Big Screen Battle! 100" QLED TV vs Projector vs UST

[@markellison24]

Still the most thorough and concise review format on YT. Love it!

[@chai_reddy]

Thanks a lot for all the effort you put into your videos. Love how thorough and technical you are. Please do more smart home videos. Cheers!

[@jschipmann]

The one major factor for me on Projector VS TV for home Theater..... Acoustically transparent screen. The sound setup I have just would not be the same with a TV. However I am incredibly glad you did this review as I have been teetering on replacing the screen with a TV... my audio being the biggest obstacle... but my use case is 50/50 Movies / Gaming... the better pixel response time and consistent refreshes top to bottom sealed it.... I'll bee sticking with projector for a while longer... well... until They have maybe a acoustically transparent QD-OLED at 120" lol

[@Bronwyn031]

You were me about two weeks ago. I was coming from a Mitsubishi HC7800D 1080p DLP Home Theater 3D Projector with an Elite Screen 100" acoustically transparent screen to a LG 86" QNED90T Mini-Led display. I regret nothing except that these new displays no longer support 3D. I too was worried about the sound field coming from underneath the display but you get used to it to be honest. My Yamaha Aventage RX8A8 does have a center channel lift feature but activating it makes the front sound field sound weird.

[@SFBenjaminK]

I bought Hisense Laser Cinema PX3-PRO with 120' ALR screen, over Black Friday for three grand for the projector an absolutely LOVE IT. NEVER go back to the regular TVs again maybe only for bedrooms🤙👍

[@TheHookUp]

I use the PX3-Pro in my own setup in my living room, also with a 120" ALR. I also love it.

[@MindOverMatter38]

Just got mine today. I got a nothing projector floor riser screen for 2600. It’s being made and will ship in a week or so. Not sure if going that expensive on a screen will be worth it or not. But i didn’t want to be in the damn i wish i woulda boat.

[@thomas.deliot]

This channel is a gem !!

[@ArchAngels4444]

This video made me a last minus turn from ust projector setup back to TV for my new house , much appreciated .

[@homecinematech]

You can have both in one oled tv budget kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4uUZIWGpbOtY68si=AX1AyH9vZkiYjDkr regular stuff with tv specials with projector how is this sounds

[@franklinbrown7389]

Love this channel. It has ruined all other review channels. I never want to hear some guy reading the spec sheet and try to convince you it looks good while sounding smart.

[@johnsaunders6510]

Best projector review channel by far. Thanks so much for measuring the absolute black floor level and contrast level. It’s so important and is missed by most projector review channels now doubt because they lack the tools and knowledge to perform the tests.

[@RaffBuilding]

Incredibly thorough as always! Great job at the great debate.

[@Uneducatedopinion57]

I use my hisense c2 to throw a 150- 160 inch image , to say its immersive is an understatement Plus the high quality are near where you sit so thats a bonus as well Almost 80 to 90 percent of a cinema experience

[@DG8RS]

This just confirms my thoughts. I've had the 100" Hisense L9G for about 2.5 years now and it's been awesome, but I do have to keep the blinds pretty much closed in my living room. The problem is I paid a boatload for that setup with the ALR screen, so I'm waiting..errr..hoping at this point that it dies so I can pick up a 100 or 110" QLED to replace it 😄. GREAT review by the way!

[@RakeshAndGreeshma]

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[@floz9718]

Exactly, if I had a dedicated cinema room, I would definitely choose a projector with AT screen. I only have a modest 5.1 home cinema with a 77" Oled TV but even with that "small" of a screen the position of the center channel is already a challenge. I imagine with a 100"+ TV it would be almost impossible to get the center into a good enough position if you are willing to go phantom center, that's not an issue though.

[@Crushonius]

@@floz9718 i encourage everyone with a big tv to try and put the center above it it seems nuts but it actually feels more like the sound is coming from the center of the tv because you are sitting kinda lower then the tv it lines up pretty good

[@green_life7]

Thanks for your honest opinion.

[@buhidef]

Great video, the usual high caliber of your work. The benefit of projectors is screens 120-150" or more. TVs become impractical at this point.

[@TheFirstRealChewy]

Until we get reasonably priced micro LED TVs made from multiple panels. That said, I want the projector for watching movies in the backyard.😊

[@JonnyMoto]

Glad I ordered the Valerion Max! I see the pre-order shipments got moved back to "After May"

[@homeboi808]

Now repeat with the $3000 Hisense U8 100” 💸. Rtings shows better HDR color volume and better reflection handling than the U7, which were 2 of your main cons.

[@TheHookUp]

I don't think RTINGs reviewed the 100" models, only the 65" which got a panel upgrade this generation. The 100" models just got upgraded dimming zones.

[@SqueamishPuppet]

@TheHookUp yeah maybe the panel is the same but if the reflective coating is upgraded that would be a huge plus because that U7 looked REALLY bad at least in this video. Maybe not as bad in person but in this video it looked unbearably bad with any lighting.

[@JinglesOnJuniper]

I have 150” projector and with how big TVs are getting it’s making me consider down sizing to get a tv when I upgrade. But looking at a comparison photo of 150” to 100” screen there is no contest haha idk how much better the tv quality is I’d pick that huge screen every time. Great review!

[@brianpowell2298]

I went through this very decision making last week. After having 2 groview 818s and 2 pj40s get bad lcd burn from heavy use all in just a few months. Not a lot of info on mid range projectors that aren’t single LCD $800-1300 range! Decided for a tiny NYC apartment space is more important than picture quality (as long as it can withstand heavy use) and went with a ViewSonic PX701-4K. The colors are not great but I truly couldn’t be happier for 800 bucks!

[@JoeHusosky]

Could not agree more. They make some nice projectors for the money. My preferred brand is optima gaming projectors but using just the regular screen or even in my master bedroom the wall with some barrel ultra white. Nobody ever says anything other than how great the projector looks

[@infiniti37G]

the colors can be adjusted lots of settings, make it look alot better. I have it

[@topandrun126]

I really appreciate the time you put into your conten thanks.

[@topandrun126]

I mean content

[@gregarega]

Thanks for another amazing video! I was in the EXACT dilemma a few weeks ago (I wanted to replace 5yo 65inch tv) and in the end I went for Hisense px3 with valerion 120 floor rising screen. Here are my reasons: - 120 is IMERSIVE and noticeable bigger than 100. - I hate the look of 100 inch tv dominating my living room, floor rising screen and projector are hidden in my cupboard - I watch it 90% during the night. If I would need it during the day, I would definitely go for tv, projector is barely usable in my living room. Evening watching is already great. My conclusion is that it is really up to a personal preferences and room conditions. As things look I'll never go back to tv because I wouldn't want 100' tv or bigger dominating my living room.

[@martyb3783]

Very thorough and unbiased comparison. Great video as always!

[@damianburke1229]

Another excellent, informative video. Do you know if the tv featured in the video has a VA or IPS panel?

[@luthersmen]

This was a great video. I would switch to a 100 inch tv, but do love 3d from my epson2150.

[@kelownatechkid]

Same here, I would love to get a big TV but I'm not giving up stereoscopic movies !!

[@sinjinadams2862]

I 100% agree! I recently purchased an AWOL projector to replace a 3D TV. Projectors are the only game in town now if you want 3D. The 3D is great but the picture quality is not even close to my old TV.

[@hattanbashir]

Keep up the great work Robert! I received my VisionMaster Pro2 a few weeks ago and it has been amazing. of course, buying it just to watch in 100" would be a lot of money and there are better cheaper options as you showed, but if you want anything above 120", a projector is still the way to go. Since it's my first projector, even my first professional "display" ever, would you be interested in making a guide for tuning our projectors, even if we don't have professional calibrating gear? always wondered, why is FILMMAKER mode on every device is yellow and too warm?

[@jamesloehr641]

Glad to see you do a somewhat tested review of the u76n. Currently you are the only review i have seen for the tv that did any testing on it at all. Depsite the tv selling very well, none of the major reviewers have reviewed my tv or did any test on it. There is pretty much zero comparison videos of the larger 98 to 100 inch class tvs also. So knowing which set to buy you have to base souly on specs alone. Which kinda sucks for tv buyers in this size class. Ratings and even digital trends have not done any comparison videos of this size class of tv. Many reviews for these tvs dont even exist at all. Like i said no tested reviews other than yours for any testing on the u76n. I also have not seen any reviews for the 98 inch samsung du9000d either. Now with the qm7,qm8, u8k you kinda can just base those off of their smaller model counter parts. But some of these tvs are not in a class but kinda its own unique set. Like the u76n is not a u7n. Its a completely unique model tv that shares specs with u8 and u7 series and its not a mini led. Same with the large 98 inch samsung not really sharing specs with smaller counterparts. My 86 lg didn't really have any tested reviews either. I had the ur8000 86 inch lg before this tv and while it has smaller counterparts the 86 inch had 120hz panel.instead of the smaller sets having only 60hz and some features the smaller sets did not have like the magic remote and vrr. Its also slightly brighter than the smaller sets with a different upgraded cpu. So sometimes these larger sets are their own unique tv and they often get overlooked with no reviews at all for that specific set unfortunately. Specially not tested reviews or comparison reviews. So that being said I hope more reviewers start doing larger models that have different specs and do tested reviews on these tvs.

[@paulbeers4105]

I bought this exact tv last fall for $2300. It was the best decision we could make. It replaced a fairly nice 120” screen with a vivatek 4K projector. Even in our basement Rec room, with no windows, it’s so nice to be able to have a lamp or other lights on without impacting image quality. Yes we downgraded in size and I do miss that especially in 23:9 where you already lose a ton of image real estate to the black bars, but it’s just night and day difference especially for $2k. You just can’t get a projector combo anywhere close. One of my buddies replaced his 105” projector with it and another scrapped his projector plans to go with it as well.

[@TheMeefive]

Isinbox projector (4k support autofocus, auto keystone and Bluetooth): $100 150 inch screen: $30 There's no way I'd ever buy another tv

[@paulbeers4105]

@ this is a joke reply right?

[@TheMeefive]

@@paulbeers4105 Bigger is better. Anyone who says different is settling for fun size

[@Jamic9]

For me its all about 3D, hence why I'm a big fan of UST projectors. Great video by the way.

[@diamond4829]

This is only true now as TV's drop in price. And I barely got my 70" TV up on the wall. Heavy. I just upgrade my 120" movie screen to 135" .... and there's no comparison. 120 is small, which now makes 100" "tiny ". I went with the LS12000 Epson projector and one year later, i still smile every time I turn it on 😊

[@davidfluty7213]

Great content! Wouldn’t the U8K be a better comparison due to pricing?

[@0M9H4X_Neckbeard]

You're a freaking saint. Another fantastic video. But I'm very sad I missed the Valerion Pro 2 kickstarter price, I really hope it goes on sale again. +900 bucks is no joke, that's the cost of the screen...

[@zodiacfml]

thanks, still a long way to go for projectors. I like projectors due to portability-can be moved easily for a multitude of scenarios.

[@LostScout-8X]

Thank you for this review!

[@simpatico.official]

Also is the hisense c1 still worth it?

[@TheHookUp]

Depends on the price. I'd say around $1200ish the C1 still makes sense.

[@jamesm7498]

Excellent and detailed review as always.Question, do you plan on reviewing AR glasses(e.g. Xreal,Rokid) in the future too?

[@TheHookUp]

It is on my 2025 list of things to do, yes.

[@pulDag]

Thanks! Great comparison, but I would say most homes have white ceiling and walls. And most users are not using ALR screen. Only reason to have a projector is when you need a center channel behind the screen and/or the need of 100"+ size of the image regardless the quality.

[@zoominginonstuff8146]

FYI: The Hisense TV looks better in SDR than HDR overall. Lower brightness means the blacks are OLED like, the slight grey/blue haze to the image disappears, and the colours are more accurate.

[@TheHookUp]

I disagree, I tested DV, HDR10 with DTM and SDR and I thought DViQ was the best image mode by a significant margin.

[@zoominginonstuff8146]

@@TheHookUp Fair enough. I just don't like that slight haze in some scenes when the backlight is on full blast. (I meant SDR at 150nits or less). Maybe it's more content dependent than SDR vs HDR as such. Thanks for the good comparison video by the way.

[@TheHookUp]

Do you mean on a TV without local dimming? The U76N has very effective local dimming zones.

[@zoominginonstuff8146]

I have a U7K 100" in Australia which is MiniLED 1500nit brightness and 1620dimming zones. In HDR mode with backlight at 100 it is very good but the black bars are raised a bit and you can see a slight haze over the picture occasionally as you mentioned in the video. Some HDR stuff is great but a lot of movies actually technically look better in SDR with the backlight set at 5 and around 180nits as the bars are OLED black even in a dark room and picture has a bit more depth due to the perfect gamma tracking and more precise colours. I know one misses out on the brighter highlights, but movies that spend most of their time below 200nits and are properly mastered in SDR (Not tone mapped from an HDR source) just look more OLED Like and natural. It might be interesting for others with similar TVs to experiment though, as coming from OLED TVs I just assumed HDR would always be better until I played around with this LED which behaves differently depending on the Backlight level.

[@proxlamuz4591]

Another excellent video. Well done!

[@XmokiPT]

great content, can't wait for the review or comparison for NexiGo Aurora MKII

[@TheHookUp]

Coming soon.

[@AGILISFPV]

What a comparison video, truly inclusive of all buying considerations. Thank you for your hard work. One question I have is a lot of people say projectors are better in general just because they reflect light and that’s how “we naturally see” instead of emitting light like a TV does. Does this actually matter?

[@TheHookUp]

In my experience and testing, no. That is a line that I often repeated but in practice I did not have any more eye fatigue watching the TV vs watching the projector.

[@AmoniaLS]

Hope to see this segmented down into smaller budgets, that'd be cool!

[@NullishConvalescence]

Great video! I think the light recreation was a bit aggressive. Most people just have dimmable pot lights which aren’t causing much issues on a tv. I personally just use lamps rather than overhead lights which makes it easy to just turn off the ones that would cause glare. & for the price difference there is a lot of options, you can buy a higher end TV, a pretty awesome sound system and still have money left over

[@YashSharma-pj4qh]

thanks you for the video - for these specific reasons i ditched out projector at last moment and went with Sony 890L 98inch instead and that difference is world apart in light conditions , the contract and dark grains are mind boggling .

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Wow . u could have gotten 110” , 98” UX with that price . Those r Full Gloss screen too . contrast : (Rtings ) UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 UX -- 400000:1 🔥 Bravia9-380000:1 < SONY> U9N-- 325000:1 Hisense 2024 U8N-- 290000:1

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@YashSharma-pj4qh hey 👋🏻 sorry hope my last comment wasn’t rude . X90L 98” is very pricy , I heard that TCL made that panel for SONY . So Sony boost price . Early 2000-2008 SONY’s best LCDs were contracted made by Samsung . Then SONY’s Big launch 🚀 LEDs begining of 2009-2012. 100 💯 made by -SHARP TV Japan .🇯🇵 Late 2011 Sony went back to Samsung (Buying Samsung LED as Sony ) So 2015 Hisense Bought Best Japanese LED - Sharp TV . Later they bought Toshiba n bunch . N started to launch 🚀 Extream HIGH end TVs globally last 6 yr in a row . But before that they didn’t have production line , they only sold cheap Ass Hisense Roku tv in Walmart . It turned out the had high end all this time just didn’t sell them in USA . 🇺🇸 In case ppl don’t know , in this video Hisense U76N is their mid range QLED (not mini led ) . If u hear ppl talk about U8N … those r Mini LEDs look like Bravia9 (which lots ppl suspect SONY used Samsung Patterns for Bravia9 this year ). Just passing this info , in case might help u . The UX -- at CES 2024 , CES 2025 r INSANE! Linus Techtips has 1 of 110” in his studio lol 😂

[@S1lverLocks]

Life style pjs like valerion vision master max allow you to take it room to room. On vacation in hotel rooms, or friends house at the drop of a hat. Try carrying around a 100" tv with one hand. These newer pjs 1000 times more versitile with automatic setup features. The vision master max is still considered a reference quality pj. 🤞With interchangeable lens system we may also have 2:35 to 1 anamorphic feature as well!

[@OrngRubberDucky]

A couple things that I thought of being an owner of an older projector (think 720p), is the how do you get your sound? I'm guessing the newer ones have speakers? Do they sound decent? Also on the topic of sound. My projector is relatively loud curious how much sound the newer ones make. But honestly I love the effort you put into finding and giving information!

[@EvanWasHere]

Amazing work as always. I just wish that you would also test power consumption of each. I'm wondering how much a 100" TV's power cost over 3 years would be vs a 150 inch projector.

[@guystirling8000]

Do you plan on testing the plus 2 at any point? I’m interested to see how much difference there is in the brightness

[@TheHookUp]

I don't currently have any plans to do that.

[@pierreyap4917]

Great video and analysis as usual. The Valerion Pro 2 winning the perfect room round is kind of a surprise to me. Thinking the TV is twice as bright and much higher contrast ratio would win in the comparison. Those naysayer saying LS12000 is better must be living in their cocoon.

[@aviatoFPV]

would be interesting to see a comparison with the aurora pro mk2, people are claiming blacklevels close to oled.

[@TheHookUp]

It’s not the black levels of the projector that becomes an issue, it’s the black levels of the screen when even the smallest amount of ambient light is present. In a perfect room the Valerion was amazing.

[@alelbone7605]

​@@TheHookUp Excuse my curiosity, but have you received your test device from Nexigo by now?

[@TheHookUp]

Yes, arrived yesterday. Still in the box though.

[@alelbone7605]

​@@TheHookUpThanks Bro, we'll wait patiently for your announcement and are really excited.

[@aviatoFPV]

@ exciting!

[@donny_bahama]

Clearly, the best of all worlds is a 100” TV for daytime viewing with a 120” (or larger) motorized screen dropping down in front of it. Of course, that requires a substantial budget but if you go a little smaller on the TV (and a little cheaper on the projector and screen) you can do it more affordably. I’ve been doing this for a while now and have been very happy with it but if I had the budget for electrochromic PDLC blackout smart film for my windows, I’d much rather skip the TV and just focus on light control. Rob, you might consider doing some videos/reviews of smart film options.

[@ExcelsiorTech]

One thing that no one talks about is that it's possible to do full-size behind-the-screen speakers with an acoustically transparent screen and projector setup. Yes, I know that the picture quality takes a hit and there is room logistics to be mindful of, but going that route is extremely immersive and enjoyable. Putting three tower speakers behind the TV at 150+ inches is impossible.

[@Swecan76]

The simple reality is this: If you can manage to bring in a large TV like a 98" or up to 116". Those even the "not as good" ones will still out perform any projector and UST. The black levels, brightness and contrast etc will be better. This example of U76N is a pretty 'bad' one as well. With that I mean there are far better TVs to get at large size.

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

I don't have a projector, and might never get one, but I'm interested mostly for the 3D playback feature. I've got a decent library of 3D movies (I think 50+?), but TVs just don't get made that support it. I do plan to get the future Samsung VR headset, but converting my 3D movies would be a pretty big hassle. Mainly interested in UST projectors. The Nexigo Aura Pro catches my eye, but between the price of the projector, an appropriate screen, and issues with space....

[@davidauerbach3873]

Center speaker placement with an UST projector can be difficult and the height of the screen will be determined by the projector placement which may force a higher than desirable screen height.

[@GenX_in_the_wild]

If even the experts can be wrong from time to time, we are clueless 🙂

[@wzk921109]

In evening & night, I’m perfectly happy with my JMGO ultra just on a white wall.

[@marcalvarado1915]

Call me old or just overly nostalgic but for a home theater you just can’t beat a projector. The reflected light of the projected image just looks way more cinematic than an emissive display like a tv. A home theater with a giant tv is not a theater but a tv room. Fine for video games and the news but for movies give me a projector!

[@TheHookUp]

I think in a pitch black room you'd have a hard time figuring out which screen was a projector and which was a TV.

[@JonathanMaffia]

Amazing video, I love being able to have the audio in Spanish which is my native language.

[@larsmadsen8678]

Good video, I have exactly this consideration. I would probably pick the tv, but I'm not sure I could get it down the stairs. Hmm.

[@dobiesj]

Interesting comparison. But given the price of the projectors with screen a better comparison would be the 98” QM8 which has better picture quality.

[@TheHookUp]

I disagree. Not only is the QM8 a different image processor so it would have been nearly impossible to match picture options, but it's also not true 100", and it's almost $6000 which would have made it by far the most expensive option. Do you really think the QM8 is 3x better than the U76N to support the 3x price increase? If anything the Hisense U8N would have been a good pick, but again I'm not sure the added dimming zones are worth a $1200 price increase on a $1800 TV.

[@dobiesj]

@TheHookUp The 98” QM8 has been on sale multiple times for $2999. The 98” QM7 is on sale now for $1999 and is better than the U76N. Both of these TVs cost a lot less than the these projector setups. Calibration settings will be different on each so the goal shouldn’t be to match the processors between projectors and a QLED but rather to determine which offers the best picture for the price. Projectors used to be the bee’s knee for large viewing starting at 100”. That’s no longer the case with affordable QLEDs in the 98” or 100” size, outside specific use cases - example, can’t get the TV in the room/dwelling or dedicated light controlled home theater room.

[@mjrtensepian1727]

I prefer the cinematic experience, and reflected light of a projector; seems easier on the eyes than direct light of TV. Also less intrusive than a giant black rectangle; Been feeling nostalgic for an era when life wasn't consumed by the "black mirror", and their presence in a room was limited to 20-odd inches in the corner.

[@pfurrie]

Rob, I appreciate how you do a comparison, and then *don't* end it with something like "All these would be fine for anybody, depending on your needs." You make a definitive choice, and explain why one might be better than another. Thanks! Of course, your science-first approach to the analysis is spot-on. You're leveling the tests, taking removing variables so you can measure products and technologies on an equal footing. And we get to *see* what you're talking about, not just see a talking head; more showing, less telling. My only suggestion: talk a *liilte* bit slower? Product comparison suggestion: Smart LED wafer lights. RGBW types, and controllable by Home Assistant. Preferably those that are no thicker than the ceiling drywall, so ceiling joist locations aren't a concern. And give some testing to longevity of the lights (my Lumary lights are failing after less than two years).

[@TheHookUp]

Longevity is unfortunately SO hard to test. By the time I complete a 1 year longevity test it's likely that the product will have changed significantly enough to make the original tests invalid (PCB redesigns, model number changes, etc).

[@ryankramer]

I kinda like the current talking pace. Can always change the playback speed to x.75 in the settings if you want. ^_^

[@ntt2k]

I agree with not changing the talking pace. For most KZbinrs, I actually have to speed-up the playback. But his pace seems perfect. Let's face it .. 17min is a long time to sit through a review video. But he does a good job being thorough

[@pfurrie]

@@TheHookUp Difficult: yep, insofar as just setting it up. Fortunately, not much care and feeding after that. Could gather actual "on" time from metrics within Home Assistant in order to get accurate data without as much fuss. As far as usefulness... if I'm going to put in a dozen or more of these kinds of lights (I installed 16), then its nice not to have to change out the lot of them after a year if they start going bad. They're not like screw-in bulbs that can be swapped out in 30 seconds. Would take me at least five minutes per light to change these out, and that is going quickly... if I have to change out the fixture and the associated power supply, which is wired in. If just one went bad and I had to do that (which I already did one), that isn't too bad, as long as a similar brand/model light is used. But if I determine that one brand is flawed, it might necessitate changing to some other brand. And will want all of them on the same brand, so they match in terms of light output, color temp, color rendering, and other visible features. Very non-trivial. Rtings.com does longevity tests of TVs (www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results) as this is a critical aspect of a purchase decision. Granted, TVs cost more than one LED downlight, but buying 16 lights at ~$30 each adds up to just south of $500, putting it in the same league as plenty TVs out there. If my TV started crapping out at 13 months in, I'd be bummed that I hadn't heeded Rtings.com's longevity tests for a given brand.

[@triplerinse]

Only thing I would add to logistics for a projector over a tv is speaker placement. Projector you can get an acoustic transparent screen and place speakers behind the screen

[@TheHookUp]

True, but UST also has the issue of going where your center channel would typically be.

[@adamserwacki3610]

@@TheHookUp As someone with a giant center, this is one of the biggest reasons i haven't gone UST

[@triplerinse]

@TheHookUp yes good point. Standard throw projector for the win then. Lol

[@vlycop7404]

I know this is wrong, but i feel validated by this video for my choice of picking up the pro 2 :D But i'm still waiting for it, 2 month to go i think

[@MindOverMatter38]

Just got mine px3 pro today. I got a vividstorm s pro floor riser screen for 2600. It’s being made and will ship in a week or so. Not sure if going that expensive on a screen will be worth it or not. But i didn’t want to be in the damn i wish i woulda boat.

[@gregarega]

I got this exact setup 1 week ago and I love it. It is not as good in daylight as I hoped but I'll use it in dark only so no problem there. In the dark it is AMAZING.

[@BrandonDoyleMN]

It seems like the size of the box and standard doorframes is the biggest limitation to making TVs even bigger. I’ve seen a trend away from theater rooms towards media areas where a TV is better utilized due to more light. That being said we love our home theater with 120 inch screen but it sure wasn’t cheap

[@sunnyd6291]

Eye fatigue is the biggest problem with tvs as they are direct lit so the light burns your eyes out... ive had the best led tvs and its a massive issue i now have px3 pro and enjoy watching for longer... laser tv all day long

[@leapingtortoise]

The main thing to remember is that most HDR content and modern movies are quite dark for reasons and stuff

[@NeilPartridge-x3q]

Am i right in thinking the Valerion doesn't need an ALR screen if used only in a darkened room?

[@larryseibold4287]

I am wondering if I can buy the Hisense QLED without the Smart OS and its troublesome user agreements, having just HDMI inputs like Sony or Samsung TVs?

[@TheHookUp]

Show me sony or samsung TVs that do not have a smart OS… The inclusion of google TV streamlines certification for dolby vision, HDR10+ and IMAX Enhanced, so I don’t see them offering a version without it since it would cost them more money in the end.

[@larryseibold4287]

@@TheHookUp wow. you seem to be correct. I did not know that the change had swept through the entire market. I guess i am stuck with dealing with manually blocking (ACR) and maybe using a streaming stick to minimize adds, but still get updates to the HW now and again. Hopefully I dont have to "agree" to anything when powering things up, just to use a Roku or Google HDMI stick. Consumer rights really seem to be suffering these days, with very little choice. I appreciate the review.

[@dunnst]

I got a used Epson 6040UB (850 bucks) with a manual 150 inch drop down screen (250 bucks), so if you compromise a bit, it does not have to be that much expensive 🙂 I also have a 55 inch oled TV, which is where I watch the majority of the content. Only movies and certain TV shows go on the projector and only when it is dark outside. Projectors are imho only a secondary screen to a TV, I think a TV will always look better, but I did meet some people, that like the cinema-like image from a projector more.

[@sinjinadams2862]

I'm going to comment before I watch this video. I just recently purchased an AWOL 3500 UST Projector with a floor rising 120" screen. This is replacing a 75" Sony Bravia 3DTV. I also own an 86" LG TV. I can 100% say that the picture quality of my projector is not close to that of my TV's. For me I bought the projector for one reason, 3D. If it had not been for the fact that TV's no longer support 3D, I would have 100% chosen a 100" TV. I don't hate the projector, the 3D is great and the 120" screen is awesome but when it comes to the picture quality , it's not even close.

[@TheHookUp]

PX3-Pro is a huge step up over the LTV-3500 in terms of contrast and image processing, so it comes a little closer to TVs, but I think you'll see in the video that for black levels nothing beats a TV.

[@th0master]

Great comparison! Maybe next time compare against an OLED

[@tunngadgets]

This is a really great video! I've been following your content for a long time. I have a question: How does the Valerion Pro2 paired with a Fresnel screen compare to a TV? Personally, I use a Fresnel screen with the Hisense C2 Ultra, and it works well as a TV replacement, even in a room with ambient light. However, in a completely dark room, I feel that the projector's brightness is too high.

[@TheHookUp]

You can turn the projectors laser level down. As to how the Valerion with a fresnel compares to a TV, that is the entire subject of the video you commented on.

[@Plektrum911]

@13:00 unless you got an AVR, that manages all possible Input devices, then you need just one longer HDMI cable.

[@curtisbme]

One additional issue if you are looking for main screen in dedicated space with surround sound, speakers are an issue too as you can put them behind a screen but not a TV. For a very large screen (115+) you might not even have room on the sides and or the bottom for a tv.

[@cr0ft-2k]

ALR screens generally don't do audio transparency; they use a textured surface to produce the ALR performance, and making perforations in those screens is probably not happening. AT screens can also cause enormous amounts of laser speckle on some triple lasers.

[@vapormodel]

Only 1 minute in and I see the Valerion has quiet the white bars on top and bottom going on here in the images. I havent had a tv in over 10 years since pjs are so good but when it comes to contrast you cant beat a tv.

[@jarkkoaitti287]

why did the green face go to mostly brown or almost gray in many scenes for both "pro" screens?

[@KarenWright-v6p]

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[@walterverbeeck6929]

I purchased a calibrated Formovie Theater Premium with a German 100 inch Celexon Home Cinema Plus motorized floor projection screen. This is such a great combination with zero speckles, bright and sharp pictures. There is one thing that's never mentioned, furniture for UST projectors, with and without motorized floor projection screens. I see a lot of adds from Shore UST Projector Cabinets and Salamander, maybe you can try such UST cabinets out?

[@TheHookUp]

I think I’d need to rent a warehouse for that video

[@janmaycuts4827]

hey bro ,,, one thing which i can guarente is .... we can stare at any scene and watch it closely very comfortably in a projected image . BUt in tv you cant stare or watch anything without rubbing your eyes. if you look at anything very close . secondly ,, A reflected light or image is always less harmfull for eyes . then any direct light coming from a tv . if you b love your eyes ,,, go for projector. thirdly ,, watching tv can can give headache and blinking eyes to people who dont have perfect vision or eye probs. projector can be tolerated more .

[@TheHookUp]

I used to say all those same things, but I can tell you that after sitting in a dark garage for an entire week watching the different screens they just do not apply anymore. 1. The TV did not cause any more eye strain than the projector 2. Reflected laser light sources are just as bright and have the same effects on the eyes as a backlit TV 3. DLP RBE and Tri-Laser Speckle are associated with significantly more headaches/flickering issues than LCD panels. I love projectors, I use them all over my house, but I also value the truth and after a significant amount of testing those 3 "Projector vs TV" myths no longer hold up.

[@PierreLeroy76620]

Did i miss where we compare to power consumption of the two ? I do remember someone saying TV are less efficient than Projecteur but never did the comparaison.

[@PuneetDhir-x4k]

I saw that rivan ! Do a rivan review! Plz

[@BaneWilliams]

@4:58 are you sure you've got this setup right? Her skin tone is literally brown on the PX3-PRO, and the intentional green on the U76N

[@apocalypseap]

Good catch. Yeah, that looks way inaccurate. Should be fixable with setting adjustments...? I think the TV is a bit *too* green, though, where the Valerion is more accurate.

[@BaneWilliams]

@@apocalypseap It depends on what you mean? I care more about artists intent than my own perceptions, which is why I use a reference monitor for colour work. Viewing this video (yes youtube compression does cause some loss here) and directly comparing it to universal pictures own released trailer footage, I would say the U76N is the superior accuracy. You can see more of the sky, the skin colour is accurate (it's still quite brown in the valerion, but nowhere near as bad as the PX3-PRO). This is why I prefer referencing parts of movies in reviews which are also in trailer footage. If you view the Wicked Official Trailer at 18 seconds in, you will see a perfect scene to showcase this accuracy. It has blues, reds, and greens and any viewer should be able to make a comparison.

[@apocalypseap]

@ In the dark scenes, the TV is way too green shifted. That's what I mean.

[@miketerpening3880]

TheHookup Can you review the Happrun JQ820? They are claiming 1,000 ANSI Lumens. Can you measure it and show what 1,000 ANSI lumens would look like compared to a 3,000 Lumens listed projector please. It would be nice to see a conversion of ANSI to regular Lumens on a set size screen.

[@peterd2803]

I got a valerion visionmaster pro 2 from kickstarter. I could tested it for around 2 weeks now but what nobody tells you that it can have a kind of beeping which is most loud on theater and cinema mode and when Ultra sharp mode is on. So this is so disturbing to me that I will sell the valerion in the near future. Unfortunately valerion themselve answered to me that this is in a normal range...

[@blackcaesar8387]

The writing was on the wall for USTs 2-3 years ago when we got the first 98/100inch TV under 10K. Even then, I never dreamed they will drop to 2k and less withing 2 years. Now we have 115in HIGH END miniled tvs approaching the price high end hometheater projectors. Edit: You don't buy UST for a completely dark room, so the situations where it outperforms a TV is moot. . There are cheaper traditional long throw project like epson 5050UB that will also dominate a dark room.

[@RedRocket415]

Where are the Valerion's manufactured? Wondering how tariffs will impact pricing.

[@TheHookUp]

China. Everything is made in China.

[@supergrissi]

If you have a AV-Receiver, all you need is one HDMI cable to your projector. All your consoles and other stuff you can connect to the receiver...

[@MrRobaloAmigo]

I'm curious how the L9Q with its dedicated screen would fare in this comparison. Does such a projector have a chance to at least give a substitute for a TV? Probably even if it does, it will be loud as hell at this (maximum) brightness.

[@TheHookUp]

The problem isn’t really brightness as much as ambient light rejection. The Valerion gave a much brighter feel than the TV in a dark room despite having 1/3 the peak brightness. The L9Q uses a super high gain screen, but I think the answer is actually high brightness + very low gain.

[@BenTusa]

Once TV's are capable of being acoustically transparent, then maybe I'll look at giving up my projector 🤣

[@balexandre]

What is the movie with the "green'ish" woman?

[@TheHookUp]

Wicked

[@tristanedwards9730]

Any advice?? Bought the JMGO N1s Ultra a couple months ago. Built in google tv has been a huge pain. Max, Paramount +, and Peacock all stuck at pause when attempting to stream. Decided to buy a Firestick 4K Max and stream content through that instead, now the content streams fine, but with no volume on the projector. Can’t seem to figure out any solution.

[@TheHookUp]

You mean the volume is too low with the firestick? That is not a problem I've encountered. On the firestick go to settings -> audio -> surround sound and set to PCM. That may fix the issue.

[@fsugrad03]

From your last video, I thought you implied an acoustic white screen was best for the Valerian Pro 2?

[@TheHookUp]

If you are looking to completely eliminate laser speckle, yes. If you want maximum performance with some laser speckle the Valerion Fresnel is definitely best.

[@ssab9063]

​@@TheHookUp The laser speckle on the Valerion is REAL.

[@fsugrad03]

@@TheHookUpThanks for the clarification. I purchased a screen from your last video, using your link. Fingers are crossed that it looks great. My Pro 2 arrives next month.

[@bungalowtomcat1]

If you use a white wall or white screen for the projector the image is much better and looks like a TV 📺

[@TheHookUp]

No, an ALR screen will be MUCH closer to a TV image than a white wall.

[@we8463]

How does your JVC NZ800 compare?

[@TheHookUp]

I don’t have an NZ800, just an NZ8, but in a dark room it is better than a TV. In a bright room not so much.

[@DanRichardson]

Do you think there's a market for matte TVs?

[@TheHookUp]

There are a few brands pushing Matte finishes on their bigger models this year. The issue is that the matte finish also diminishes the black level so people who want the highest contrast will still prefer glossy screens.

[@kelownatechkid]

Tv cant do 3D.. Makes the choice easy for movie watching! Projector is a must

[@TheHookUp]

That was covered :)

[@kelownatechkid]

@@TheHookUp yup, very glad you mentioned it!

[@GodfatherNick17]

Please target Rec 709 for these color gamut tests too.

[@TheHookUp]

These will all surpass rec709

[@BaneWilliams]

I will say something that is only mentioned on some review - as someone who owns a smaller model of this hisense TV, you are NEVER going to use peak brightness in a dark space - it will physically hurt your eyes. Myself and guests all physically recoiled in some scenes watching some content that goes from a dark scene instantly to a bright one. I think at this point we can say that the Hisense has excessive brightness and has surpassed a brightness ceiling at least for night time watching with the lights off. Now for daytime watching, that brightness is great.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@BaneWilliams buddy what tv do u have ? I have 1800 Nit Hisense U8 , also 4000 nit Hisense UX . Its tweakable . What - brightness 🔆/ contrast / Black level / Color do u set ? 1, It could be setting issue , 2 It could be tv watching issue , LED n vibrant TVs r best not watching pitch black but sunset 🌆 level dark room , eyes 👀 r mast comfort with light 💡 in the room biologically . 3 sitting too close , more brightness 🔆 volume come to eye . Wonder what yr settings r ! Maybe I can help’ Also there is -- breaking in period u have to let eyes get used to it it takes 2 weeks

[@BaneWilliams]

@@Yoga_Tv_buying Oh it's fine, I've got it all dialled in, but since this review was talking about the max brightness the TV can get I was just making a statement that we might be at the point where as long as a TV can reach that amount of brightness we should stop caring about it as a measurement - since at that level it is actually painful.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@ oh hey I hear ya ! Just wanna help . Cuz ppl come from Projectors often assume TV watching the same . I would too . Cuz human r not set up to watch image too bright in the dark . But human r set to MOST capable watch shows when the environment is actually brighter (mall light ) so in pitch black room --- there are 20X eye rods -- brightness sensor . They will self trigger to OVER BLOWN up the brightness -- in our eyes in dark room . Those sensors r at the ⭕️ surrounding area of Retina outside of focal point . To detect - environment . In case u walk at night u dont trip fall into jungle , also can detect danger . So the soundings in the room just just Tad bit too dim . Suggest u have some warm tone lamp .🪔 at far end of room ruminate . Sounds strange it Puts eyes at Eaze! So it eyes 👀 (pupils micro muscles ) 💪🏼 will focus 🧘🏻 NOT restricting eyes but Try to open more to allow eyes 👀 see more Color . U will see more clear . Yeah often biggest mistake is we don’t realize the Laser tv is reflection , LED tv is light source . The light source is actually fine if --- turn UP the color volume setting . So that we see MORE Color in the dark room instead of Black n white . Thats why those Hisense U8 U9N UX so high end . They have 3-3.5 X color volume 🔮/ Density of LG flagship G4, 1.8-2.2 X Color Density of Sony Flagship A95L Qd-OLED . I suggest u turn down the -- contrast (it controls brightest peak white ) Also drastically turn UP the color . Once the Color Sensity is up 🪼 it’s not bright at all . Yeah I hate those dark scenes then out of blue so bright , they had those in Game of thrones , spooks me lol . Didn’t help they make the dark scenes SOoooo DARK . I wish was brighter lol 😝 Oh ps, excuse my mumbling. That job jab I was talking came from our research professor 👩‍🏫 in lecture . It was so strange at time . lol 😝 she was like “ u will never hear this ever again . I won’t be buying A TV today , u r students . U won’t make money of this lecture but this will help u n family down the road .” I guess it did for me :)

[@NullishConvalescence]

@@BaneWilliamsI like to have at least some dim lamps on, never complete darkness so the ultra bright screens aren’t as jarring

[@luisfranco]

I still have since last year my epson eh-tw7100 which although it's not laser, has 3000 lumens and a great picture even in daylight. And it's cheaper than the 1800 tv... And before that I had a 1100 $ sanyo plv-z700 since 2011 always with a 100'' screen when the tvs were VERY small for that price... Although the tvs are catching up i believe the logistics involved and the reflections are cumbersome. The only tv I would buy would be the Samsung frame because its matte finish and doesn't reflect any light. But these are much more expensive than this hisense. Btw I love your reviews! Keep going!

[@TheHookUp]

I'm happy you love your TW7100, but if you saw it night to the Pro 2 or PX3-Pro you'd be blown away by how much better they are. The issue with Matte screens on TVs is that they spoil the black level and there's some serious pushback to some manufacturers using matte on their higher end screens.

[@TriMuXx]

@@TheHookUp biggest reason I am a fan of Projectors over a Flat Panel TV. So many people ignore the glare ruining the experience on a Flat Panel TV. I'm almost 10 years in to owning a projector and I still haven't looked back. 120" in the living room and Ultra Short Throw projectors in each bedroom. The ONLY flat panels I have are matte computer monitors. Great video. I'm a fan for sure. You also included logistics. So many reviewers have to unbox their 110" Flat Panel TVs outside because they can't get it through the door in the box. Projector screens can be rolled up or broken down, then rolled up and easily moved to the new house/location. Keep up the great work with these videos! I'm so very excited at how far Projection technology has come and can't wait to see what the future holds for Laser TVs/Projectors!

[@nikilragav]

You should test a Carbon Black projector screen