoens9761]

Shout out to Marcel Vanthilt!! Respect!!

[@dudenoma]

Its crazy how back then LL said nobody wanna come to a concert and hear about how life is so bad and hear about the ghetto. Same thing is happening today with modern “rappers”, people feel like there’s no substance in their music but when every one is young like LL was, rappers nowadays feel the exact same way, oh nobody wanna hear that conscious rap.. interesting how its the same loop

[@hjillumi880]

uh rappers we grew up with are still rapping stop talking as if there is only one type beardo

[@Dshak347]

The problem is with todays Rap is unlike back then where there was different kinds of rap and rappers and messages, todays rap sounds for the most part the same.

[@Kabooooom670]

@@Dshak347 90 percent of all rappers sound the same its terrible

[@rawiyahsphere]

Suliaman El Hadi's of the Last Poets words were prophetic! Consciousness has mainly been stripped from Hip Hop and ego-driven, buck-broken, selfish, immature, traumatized corporate controlled rappers have been imposed on the industry. Every time we lumen a mind with the Knowledge of Self, we brighten our future!

[@bollie4431]

Dem Boyz from Chicago was🔥🔥🔥

[@americus]

R.I.P. Biz Markie

[@Flamenichtrum]

Dit is geweldig! Forreal, thank you so much for sharin, much respect. This a treasure right here, i'm tellin you. 👌

[@dakdak1781]

I never knew Marcel was interviewing these legends! A lot of people would love to be in his place...:)

[@djralphycbsmunoz3719]

LOVE THIS VIDEO SHOWS HOW DEEP I GO IN THE HIP HOP CULTURE DJ RALPHY CBS LES WITH ALL THE ORIGINALS THE ONLY DJS IN THE VIDEO FEATURE GRAND MASTER FLASH & DJ RALPHY CBS

[@MusicMan1470]

Appreciated! Thanks for your comment, DJ Ralphy CBS Les! Keep rockin' on!

[@robertcarmona1982]

Ralphy, when he asked you what do you think will happen to you and your friends....? You couldn't have been more on point. You were ahead of your time as far as that was concerned. LES LOVE 4EVA!

[@michaelrollins9874]

Back in the day when True HipHop was alive i was 9 years old in 86 and i really miss the greatest HipHop artists

[@hjillumi880]

lol not quite the generation then

[@Lilbroda]

the end is priceless

[@malalford]

Had this on VHS years ago. Been looking for it for a long time

[@catterpillar9728]

Dang. They really did a number on rap music

[@albertofava865]

I'm watching this with LL cool J living with his grandma while he is on TV in like a police Series, he came a long way

[@rachealsilburn901]

This is a gem! As a youngin back then and from VA, all these artists and their songs used to be in heavy rotation! The days when kids actually played outside...jump rope, hide n’ seek, patty cake, 123 red light, hop scotch, jacks, riding bikes, roller skating, riding big wheels etc....Either somebody was cleaning they house with the music blasting or somebody was blasting music from their car. Some consider VA southern and some don’t, so maybe this was just a VA thing but you always new when a female just had a bath because they’d come outside with powder starting at the top of they neck...lol😂😂😂. Also, jerry curls was silky as hell and baby hairs was slicked!

[@jantjebeton4856]

This is gold ..im from Amsterdam but i see this for the first time ..thanks to upload this 👊👊

[@siriusbeard6929]

8:34 the Yankees hat with the write rope on the brim!

[@torbjornvanderheyden8887]

overall cool Documentary still cant believe he get to meet Russel Simmons, Doug E fresh and all the orher great ones !

[@poplifeinctv]

RIP BIZ MARKIE!... THANK YOU SIR.....

[@chapalapajackson7113]

This video is one of the best 80s tapes that I saw

[@flapdrol75]

Those 2 dudes from chicago that are hoping to meet with russel simmons are fucking dope

[@petiteverdot6673]

Back when Rap was hungry, raw, figuring itself out and giving the youth a voice, an inspiration, a way out. Notice how most rappers came as a duo or a group cuz they knew at that point of time, they need to collaborate to make it. True reflection of the Era. Now, it has evolved into solos with cross featurings to shine better. Same concept, just different methods. That interviewer should be honored in BET awards.

[@thehellezell]

As an American, it's really sad that a Dutch show can do such a better job of covering the U.S. than our own journalists. Not saying there aren't or weren't great honest journalists covering the U.S. from the U.S., but so many of our journalists our co-opted and part of the corporate death machine

[@corbeau-_-]

it's what the US is good at ;) While the Dutch used to be good at not giving a crap - similar to new york/new amsterdam itself. At any rate, this channel was sponsored by the government to be impartial and informative - something that would reach a far smaller audience in the US at any rate. Indeed, your overall goal is making big fat bucks - the American Dream... Productive, but soulless.

[@Stoney-Jacksman]

People always tend to make the same cliché statements..why? There was: -Style Wars. -The Freshest Kids -Wild Style and many more. And dont be mistaken this (upper middle class white) journalist did this for how own gain probably, its not some saint like mission. Since here in Holland there was a looot of racism going on and still is, and classism, (even tho some dutch people are still rocking their blindfolds) and also radio didnt play any hiphop etc back then over here in Holland btw etc. But, people love making a dual statement so they can make it simpler in their own mind. Sorry to burst that bubble, if thats even possible in the un-flexible mind. Its a European thing, dont think its beter here...its not. Some things are, some things not. What I hate most is how people like Corbeau here ^ feels this false superiority complex. It is interwoven in their identity, if you take that away....emptiness starts to show itself.

[@patrimonioalianzaoldschool7873]

@@Stoney-Jacksman hmm ..."also radio didnt play any hiphop"...? Maybe you didn't hear the pirate stations in 1984 when I visited Amsterdam, and brought to Colombia 3 tapes with rap in it. Greettings, Hans.

[@cleverhardy5230]

@@patrimonioalianzaoldschool7873 And Miker G and Sven also did a hip hop novelty song called Holiday Rap, which sampled Madonna. Even Russell Simmonds knows how gimmicky that was, so at least he knows not all Dutch had taste back then.

[@J4s0n3r]

@@cleverhardy5230 I understand what you mean but they didn't sample the original (Madonna). producer Ben Liebrand figured out which instruments were used in the original and re-recorded the music from scratch as opposed to sampling the original...

[@tinfoilhat1619]

"the things i do, makes me a star; and you can be too if you know who you are. just put your mind towards it, youll go real far; like the pedal to the metal when your driving a car" -DMC

[@danutasnbrown9717]

The Mystery Crew at 18:35 should have gotten big; amazing stuff

[@Sixosicco]

its interesting seeing talent that never made it. makes me want to go harder

[@BitcoinOnlywithRobin]

Russel Simmons ignored them. Shame

[@bxdale83]

I said this on another video about them but while Mystery Crew was dope, their style of rap was played out in 1986. This doc was filmed in the Fall of 86. By then MC Shan, Rakim, BDP, Ultramagnetic MC's, and Kool G Rap had arrived on the scene. 1987 Public Enemy and NWA debuted. Hip Hop was moving fast back then. That 1985 style of rap from the Mystery Crew was over

[@retlaw190]

@@bxdale83 You hit on the head there bro. Thats a fact

[@ransmomebloke1949]

@@bxdale83 I'm sure he gave them a listen and said, "You sound like the Fat Boys". The guys were talented though. I wonder if they're still involved in music.

[@klaasbouwman9279]

Happy This era was documented