Big News in Academic Publishing!

Big Journal reacts to the latest open access news (link below)
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[@DGlaucomflecken]

See link to an article about this in video description. This is great news for everybody but big publishers. I fully expect Elsevier and the gang to find other ways to extract enormous wealth that they don’t deserve

[@anthonyquagliano8717]

They can try, but from the sounds of it it might be difficult

[@alimanski7941]

I hope it doesn't mean the chances of publicly funded research to be accepted are lowered.

[@toad6417]

@@alimanski7941 doubt it, that's the lion's share of grant funding

[@rinsgray]

well, go-go sci-hub-gadget!

[@uog293]

Wait can you give us a link to the policy or law ?

[@hiltonian_1260]

You don’t make real money by accomplishing things. You make the big bucks by getting in the way of people who are trying to accomplish things.

[@smoek9458]

@its Time no, no its not

[@pedropimenta896]

Ok now I understand the skit

[@teaganread6835]

... you're right. Never thought of it that way.

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

Very true. Now if you’d like a certification stating that you are able to formally offer that opinion, I’d be happy to oblige. The online commentator certification course is a steal at $2500. We’re working with Google to ensure only certified comments can be seen in the comment feed going forward.

[@CABOOSEBOB]

That’s capitalism for you

[@pamcunningham9608]

"It'll make United Healthcare blush!" Nope, you can only blush if you have shame.

[@couldntthingofone269]

They'll be ashamed they didn't do it first.

[@leighpowley8410]

The inherent problem with corporations: no one (i e., person) is accountable, their mandate requires that they act only in the interest of shareholders. They're authentically 'only in it for the money' 😑

[@supenskylesko]

Very well said!!! 🙂❤️

[@Clancywiggum97]

And a heart

[@leadpaintchips9461]

It'll make them blush because they get excited seeing it.

[@zarasamuels9377]

'Our entire business model is, getting taxpayers to pay for things, they've already payed for' too much sad truth

[@thomasmitchell4128]

And politicians profited off of letting them get away with this which we funded for as tax payers. Shame the world we live in, in the United States, I mean.

[@privacyvalued4134]

One can only hope that this is the start. PACER is probably the most egregious example of this - it costs 10 cents per page to access anything happening in the legal system. But plenty of government entities charge absurd fees to access puny amounts of data stored in their databases.

[@sps3r654]

Next stop - GPS.

[@vaylonkenadell]

See also: electric grid, broadband Internet, medication...

[@arillusine]

As a scientist in academia, I’ve never empathized as strongly with a character as I just did with Tristopher. Love your content as always Doc!

[@legendlegend1621]

Thank you so much for talking about this, as a medical student I got shocked when I found out I had to pay to read medical research articles funded by the government, so wrong on so many levels

[@Nightraven26]

You can contact the authors of the study, most of the time they'll be happy to send you a copy of their study for free. Alternatively, there are websites you can find which host most scientific studies in pdf forms where you can download them for free.

[@TheFirebird123456]

@@Nightraven26 that takes time and you at the mercy of the authors.

[@ChristianRumi]

behold the wonders of ~sci hub~

[@Mondprinzessin111]

Finally a step in the right direction. As a science student, how was I supposed to look up info I needed for an assignment? Even if I paid for the article doesnt mean it contains what I need because I could only read the kind of vage small abstract, so the money would go straight out the window. Most annoying sh!t when it comes to research

[@ultru3525]

As a student, don't you get automatic free access to most journals by connecting to the campus Wi-Fi?

[@davidluna7]

Your school doesn't have the paid library?

[@Mondprinzessin111]

@@ultru3525 Well, I get access to some but only if the university has a contract with them. I still stumble across far too many papers that could have or do have exactly what I need, but I still cant read them. And also sometimes the login wouldnt work although my professors claimed it should

[@kimharris8903]

Also, it's difficult for people with chronic diseases to do actual research on their conditions and treatments.

[@bryankong4412]

There are ways to gain access to journal if… your willing to do it…

[@scorpioftw]

I just had the most amazing experience yesterday. I went to the opthamoligist for the first time. It was sooooo similar to your videos that I could barely hold a laugh. The opthamologist was the most happy and kind doctor I have ever met and he was explaining everything with the most bizzare and specific eye related terms. And his scribe somehow managed to write everything down at light speed and didnt say a word in the whole appointment.

[@cardiacdrummer5443]

“The journal giant explains why ethical standards will never slow him down.” Great job on the mock cover. America is trying to move a bit in the right direction but so much needs to change for the public to get the proper care they need without going broke.

[@centromedicopontevedra]

"Our profit margins could go as low as Google". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@ceciliavernes9097]

We just heard about the new policy last week from the "mothership", the NLM. This will be another adjustment like the one that was started when the NIH set up the rule requiring articles published stemming from NIH research funding to be made available in full text in PubMed Central (PMC).

[@Nikki-lodeon]

@whaaa t it's air fryer potato wedges. It's explaining how to make potato wedges.

[@pvtbuddie]

@@Nikki-lodeon : Report it as spam. It's not obvious, so it will probably take a few reports to get rid of them.

[@WigglyTuffStuff]

I love that website.

[@pkaragiannodimas]

I wonder who will be in the next monthly issue of middlemen monthly

[@centromedicopontevedra]

Some United Healthcare dude, I presume. 🤣

[@silkyz68]

Jonathan

[@chanticleer0714]

@@silkyz68 how dare you! Jonathan isn't a middleman! He's an essential appendage attached to the opthalmologist!

[@heatherkoeppen7876]

Not sure, but one of the taglines will probably be something like: EXLUSIVE! 25 new ways to deny lifesaving treatments!

[@pauldegregorio6432]

I buy it for the articles but the centerfold is a nice bonus.

[@anomalily]

Next month on the cover of middleman monthly: pharmacy benefit managers.

[@nancylindsay4255]

And those they outsource to. Oh, yes -- that's a real thing.

[@NatashaVolanti]

My uni has only a select few number of journals it pays for, for students to access. One of my lecturers published in a journal that the uni doesn’t pay for. She doesn’t have access to that paper anymore. She said she’s lucky to have a copy of it on her computer before she finalised the publication because if she didn’t, there would be no way to access that journal without paying for it A nice tip for google scholar paywalls: when you look up articles in google scholar some of them will have paywalls but if you look to the right of the websites, most articles will have a link for the pdf that is completely free. Articles that don’t have pdfs will definitely have paywalls. It’s a way to access paywalled articles that already have free pdfs available Also if your teacher doesn’t want you using Wikipedia because it isn’t peer reviewed or whatever but it has some information you need, scroll to the bottom for articles that were cited and sourced because they will most definitely be peer reviewed and credible

[@murraysolomon4924]

"Wrong on so many levels"

[@milesmartig5603]

@@murraysolomon4924 what works, works 😂

[@murraysolomon4924]

@@milesmartig5603 Unless you have free online access to journal articles thru a top tier medical school that can afford the institutional journal fees, nothing works but your credit card.

[@SoCalRegisteredNurse]

Yaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!!!! Edit: UHC won’t blush. The best you’ll get is a “hmmph” and a slow turn around with a side eye

[@31dknight]

Another great video from the doctor. Thanks

[@mrch33zit12]

I'm dying over middle man monthly!!

[@TheErikaGuy]

This is social commentary and resistance. Truly this is art in the 21st century. Love how you are bringing this all to light

[@LittleMissTotoro]

I am about to send in my first article for publishing and my jaw did drop when I saw the Open Access fee!

[@2-minutephysiatry506]

How much was it (just curious) ?

[@firefly-fez]

Congratulations, America!!!! Good to see some good news and positive change happening. I honestly don't know what the research publishing industry is like where I live, but this video makes me curious to learn more. I'm a big believer in healthcare reform. Also, Tristopher and Jimothy need to join forces

[@RafaelMonteiroMaia]

Oh, those poor, poor publishers. How are they supposed to make a living without leeching off of the hard work of researchers?

[@varunshetty6810]

Wow I had no idea. So glad to hear this! And thank you for consistently being the voice for good.

[@anomalily]

Next up on publicly funded research that taxpayers pay for twice: drugs patents that get extended for 39 years by changing minor design details of the syringe or pill!

[@MrsGarks]

Loved how you touched on the possible drawbacks for such a decision. Nothing goes down without a fight.

[@nicholashardy8863]

Yeah suspiciously our textbooks this semester are worth more and the online testing client that we are required to have is like 200 dollars more than it used to be

[@jessicazaytsoff1494]

I do hope this happens to more publishers! McGraw-Hill? Pearson? I'm looking at you and your three new editions but the only thing changed is the cover. Sorry, I work in a bookstore.

[@MC-mk9wj]

I don’t pay for academic papers, Libgen has been an amazing source for me. Incredible that I have to pay for material my institution created. Highly recommend library genesis to all.

[@rickmook9422]

Scihub also had a great database full of academic papers for free. You didn’t hear this from me btw

[@a.z.fellco.1704]

Is it legal? Nope. Is it extremely convenient? Yes.

[@Leonidas1901]

Very well done.

[@DGlaucomflecken]

Thank you. Couldn't have done it without Tristopher

[@OhWell0]

Hooray! So American science has been lagging, this is one step towards closing the gap!

[@vaclavnemec9053]

Greed is neverending. As always, hillarious and right on point. You are genius! :-D Keep on, you are doing great job!

[@nathanhurley8842]

The names you come up with are amazing sir

[@ssjess2504]

While my favorite videos are any with Jonathan in them, I do appreciate the weirdly named jimothy and tristopher 🤣

[@erikak8187]

Omg I’m so obsessed with tristopher and jimothy..

[@nancylindsay4255]

Such good men. It must break their hearts every day that they can make so little change from within. They need to be in better jobs. Tonight at least they can drink from the cup of righteous victory.

[@jimbelter2]

It's about time the government did something smart for once. These big publishing companies shouldn't be charging such exorbitant fees to publish something that benefits many in the medical community. These types of publications should be non-profit while other books they publish can be for profit. There needs to be a delineation between the two types of publications

[@nancylindsay4255]

I think many of us not in the medical field frequently (try to) go to the published research, also -- for information about what ails us or loved ones. And, yes, to take information to our doctors.

[@spidrawebster]

MERCH ALERT: That Middleman Monthly cover needs to be a mug and a t-shirt.

[@cdbitesky]

Doesn't start until 2024 and journals are attempting to block in congress. Hopefully it comes through and we can finally shift to open-science

[@nancylindsay4255]

Damn! Should be immediately!

[@trailrider7046]

His link says it starts at the end of 2025. And people are free to start sooner.

[@violetskies14]

Awww 🥺

[@violetskies14]

I was so exited

[@trueheartwork]

I love your skits but what really gets me going is how you expose the insanity of the healthcare industry as well as the academic publishing and higher education system. You rock Dr!

[@kakarot82]

I'm actually mad I can only drop one like. Deserves at least two solely for there not be a single erroneous use of literally.

[@jhope3225]

Yaaaayy! Those cost use to drive me bonkers when I needed the most recent articles!! Thanks for the transparency!!

[@Susan_K]

Kinda want to add Tristopher and Jonathan to my favourite names list for sons. Jonathan’s first word would just be a silent nod.

[@nancylindsay4255]

How about Tristophan? No, wait; isn't that the name of a drug?

[@Susan_K]

@@nancylindsay4255 no idea. I’d have to page pharmacy bro. 😂

[@trailrider7046]

What about Jimothy?

[@Alex-op4ty]

YUP! Got an article rejected by a journal. Was recommended to submit to one of their lower tier journals which is open access. Asking $3000 if it gets published 😑

[@2-minutephysiatry506]

😣

[@khavigoback]

I knew as soon as I saw that decision come down that we would get a video about it from you, and I was not disappointed. 👍👍

[@freddie_b13]

Amazing video as always!

[@alexdomino7505]

Dude you are so funny! I Light up a blunt and watch your videos all the time. I could do it for hours. Keep them coming Doc!!!

[@dianesheridan3689]

"You named the softball team "The Gatekeepers"" Priceless!!

[@grmpEqweer]

Well-skewered. 😁

[@wbf619]

Congrats on reaching 700k subs Dr. G! 1 mil in no time!

[@shinozsnow]

This makes me so happy!

[@ferelith-NZ]

Profit margins as low as Google? How will you buy your newest yacht and Lamborghini? 😱

[@crazydoc0812]

Easy. Just go into Private Equity.

[@ichiroakuma7311]

The only thing that will kill off the dinosar journals is if academics themselves stop judging candidates (for hiring or tenure) by where their papers are published.

[@hi5dude2]

And the only way to do that is to take power away from the people who already sit at the top and benefit from that system. Which seems impossible to do, even though the only power that these people have is the power that other people believe that they have.

[@hi5dude2]

I think you really got to start with addressing where that bias actually comes from, which is the pointless elitism of pretending that some colleges/academic institutions are better than others. In reality it's the same education in most places, the only difference is really the opportunities that are afforded, but even then such opportunities are usually just available to the most connected/lucky/wealthiest students. Try to go to an ivy league on a full scholarship like me, you will be allowed there if you are lucky enough to be basically randomly chosen as a charity case but you will have to work off your "debt" to the school for such a privilege through work study/other such programs, and so how can you even afford to get a non-paying undergraduate research position? Oh, by taking massive debt. Which works out... If you end up making a lot of money or have family money to fall back on.

[@Flow-no4kq]

FACTS!!

[@nitroadshadow4667]

HELL YEA NOW I DONT HAVE TO USE SCI HUB AS MUCH AS I DID (for those who don't know sci hub is a database of of scientific articles free for everyone to use they have been blocked by most isp's but you can get around that by looking them up on tor).

[@nancylindsay4255]

Glad to learn here about Sci Hub and Tor. Thank you, Glauc Flock!. You rock!

[@cass_p]

But journals have to charge for research - otherwise how would they pay the authors of all those articles? Oh wait...

[@gdan58]

Not to mention all the bucks I've been raking in over the years as a reviewer. Oh, wait...

[@Queezbo]

PREACH IT!!!!! Down with gatekeeping. Up with giving me access to the research I already paid for with my taxes.

[@Alex-fc8xn]

Oh hell yes! Great news!

[@fallencloud2946]

This breaks my heart as a molecular biotechnology student. So much work ripped to shredds...

[@ShiroKage009]

This is one of the best news actually, after SciHub.

[@Ice.muffin]

Ikr, if there's one thing deserving of the title "life-saving" SciHub it is 👀!!!

[@Dana.1]

You are incredibly clever! This is awesome

[@tskmaster3837]

Smiling over a wad of twenties. That's just so Middle.

[@sharvo6]

Fight the good fight Tristopher!

[@JackDespero]

Meanwhile, research which has received money from the EU MUST be published in an open access journal. And it hasn't been the end of the world, people at Elsevier are not jumping off rooftops, etc.

[@tylermuzzy1527]

How difficult would it be to start an open access website that will also pay researchers? It would involve running on ads/donations so that may turn some people away, but websites with enough traffic and interest may be able to make do. Any money earned from ads or donations would go towards paying a staff to maintain the website and future research. Ideally the owner of the website/journal would take little to no money for themselves. At most a livable salary income (assuming all staff otherwise are also making that). Is this even possible? Can a website make enough money to support this through just ads and donations? I feel it may be too ambitious.

[@NYKevin100]

IMHO you don't even need the ads. Any serious university should have a library, and any serious university library should have all of the expertise and resources necessary to conduct peer reviews, host a few PDFs, and make the information accessible to researchers and/or the public. There is literally no reason for journals to exist other than inertia.

[@torg2126]

I think a Russian lady did something like that, by hacking into a journals archives and publishing it online for free.

[@nurainiarsad7395]

@@NYKevin100 If I’m not mistaken originally journals were organised by their respective disciplines in a manner not too different from that. It’s just a bunch of people from the same field who publish findings that their community has peer reviewed as sound so that everyone can know about it. It should have been among the least capitalistic setup ever.

[@Threnody248]

Plus, publishers can set up a recurring physical journal (like they used to) and charge subscription fees for people who want a curated selection sent to them in the mail. Sure, you can still read the articles and papers for free online, but they’d still probably do okay. Maybe include interviews, criticisms, refutations and rebuttals in the physical copy as well, articles that you couldn’t get online. Even include a “most cited of the month” paper.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

There are free services that already exist that just "pirate" the research and rehost it. The core problem though is that the big journals have agreements in place with the big publishers - it's nearly impossible to launch a new journal with even a minute fraction of the reach of something like Nature or the Lancet, and it's very difficult to get your research circulated if it's in a novel, less reputable journal, particularly with the bad reputation open access picked up from loads of scam journals that popped up to charge open access fees from unsuspecting academics.

[@supenskylesko]

Very well said!!! Preach it!!! 🙂❤️

[@DeeWeber]

Thank you

[@SJR275]

So... This is amazing news if I've interpreted it correctly? I mean the rest of the world is dying by at least we have this

[@homerman76]

Well to put it in a way connected to what you brought up, anything published by government labs (including medical research,) should be a lot easier to access, which in turn accelerates the research process by removing some of the gatekeeping and making it easier to discover things that could solve other issues faced by people globally.

[@MohammadHossainMD]

I had chills at the end. from real terror

[@DrSAMsAnatomyClasses]

True 👍

[@caz_tech2229]

I'm too invested in this academic/clinical universe 🤣

[@msshellm8154]

Ok, that Mr Middleman was officially menacing! 😱

[@oakenshadow6763]

I love this.

[@Whoeverthatis-g5t]

I always find unbelievable how researchers have to *pay* to publish stuff (as if independent researchers didn't have enough financial troubles already), and then the public also has to PAY to read that stuff.

[@chinchillamdgamer]

Sci-fi gives the public access to more academic research. Thanks to that lady who created that website!!

[@2-minutephysiatry506]

Very true ! It's a shame that journals can even think of making researchers pay to get their work published. The journals are priced insanely high as well :-(

[@shawnmercercrain9727]

Truth!!!

[@NobodyListensToCasandra]

I love your content- absolutely awesome

[@biologicalhunter520]

You mean all the work I've been doing with an endangered species is free to read now??? Yes! Finally I can read the papers that I actually contributed to!

[@rmholt1]

Has anyone else noticed that sending a “postcard” to the contact author for a reprint has totally failed or is it just me? Do I have bad e-breath? Anyway this is terrific.

[@Ice.muffin]

Bad e-breath, I'm gonna have to indefinitely borrow that one😂🤣

[@chanticleer0714]

Always look up the author online. Many have a university they are connected with and you can find them through there. I found one prof who was *delighted* to meet with me and talk about his research and show some unpublished work that also helped me a ton with my work!

[@jodders619]

I got a response to one of those! The author sent me their full article. It was a pretty fascinating read that really dealt with the themes in my essay. The response arrived two days after the essay deadline. I'd actually submitted before the due date as well!

[@ebunni5862]

THIS IS SO EXCITING

[@MichaelThomas-te1jd]

I love this one so much

[@Reticulosis]

First thing I did after seeing this was search for papers related to David Bennetts xenotransplantations of the GAL-KO porcine heart.

[@MJ-98]

Tristopher? What happened to Jimothy?!

[@kaitlyncocuzzo607]

Jimothy works for health insurance.

[@dorothea_walland]

Middleman Monthly 🤣 omg epic.

[@egalitarian-rex]

Greed: Making the world go round since before we became bipedal.

[@medicalcollegekol]

Ohhh the ending!! 😍😍😍 ‘united healthcare blush’!!

[@bullydungeon9631]

I want to imagine you helped, keep up the good fight solidarity forever

[@AmruteshPuranik]

This on spot!

[@SBRS47]

Dark Brandon can't be stopped

[@Diana-wt4ny]

Great News! Now us poor medical students can actually read and use these articles when this goes into effect.

[@Liloldliz]

thanks im glad u made this!! research publication is a scam and our current economic system requires significant reforms at the very least

[@chavesa5]

The Middleman Monthly cover is just that extra touch that elevates these

[@ThatGuy53297]

There's always another way to milk money, it's just a minor inconvenience to tweak the method on their end. They could make a tier system for institutions research to be better advertised on their platform, otherwise it "might be hard to find" your journal under all the others.

[@anonanon9380]

Joke’s on them! In order to charge more for their extra services, they would first need to provide any extra services - any at all - that are worth a single penny. Literally the only reason I submit to journals is the peer review process and the resulting stamp of approval saying “this paper is correct and was good enough to get into journal xyz”. Everything else is either a pointless extravagance or can be done via arXiv/medRxiv.

[@jacobdavis3225]

This is amazing news...when I read the article all I could see in my head was the Biden "I did that" sticker lol

[@supercellodude]

Bear with me: what if scientists seeded torrents of their own research?

[@SEKCobra]

I wish someone would force all standards to be open to the public.

[@ccl1195]

Looove this so much :D

[@Unmannedair]

Hahaha, that last bit about United healthcare made me laugh while I was drinking my coffee. I now have coffee scented jeans.

[@keym3955]

Middle men across the board gotta go, yay for the people! Also, 100% agree, UHC does suck.

[@Sadin15]

Should have been done decades ago. It always seemed unfair that taxpayers foot the bill but then there's a paywall.

[@markbajek2541]

I nearly spit out my coffee when you panned to middle man monthly

[@hannahfanning9585]

Oh my gosh this is such great news

[@vtheb1299]

That awkward moment when I get the news in the field from a YT comedy video 😅. And when it takes me time to realize that news is real and not a joke!