Big Nik's Christian Podcast Is An Abomination

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Big Nik has a new podcast with a bunch of Christian Content Creators, and it is poo poo not good!
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[@pietrofattorello]

"if you're gonna hang out with women why not just hang out with men?" as a gay man... this is definitely fruity

[@MachinaGirlRobots]

LOLOL

[@wonderbookk]

True 💪

[@Ruosteinenknight]

They're THIS close to self-discovery. Of course that self-discovery would break their brain....

[@trashketchup1497]

Shhhh they’re super straight...they said it sooo many times..they’re still trying to convince themselves as well as convince us...but they’re like totally straight..duh!

[@drattyg8099]

Open up and suckle down on that gay juice, Marty!

[@samar4192]

the podcasts name should be “women: explained by 5 guys who clearly don’t know a thing about them or have an ounce of respect for them”

[@WaffleBat]

Today on "Women: Do They Exist?" we'll be making up theoretical women in our heads and disagreeing with them.

[@miciahburrell8091]

and are extremely insecure.

[@Awesomeness785]

The chadcast

[@fhdujeme2622]

@@Awesomeness785 more like trashcast

[@LeoLCDT]

Well if you watch a show about bear or chimps at National Geographic, the narration is spoken by a human instead of a chimps.

[@cashwalk7253]

Guys: “You can’t be in a platonic relationship with women.” Jesus: *was in platonic relationships with multiple women*

[@Lucciii32]

Source: Trust me bro

[@doorbel9084]

@@Lucciii32 Mary Magdalene?

[@r.616]

Maybe even more...

[@r.616]

@@doorbel9084 nah he was just babgin her

[@WiseSageBum]

Yup One of them was even a prostitute... Who he was purely a spiritual teacher to... Told men to pluck out their own eyes if they felt the desire to sin when they were turned on by a woman

[@Bibliosection]

"Women should treat their husbands like Jesus" Sure, I'll consider that when my husband washes my feet, turns water into wine, walks on water, and revives after death.

[@WiseSageBum]

That last one just sounds like life insurance fraud

[@d.olluwu]

@@WiseSageBum HAHAHAHA

[@moniquewrites9046]

I am a Christian and I actually read the scriptures you’re referring to and you hit the nail and pinned the tail on the donkey. You understand the Bible better than some Christian men out there! A man should be willing to sacrifice his life for his wife. That’s the whole premise of marriage in the Christian context.

[@onemore4567]

@@WiseSageBum wouldn't it be great tho? Hubby and I'd be so rich

[@cevcena6692]

@@moniquewrites9046 Not really the point of the comment but sure

[@PonyExpresso1]

The way they talk about friendships with women just kinda proves they don’t see women as equal human beings, it’s honestly disturbing :(

[@addisoncundiff8293]

Fr the fact that I have a pussy shouldn’t define whether or whether not I’m respected, respect should be mutual and if a guy doesn’t respect me I will not be respecting him

[@schuckit5300]

So true!!!

[@trashketchup1497]

FeMaLeS are only there for one thing..sex. Obviously. Idk about you but I for sure don’t have a personality or feelings or goals or anything...o solely exist for my husband to use my body as his very own sex doll...duh 🙄

[@addisoncundiff8293]

@@trashketchup1497 Fr Fr and we don’t have hearts either we are still just sex dolls who can’t be friends with married men might I add

[@taylorfawn2012]

@@addisoncundiff8293 and women just can’t not have feelings for these guys. because obviously if we are trying to have a friendship with anyone it’s with the ulterior motive of entering a long term romantic relationship with them. instead of idk just want to have friends. definitely not lol

[@hthazee]

just the fact nik is getting so subtly disrespected on his OWN podcast is so funny omfg

[@somedude172]

youd think that would make him realize how women feel in a room full of men like that, but his head is too far up his own ass. its so embarrassing...

[@nickisnotgreen]

LMAOO

[@bsm102993]

fr fr which one is nick

[@littleleakyleakythere]

@@bsm102993 the tiny short one

[@soup-wr3tr]

@@bsm102993 the guy in the middle on the couch

[@gigggiii]

Being heterosexual seems so stressful. This is the dating pool that straight women have to pick from?! 😦

[@casquefer]

No. The pool is much bigger than that. Fortunately.

[@alexsmith6322]

For me I have a different reaction. “Ohhhhh THIS is why it’s so easy for me? Because I treat people like equal human beings?”

[@hasna2012]

Nah there's much better men, fortunately :D (seriously an example could be one topic and his friendgroup)

[@kittyqueentengu5327]

Ikr, so glad I don't need to enter the dumpster fire that is the dating world

[@AllHailTheKang]

As “one of the good ones,” (I feel weird using that statement) I’ve gotta say, I’m sorry and embarrassed and sorry that all straight women have to go through this

[@avalewis8156]

As a bi woman I think it’s HILARIOUS when men say you shouldnt be friends with the opposite sex, like if we’re going by logic I couldn’t be friends with anyone

[@theonewhosthere]

@@incognita1797wtf

[@aubreyplazasuncle]

@@theonewhosthere he said men are only sexually and romantically attracted to walking fleshlights, not women with personalities or a sense of humour. translation: men are vapid scum

[@M2ofEMMM]

The sad thing is that this is exactly why so many straight people don't trust us. They don't see it as possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to, so they perceive us bi people as sex-crazed and dyed in the wool cheaters.

[@alyssa7867]

For bisexuals, there is only prey.

[@Memu_]

​@@incognita1797 You are out of your mind if you genuinely believe this.

[@kayleighryan6583]

“platonic friendship” that’s literally just the definition of friendship 😭 these men need to read literally any book

[@lt8753]

Platonic is already intended in friendship.

[@kayleighryan6583]

@@lt8753 I know that's what I said

[@tyleroberg9986]

Like what do they do when a woman tries to talk to them who isn’t their girlfriend? Run away?

[@essr4580]

Eh friends with benefits is a thing so not necessarily a completely useless distinction

[@kayleighryan6583]

@@essr4580 if you're friends with benefits you're not really "friends"

[@emmaa1882]

Just say women should cover their drink around you and go

[@wepeelwraps]

br u h💀💀💀

[@wearewhole]

excellent comment

[@myaco6430]

Honestly!!!

[@sanjanaphilips9277]

Thats the vibe I get from them

[@notaperson9831]

d e c e a s e d

[@megoliver9761]

what makes me chuckle is how they "don't wanna pursue friendships with women for the sake of their future wives" but how they gonna get wives if they're avoiding all female contact hahahaha

[@bloblovlalalulu3422]

The irony, but it's good they destined that fate upon themselves.

[@megoliver9761]

@@bloblovlalalulu3422 definitely a blessing

[@TheChrislewis1989]

True true fr that's a really good point lmfao 😂

[@hannah-6080]

That's exactly it they don't see women as friends or even as people, they see women as vending machines for intimacy

[@nyxlocke1229]

sometimes, natural selection truly is a beautiful thing

[@bee8076]

I went to Catholic school with John Michael in 8th grade. He was pretty much an arrogant bully. Below is what I remember of him: He made fun of the guys who liked Lord of the Rings. Once, he railed into them because he found it stupid that they were saying aloud the title abbreviation, LotR, as “LO-DER”. (His struggle to grasp acronyms goes way back. If he had actually watched or read LotR, he wouldn’t need to lament “lack of close male friendships in media”.) His looks made him popular with the girls. Our paths crossed sometimes as I was constantly on mission to blend in with all the other girls, in the hopes that being normal would make me less of a target for bullying. On one occasion, I was lucky enough to sit at the edge of the popular girls’ table. Johnathan spoke in a very sexually explicit way to and about the girls. He recounted an incident in which he had seen one of the girls present getting out of the shower, and that he had seen her breasts. He teased her about their small size, and talked about feeling them up. Having come from a sheltered environment, I remember feeling so shocked by his gross behavior. Another time, I was huddled around a year book in a group of girls with Johnathan. He started ridiculing the photos of people he believed to be ugly losers. Eventually, he pointed to my picture and made a comment about my supposed ugliness- Dead silence. No one laughed. I remember thinking, “He really doesn’t realize I’m standing right here, right in front of him.” The lack of response from the other girls tipped him off to my presence, so he fumbled about and tried to act like that’s not what he meant. At the time, it really hurt, but in hindsight, it’s pretty funny to have witnessed his lack of situational awareness cause him some mild embarrassment. I like to think that people improve with time, but it’s likely that he’s more or less the same as he was 15+ years ago, albeit now with a public persona that presents as squeaky-clean & Christian. This man really do be 30 years old acting like he’s 13. :/

[@tpwrm3458]

anyone can be saved

[@nyxlocke1229]

I am so sorry you had to deal with him when you were younger, but thank you for sharing! What a disturbingly sexist individual.

[@many244]

"i dont like latinas, just blondes" blonde latinas: *confused noises*

[@vicmonik]

@@kingkris6877 do you know who this reminds me of? an austrian guy who made a disaster in germany back in the 40s ☠

[@vicmonik]

@@kingkris6877 exactly

[@Ummanumayea]

Oh please I wish the things men are saying they don’t like about women actually kept them away from these women. Men are easy af and they don’t want to admit it, that in the end women hold power over them with their bodies

[@c.carter3654]

He means he doesn’t like Latinas just blonde haired blues eye white women. Confusion cleared

[@vicmonik]

@@c.carter3654 i mean... latinas can also be like this, but okay. confusion cleared

[@Snarl_Marx]

"Sometimes she's your secretary." And sometimes she's just, like, your coworker. Or, god forbid, your boss. Ffs

[@EF-kk3vh]

RIGHT LIKE WTF WAS THAT

[@bayonetababe9697]

People don’t even use that term anymore it’s like stewardess

[@bump0005]

women??? Being bosses??? And not making my sandwich and cleaning my nasty ass dishes?? Bruh Satan has gone too fucking far 🤬🤬

[@margotlemaire5677]

@@bump0005 😂😂😂

[@bayonetababe9697]

@@Cloverchase Yeah it is. It just replaced stewardess and now it’s flight attendant. Yeah I think people say personal assistant or sometimes receptionist but not secretary. It’s interesting how names for things change but sometimes it’s for the best.

[@sophieg.4625]

as a lesbian, hearing them talking about friendships with women is cracking me up

[@cam128]

as a young christian i find it sad (and a bit hilarious) that some people still have this messed up idea of what being christian is all about it breaks my heart just seeing them use religion as an excuse for misogyny, ignorance and overall being toxic af and hateful, and i hate when people assume im that narrow minded too just because of my faith :/

[@comraderumi]

Same but I come from a Muslim family

[@Hanatatami]

How they keep saying "platonic friendships"- Brother that's just a friendship

[@blueace1000]

It’s like saying romantic dating

[@DeathnoteBB]

It implies they have erotic friendships

[@alicehargest]

Lmao I heard this in sixteenleos voice

[@barokemoman3307]

Ah yes the floor is made of floor

[@SN-vn6wb]

@@DeathnoteBB 😏

[@CrystalJupiter]

“Emotional sex” is so funny because it means these guys are so against being close to women for things other than sex that they think any kind of closeness to a woman is inherently sexual.

[@Breonna.Denise__2222]

They can just get it from men

[@bluepuppy7]

lol they prob are referring to a literal crush but have no point of reference bc of no life experience ugh it’s so sad

[@werm3169]

This is an unfortunately very prevalent attitude, explicitly and implicitly (the former being most present in fundamentalists, the latter in non-fundamentalists, most typically) within Christianity.

[@sickowawawa4014]

@Babba Yaaga muslims as well !! i kinda stop going to a few mosques in my city bc the men or even their wives's or children look at me in disgust bc im not wearing a hijab i always wear muslimah clotes and i still feel undomfortable honestly, i ask this to my friend and he said "you better not look something that might give you lust" like... tf ? you got horny from looking at womens hair or what ? yeah i cut all ties with my friend shortly after that lol

[@mangarox134]

@Babba Yaaga yup they called it purpling in my ministry smh

[@reaganwiedenfeld9846]

6:40 “if a woman felt that it’s offensive then it’s offensive doesn’t matter if you were contending it or not it doesn’t matter” proves that none of these men paid any attention to their work place sexual harassment training.

[@jaguarluv13]

They’re influencers, they probably have never been in a workplace with an HR department

[@Outtacontextouttatime]

I would not feel safe by myself with any of these dudes. And this is coming from a Christian woman….

[@FloppityFlopFlop777]

Your God-given intuition serves you well. None of these dudes are followers of Christ because their message is the opposite of His. They're dehumanizing and rejecting loving relationships with women; Christ humanized, uplifted, talked to, accepted, and redeemed women. The difference is like night and day.

[@beanndog]

@@FloppityFlopFlop777 I disagree. I don't see how Christianity is not mired in sexism, when we are expected to submit to our husbands as we submit to GOD. Scripture has very specific teachings that a woman's natural body and menstruation makes her impure, that she must hide herself to be cleansed and not be touched for a week after. Eve was famously made from a rib of Adam (weird since in real life men come from a woman's body) after his first mate Lilith didn't submit to him. The story of Eve and the serpent teaches that the pain of childbirth is the fault of a woman. None of this reads as respectful, peaceful, or loving. "Love thy neighbor" falls kinda flat when there's so many unloving ways Christians are expected to treat their female members. Religion is wielded as a cudgel against women worldwide, for the simple fact of them being women. I do not deny that Christianity is responsible for good deeds, inspiration, and community across the world. But I also believe it's intellectually dishonest to say that Christianity serves women like it does men. How on earth can we expect text and teachings from 2000 years ago to NOT be intrinsically tied to sexism?

[@daisy-ik5gl]

@bean dog LOL what? I’ve never heard of the teaching that a woman’s natural body and menstruation makes her impure-and I’m Christian and was raised in the church. The Bible teaches that God created BOTH man and woman in His own image (Genesis 1:27). Anything that opposes that statement is false teaching. Eve was created from Adam’s rib; Eve is Adam’s first and ONLY wife. The Christian Bible does not mention Lilith as Adam’s first wife or as a wife at all. In the Christian Bible, Lilith is only mentioned once (Isaiah 34:14) in reference to a night creature, night bird, or a screech owl. *Note: The name “Lilith” does not appear in every translation (e.g. KJV, NIV). The Lilith you’re thinking of is found in Jewish religion-Judaism-as well as folklore. Christianity and Judaism are two different religions, so please do not confuse or combine the two. According to the Bible, Eve gave birth to all humankind-except Adam-after her creation, which I believe is why we all come from a woman. The Bible teaches that pain in childbirth was multiplied (Genesis 3:16) because of Eve’s sin, implying that childbirth was never going to be completely painless. Likewise, Adam was also punished for his sin. Notice that God didn’t appear until after BOTH Eve and Adam sinned (see Genesis chapter 3, any version). Thus, we have this verse: “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23 ESV). Still, God loves women-why would He hate His own children? There are plenty of revered women in both the Old and New Testament: Ruth, Deborah, Rahab, Esther, the Virgin Mary, Mary Magdalene and many more. Women are valued in God’s Kingdom just as much as men. Men are told to “love their wives… husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself” (Ephesians 5:25-28 ESV). If you ever see a Christian treating women as a whole in an unloving way, then they aren’t a Christian; they just claim to be. On Judgement Day, God will say to these people, “I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness” (Matthew 7:23 ESV). You can trust that the Bible can be applied even 2000 years into the future-and counting-because the Bible says so. All Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16-17), therefore, it can be trusted. If you cannot accept this, you aren’t a Christian. Rejecting the Bible is the same as rejecting God (Hosea 9:17, Luke 10:16, John 12:48). It’s as simple as that. Hope this helps!

[@10oz10]

They talk about feminism like the only feminist content they consume is “crazy feminist owned compilation part 13”

[@spookysomeone]

it very well might be. it's sort of encouraged in groups like that to never engage with the "enemy".

[@teamjacob2388]

It literally is

[@DeezN00tz99]

Men like this hate feminists because it gives women the ability to say no instead of being property

[@10oz10]

@fright car what about feminism isnt needed? it aims to promote a healthy culture free from the negative expectations placed on the sexes? i think now more than ever its needed

[@spookysomeone]

@fright car abortion is literally being banned in texas what the fuck are you talking about edit: also in a lot of countries, trans people are being stripped of their rights. trans issues are inherently feminist issues because there are a) trans women and b) trans men/enbies with uteruses. sex workers barely have any rights and are treated as criminals. i realize i might come off as aggressive but that's because i feel like a stance like that needs to be challenged. until gender is literally gone from the world, feminism will be important, because feminism isn't just "women's rights to do stuff".

[@_letstartariot]

It’s ok, us women don’t want to have a platonic or romantic relationship with men like that anyway. He does not need to worry.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

Hell yes. Darwinism in action, folks. Ya love to see it lol

[@tabbyelder]

good god IMAGINE being “friends” with any man remotely similar to these guys. this is why i love ✨women✨

[@noelthenightowl7589]

@@tabbyelder This is why most of my guy friends are ✨trans and non-binary ✨

[@prod.kidmizu]

@@tabbyelder Ahh women are so perfecttt 😌😊✨✨✨💖

[@hellofromtheotherside4144]

@@tabbyelder I've heard some women saying the same shit as these guys. I just like people being men or women that don't think that way

[@withlovefalseortrue9839]

"Is there such thing as emotional sex?" I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST HEARD.

[@giannacantread]

I WAS BAFFLED 😭😭

[@bellbob7164]

"I'm not trying to have a platonic relationship with any woman" we know bro. We know

[@kennythecoconutcrab2778]

Men trying to say they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility without directly saying they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility for 20 minutes.

[@heyyitsjude]

But feminists are sexists!!! Not them!!

[@louichen1433]

20 minutes is awfully generous

[@GamerSisters]

Men like this don't last more than 5 minutes and they do not cuddle

[@idontwantahandlethough]

@@GamerSisters LOL facts

[@roycereeves5456]

@@heyyitsjude the same feminists trying to still complain about a wage gap and how society is oppressing women instead of actually educating themselves....sheeesh what is this 2021?

[@zulal9926]

"Same sex affection is not same sex attraction". " You can't be friends with a girl bc friendship is relationship without sex" Must be hella confusing to be them.

[@iswatbanjoko1245]

lmaooo so true

[@fanabot4048]

wow u sound very condenSENDing zülal (also i 100% agree, the amount of contradiction in 10 mins in that "podcast"😩)

[@TheGuardDuck]

It IS hella confusing. I grew up in this world, and I've come to understand that Christianity is both hypersexualized and sexually starved, since they are taught to avoid sexual temptation CONSTANTLY, yet are not taught to look at women in any way other than potential sexual temptation... It's a cruel irony, and insanity. And, IMO, explains why so many of them get busted for sexually deviant behavior. And this podcast is the blind leading the blind. Sad. 🤦‍♂️

[@FaerieElethia]

@@TheGuardDuck there’s a reason the vatican is sus. Religion in general makes s*x such a taboo. S*xual suppression often leads to hypers*xuality or straight up s*xual deviance/crime.

[@TheGuardDuck]

@@FaerieElethia yeah. Took me too long to realize, the more you fight it, the worse it gets.

[@funnyvideoguy3216]

Them saying "honor their husband's like they would honor Jesus" is just blatantly them having a God complex, and wanting to be treated that way, which is taking the lord's name in vein

[@yanaleksandrov]

These guys need to understand that mansplaining isn't just a dad explaining rocket science to his daughter, it's a dad explaining rocket science to his rocket scientist daughter because he thinks he knows it better than her

[@jessdanvers7263]

Their entire “dominant male” discussion feels like when tiny dogs feel the need to bark non-stop to seem intimidating.

[@quest8447]

When in reality a bigger dog would easily take them out lmao

[@RevanRA]

@@quest8447 Truth. These guys are ankle biters in comparison to the rest of...well, a lot of people who aren't insufferable douchebags who think they're better than others simply because they are men, have way TOO many followers, and as they put it "close to God and Jesus". They're just obnoxious and loud. The more clout we give them, the more they'll spew their nonsense out on the rest of us who are just simply trying to enjoy life and make it day by day without being judged simply because of the color of our skin, or gender and sex, who we choose to go out with or marry, or what friends we have, what food we eat, etc....the list is quite frankly exhausting and long to go through. This whole podcast gives me such a huge amount of second-hand embarrassment for just how dimwitted and willingly ignorant they are.... and *condescending*, and using their own religious beliefs to excuse being a misogynistic, transphobic/homophobic asshole. Sadly this isn't even new, it's just that these guys are pushing their platforms of hate around and people watch them and give them views/ratings/followers. Like a little dog who just took a dump on your living room carpet and looked at you excitedly and tried to show that they have done something good, when reality - it's just shit.

[@lindy9741]

@@RevanRA It's not a excuse to be that way , it's living the right way. Have you thought of it this way if Adam and Eve didn't sin you'd be a Christian. I don't want you to think I'm showing my "beliefs" on you. We're not hateful or judgmental we only want to help and do the right thing. These men still have a lot to learn coming from a woman😅 But I prefer Adam and Eve's mistake other wise Jesus didn't do His beautiful sacrifice.❤ Where do think you'll spend your after life? 🌟😁

[@RevanRA]

@@lindy9741 I'm not against religion or religious freedoms, I'm against when people DO in fact use their religion to be hateful. I wasn't painting all of Christianity with a broad brush here, I merely just want peoples' different beliefs be respected. I am a spiritual man at heart, but I do not go around saying, "Oh, you're possessed by the Devil for believing in something different than me." I have no doubt you are a nice person who respects boundaries, but these guys are the definition of cringe.

[@lindy9741]

@@RevanRA That is kind , cringing a little 😅😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@tricyclebell]

They're explaining the word 'mansplain' on their podcast called 'Mansplain' but clearly don't understand what 'mansplain' actually means. It's a mansplainception.

[@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494]

okay this comment definitely needs more likes

[@joshualai5359]

what is mansplain?

[@kyebearrr1687]

@@joshualai5359 they honestly explained it well, its just a man explaining something in a condescending way, im not sure if this refers to a man explaining something exclusively to women or if it includes other genders but examples include men trying to explain cars and stocks and all that

[@hannahm1937]

@@joshualai5359 They were right that it is when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending way, but it also usually involves a topic that the woman is already more well-versed in than said man. An example could be a cisgender man explaining how periods work to a cisgender woman. It undermines the woman's first-hand experience and implies that they know more than she does, despite the fact that it is her lived experience. Another one could be a man who has taken one coding class explaining how computer science works to a female who is a programmer by profession.

[@rheawelsh4142]

6:40 I appreciate the toddler level logic of "Well I didn't intend that so it could never happen", just the idea that he could fuck up without actively intending to do so isn't even a concept this man has ever considered

[@squids3820]

i would not want to be around those men. i feel unsafe just listening to them.

[@insertnamehere1983]

"Women should treat their Husbands like they would Jesus Christ" Pretty sure that's like, literal idol worship

[@bradyhayes9818]

No - Idol worship would be failing to recognize Christ as Lord, and putting another before him. Woman honoring their husbands as they would Christ still place Christ as the highest standard. And this SHOULD go both ways - the point is that all of us have a speck of divine inspiration within us, made in the image of God, and thus we should imbue other humans with a certain measure of dignity and respect. This is the literal foundation for the Western notion of human rights. Also consider Matthew 25:40 "And God will answer, "Whatever you did for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me" ' - this shows that because we're divinely inspired, good treatment of our fellow humans is akin to good treatment of God, and in fact a means of worshipping God. Also consider the parable of the good Samaritan - the idea that we should love our neighbor as ourselves, but also be the loving neighbor even if the other person doesn't deserve it, because we're respecting that the other person is a fellow creation of God. I imagine the verse these guys are drawing from is Ephesians 5:22 - "Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord". Submission doesn't necessarily mean blind, silent obedience - it means allowing and encouraging your husband to be the spiritual leader of the family unit. Because we've been so intent on erasing differences between sexes and replacing them with a spectrum of genders, we haven't questioned the functional roles these differences can play - An ideal family structure features man as spiritual leader, providing for his family and imparting high values, and woman as nurturer, demonstrating God's love to her family and creating a positive environment for the family. Both roles equally important, and both difficult to fully embody - not all men are cut out for leadership, and not all women are cut out for nurturing, and yet we must put God first and let him help us become who we were meant to be. Likewise, men are instructed to love their wives as Christ loved the church - this is as important as Ephesians 5:22, though many men do fail to live up to it.

[@camillashimwa7671]

@@bradyhayes9818 Im not gonna treat by husband like a God.

[@bradyhayes9818]

@@camillashimwa7671 As you shouldn't - wives are called to HONOR their husbands as they would honor God. That is, to have a willing and giving spirit, and to be faithful and loving. This doesn't mean wives are supposed to shut up and do whatever their husbands say, especially if the husband's demands conflict with God's. Rather, wives are to approach marriage considering how they might build up their husband through love and respect so that he might lead the family down the righteous path, though she ultimately serves God first. Likewise, the husband is to be a loving and gracious leader, walking with God and providing for his family. Though we are to 'submit' to God's will, he has given us free will so that we might choose his leadership, and he does not rule through fear and force. Likewise, the husband should not be sitting around thinking about the ways in which his wife could better serve his needs - that is her job. His job is to think about how he could better lead his family and serve them. Put simply, the Biblical recommendation is to be in servitude to your husbands, wives, your families. If submission was truly, and only, tyrannical, why should we submit to God? Submission is not derogatory - it is spiritually powerful. As Christians, we take power in empowering others through acts of selflessness. This is obviously a bit counterintuitive, because as humans, we tend to think of power as a means of controlling other people.

[@jackson12802]

Some things are literal some things are figurative

[@camillashimwa7671]

@@bradyhayes9818 girl i aint reading your essay. Thé only person who I will treat and honour like God is God himself. Will I love my husband? Of course. Will I respect him? Of course. But will I bow down to him and worship him like he is God? No way.

[@caliaguilar4]

Their talk about not being able to spend time with women they aren't dating/married to has "Mike Pence refusing to be left alone with a woman and bringing his wife everywhere" energy. Like it's not the respectful move they think it is ; it's just them admitting they don't know how to act around women

[@suddypahp5224]

Not only that but it shows they don't value women other than as a partner? Like they see a woman and their minds just go to "must have sex to talk or be friendly" And to go further, I don't think they value women as humans either tbh. To them it's just 'woman = friend you have sex with but you cannot not have sex' which is what dating is for most people anyway. And when it comes to half of the population it's just dating. Do they realize they have moms even? Women can be a whole a lot to you, sisters, friends, girlfriends etc. and yet they see women as not even human, alongside men.

[@xXluluchanelXx]

@@suddypahp5224 they straight up believe the only women with LITERALLY ANY VALUE TO THEM are ones they can sleep with. shocked pikachu face when they get called sexist.

[@AnnaRenee]

Growing up in a fundie church I wasn’t allowed to be alone with any man/boy besides my family, it’s a pretty prevalent thing

[@later_babes]

it’s a huge thing for fundamentalists. my dad used to bring me along when my mom wasn’t available if he had to talk to a woman at church. it’s called the billy graham rule :/ (obviously bc it was propagated by the protestant king of absent fathers and shitty husbands: billy graham)

[@sarafekihsaid1197]

@@AnnaRenee wait, like not even your dad or your brother?

[@kquinnvandevelde1384]

Them saying a man and woman shouldn't be friends because you can gain anything from a woman is so sad, because like... Friendship isn't about what you can gain from a relationship. That's such a sad way to look at relationships of any type.

[@watermelon..]

right? like- just have friends, maybe? and the way that one guy rated his friends just shows that he’s so confused about friendships

[@osoup]

i think theyre mistaking platonic friendships w friends w benefits☠️☠️

[@TheCrateOfLemons]

"If a wife can honor her husband like she honors Jesus..." But you're not Jesus, my guy, and you're saying she should put you or her husband on the same level as your god? Do you not see the blasphemy by your own standards? I'm an atheist, and it's readily apparent to me.

[@rosemali3022]

I could easily be wrong, as I was never part of the church either... but I think it's just another way of the patriarchy to exclude women. I think maybe they dont think women can have as strong a relationship with god as men do. So it's not blasphemy because women are only capable of loving God the same amount they can love and worship their husbands? Just a guess.

[@malsake3739]

For an atheist who hasn’t read scripture, you sure are arrogant. Ephesians 5:22-24.

[@rosemali3022]

@@malsake3739 Just because the bible says it doesn't mean it isnt hypocritical. I am well aware of this verse as its precisely the verse that made me and my mom leave the church when I was young. She wasnt religious but took me to Sunday school in case I would get anything out of it. Now, telling my mother who ran our business, handled all financials, took care of me (without abusing me), and was the primary breadwinner to submit to my dad.. that wasnt at all acceptable. My dad stole 6k from me when I was a kid, took out 2 leans on the house and lost it, and crashed more businesses than I care to remember. If it weren't for that, I might be a Christian today. You would think that saving souls would be more important than adhering to words a mortal man wrote ages ago but, I guess not. Oh wait... no sorry, saving souls is more important than that when it comes to mixed fibers and shell fish. Just not when it comes at the expense of male superiority. Which is, again, hypocritical. Why dont you focus on your soul and I'll focus on mine.

[@andreacole9658]

Honoring your husband is basically showing your respect to him like you would respect Jesus. It’s not saying that they are on the same level of God. We know fully well that God is above us and we submit to his authority. Jesus is that saying wives should follow in suit with this same submission to their husbands. If you would like to discuss more I am happy to explain in a healthy way of course.

[@Alice-gy4yv]

Are they gonna honor their wives the way they honor Jesus huh??

[@lizzie_hope_h]

them mansplaining the term mansplain is just perfectly ironic

[@wepeelwraps]

_on_ a podcast called “mansplain” it’s just...too much

[@keving7940]

It's honestly a perfectly advertised podcast like this sounds weird but I didn't expect a podcast named mansplain to actually mansplain every fucking thing

[@xfreja]

deadass

[@theomacer3094]

There are men in that video? ...Where?

[@lizzie_hope_h]

@@theomacer3094 haha true

[@jaguarluv13]

“Men desire honor” someone watched Mulan too many times

[@PhantoRoyce]

One day a woman put Nicks controller on the top shelf and he was never the same

[@aporue5893]

🤣

[@pietrofattorello]

i KNOW these guys didn't just claim that HETEROSEXUAL MALE FRIENDSHIP is being underrepresented in media in favor of gay relationships..... i wanna scream

[@apparentlylivin]

It's weird that they connected sexuality to friendships, excluding with benefits.

[@tyleroberg9986]

It’s almost like they think gay people don’t have friends of the same gender

[@echoformsart]

@@tyleroberg9986 bold of u to assume they’re going to be logical in anyway

[@500sensationalsalads5]

It's true, I ALWAYS see gay relationships and RARELY ever straight ones represented on the Telly. It makes me feel for straight cis men😔

[@jetmcgee4218]

Yes the lone ranger was a very gay movie. So was the avengers and any movie with men working together. They were totally all super ultra gay.

[@anap6187]

it makes me really happy when a guy i'm interested in has close friendships with girls, because it means he can see women as actual human beings, not sex objects

[@PurpleUnicornBarf]

Yesss agreee

[@Ray.5446.]

I had a boyfriend like this, but he was having sex with all of them and believed in the friend zone.

[@Lena-xy8id]

Even if they have actual male friends I'm impressed lol

[@umbral_echo]

ikr?? my boyfriend, although actually an introvert, tends to be sociable (unlike me haha) so he made quite a few friends while being an exchange student at my high school (how we met) - including the children of the host he was with - and some of them were girls. But he didn't really treat them different, he just was nice to everyone. I remember falling harder for him after seeing him interact with the daughters of the host family so genuinely - he even once sent me a picture after he let a couple of them put makeup on him lol~ It was adorable. (I think part of it was also because he wishes he had a little sibling growing up but he's an only child, so - either way, he's a precious man.) Admittedly there was one time where I felt a little bad when he was interacting with another exchange student who was a girl - but that's because there was a misunderstanding on my end and I thought he liked her (and i have very low self-esteem due to my depression, so that didn't help) - we were both very oblivious to each other's feelings for a long time lmao.

[@nickherrera1041]

Lmfao

[@M2ofEMMM]

Hearing straight people talk about how they don't think it's possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to is really eye-opening for why they treat gay men, lesbians, and bi/pansexual people with such high levels of fear and distrust.

[@fictionalfinesse]

🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮. I pity the women who will wind up with these men.

[@Sabrina45678]

The way that Christian men will talk about women with hate in their eyes is genuinely one of the scariest things

[@athenascraft]

ikr…

[@profile1172]

The way white women will say this about Christians considering women in Christian countries have equal rights. While women in other countries do not but white women will never say anything about Islam or Hindu the same as Christians

[@Cameracat89]

Islam is undoubtedly worse

[@archaichermit3566]

@@profile1172 the way that most white women grew up in the western world where the dominant organized religion is Christianity.

[@profile1172]

@@archaichermit3566 Yeah, very hypocritical I would say. Western world has the best human rights in the world

[@enby_kensei]

The vibe of this podcast makes me feel like I'm at a party and I should cover my drink.

[@Dethamaranth]

the vibe of this podcast makes me feel like i'm at a party and i should be calling my mom to come pick me up because i'm scared

[@sunsetpotion]

this is such an accurate description

[@user-vy2hz6fl6x]

Legitimately

[@cez_is_typing]

Literally It feels like I’ve been dragged along by one of my female friends who knows this guy and I’m just sat there being forced to listen because they won’t let me speak

[@justinbailey2347]

“I’m gonna go pet that dog I saw earlier”

[@invaderzim6666]

The friend zone is just the “oh god not this guy again” zone

[@airheadwonnie]

"you dont see close guy friends on tv w/o them being gay !!11!" well no. here are some examples of close guy friends in media charles & peralta - brooklyn 99 phineas, ferb, baljeet, and buford - phineas and ferb gumball, darwin, tobias, banana joe, larry - the amazing world of gumball sonic, tails, and knuckles - the entirety of the sonic universe izuku and iida (idk if im spelling that right) - my hero academia robin, cyborg, and beast boy - teen titans mordecai and rigby - regular show wayne brigsby and kimbell cho - the mentalist nolan and jackson - the rookie cricket and remy - big city greens do u see where im getting at?? there's a pretty good rep of males who are just friends in media so

[@SquirmieWormington]

“There’s nothing you can get from a friendship with a girl that you can’t get from a friendship with a guy. So girl friendships are unnecessary” yeah but. Hot take here. It’s not the gender of the friend that matters, it’s about the unique person. You can’t just exchange one person for another and expect the same experience cause every person is unique. It’s about the personality. I know, controversial opinion here.

[@tjfm2456]

And earlier in the podcast, they literally said you shouldn’t assign traits to someone based on their gender. So does gender matter or does it not matter?? 😂

[@saram3449]

Also doesn’t that statement literally put men and women on the same level 😭😂 like he’s saying they both offer the same thing in friendships sooooo why avoid friendships with women?

[@abbyburtin5924]

Let alone the implication that interactions with women are only valuable if they are romantic or sexual.

[@nakamotorskrskrvroom8038]

@@saram3449 yea cuz if its the same then how is one more necessary or unnecessary than the other

[@nakamotorskrskrvroom8038]

Like i'm being friends with a person not a gender tf

[@EllenMarvolo]

”Sometimes a woman is your secretary…” my jaw literally dropped

[@NosebleeddeGroselha]

This sounded just pathetic to me. These guys talked in this section as if all of them were powerful CEOs who have secretaries to take care of their important business schedules. They are almost hopping into wattpad territory.

[@anapaulalym]

NO LITERALKYYYY

[@azombiegg]

Forrealll😭

[@blackrosejinx5563]

They are the reason we have workplace harassment PSA videos.

[@BulletC12]

Their podcast is the perfect example of group think cus they all reinforce each other rather than challenging one another to keep thinking about what they believe…

[@cinder.squire1122]

Having grown up in the church with this bizarre segregation between genders, I can't even. I can't even begin to try and argue with it because of how intrinsically and inherently wrong their ideology is. So thank your doing it for me, Nick.

[@poopfartlmao2986]

i genuinely don’t think that any of them have ever met a real woman. they’re just theories to them lol

[@kevinchavez6226]

Is like jesus

[@fart63]

@@kevinchavez6226 except women are way hotter than Jesus

[@goldenmolelover]

@@fart63 debateable

[@Takamiko22]

"You only need women in your life for marriage. Aside from that, only men." Damn can't believe I have to cancel my mom and sister 😫

[@fart63]

If they like men so much why don’t they just marry them

[@soodleroodle2017]

also big nik is famously close with his mother… so like does he just not talk to her anymore???

[@baani4217]

@@fart63 Fr like why even leave that out? We're all for adam and steve yknow😏

[@yourspritzels]

@@soodleroodle2017 she probably disowned him, I would too.

[@dionemartins0212]

The Starbucks tiktok... my man walked in, didn't order, didn't pay and just went "I'll take that to go"

[@mikayladouglas2503]

I feel like the biggest thing with feminism in the church is both recognizing that many of these men are just straight up sexist and predatory. But also, that a lot of the women in the church try to hide it, make excuses for it, or just dismiss it. I'm terrified of some churches because as loving as they pretend to be, its only when you do exactly what they say AND get the result that they want. Boys like these are exactly where it starts. If you cant have a platonic relationship with a woman then that means you only see her having one purpose. If your wife is angry that you have relationships with "random woman" its because one, shes toxic, and two, thats how you see them. I dont have random relationships with men. I have FRIENDS. I HAVE FAMILY. Men have more "use" to me than sexual pleasure. A deep emotional connection does not constitute sex. Saving yourself till marriage is a whole nother thing. There is nothing wrong with having a platonic relationship with the opposite sex. It teaches you important things. Obviously, they have yet to have any good ones.

[@samantha-sr7rm]

it’s honestly terrifying hearing grown men talk like this

[@san1883]

Fr, I like to pretend that these kinda people don’t exist/aren’t common for my own sanity but damn.. when you come across shit like this? It’s genuinely so depressing, and scary.

[@Cameracat89]

Many young guys feel that way. Its not this bad lol

[@jennywhat6108]

I’m not terrified. They are honestly pathetic and can’t terrify

[@dont_harsh_my_mellow]

@@Cameracat89 it is bad because they clearly don’t respect women and create a straw man when insulting feminism to where I genuinely wonder if they’ve ever spoken to a feminist in their lives. It’s not ok. Because women deserve to have respectful men in their lives who won’t treat them like potential property.

[@smash5551]

@@dont_harsh_my_mellow Exactly 💯

[@blueace1000]

It’s funny how some Christians always bring up that women should submit to their husbands and honour them like God but will never bring up the fact that under that phrase it says that men should want to die for their wives and love them how Christ loves the church. 🤔

[@princestory26]

tell it!!!!! so true

[@profile1172]

First, you don't seem christian I would like you to know no one ever says to treat the husband like God. These dudes are a minority of a minority in a religion of 2 billion but yes, submitting to your husband is true as men should save their wives. Why is submitting to your husband or wife wrong? Both have roles in the family. Its okay for someone to submit and slave over their boss and work but for your family its somehow wrong?

[@blueace1000]

@@profile1172 First, I’m a Christian and second I never mentioned that a person couldn’t submit to their partner - I was just pointing how one phrase is cherry picked and used in contexts that it wasn’t meant for ;For example being used by misogynistic men

[@NomNomGirl1]

@@profile1172 they aren't a minority

[@jessii7642]

@@profile1172 you took her entire comment out of context.

[@rai4119]

This video made me so appreciative of almost every guy friend I've ever had (Of course there're going to be a few exceptions). It was just so natural for us to be friends. Wtf I knew there was a lot of men out there who complained about women wanting only friendship. But I had no idea that there were men who didn't think male and female friendships even existed

[@pintobean5961]

As a Christian woman, the only person I'm honoring like Jesus is Jesus. Just because "men desire honor" I have to worship my husband the same way I worship Christ? That's literally idolatry. The verse that I think they're referring to goes both ways, but they fail to mention the part of the husband. The marital relationship is supposed to be God-honoring through the way the husband and wife honor each other. These men have a completely warped and entitled view of everything they've talked about. wtf. (edited for clarity)

[@Common_Blue]

This whole group sat there for the entire podcast and said that women have no other benefits than being objects and wives and girlfriends which is so fucking sexist and it’s crazy that they all thought that those were ok statements to make.

[@glamglam8347]

and then theyre gonna be the same ones wondering why theyre single and blaming women for it. or theyre gonna be the same ones triggered when a girl doesnt want to have sex with them

[@snooganslestat2030]

Well to them there isnt a problem thinking that way.

[@efo19wire]

“the word mansplained is sexist!!” and then they go on to say all of that shit like whattttt ok pick a side :/

[@LoneWulf278]

They’re fundamentalist Christians. I don’t know what we expected. 😂

[@OurLadyOfSorrows4]

And secretaries! 😂

[@evanholt1752]

12:18 As an ace person, it’s really wild that these people think the only difference between friendships and relationships is sex.

[@eldritchtourist]

Oh man, I'm glad somebody else noticed-- I'm not ace (I am queer though, trans guy with a nonbinary fiancé, & we're straight passing IRL which tends to give me a sense of being an undercover spy on this culture), but I am super into romance, and while the best romance has a foundation of healthy friendship it's an entirely different beast with such intense feelings woven into it. Not understanding that honestly makes me feel like they haven't even experienced romantic love at all, just sexual attraction VS friendship. (Which is probably why they define themselves so deeply by their identity as heterosexual men, too.) Not from lacking the ability to feel romantic attraction, but from not seeing their partners as human enough to get that passionate to begin with. It's nuts. You can hear it in the way they talk about girls. A partner to them is the 1 girl they think is sexually attractive and stay at home wife material enough to motivate them to suppress their sexual attraction for other women and commit to just the one. Incredibly objectifying, takes all the magic out. One more note is that I think this makes guys (and the women stuck with them who know they aren't taken seriously) like this way more likely to cheat on their partners. Not that cheating is always logical, but a culture of defining relationships so much around sex means that if you get sexually attracted to anyone else while in a relationship there's not going to be enough of a deeper bond there to stop you from cheating for momentary thrill. Majority of the time, sex becomes a little more familiar (not bad, just familiar) the longer you spend with someone, but I don't think a deep connection with someone can ever stop feeling novel if it's authentic. Almost six years into my relationship and I still wake up feeling like I'm a teenager experiencing their first love.

[@littlefoxboy]

yes!! arospec ace here, these men really need to learn about the different types of attraction and relationships smh

[@shoshishoshi127]

Straight allosexuals should really hang out with aces and listen to them explain different types of attraction because not everything is just "sexual attraction." Many straight allosexuals don't like learning about queer relationships, so they also don't know that people experience relationships and attraction differently from them.

[@kartolina444]

ikr??? this thought is so shallow

[@gabriellerose6847]

HONESTLY

[@Sky.leiann]

As someone you was forced to go to christian private school in high school….their whole vibe gives me war flashbacks

[@eren29122]

the way that titus said "if a woman is your.. secretary" was so condescending, like he couldn't fathom a female co-worker that wasn't below him 19:39

[@nonaide]

It bugs me how many people don't recognize that a key element of mansplaining is that the woman already understands what is being "explained" to her, often better than the man. Sometimes they are literal experts on the topic being explained to them. It's the assumption that you couldn't possibly know what you're talking about or already understand that makes it so infuriating.

[@jrfilms107]

That is the best explanation I've read for mansplaining. Thank you!

[@panepena7715]

Why it has to be specifically mansplaining? There is lots of other words for phenomena you explained quite specifically in your comment.

[@nonaide]

@@panepena7715 No, there aren't other words to describe the phenomenon of men "explaining" things at women who already understand the topic. It's called mansplaining because it's rooted in the sexist assumption that women don't understand what they're talking about.

[@panepena7715]

@@nonaide Wouldnt that be a bit specific case to invent the word? Dont women do that too? Anyone with big ego does that. It may also come from experiences and assuming that the motive is sexist and making up words based on it is redicilous.

[@Ray.5446.]

I'm going to school for microbiology and a woman mansplained gut microbes to me. She spoke to me like if I was a five year old. I didn't say anything to her. I wanted to see what she had to say. 😅🤣

[@Phished123]

I love the discussion about men not being able to show affection towards each other without being called gay. Yeah? I wonder who started perpetuating that idea? I wonder who helped foster the idea that we need to be accusatory and suspicious of people who may or may not be gay. I wonder why our society feels the need to stick their nose in other people's business when it comes to who they want to date. Its crazy how blind they are.

[@WerewolfCat890]

it's so ironic how true this is. the majority of issues affecting men were created and are perpetuated by other men, but they always point the finger at women or feminists

[@mylord9395]

Literally it's the fucking patriarchy's fault. Dafuq are they crying about when they are the ones doing it to themselves?! So fucking stupid and tone deaf oooooh it's makes me rage

[@LoneWulf278]

@@WerewolfCat890 Especially when most feminists are the main ones trying to steer society away from stupid views like that. But because they use a few scary words like “toxic”, people are quick to jump to conclusions about what they’re trying to say.

[@bingflop81]

this is the first reply section where i liked every comment LOL but yes!!! they blame women for everything although they were the ones who created this stigma in the first place???? it’s like that meme of that guy making himself fall off his bike and then proceeding to blame something/someone totally unrelated

[@mayaislame4164]

All these replies, yep yep yep yep yepp and 100% agree such an intellectually stimulating comment section, I LOVE IT!

[@nathaliem3423]

10:07 one of our literal commandments is do not praise other idols........so if you want me to praise my husband the way I would Jesus and God......I'm defying Christian rules....wtf these children just have so many insecurities and want women to make them feel like a man when in actuality Jesus would 100% tell them they're wrong ughhhh

[@zanebullock]

the beginning segment is so accurate, im a christian but i used to avoid the christian youth groups that were full of nerdy kids thinking they were like 35 years old talking in a certain way and belittling the shit out of you cause theyre almost as wise as God himself

[@rebarobi]

The fact that the podcast is called mansplained and then they all proceed to talk over each other and not listen to each other 😶😂

[@mortalLP]

Too true!

[@ieattheburger]

Made me think it was satire, for a second...

[@newwalrus4913]

The universe almost imploded when they were telling each other what condescending was 😂💀

[@jiminsbitch212]

Him telling people who use they/them pronouns to just “be normal”. Okay, bignik, just get taller.

[@shayb4498]

that is insane coming from him considering he has a transgender sister

[@blueace1000]

@@shayb4498 I hope she’s surrounded by people who actually respect her

[@BallinBunBun]

@@shayb4498 that's so sad, I can't imagine having to have a transphobic sibling while being trans ):

[@shayb4498]

@@blueace1000 If I'm not mistaken, her mom is very supportive

[@shayb4498]

@@BallinBunBun It's so awful

[@2J_a_v_i_e_r7]

They think of women the same way 4 year old boys think of girls

[@Jack-it2pe]

"Men are a part of the strong civilization of society" 20:39 I've repeated that out loud 20 times and I'm still worse off as to what the fuck he's on about.

[@ali.dollard4950]

when one of them said "their standing up for women" in a mocking tone while laughing, it really showed that they are well aware that they're putting women down constantly.

[@blueace1000]

They’re worse than men who don’t realise they’re doing it

[@deadcorpse69]

they're men.... that's how men are like...

[@WCBProductions]

@@deadcorpse69 nah that's insulting to men who actually give a shit about women, these mfs aren't anywhere near that category

[@araw_buwan]

@@WCBProductions True. Stop generalizing all men as terrible and all women as saints.

[@haeymzmdlcccc]

@@WCBProductions to be fair "giving a fuck about women" is like... the bare minimum and stuff...

[@hellonyan3827]

As someone who was a female childhood friend of one of them, it's really disheartening to hear him think that way about our friendship.

[@rowan.]

I'm sorry, that sucks :(

[@cc-terfay]

Holy shit I’m so sorry

[@cass422]

u dodged a huge bullet tho. i hope ur doing well in ur life!!!!

[@chthonickore]

I'm really sorry dude you don't deserve to be treated that way

[@malts6774]

"your homeboys change sometimes. the thoughts rearrange in their brains sometimes. too hard dealing with the pain sometimes but you gotta let go you cant save their lives" - Dr. Lyle Ugleman

[@jordansingh6658]

The “she’s not going to respond to your dms” that bignik said at the end. Why was their reaction so…excited? It’s a very stupid and over used joke, they have never heard someone say it before?

[@persistentsolitude2216]

If your a human being and don’t wish hate and violence against another living organism, you have all of my respect. That is the lowest standard I have for people, and it dose not get any simpler then that.

[@mariamiller2049]

How can girls always “friend zone” guys and “lead them on” while simultaneously always “want more from the relationship (friendship)” ?? Which is it ?? Cuz it can’t be both. PICK ONE??

[@skinsey85]

Seriously. It's like all their source material for making these contradicting statements comes from different fictional movies or TV shows and not their own real life experiences lol

[@lilverson1333]

Yeah they gotta be specific it’s all situational some girls friendzone guys for attention some girls want more it’s fine just decided who you’d rather spend your time with

[@dantederi5062]

"CHOOSE SPIDERMAN!"

[@hollyhayes9640]

Being platonic friends with no expressed romantic interest from either side is "leading them on", if they're opposite genders (apparently???). (❓🤔❓🧐❓) Edit: but only female friends are capable of that. Male friends aren't.

[@realchrist]

This is what the boys are saying. Someone always wants more. It can be abusive and usury. Boys are friends with boys and girls are friends with girls. The rest are just acquaintances. These guys are P U R E.

[@brgrojean]

The amount of projection in every one of their stories about women is...astounding.

[@noriii]

seriously,, they're so obnoxious

[@xfreja]

FRRR

[@snooganslestat2030]

Not surprising though, always projection and hypocrisy.

[@adonaiyah2196]

I was in a church which was more of a room above a store. Anyway projection was HUGE. Im a guy and one time they were preying me and one of them, this john legend lookalike, made this quip 'rebuking' my feminine spirit. I was humiliated it was in front of the other guys there. It was really bad and horrible. The other guys were always attacking my perceived lack of masculinity. Theyd REVILE my cross earring, it was literally everything they represent and they HATE IT. Now i believe Jesus is lord so i forgive em. BUT they better not. In anither church they had a whole ass exorcism ritual cuz they thought i was gay. Like im really not sexually promiscuous but still.

[@Sheren_chandra]

@@adonaiyah2196 bruh they did that for what, sorry you had to go through that

[@JustAbormal]

16:24 me when I'm sneaking gum in my mouth in class

[@BunnyBrina]

“Oh and sometimes a woman can be your secretary” wow. Wow.

[@ane3sha]

i at LEAST expected the podcast to be about christianity, lovin jesus and droppin some bible verses but it was just... shocking 😭😭

[@dee6294]

NO FR

[@apricoticpeaches]

FRRR

[@yaya-tk6jq]

FR did they even bring up jesus at all😭😭

[@lemonsugaru8166]

Pretty sure they just use the excuse of religion to be sexist and homophobic and they don’t actually give a shit about Jesus

[@san1883]

@@lemonsugaru8166 yea.. so just the typical christian then

[@wolfidessdragondol]

"If I go to a subway and there's a female work there and I ask her to make me a sandwich, is that sexist?" Gives me the same feeling as " oh equal rights? Equal fights too right, right?"

[@ilovetwilight65]

At least she's getting paid to make that sandwich

[@Titus.mo1905]

I think he tried to make a joke but 💀💀💀

[@klarfaerie]

That comment was so weird. Like do you go to ANY restaurant and tell ANYONE “Make me a coffee.“ “Make me pasta” “Make me a burger”? Like The normal thing is “id like to order so and so” That’s hella condescending and disrespectful to say to anyone who works in food regardless of gender

[@thunderbird3304]

@@klarfaerie That comment says a lot about how he treats restaurant workers, or anyone that he feels is below him for that matter

[@seba.4926]

@@thunderbird3304 not really

[@PinkBerryMoose]

My husband still has all his female friends and i still have all my male friends. Healthy communications is what makes relationships strong not gender

[@lapris7380]

As a Christian girl this is not how all Christians are a lot of the things they say aren't biblical our religion is not sexist, racist, or homophobic(we do believe acting on homosexuality is a sin but that doesn't mean you will go to hell no one is beyond help and homosexuality is not any bigger than any other sin I love you all and have experienced with it once before but I still can't possibly imagine how hard it is for you and I am so sorry for what the church has done to many of you that's not what our religion truly is and I love you all very much) they are just using Christianity to justify their horrible beliefs

[@anantrawat2311]

"No TV shows have guy friends unless they end up being gay with each other", I too hated it when Walter white left his family for Jessie and his drug empire

[@ashikjaman1940]

It was a really big twist when in the last episode of Psych Shawn married Gus instead of Juliet

[@elisabet1138]

Right! Or when Barney married Ted, or when Chandler and Joey eloped! We all remember those moments

[@materialgworl7530]

YEAH! And in back to the future when Marty and the scientist eloped!

[@NIHIL_EGO]

@@materialgworl7530 tbh Marty and Doc is the ideal sugar daddy and sugar baby relationship

[@ScreamingDucksShotMyMother]

I'm not even going to lie, that would've been nice.

[@caitlinbishop6624]

“I can’t have platonic relationships with women. The definition of a platonic relationship is still an intimate friendship, so the only difference between that & a woman I’m married to is sex” So you admit it. You refuse to have relationships with women unless you can have sex with them

[@elistari1050]

Phrases I live by: What you say about others, speaks more about you, than it does them. Nobody can make you feel inferior (or anything for that matter) without your consent. The people who are meant to be, will find each other. The people who aren't, won't.

[@buffmywifi3839]

i love how they prefer to say "platonic relationship" because they know they would sounds like total jackasses if they said "you shouldn't be friends with other women"

[@gina3315]

the way these dudes can't even differentiate between platonic and romantic relationships? if you can't be friends with women that's a YOU problem buddy

[@hecknfrick4236]

The fact that one of them pretty much says the only difference is whether or not you're having sex is just wild

[@sanjanaphilips9277]

Yup

[@smallandstressed2364]

How the fuck do they even interact with their mother or sisters??

[@tomfoolery2856]

they should just date each other or something at this point

[@sarahwillacker4135]

The way they're just spouting incel rhetoric so casually

[@theomacer3094]

4channelling the spirit of the lord

[@especiallyspecialtm9093]

@@theomacer3094 I hate the fact that I understood that

[@Emily-tp1jd]

@@theomacer3094 this was funnier than it had a right to be

[@donniebelladonna4512]

right... hating on women this much.. it did sound incel-ish to me yikes

[@EroticWhale]

The problem is these guys think that the only definition of 'intimate' or 'intimacy' is sexual. Like sex can be intimate but being intimate with someone doesn't mean your fucking them.

[@cadencecarter4924]

i physically hurt at this poor representation of Christian men. its not my place to say whether or not theyre "real Christians" but obviously they got a crap ton of work to do on themselves. bc what is this i had to leave like 5 min in

[@moonriverinc7896]

Nick has dedicated himself to defeating all other Nicks in order to become the alpha nick. the Biggest Nick.

[@haketyu7891]

XD bro u did him dirty lol

[@theomacer3094]

Nick Cage is going to destroy him

[@ENTERTAINEDVENUS]

“alpha nick” 💀

[@parkerisles7256]

Shouldn't it be "sigma" Nick because they're better than alphas lol

[@jaygee5874]

He’s trying to be the biggest Nick-er ??

[@pupeat3r]

the fact gabe can’t say “condescending” has me cryin lmao

[@cary1056]

Condensending

[@wormz4brains]

condensending

[@nikkd7636]

condensending?

[@lily_png7096]

Condenscending

[@kindanothere1321]

I think you mean condensending

[@BeatzByMK]

What an embarrassment to actual Christian’s and men.

[@HelloKittyyy07]

Bruh this is what people do when you reject them bottel up their anger and then generalise it onto all women. :/ weird just weird

[@liana1599]

Maybe when having theological discussions about women, you should have some women involved???? Or literally anyone who is actually educated on biblical language, history, and interpretation

[@palapeura375]

As someone with a Master's in Theology, these kinds of discussions are the theological equivalent to Temptation Island :D I watch them for the sweet tingle of cringe

[@cc-terfay]

@@palapeura375 I can’t imagine how frustrating it would be to hear such misinformation haha

[@palapeura375]

@@cc-terfay Haha :D ​But seriously, I'm more pissed about how these types spread misogyny and racism than them being misinformed, as understanding of religious texts is never fixed anyway. (And folks with little or no theological knowledge can live a life of love and caring for their neighbor.) These asshats use religion as a tool for clout.

[@Emu19]

But that would open them up to criticism. They don't want to have a discussion. They want to be right.

[@malts6774]

dude are you serious? you want them to talk to a women?! that would be cheating! think of how devastated their future wives would be if they found out they once spoke to a female human being.

[@isacatt]

its a huge red flag if your boyfriend cant have a single woman platonic friend

[@crnkmnky]

I didn’t realize how prevalent this idea was until I started watching _90 Day Fiancé_ (a reality show). Many people on the show get territorial and insecure when they hear that their partner is maintaining platonic friendships during the new relationship. _Sometimes_ the distrust is justified. My mom actually agreed that it is appropriate for a person to set aside their opposite-sex friendships if they’re making a lifetime commitment to a romantic partner. I feel like true friends are way too rare to dispose of like that. After seeing so many negative reactions, I get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are _truly platonic_ are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…

[@noOnionswithoutTears]

I have had male platonic friends since I was a tomboy in grade school. I promise you, I never wanted to "schtup" any of those dudes. They were like my brothers. I am also happily married to a Viking built, former bouncer manly-man. He would laugh these guys right out the door. Misogyny is so gross.

[@isacatt]

@@noOnionswithoutTears preach ✋😩

[@jbtfp]

@@crnkmnky “i get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are truly platonic are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…” as a person living in asia, yep. i can’t tell you the amount of times i’ve seen in korean dramas where the male or female lead make a big deal out of the other person being friends with someone of the opposite sex, in fact, it’s always used as one of the biggest conflicts in the drama. worse yet, the plot always turns out that the friend indeed had a crush/romantically liked the lead, which just fuels this misconception even more. i stopped watching romantic dramas altogether because i feel like many of them just portray romance inaccurately. irl, i feel like this mindset might’ve partly affected me making friends with guys because growing up all my friends were females and even right now in my 20s, i have like 1 guy acquaintance, and no close guy friends at all. but i’m able to recognise that males and females can have platonic friendships. in fact, i had to be corrected on 2 separate occasions that some of my friends WERE in a relationship, even though to me they looked like they were just close friends, but they dubbed me as just oblivious. and again, it doesn’t help with improving my perception of this area lol. (yeah i have some strange issues with men and romance)

[@annieareyouok9028]

also if he stops you from having male friends YIKES

[@koebiemi2095]

i literally did a double-take when Titus said that hypothetically men can talk to women they work with "IF SHE'S YOUR SECRETARY OR SOMETHING"..... I don't know why I was still surprised but wow

[@nick-ke6wy]

ess than two minutes in and. bro really said not to listen to worldly music in a tiktok with secular music in the background 💀