Watch the Twin Engines dyno: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nny5l59reMt_abc
@sstevocamaro Жыл бұрын
I like the fact they tested it with full accessories! It’s hard to find dyno testing like that!
@KingJT80 Жыл бұрын
they do it with baja big blocks that make this level of power but way more $$$$$
@MerlinOpeth Жыл бұрын
Pats a boss
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
No it is not. But why would you waste money on it? Most of us who dyno do it to tune and/or diagnose. After a while you know exactly how much power each type of accessory robs. If you want to talk ACTUAL important factors think water temps and correction factors.
@ted471911 ай бұрын
The 7.3 Godzilla HP numbers are with the accessories. Take them off it's 500hp ish
@ThaMetalMan Жыл бұрын
PLEASE MORE BIG BLOCK CHEVY CONTENT! ❤
@teknoaija1762 Жыл бұрын
Really nice stuff for bbc s.I raced around the millennium retiring 2007.But that is how it goes.I bought new Dart Pro 1 345 cc heads and with 8-71 my 100% streetable Malibu SS and cruised that around with occasional 9.624/142.945 mph.That was driven with M/T 18.5/15/33 and on airfield track.2004 I built a 538 bbc based on an old 90 s pro stock engine and 360 cc heads+the old blower.It was really enjoyable on the streets as it was so humble and appeared to have some torque.So,to track? we went and totally fried the converter!It smoked like steam engine in the starting 300 ft boiling tranny fluids and still managed to go 9.80 s.I bought a new converter which was far too rigid,of course.During the winter managed to find a nice 526 bbc with JE pistons and Brooks B-2 billet rods.Also acquired a 12-71 Magnesium Teflon stripped blower.Just out of curiosity assembled the engine without the blower and it went 9.922/141.702 NA. I also bought used Hoosier 22.5/15/34.5 slicks and stuffed them in my Malibu and I recorded 1.46 60 footers on normal virgin asphalt.That was quite nice as I terrorized local motor cycles in traffic lights.I remember one Hayabusa guy who just could not believe he was gaptized by old "Yankee" car.I retired in 2008 and sold Malibu to my friends who had been fans since mid 90 s.We had plans to make it really fast as there were 4 guys to pay for that but unfortunately this project has been dragging on ever since.
@bradleymadosh9117 ай бұрын
Love big block Chevy engines.
@richardkaltenbach39613 ай бұрын
The LS Is Overrated!
@johnbehneman1546 Жыл бұрын
WOW!!!! HOLLEY IS ALWAYS INNOVATING!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH.
@pa2922 Жыл бұрын
Best show on earth!
@davidmiller4594 Жыл бұрын
Yup! Just wish they'd do more than 1 show a month...
@johnk6206 Жыл бұрын
Engine Masters has entered the chat.
@yaniayache5132 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
Yep it sure is brother
@mightymikethebear Жыл бұрын
@@johnk6206 The Engine Masters guys are really into Mopar engines.
@crebbsjd Жыл бұрын
I love watching these builds and rebuilds. You both rock it out and have an awesome job! TY for inspiring
@CallofDoobie585 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for today's morsel of goodness! Pat Rocks!!! Hes a true pro stock kinda guy!
@jamesbarr3455 Жыл бұрын
Pat always looks like a Mad Scientist when the throttle goes over the hump. "I'm making NOISE!!! MUAH HAH HAH!!"
@lagoonrd41736 ай бұрын
His full chest pockets of pens is impressive 😂😂
@NAPAuniversalJoints Жыл бұрын
Honestly the first build with 600 hp and 630tq was a better build for a street car and would be faster in anything other than a fully dedicated drag car
@GeneralLao8 ай бұрын
yep and you get an extra 50 lb feet of tq
@johnbehneman1546 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I LOVE BIG BLOCK BUILDS!!!! THEY ARE SO BADASS!!!
@RonnieWaynesGarage2 ай бұрын
Pat is a great guy and he knows his stuff, don’t let the pencil protecter, flashlight and tale measure on his hip fool you. Most people do not know he was an instructor at SAM Tech back in the day. He also had a beautiful big block red G body Malibu they campaigned in NMCA. They won many NMCA titles and the car was featured in Hot Rod magazine.
@lorenc801020 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, he's probably forgotten more than most people know!
@Joebro200 Жыл бұрын
Man, these big block builds that spin to 7K must be the best on the street. Not too crazy in the torque department, so you shouldn’t spin off the line if you’re suspension is dialed and you’re running a decent size tire. And you’ll just keep pulling all the way to 7,000. This would be an awesome engine in a street car. I had a 468 big block once in a 1970 el Camino and a friend with a pretty wild 347 engine in a 68 mustang would always pull away from me in a race. He just made power up high really well and my motor was all torque. Made me want to build a big block that spun like a small block. Best of both worlds
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
454 4 bolt block or 502? Smaller crank solid lift cam. Real good cyl head
@dano4572 Жыл бұрын
I HAVE A 1991 CHEVY S10, REGULAR CAB, SMALL BED,,, JUST WAITING HERE FOR THAT PERFECT MOTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM NOT KIDDING HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@dustinmarquis5884 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a high rpm build. 10k rpm. I think that would sound amazing. Plus to see all the parts and precision needed for that.
@PerformanceEngines Жыл бұрын
pro stock. 100k build
@jondahl3173 Жыл бұрын
I'd settle for 8k rpm 496 build...it would be fun...and loud!
@larrynorsworthy8582 Жыл бұрын
289 would be affordable to do that.
@mikewhite3123 Жыл бұрын
Think Chevy 302... Destroked 327 and they rev all day long...
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji Жыл бұрын
Yeah that short stroke
@marlobreding7402 Жыл бұрын
Once upon a time I had a 1969 GTO that had a dealer installed 428. It was what they called The Royal Bobcat if it was on it Royal Pontiac. They claim to have 375 horsepower Hot Rod Magazine said tri-north of 500 horsepower. I would love it if you guys could find one and bring it to stock specs and Dyno and see what happened. Then Advance the cam timing and see what happens that woke mine up beyond what it already was. I used to Cloyes True Roller timing chain set and just Advance the cam timing at the crank 4°. That made that thing come more alive out of the hole.
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
They probably couldnt do it...they would need to buy the parts and hardly any aftermarket support who sponsors these shows. Wish these types of channels would use some good old school cam mfrs...not a fan of Comp Cams. Here in Ca we have Isky and Crower who are top notch imo
@marlobreding7402 Жыл бұрын
@@gordocarbo I grew up in Culver City,
@lesotwell3561 Жыл бұрын
Pat you are a evil genius lol! On pump gas and naturally aspirated. Very nice guys!
@blakebusbee-fg9dt Жыл бұрын
I HURT MYSELF , snifffff without this show !
@thespicemelange.1 Жыл бұрын
Did he just say 'oh, snap'? Guud lurd...
@truebetold65 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loove your show, Legends.
@ramonriveraroman4170 Жыл бұрын
Where have you been all my life? what beautiful torque and horsepower you have my dear.
@RaspingPompano2 Жыл бұрын
I’ve made comments about not needing to tell us all these crazy specs but I know realize you do it just in case someone wants to copy what you’re doing and they know what to order and to teach people like me who know but really don’t understand some of the stuff. Amazing video and thank you for many years of entertainment.
@garhpd11 ай бұрын
I want specs. Speak for yourself
@G.i.modeMonsta8 ай бұрын
I have 454 Home that’s been marinating waiting for me to tear it down I’m gonna build this exact engine🏆🏆🏆
@ZONES89RS Жыл бұрын
These days I don’t see a 496 like that as worth it. LS engines out there making that much on pump gas should steer someone to do a 565 big block since you are already doing expensive big block stuff. Would be 850 HP if done right
@stevesolo166 ай бұрын
The Super Sniper will handle up to 1500 hp, but building a N/A BBC that MAKES 1500 hp is not so easy, or cheap. What I would like to see is a 496 set up for a top of the line Brodix SR20 or Brodix BRX(same thing) head or AFR Magnum 18 degree and see how it compares. These heads are quite expensive, so let's rock your Dyno!
@richardkaltenbach39613 ай бұрын
How About A 572 Setup! Ha!
@6426yy Жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see the 320 heads with the solid roller and other intake first.
@GJ-DT Жыл бұрын
And carb
@BEANS-O-MATICtransmissions Жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same
@kerrymarshall2071 Жыл бұрын
Now that's an engine I really want
@gilbertnaranjo6233 Жыл бұрын
Think I would have made it 11.5:1 compression. Aluminum heads drop the compression ration almost a full point and fuel injection timing helps compensate for detonation issues.
@v8trikebyers756 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving me my dose of horsepower
@arturozarate1752 Жыл бұрын
Good job! I'm a huge fan of the 4500 throttle bodies for the Terminator and the Super Sniper. Now if they made a nice dropped base air cleaner assembly for these huge things.....that would be something.
@MrChevelle83 Жыл бұрын
My 70 chevelle and tremec TKX would love this engine!!!!! good to know all id have to do is bolt a pile of expensive off the shelf parts together and print the dyno sheet from powernation! NO testing needed! ha!
@kendallkeil6996 Жыл бұрын
Now that's an engine, wow! Would love to see that go in a chevelle or Monte Carlo. That's a BA pump gas big block
@Lightning546 Жыл бұрын
What would be really bad ass would be putting it in an S-10 or S-15 pickup.
@stupidbird4U Жыл бұрын
Street engine😮😅 My street engines run between 1200 and 4500rpm and occasionally 6000rpm. Sick I want your street engine.❤
@cutty-mg3kf Жыл бұрын
That last graph is crazy! I would love to put this in a 3000lb car and let it eat.
@jaybramble2029 Жыл бұрын
Solid rollers do not live a long life on the street and you know it
@m.s.patrick2863 Жыл бұрын
I see London, I see France I see a cracked block due to overtightened oil pan bolts. 8:07. I really hope that's a dribble of BLK RTV. thanks for all the content!!
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
Probably is. I got freaked out by something similar bolting up my 12 bolt cover. Casting flaw Not sure a BB can crack from an oil pan bolt Id thnk it would strip first?
@fanisfbt8710 Жыл бұрын
Lovely, can we have one more run but with e85??? I'm really curious about that....
@blakebusbee-fg9dt Жыл бұрын
THE BEST SHOW on Planet earth !
@SeanBach-n1o10 ай бұрын
Pat is the Man! Frankie maybe someday.
@lonelypinebeefarm4297 Жыл бұрын
Getting ready to build a BBC for a trailer hauler. Would live to see a video on a big torque low rpm. Below 5000rpm
@MrChevelle83 Жыл бұрын
check out the GM 502 HT crate engine I have one in a 1985 K30 with a tremec TR4050 pulls amazing.
@alexgolovchenko3791 Жыл бұрын
That was really cool and fun to watch! 😎
@malamri424 Жыл бұрын
we need some hemi love. And please run them without belt accessories to make things fair!
@dalemckenzie2279 Жыл бұрын
Nah ... There guys couldn't have that ? They are big GM guys so they'll never have a fair matchup it'll be like the 454 vs 460 match where the 454 had all out top shelf stuff but the 460 had mild upgrades and like the 512 mopar that they built really mild and only made a little over 500 hp.
@tomtowers8513 Жыл бұрын
Put the 320 heads back on...360 heads on a 496... Yikes 😬
@Marc_Wolfe Жыл бұрын
"Quieter" Hydraulic lifters were created to cut down on maintenance errors and assembly errors. Nothing else.
@liberty4617 Жыл бұрын
You guys ever do the over the cam auxilery oiler mod, wher you tap into the oil gallery near the timing gear and run a thin tube alongside the oil return holes in the valley so that oil drips ontop of every cam lobe .?
@ThaMetalMan Жыл бұрын
Pat's the man
@sdubdizzle7116 Жыл бұрын
Love watching you guys, good team..... More high rpm how 2's please!!!!!!!
@johnbehneman1546 Жыл бұрын
WOW!!! I LOVE THE NEW HOLLEY THROTTLE BODY!!!! SO BADASS!!! I LOVE IT!!!
@markchapman2585 Жыл бұрын
This is the episode I was waiting for.
@jetenginethrust863 Жыл бұрын
Please for the PONTIAC MANIACS build a Butler Performance IAII Aluminum or cast iron Block NA engine for us you know you want to! 😉. Use all the best forged crank, pistons, alum heads, cam, lifters etc. to build it with fuel injection or carb, doesn't matter to me I'm an old school PONTIAC MANIAC since the 70's💪 P.S. Been a big fan of the show since the 90's with Joe Elmore and Chuck Hanson on HOT ROD TV💯👏
@henriyoung3895 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. Pat's awesome. Pat have you tried Dennis Collin's coffee yet ? Lol
@kipphawley4514 Жыл бұрын
You two guys really rock.but it would be perfect. It's cool to see you guys get a project with a big Block International Harvester pickup truck engine. As where have it supedup old School. Like it was during the early days of the 70s and 80s! See how much Hores power is capable of doing. Due to those types of engines are interchangeable with Ford parts.
@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын
unfortunately they were designed for low RPM torque, and this show deals with aftermarket parts to bolt on. You'd be better off stroking a Ford 460, easy enough to find one with a roller lifter setup already in the valley (that would save over a $1,000 trying to convert an old Cornbinder to roller lifters)
@blackericdenice Жыл бұрын
2:43 notice how clean his hands are. They look like he work in an office. Maybe he's just an actor who act like he work on cars. 13:50 $1,900 for the front drive kit? 18:23 The cam is the main reason it's making power up high. They change heads for show.
@blackericdenice Жыл бұрын
@@jackpoage5419 You did transmissions you say. Did you ever rebuild a 4L60e?
@blackericdenice Жыл бұрын
@@jackpoage5419 No one builds only Ford transmission. Why does the 89 Mustang GT tc lockup when it shift to 3rd gear?
@blackericdenice Жыл бұрын
@@jackpoage5419 So you only worked on 2008 to 2011 Ford transmission. So you saying you only know about 4 years of Ford transmission.
@georgegrierson Жыл бұрын
There's an obvious crack in the block at 8:09 where Frankie is installing the oil pan.
@rogerknapman1260 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's black RTV? Seems to be a bunch smeared around the pan area in general.
@georgegrierson Жыл бұрын
@@rogerknapman1260 yah maybe...
@MrChevelle83 Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that It looked like a string of sealer to me
@scottsmith312 ай бұрын
That’s also not the block, it’s the timing cover….
@barryhebert5839 Жыл бұрын
Crazy the amount of rust in that little of run time y’all did dyno setup should have some kind of coolant in them to prevent that instead of running city water inside them blocks
@schmitty_luv Жыл бұрын
Next up would be a high rpm 632 with aluminum rods cnc cylinder heads and jezel belt drive with 290degree duration and put it in a daily driver with a traction control system😅 (I have a daily driver if your interested in donating) …….. would be great to see total price breakdowns /comparisons would be even more impressive if everyone could have a big block daily driver vehicle.
@darringrey4329 Жыл бұрын
Yea that would be a dream build NA though plus a big dominator
@larsandersson5146 Жыл бұрын
Built one for my 69 chevelle, steel rods. 7300 rpm 14-1 e85 holley HP. 800++ whp🥰
@BlakeBusbee-n6y Жыл бұрын
Best show on earth 🌎🌍🌎🌍
@stevewix Жыл бұрын
I'm worried when the moment comes, Pat won't have what he needs in his front pocket.
@Sludge73 Жыл бұрын
That accessory drive was awesome. You can wait a while for my dollars, Summit. I just made a big purchase.
@letsride20579 ай бұрын
At 8:07 just above the socket on the pan bolt it looks like the block is cracked. I asked a vintage trans am car owner why Traco painted there motor what looked like off white. He told me it showed oil leaks and cracks the best. I see that now.
@johncatdaddy88953 ай бұрын
I remember seeing there were a lot of needle bearing failures in solid, roller lifter wheels, especially in solid street applications!??! It was thought that the needle rollers were not sufficient to withstand the concentrated load bearing, and a bushed wheel was deemed more durable. Bearings were failing - loosening up and winding up in the oilpan or worse! Anyone else hear of this?
@carguybikeguy Жыл бұрын
This thing needs to go into the Caprice.
@HDYaqui Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried an Edelbrock Fuel Injection system? Just wondering. Great Show!!!
@ripper-wrench Жыл бұрын
Not sure how good a hood scoop will look on a pump gas muscle car, but the horsepower output of the engine is not too shabby 👍
@royduenas119211 ай бұрын
There seems to be a crack in the block as shown 8:07 minutes into in the video. I'm just wondering if this crack would be a cause for concern in the longevity of the engine life. Either way, I always enjoy watching these videos. Keep em coming! 💯
@lindsaymcpherson4744 Жыл бұрын
I am that guy, I expected more torque . It actually lost heaps of torque, all those big holes destroy air speed ,
@jaybramble2029 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you use the AFR 290 oval...would give a lot more power guaranteed.
@gordocarbo10 ай бұрын
Torque would be improved for sure. Skipped to the dyno part soon as i saw the tq numbers I figured they were no name 320cc china heads
@Lightning546 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see what performance gains you guys could get with the Ford, 2023, 6.7L power stroke diesel.
@salvatoregiovanni8967 Жыл бұрын
Not cleaning off the old rtv from the oil pan and timing cover (and slapping new rtv on top of it) was very Mickey Mouse 🤡
@chadshepard5230 Жыл бұрын
I plan on building a 383 stroker. Going for 600 horsepower
@musclebone7875 Жыл бұрын
Build a 496 and go for 800hp😜
@cameronlund6811 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better, "Bunch of people would have been on some t-shirts".
@Kk-cy6jf Жыл бұрын
You guys really love BBC's
@sargepent98158 ай бұрын
Only thing that I'd have added to push that engine even harder would have been forged pistons, but those aren't practical for a driver car but that would have let them wind her up closer to 8000rpm without the real fear she'd rip a piston apart
@Gnif575 ай бұрын
dropped the oil pan to remove timing cover on a BBC? *sigh
@shawnmcatee895 Жыл бұрын
Im wondering if you requested that cam with a 110 LSA? I'm running an almost identical Comp. in a 501 (4.6B/3.766S) Dart BBC with Dart 345 Pro1 heads in my race boat. But I'm running custom RaceTech pistons that with a 48cc dome for a 13.2:1 CR. I made just short of 800hp and over 600 fllbs from 2800 to 7400. But my cam card showed 108 LSA. I'm running a Edelbrock 454R manifold.
@yodawunn6700 Жыл бұрын
At what point would you say a rev kit would be necessary? It seems you rarely see them used at all anymore. Maybe with the spring technology and cam profile designs, rev kits aren't as needed anymore.
@Westhelockpicker Жыл бұрын
I miss working on the older engines
@erikkrause717426 күн бұрын
Just curious what the preload is supposed to be....did you measure rotational force after 0 end play....
@bigcountrysgarage2.030 Жыл бұрын
Should do a build using a belt driven alternator.
@tomnoser9688 Жыл бұрын
What transmission would be a perfect match for this engine?
@Kurt-f4m Жыл бұрын
Pretty decent build. I feel it could have made even more power and at a lower rpm with a better head and a head better matched for the cubic inch, such as a dart or afr 335. In addition to a little tweak in the cam profile... Nonetheless it was a nice build!
@anhiirr Жыл бұрын
depends to me, id take streetability with a slightly "mild" tune vs something a bit more ideal for the pure drag strip use...also that build would be gutted/tubbed etc...id consider a slight sacrifice to torque even peak torque...to possibly bring the power numbers lower into the RPM range. But an outright classic/heavier car, im more or less happy with sacrifices to peak power/power range so long as torque is 'streetable' or a more or less fun/streetable type tune. To me it mostly comes down to end user preference, be it drag strip/auto/rear gears, or manual owners that are tuning more for the rpm/torque range they expect to maximize their fun in.
@mb-fs1yo Жыл бұрын
Wondering if you can run E85 with the Holley
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji Жыл бұрын
That's pulling alot of rpm fine if was mine i probably stay at 6800 protect my investment, but that was awesome
@mattmcdaniel62196 ай бұрын
Wish now I'd have gone with Holley instead of Fitech...😢 Sick build! 🤘
@JuanFlores-gy5ze Жыл бұрын
Where can I get the P/Ns for the entire assembly. Now that I'm retired I'd love to do a build like this. You guys rock.
@horspla2000 Жыл бұрын
They are all in the description of the video
@MatthewRulla11 күн бұрын
I'm working on a street / tow 700 hp build for my 2001 GMC 496ci in my crew cab.
@irench Жыл бұрын
A dyno graph of lower rpm would prove more how it would be drivable unless the converter is so loose it doesn't flash until 4k which is a ridiculous claim of streetable. Torque moves you. HP is just a mathematical product of torque. As for gears making up for lack of power in low rpm. NO, gears have a usable band. You're not going to enjoy a 4.56 or 5.13 gear on the street. A hard proven fact of John Lingenfelter was that more transmission gears is an effective way to keep the engine in its sweet spot under the curve. that is all together different than final ratio. Build the engine to purpose is what John introduced and won with. No engine with a usable power that doesn't begin until 4000 belongs on the street. Its fuel efficiency and drivability will be horrendous.
@justinballard7242 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Those heads are way too big cam is way to big and intake is way too big. Put an afr 290 head on it with a cam in the 240@.050 around .600 lift and an Rpm air gap intake shift peak power to 6 k and peak torque in the 4 k rpm range
@taylorsrus9543 Жыл бұрын
@@justinballard7242 Maybe for a motorhome. 😂This is a pretty mild build for a performance motor.
@justinballard7242 Жыл бұрын
@@taylorsrus9543 that torque is weak. Peak torque at 5k and peak HP at 7200 is not a good street engine no matter what the internet tells you. That engine will be terrible as a street engine. The top end I proposed would be much more useable on the street. Way more torque which will move a heavy street car more efficiently
@taylorsrus9543 Жыл бұрын
@@justinballard7242 the street is a different place these days. Without a power adder it's hard to keep up. This wouldn't keep up with the street cars around me, the combo you described would be laughable. Maybe with like a 400hp nitrous kit.
@stupidbird4U Жыл бұрын
Disagree the thing is still making well over 300hp at just over 3000rpm.
@4406bbldb Жыл бұрын
I just can’t help it but when I here “lb ft “ of torque I think of Fred Flintstone driving to to work in the morning.
@robinmiller986 Жыл бұрын
You can also mix it between 87 and 93 octane they'll give it 100% like racing fuel
@commentsedited Жыл бұрын
There is no replacement for displacement..
@bbarrett300 Жыл бұрын
As fun as this is, particularly as a BBC owner, the money for 100+ HP is just ridiculous! Don't mean to be the 'poor rodder' to rain on all's parade but I'll take my low buck, carbureted 650 HP / 630 TQ 496 all day long.
@teto6912 Жыл бұрын
Imagine putting this monster in 1 Tone car 🥶
@LordMustangGT93 Жыл бұрын
all the reason you labeled are the reasons people dont run solid lifters. So it IS true. 10 minutes to lash but how much time do you spend getting to them and putting stuff back on. No one on a weekend warrior want to ajust lash. Second, hyd rollers are capible of 7k rpm.
@Guns_N_Gears Жыл бұрын
More!!!!!!! ❤ it
@kenautotech4338 Жыл бұрын
I may be wrog but is that waterpump turning in the correct direction with that belt routing?
@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын
I hope ya'll build a 7000 rpm Gen III hemi sometime.
@JSFGuy Жыл бұрын
Check it out right here.
@DadbrosGarage Жыл бұрын
I want to get the mid mount accessory drive for my 454
@MMCGRACING Жыл бұрын
I’m have a similar setup but in need of a camshaft, what is the part number for the soild roller from comp I don’t see it in the description? Only difference is I’m running the dart 360 heads