Big Tech MELTS DOWN Over New Chinese A.I. Startup Deepseek

[@pedropalomo79]

Remember 5g when china developed real 5g US named his 4g as 5g

[@Jeffrey_Bezos_Amazon]

The United States is so afraid of China that it uses a ban on the import of chips as its only means of competition. How does the United States want to become great again if it has become a third-world country that is unable to cope with the fires in California and loses its own military aircraft every week due to the fault of the pilots? Trump, you're a great guy, but how are you going to make the United States great again?

[@xmattperkins]

The true issue for Big Tech isn’t that DeepSeek is a Chinese company, it’s that it’s a free open source AI that’s the issue. How are you going to convince users to upgrade to your $20 a month full version of AI when the competitor’s full version is free and is just as powerful as yours? How are you going to convince other companies to pay to use your AI model when they can use DeepSeek’s open source model for free? It’s not just DeepSeek though, ByteDance is also developing their own AI. Whether or not it ends up inside TikTok remains to be seen

[@jrkr7357]

It's 50% over 50% .....

[@Jeffrey_Bezos_Amazon]

The United States is so afraid of China that it uses a ban on the import of chips as its only means of competition. How does the United States want to become great again if it has become a third-world country that is unable to cope with the fires in California and loses its own military aircraft every week due to the fault of the pilots? Trump, you're a great guy, but how are you going to make the United States great again?

[@sinocare]

A Chinese team has achieved another milestone: their artificial sun has maintained 100 million degree C for 1006 seconds. A major step towards near endless free energy. It didn’t even get noticed in the west.

[@araara4746]

Once again China has proven they can produce better products at lower prices.

[@lac2275]

America needs to open their eyes and realize that no sanctions will ever contain the way of the market. It will just buy you time. It's like when America tried to stop the surge of Japanese cars in the 80s, the market eventually said the final word.

[@vng]

It is not the models that worry Nvidia... it is the technique in which Deepseek used to finetune another base model. It shows that models can be finetuned to achieve higher performance in a more efficient way that does not require as much resources as Nvidia wants to sell. Deepseek basically published a paper explaining how they did it and open sourced that stuff so others can build on their research or finetune their models. And if smaller models can achieve the same performance as larger ones, you don't need high-end data center GPUs (expensive!) to run the inference side of things; the smaller models can run on cheaper, consumer-grade hardware.

[@Jeffrey_Bezos_Amazon]

The United States is so afraid of China that it uses a ban on the import of chips as its only means of competition. How does the United States want to become great again if it has become a third-world country that is unable to cope with the fires in California and loses its own military aircraft every week due to the fault of the pilots? Trump, you're a great guy, but how are you going to make the United States great again?

[@marinanjer4293]

US AI: Give me money. China AI: Pass it forward, bro

[@calvin5429]

Westerners stunned as to how China made a better Ai model with sticks and stones!!! Next on sanction list : every single chip including those for washing machines.

[@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179]

China can make those themselves. They have SMIC. They have problems with the new stuff because everyone in the industry (including the Americans, Koreans and Taiwanese) use photo lithography machines made by some Dutch company and the US pressured the Netherlands into not selling them to China (making the Netherlands lose billions by the way). But as with this the Chinese will find a solution in due time and they'll be making high tech chips themselves (they already did one for the Huawei phones, we'll see if that's scalable)

[@davidwong5197]

@@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179 ASML is in partnership to build it in China.

[@4idhero798]

China trolled Trump's Stargate with Deepseek.

[@elroxerfroster367]

They said china copied all their military weapons. But when china doesn't copy anything, then they end up building something more good.

[@Dattobayo]

Trying to strangle China with chips embargo and evolution happened. Creativity arises from constraints. They had to make due with less and they figured out how.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

The bigger problem is that the chip ban is forcing China to make its own chips, and if we look at the other industries where they're "forced" to make their own stuff (solar PV, wind, nukes, EVs), it'll take about 5 years for them to dominate the market.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

"Creativity arises from constraints." Very good.

[@Kyuestma]

Happy Chinese New Year 🎉🎉 guys

[@eddymich3192]

More engineers enter the workforce every year in China than there are engineers in USA. This innovation is no surprise. China leads the USA in essential technologies 57 to 7. Even many US experts believe in the long run, China will win the AI race.

[@dutchvanderlinde5004]

America is doomed.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

America still have great friends in Northern Europe.

[@abdelhakkhalil7684]

It's N (EN) Vidia. Sorry but that hurt my ears :D

[@divinelyindifferent]

DeepSeek’s monthly plan for its AI is *40 times* cheaper than OpenAI’s standard price. This suggests that big U.S. tech companies may be grossly inefficient or overcharging consumers far more than what newer, better alternatives in the global market can now offer. Affordable options like DeepSeek and other emerging low-cost open source AI tools are great choices for Americans looking to save money on their AI usage, especially now that budgets are tight for many people. This is legitimately game changing. I’m beginning to understand why DeepSeek is being a called a “profound gift” to the entire world.

[@AP-bo1if]

AI is already free to use and works well for most things

[@littlemissdimples88]

Wake up call for silicon Valley 😱

[@kittydukakis]

The US kneecaps China, so it has to use inferior and cheaper chips. Chinese companies still need to compete. So, in spite of having cheaper chips, they figured out how to create a better LLM that matches the US's- except it's cheaper. So you see what's causing the problem here.

[@wzt9376]

Hilarious this all thing is hilarious. Looking at Jensen and Nvidia crumbling after acting like "We are the greatest, don't like it get used to it" that reality check is awesome 😂😂😂.

[@danielmankinde1706]

Deep seek uses nvidia. They need nvidia

[@wzt9376]

@danielmankinde1706 lol you haven't understood the issue then try to think why Nvidia lost billions then. I am not giving you the answer think for yourself.

[@BradleyMountford]

Just FYI, it's spelled NVIDIA but pronounced "envidia".

[@ArturoGarzaID]

That’s how you know they don’t invest.

[@KevinAssalin]

You cant contain a 1.4B people country...thats just dumb

[@littlemissdimples88]

You can contain them if the citizens weren't Chinese. But let's be honest the Chinese are smart and driven. Not a genetic thing but more cultural

[@jordanlml]

“China did something better!” Okay? So what? Are we in the 1960’s or something? I can’t think of something to give less of a shit about. My rent and health insurance went up again, my wages didn’t.

[@FreedomToRobandLoot]

The USA government failed its people.

[@Istvantastic]

Cost of developing AI in China was so much cheaper because of all the overpaid executives in America and underpaid employees in China

[@Babylonbodega]

The tech workers in China make about 4000 dollars pr month. So they do get paid for their work. But as you pointed out ..the greed in America has been weakening it for years and years.

[@zhc2200]

More like greed in America is ASTOUNDING than anything.

[@DarahanDhesi]

Agreed. Corruption in Silicon Valley is another possibility making prices up just like pharmaceutical products

[@DouglasW-m9z]

@@Istvantastic but better than slavery in America

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

You forgot all the shareholders in America who need their slice of the pie.

[@wataric1600]

Playing dirty to kneecap others...the forte of d American empire

[@HarveyChenBlog]

China: deepseek! World: deepshock! OpenAI: deepwreck! Investors: deepshit! American politicians: deepsick! 😂😂😂😂

[@LordofLaughs]

Shout out to Tom Cotton

[@petersmangalisongoma2013]

Sir, you are genius 🤣🤣🤣 you made my day

[@reubenedwards7383]

Well done China

[@DarahanDhesi]

Imagine using education to teach the young. Nightmare scenario

[@DarahanDhesi]

All things to suit them thus changing religion itself

[@SmithyAnton74]

US’s greed eventually would be its downfall

[@youngnebula187]

That and lack of awareness

[@atarileaf]

As opposed to China's greed?

[@IrfanKhan1]

This is part of slow downfall of US empire

[@youngnebula187]

@@atarileaf China learned from the best 🇺🇲 ... Remember 40 or 60 years ago Western civilization laughed at them...

[@Dalvecc]

​@@youngnebula187very true

[@markdc1145]

China: 😁 US: 😭 EU: 😴

[@araara4746]

China: DeepSeek US: DeepShit EU: DeepSleep

[@PakistanIcecream000]

@@araara4746 China: DeepSeek US: DeepShit EU: DeepSleep India: Dikshit

[@samuelbennington6728]

It was only a matter of time before there was a mainstream Chinese AI company

[@BuntFencer]

Navidia? Please check with a geek before trying to report on tech world.

[@marcosolo6491]

*"Please check with a geek"* Or at least with any 10 year old.

[@MaJoRMJR]

I'm starting to think the reason the media fearmonger about China is because people might realise how efficient they are. Granted, there are problems with China, but the way the can fix infrastructure is mind-blowing (the difference between their slavery and what we have, wage slavery, wouldn't make such a noticeable difference to us, the rich on the other hand...)

[@tino.saurier233]

Media just repeats the Propaganda and lies of the facist chinese communist party and repeats it unchecked - sad.

[@SadmanRyanRiad]

True

[@dangerzone9747]

CHINA #1

[@te41157]

The US tech industry is something like an economic oligarchy, which is probably not the best for rapid innovations but rather for giant economic bubbles and misallocations. Ironically the Chinese tech market looks more like a free market nowadays in terms of competition.

[@GEOTHERMALHEAT0]

Vivek ramaswamy was right in calling Americans stupid and uneducated compared to Asians , and this proves it among many other things Most Americans would want to be just entertainers in KZbin or whatever " content creators" and not focus on other things

[@telescopicS627]

Jez, bro, give the racism a rest

[@mdyusufulhaque9953]

Only China has not India Pakistan or any other

[@cehuffman]

Agreed! He got criticism for his one truth!

[@lynnettepolanco8914]

you pronounce it N Vidia not ne-vidia

[@jkelley198511]

IN vidia... Not Nividia... Say it with me 😂😂😂

[@otherZinc]

Facts! Stop believing things from a communist nation. Now you're mad because they SAY it didn't cost that much...ok.

[@littlemissdimples88]

I never knew that! Thanks

[@gaspybapinga5291]

Morale of the story is just to see how AI has lost its job to somebody else, afer taking other people's job 😂😂😂

[@DouglasW-m9z]

@@gaspybapinga5291 morale to story is that Americans has been lying to the world unaccountably

[@snapper69996666]

Love it, thank you China

[@tentwentyza]

These oligarchs are so terrible people. They not concerned about China catching-up. I dont think anybody should be concerned about the technological achievment These oligarchs are upset and angry that their Valuations are going to come crashing down. It was obsene that these people wealth was inflated. These oligarchs and their companies can still have the technological edge over China but they have to give up 90% of their wealth. CTRL+ALT+DEL ALTMAN wil have to contend with being a poor oligarch valued at $10MILLION dolllars instead of $110billion . BOO HOO

[@xybavh6575]

Facebook copied and killed MySpace

[@runePV]

america: 'when you can't beat them; fight them'. europe: 'when you can't beat them; join them'

[@Sikyo__daya]

i remember this one time i felt like no matter what i did, people just didn’t notice me. i tried everything-confidence boosters, social tips, you name it-but nothing seemed to work. then i found this book, Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, and it completely shifted how i saw myself. it’s not just about being noticed; it’s about understanding the energy you project. honestly, this book made all the difference for me. if you’ve ever felt invisible, you need to read it.

[@JeremyWade-z2n]

I use Nividia everyday on my skin and I look 20 years younger. This is causing a crash in cosmetic surgery stocks.

[@davidramlagan533]

And just like that, American tech companies are overvalued

[@whafrog]

Ana, it's "en-vidia", not "nuh-vidia"...

[@rotorbob]

I know. That was painful to listen to 😂

[@corner559]

This channel has a history of not taking the time to learn how to pronounce a number of words and names correctly. It's not difficult.

[@markmuller7962]

​@@corner559To me it's puzzling that anyone (let alone a journalist) doesn't know Nvidia

[@kah-vl8ti]

@@markmuller7962very embarrassing. Hard to take anyone seriously on anything when they can’t pronounce NVIDIA correctly.

[@jessyrocks5640]

Usa such a hater fr 😂

[@Owen2308]

It's almost like monopolies don't produce the best stuff...

[@mal6297]

Guys NVIDIA is not american it is taiwanese where people speak chinese because it is part of China

[@nolanko1265]

It’s American. The CEO is a Taiwanese American. But the company is American. Stop your prejudice against Asian Americans. Or else you’ll drive them into the arms of China.

[@月影CHR]

😂you mean tsmc

[@scottwong426]

Nvidia is purely American Company period. Just because the CEO is a Chinese American does not mean its a Chinese Company. What differentiate America from China is that America promotes democracy the best it can and of course its not perfect. China on the other promotes and protects the interest of the Communist party. Patriotic Chinese thinking is that All Chinese are part of the Motherland ; which is Chinese people and the country China are inseparable.

[@davidwong5197]

@@scottwong426 US disallow Broadcom merger with Qualcomm because they consider Broadcom a Chinese company because its CEO is Singapore Chinese. TRy defend that. And yes Hock Tan is a naturalized citizen.

[@techguy1911]

If she says “Na” vidia one more time lol… it’s “En” vidia 😂

[@jafermohammed3530]

It's just beyond me how some one can think that blocking any technology from over 1bn well educated people living in a manufacturing hub is possible.

[@Nikitateagurl_77]

Silly Con Valley

[@ccatarinajm7114]

Love this!

[@mykegoh]

...its a free market... What free market? talk is free, when US loses then its sanction or ban.

[@paradigm007]

"Navidia" 😂

[@craserx6267]

shes a woman what do we expect lol

[@broski84]

Bwahahaha.... our greedy american companies cant handle it.... bwahahaha....

[@trenoxspa]

This whole thing feels like an episode of "Silicon Valley"..

[@1chumley1]

Don't forget, AI will soon be a weapon of war more powerful than nukes.

[@BarabraDash]

Ai and Drones 😬🫢 but nukes are great bargaining tools tho 😅 unless skynet 🫢

[@Urza26]

@@BarabraDash If the limit of AI is skynet, it's not too bad. Skynet couldn't win despite having overwhelming tech and pretty much every advantage.

[@adlibruj]

And as usual "necessity is the mother of invention"!

[@PakistanIcecream000]

Constraint is the mother of creativity.

[@FryTheKiddo]

I heard that DeepSeek was created by a Chinese college student using red solo cups and a beach ball 😜

[@Delboy0]

Just wait to you guys find out about quantum computing. That will be the next great technological leap. China and the UK invest more money into this than the USA and it is government funded, but the USA research in this field is purely done by corporations like Google, IBM and NVIDIA. Whoever makes the breakthrough on this will control the world for the next 500 years, but because the USA research is done by corporations, they are looking more to make it a consumer product to monetise, rather than do the research to make the breakthrough and they are being left behind in this field by the Chinese and the British who are not constantly looking to monetise what they are trying to discover. Capitalism is actually hurting the USA in the tech field.

[@TheAlethianPartyOfficial]

China and the UK are doing everything they are doing with the end goal of making money as well. Don’t be so naive. Our whole species is addicted to money, conditioned by it for 30,000+ years. So thats almost always the end goal, especially in a group of people, private or public.

[@phobosmoon4643]

lol Anna is like 'so we are clear i don't play neh vidiyeh gaymes'

[@hamplus163]

I guess we should open up the wallet to give big tech some more subsidies and tax breaks

[@collegecall007]

What the F is nevidia?

[@tentwentyza]

elon musk missed the boat , and forced america AI companies to slow down and now China cought up

[@darkglass3011]

It's not surprising something like this happened. In the Gaming industry, Western Game developers aren't very efficient when it comes to software, so they make up for their shortcomings with superior hardware. Asian Game developers on the other hand optimize the performance of their games, so they get much more out of limited hardware than their Western counterparts.

[@gx240yt]

Did anyone else notice that all discussion of AI "regulation" in the US stopped the exact second a successful Chinese AI company emerged? Did you notice the media immediately stopped criticizing AI as soon as China started supporting it? Do you get it now? Do you see who they work for?

[@JD-yz4kr]

China already enacted laws on AI. The US was invited by China to join in an international forum to enact AI regulations but the US did not want any constraints for itself

[@MiddleMart-b5y]

Deepseek is better than any other AI Model, fast and accurate

[@hanrenfighterjet]

not to mention doesn't take up 30000 nvidia chips to use

[@onedavid-z7y]

deepseek is the new chinese god of AI

[@harleyb.birdwhisperer]

This is the latest version of Sputnik. That beeping basketball went up and everybody wet their knickers over the ‘Russian space dominance’ It was a puddle - 40 feet wide, but only 1/8 inch deep.

[@Equ1n0x88]

2:45 she pronounces it "NE vidia" instead of "EN vidia" ... nice to see you have grandma on your team Cenk!

[@ryanlindner8665]

You guys are pronouncing NVidia wrong. 😂. It’s all good.

[@Stonecold724]

Yeah. It’s “en-VID-ee-ah”.

[@michaell8722]

Some American tech firms are lying (or stupid or greedy) probably a good mixture of all three.. it goes to show build a better trap get smarter mice..

[@kevindsmith10000]

If you don't think this will get the tik tok treatment here you've lost your mind. Big tech will try to put those walls back up on their garden. Keeping the largest consumer country having to use American company tech again.

[@grtinfulleffect8349]

Scammers got out scammed.

[@taz09216]

We love you 🇨🇳 china ❤ the world stands with you.😊

[@lawrence208]

fuck china

[@coolshawn200956]

The big issue is that these CEOs spent too much in Mar-a-Lago and at the Capital when they should be with their engineers improving efficiency and outcomes.

[@davidwong5197]

MAYbe they need younger people with better idea, The entire Deepseek engineers have less than 2 years of experience

[@CHARLIEBrownz]

Deep seek is amazing!!!

[@4idhero798]

Trump's Stargate came and went.

[@NinjaSaitama]

Straight into a wormhole.

[@sureshots98]

Odds AI kills us all. 96% an AI gave that answer.

[@kah-vl8ti]

Incredible to watch two people do a news show and not know how to pronounce the name of one of the most consequential companies in world history 😂.

[@hortenciac878]

Yes. Ive heard it from several people in their 20's, that most people their age want to be influencers or gamers.

[@12thmonkeyy]

How sad! It honestly makes me sick

[@stayfree870]

China is able to do this without firing a single shot. "Let China sleep; when she wakes she will shake the world". ~ Napoleon Bonaparte

[@tonygunk1886]

It's not called "Neh" Vidia.. it's called "N" Vidia lol

[@UmarKhan-jm2pp]

That’s ur take away from this?

[@Voxabonable]

The first ever question I put to Deepseek was "please explain your integrity model". And it was comprehensive.

[@garzila]

People are scared like they have skin in the game

[@anneanne9009]

This is what happens when you allow your countries greatest minds to earn max dollars doing what they love! This was created by a hedge fund team!

[@DanielMoonterey]

Мир не заботится о Силиконовой долине, человечество нуждается в искусственном интеллекте, чтобы решить большинство проблем, с которыми он боролся на протяжении веков. Если Соединенные Штаты не могут конкурировать с Китаем в области искусственного интеллекта и в то же время запрещают экспорт чипсов в Китай, то Соединенные Штаты определенно ведет себя преступно к человечеству. Мир нуждается в мощном искусственном интеллекте для решения проблем с болезнями, и Соединенные Штаты не могут справиться с этой задачей. Перенесите инициативу в Китай. Соединенные Штаты долгое время не были великой страной, Трамп должен смириться с этим. Во -первых, узнайте, как выпускать пожары, не теряя треть территории штата, и узнайте, как обычно пилотировать свои самолеты (они рушатся каждую неделю), и только тогда вы будете говорить о конкуренции с Китаем в области искусственного интеллекта.

[@Morgan-u5t]

Yes, you're right, the United States has long been a third world country.

[@Mary_Lee_Bianchi]

Trump will have to turn himself inside out to at least close the gap with China.

[@Leo_Lulu]

AI is not a hobby of the USA. The great USA is the Reagan era, it has passed, Americans accept this.

[@Eminem_Sllim_Shady]

It pains Americans to admit defeat.

[@Lilli_Vanili]

Sam Altman woke up to this news in a cold sweat: he had already dreamed of investing 500 muzzles, but then China leaked it. Sam was thinking of making money, but Shin Jin Ping intervened.🤣

[@ovt8454]

bro its N pause Vidia 😭

[@henryibekwe1073]

"It is important not to worship what is known, but to question it" ~ J. Bronowski

[@ericcoskun1]

Spend $10million to develop, give it to the world for free as open source, wipe over $1 trillion off US Tech market cap. I'd say thats a pretty good ROI. And I can guarantee that the hedge fund that is funding Deepseek just made $billions by shorting NVIDIA stock.

[@theradiantchild]

Seems like a scam to me. Market manipulation by China. Nvidia will bounce back quickly

[@davidwong5197]

Deepseek is a hedge fund company

[@davidwong5197]

@@theradiantchild Market manipulation means pump and dump.

[@azharuddinredwan9332]

It is En Vidia not nividia

[@kienanho5257]

On the eve of the New Year of the Snake, a Chinese intellectual donates his invention to humanity, to make it a level playing field for all.

[@Ryanz1971]

Those worries created by the AI guys are lies to accumulate more money. We will save you and go to sleep.

[@chiluxr250]

It's "N"-vidia not NAVIDIA!

[@synchron9019]

Now NVidia will sell their chips not only to the big players but to every little player in this game. This will be a big boost in sales 🤑🤑🤑

[@koolapope]

Ppl will buy less because it’s proven it’s not necessary

[@WalidsTube]

@@koolapope yes but now the infrastructure is (financially) accessible to more companies, than the just the 3-4 huge ones. the latter will lose a lot of competitive advantages. what's the point of a company that can't afford a multi hundred million dollars investment but can afford $5M to get it's own in house infra to continue to pay those 4-3 (aka OpenAI etc.) to access theirs? and chip manufacturer like Nvidia, lose now but could still continue to win big if those new player companies decide to enter the infra game

[@matthewmarkus2495]

​@@koolapopeI dont think so. The extra compute always helps. I am 100% sure the Chinese guys would have bought the higher end chips if they could.

[@warren51235]

"Anthony Poo, who has an unfortunate name..." 😂

[@rocket4359]

🤣🤣bro

[@divinelyindifferent]

OpenAI's revenue model hinges on HUMAN user subscriptions. If American consumers choose a cheaper, superior competitor like DeepSeek, then OpenAI's current business model could collapse, potentially signaling doom for other high-priced American AI companies. This is how markets work, though. Just like a company might offshore labor that is cheaper to be more cost-effective, American consumers can save money by using offshore AI solutions. It works *both* ways.

[@ilyafoskin]

Yeah, it seems like these AI companies and the American government weren't interested in doing things the free market way while they had the monopoly on the best hardware. US companies lost a lot of stock value over this, maybe they will ban DeepSeek in the US in a panic next. It's starting to become clear that the US is not ready for overseas competition from rising superpowers and I'm a little worried that they will turn to aggressive militaristic measures to maintain the market capital of US companies.

[@tentwentyza]

Its not about china having a better chip its that Oligarchs having to cut profits

[@SuryaSurya-re3vn]

Exactly!!

[@SuryaSurya-re3vn]

I’m just wondering, if the Russian scientists and engineers collaborate with China brightest minds in science and technology, what kind of products they can produce to the world.

[@davidwong5197]

Or US just deport all the Chinese engineers.

[@dborg56]

Ana. N Vidia Not Nividia. Really!