Making custom heater pads and then destroying one

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@therealchayd
@therealchayd Жыл бұрын
Unnecessarily complex proposal, but if you made 4 x 7 segment shaped arrays of these (with the appropriate drivers) then coated it with thermochromic paint , you'd end up with a really funky clock!
@therealchayd
@therealchayd Жыл бұрын
...also, you could leave off the thermochromic paint, and have a clock that you could only read with an IR camera 🤣
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
The seconds might be a bit slow to respond though!!
@peetiegonzalez1845
@peetiegonzalez1845 Жыл бұрын
That's a really cool (!) idea.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 Жыл бұрын
@@therealchayd Yes yes! I was thinking about a nitinol wire installation which would heat up and show the time only in IR. :D
@mckryall
@mckryall Жыл бұрын
Someone has made this with pcb traces as the heaters, I believe it was a thermochromic panel
@SiaVids
@SiaVids Жыл бұрын
For scientific reasons the failure mode always needs to be investigated. 😎
@ferolcat2009
@ferolcat2009 Жыл бұрын
Always, he needs to test it's pop freshhold.. :)
@arthurmann578
@arthurmann578 Жыл бұрын
Most definitely...you know...for safety reasons! 😁👍👍
@ferolcat2009
@ferolcat2009 Жыл бұрын
@@arthurmann578 Of course.. ;)
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri Жыл бұрын
Is probably air entering at the place where it firstbreaks the lamination and oxygen allowing the car bon fibers to oxidise in a path where the pouch first bulges.
@tubaman66
@tubaman66 Жыл бұрын
Appears to have the same failure mode as most electronics - ie once the smoke escapes it stops working.
@karllangeveld6449
@karllangeveld6449 Жыл бұрын
FYI, the copper tape can be found in diy stores as snail deterrent tape
@Dazzwidd
@Dazzwidd Жыл бұрын
hahaha snail deterrent at 240V AC There's a new video for Clive 🤣
@Dazzwidd
@Dazzwidd Жыл бұрын
@@YoureUsingWordsIncorrectly I think a microwave oven transformer connected to copper strips on the ground would be better. Set up a camera
@manolisgledsodakis873
@manolisgledsodakis873 Жыл бұрын
Darn, he didn't measure the smoking temperature with the pyrometer camera thingy! Now he'll have to do it again.
@chizzt
@chizzt Жыл бұрын
Self adhesive copper tape is also used for making stained glass. Craft shps sell it.
@galaxya40s95
@galaxya40s95 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, going to buy one. Not sure when I will be able to get my hands on the carbon fibre mesh. But at least it will help get rid of the snails and slugs in the meantime.
@Chris_Linsell
@Chris_Linsell Жыл бұрын
Hi Clive I feel we missed out a learning point with not bringing back in the thermal imaging during testing to destruction!
@BenKonosky
@BenKonosky Жыл бұрын
Yes, this test needs to be run again, with the thermal imager running. For science!
@danisgay100
@danisgay100 Жыл бұрын
And the max power, amps volts watts it can take before self destruction
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 Жыл бұрын
If you want carbon fiber with more repeatable properties, either use woven stuff or sandwich a few layers together at different angles.
@bluevanman2008
@bluevanman2008 Жыл бұрын
Come on Clive, we really wanted to see it connected to the mains via a variac.. 😁🤪
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
when he suggested making three strips I instantly thought "Yes! connect it to three-phase!!" ;-))
@Alabaster335
@Alabaster335 Жыл бұрын
stick it on Photon's capacitor
@abcdefgh1279
@abcdefgh1279 Жыл бұрын
@@stepheneyles2198 all we have to do now is decide whether we want it connected in a star or triangle configuration 😉
@Fixerbob
@Fixerbob Жыл бұрын
Oh come on Clive get out the quick test !
@annoloki
@annoloki Жыл бұрын
You get little sparks where the individual strands meet the copper, knocking out those strands somehow... this shifts more current to the remaining strands, causing them to die out more quickly, until the connection between the copper and the carbon is completely broken. Not sure why, maybe it's the plastic melting by the heat and causing insulation, but it doesn't take much to destroy them
@rpdom
@rpdom Жыл бұрын
Nice! A larger version of this might be what I need to keep my solar batteries warm in winter. The copper tape is available from garden shops as "anti slug tape". I got some for a project last year. I was wondering if you ut the tape a bit longer, then folded the end over to cover the sticky side, you could have copper tabs sticking out of the side of the pouch to solder or connect clips to. No need for the holes or removing the sticky.
@Ultrazaubererger
@Ultrazaubererger Жыл бұрын
Having the tape stick out the end might be too delicate. But you could just fold it around the pouch so it ends up on the outside.
@Murgoh
@Murgoh Жыл бұрын
@@Ultrazaubererger Or fold the end for a few millimeters so the non-adhesive side is visible at the holes.
@lezbriddon
@lezbriddon Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking this may be a way to make A4 sized heater plates for stopping water freezing. I've already ripped up an electric blanket to get the heater wire to wind round the pipes.
@brandonakey6616
@brandonakey6616 Жыл бұрын
Never change Clive. Love your channel.
@gertbenade3082
@gertbenade3082 Жыл бұрын
Noticble that the area of the pad where the thermal imager recorded higher temperatures, started melting first. Probably irregular weave or the addition of more schmoke particles by the manufacturer.😂 What a great way to start the weekend, thanks Clive! 🔥💥
@evilmonkeywithissues
@evilmonkeywithissues Жыл бұрын
This is actually an awesome visualisation of what a carbon film resistor is/does. Just imagine it shrunken down and shoved into some ceramic (also with a cheaper conductive metal).
@fouzaialaa7962
@fouzaialaa7962 Жыл бұрын
thats actually a genius idea to have a heater with a huge surface area !! i was contemplating the whole power resistor strapped to a huge meal sheet , but this is way better i have to substitute the carbon fibre for something else i can actually get in my country
@thematey3592
@thematey3592 Жыл бұрын
I see a butter dish warmer project on my "to do" list. No more demolishing the bread 🍞 😁. Thank's Clive, awesome video.
@lmcshera
@lmcshera Жыл бұрын
If you warm your butter dish from the bottom the whole block will just slide about. Using one hot straight from the dishwasher taught me this
@galaxya40s95
@galaxya40s95 Жыл бұрын
​@@lmcshera I think the idea is to keep the heating on low power, but permanently (or perhaps based on room temperature) and heat up the butter slowly. Just to keep it soft enough to spread, increasing the temperature by 5-10°C (above room) should be enough.
@galaxya40s95
@galaxya40s95 Жыл бұрын
If the butter dish has a lid, then perhaps have a strip around the butter, not touching it, but rather radiating.
@CountryGeek-hr8tk
@CountryGeek-hr8tk Жыл бұрын
No need to warm the butter, just use a cheese grater with a cold stick of butter to get some on the bread.
@lmcshera
@lmcshera Жыл бұрын
@@Okurka. Lurpak Spreadable with up to 64% butter. Nah I'll pass thanks
@thereare4lights137
@thereare4lights137 Жыл бұрын
Oh Clive, I have an entire garage full of tool and material duplicates from losing, buying, then re-finding. Glad to know im not the only one who does this! 😂
@Ascania
@Ascania Жыл бұрын
When applying the copper tape don't take all the backing off. Just pull back a bit at the end, stick it on and then slowly pull off the backing while sticking the rest of the tape on. That keeps the tape from sticking to anything you don't want it to stick to and also keeps it in an easy to handle shape.
@timteecvhn
@timteecvhn Жыл бұрын
Honestly pretty cool, tho one solution that you didn't mention to the soldering the wires on thing with the adhesive copper tape that you have, is to just stick it onto the other side of the pouch so that the nonadhesive side is already available to the hole instead.
@akompanas
@akompanas Жыл бұрын
You’d have to punch a hole in the carbon fiber then too.
@annoloki
@annoloki Жыл бұрын
Or fold the end of the tape over on itself, to create an unsticky tab at the end.
@brainwater
@brainwater Жыл бұрын
Why use tape? Couldn't you use bare copper wire and have it stick out the bottom a bit? Or do you need the larger surface area to contact the carbon fiber tissue?
@justin.campbell
@justin.campbell Жыл бұрын
This is amazing! I can see so many uses for these, including heating electronics. In cold environments equipment needs heaters inside to keep the electronics at operating temperature, and these little pads seem perfect, you could even place them right under a PCB to heat it. It also seems to have a slight positive temperature coefficient meaning it can't go into thermal runaway.
@gecho194
@gecho194 Жыл бұрын
I've made heated gloves using carbon fiber rope. I originally used 7.4V LiPo packs that came with a pair of commercial gloves. But for the past 2 winters I've been using a USB-C battery with a 9V decoy board, which eliminates the heat fade as the battery voltage drops. To control the output I use a small PWM dimmer. The carbon rope I use has a resistance of 21 ohms per meter. The temperature is a factor of length and voltage, the shorter you make it the hotter it will get. I picked a length that I can plug my gloves straight into a battery and max out at a safe temperature. It has been quite the learning experience as I've had all sorts of failures. I finally settled on copper crimps for the wire to fiber connection. I was still using solder which made the wires brittle and some broke over time from the stress of removing the gloves. At one point I was using fine copper wire wrapped around the carbon and power wire then bonded with solder. But unless the solder is absolutely perfect that connection can act as a coil and get up to 200F! That was a fun surprise, at least carbon cools off very quickly.
@bob9483
@bob9483 Жыл бұрын
You’re a builder and an experimenter clive, thanks for sharing your journey with us
@jkobain
@jkobain Жыл бұрын
Earlier I mentioned a 20W (as they state) 510 screw-on soldering iron. It comes with two spare heaters and three screw-on tips of different shapes (horseshoe, knife and conical). Its impedance is around one Ohm, and it actually works good. I didn't believe in USB soldering irons initially, but you changed my mind radically. Thank you, and thank you again.
@The_Real_Grand_Nagus
@The_Real_Grand_Nagus 5 ай бұрын
I love how you're always aware of the safety of what you're doing.
@linuxgreybeard9945
@linuxgreybeard9945 Жыл бұрын
Your creativity never ceases to amaze me, Clive. Just one of the reasons I enjoy your channel so much.
@garrett69
@garrett69 Жыл бұрын
I think he's lost the containment dish.....
@notahotshot
@notahotshot Жыл бұрын
​@@garrett69 I have asked him about the fire containment pie plate. He only uses it for lithium based fire hazards.
@farmersteve129
@farmersteve129 Жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no need for this... but... oh darnit I've just ordered some anyway 😊
@oljobo
@oljobo Жыл бұрын
👍 How to find it? What is it called? Ebay? Ali Express? If you would be so kind 🙏😊
@beez1598
@beez1598 Жыл бұрын
Stained glass copper tape is a bit thicker and takes to soldering well. The adhesive is also quite heat resistant.
@AgentPothead
@AgentPothead Жыл бұрын
This is great. The only thing I wish you had done Clive was kept the FLIR camera on it as it heated up so we could see how hot it got overall. Plus the pretty colors on the FLIR are pretty.
@BreakingBarriers2DIY
@BreakingBarriers2DIY Жыл бұрын
“I should do this without any rehearsal…Yes I should!” Made my day lol
@shavono8402
@shavono8402 Жыл бұрын
This is super neat! You could also put in a small PTC thermistor of some kind in the laminated sleeve to help regulate the temperature, or at least prevent overtemp failures.
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 Жыл бұрын
So now we need a mains test to see how it behaves at 4 kW!
@karllangeveld6449
@karllangeveld6449 Жыл бұрын
Yes Clive, put it into the sausage heater!😂
@williamhuang8309
@williamhuang8309 Жыл бұрын
it would probably draw around 3.3kW and 14 amps. Then it would explode...
@PerspectiveEngineer
@PerspectiveEngineer Жыл бұрын
Would it work with AC
@abcdefgh1279
@abcdefgh1279 Жыл бұрын
Clive, you forgot to measure the resistance! But anyway, the thing would just explode on the mains the moment you plug it in 😅
@rhodexa
@rhodexa Жыл бұрын
Oops, somebody invented the flat incandescent light 'bulb'
Жыл бұрын
Thank you once again for your content big Clive. Throughout the years, watching you became like a bowl of hot soup in middle of a harsh winter. Always relaxing, bringing me a smile and making me laugh, also made me a better creator. 🙂
@thomasbarlow4223
@thomasbarlow4223 Жыл бұрын
Considering I live in Florida not sure when I'd ever need this....I'm thankful for you and all your crazy science experiments.
@Rickmakes
@Rickmakes Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is an easy way to make these with silicone instead of laminating plastic. A while back Nighthawkinlight did a video on mixing silicone caulk with a solvent so he could coat things with it. Maybe that would work.
@charleshepplewhite7384
@charleshepplewhite7384 Жыл бұрын
Very impressed with the carbon fibre. However the plastic pouch is the main problem. Attach a thermistor and get it self regulating. Love it
@rickarmstrong4704
@rickarmstrong4704 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Clive! I have used the already made ones that are for the jackets and fitt them in My mitts for winter Bike rides they are thr sewn carbon thread type there are five heating pads they draw a bit over an amp at the 5 volts! Cheers!!! Rick Armstrong Aurora Ontario Canada
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Much appreciated.
@NickCombs
@NickCombs Жыл бұрын
I've got a few off the shelf pads like this at 7W, sold for terrariums. They can become a fire hazard even below that if you forget about one under a blanket or some other insulating cover, but they also use 1/200th the energy of my baseboard heater.
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Жыл бұрын
Well that was exciting! Cheers Clive, easy to understand, good to know, fun to watch.
@oasntet
@oasntet Жыл бұрын
Interesting how the smoke comes and goes. I wonder if that's the plasticizer leaving the laminate, and maybe this could be a manufacturing step for making stiffer and high-temperature ones. Maybe stack something flat and heavy on it to keep it from deforming, and then use its own heat to cook out the lower-temperature volitiles, see what's left afterwards... But also good to know that you can make a 5w one and it's got about a 5x safety margin still.
@andymouse
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
Nice example of which way the current is flowing......cheers
@grantrennie
@grantrennie Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good video Clive, I've been looking at window heating elements and small heaters such as the miniature tube heaters for de icing etc... I've found a few manufacturers of the heating tape and holders for mini heaters and there's a small etching business local to my home that makes custom foil patterns by laser cutting and liquid etching..
@NoahNobody
@NoahNobody Жыл бұрын
Great timing! I brew stuff and was recently thinking about making one of these to heat a small space.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to try to construct a higher-temperature version of this using something like a couple of glass plates clamped firmly together instead of the plastic sleeve, and then seeing how hot you could actually get it before it started suffering ill-effects... In theory, if you used the right materials, you should be able to make something that can produce quite a bit of heat output (but the failure mode when you push it too far might be quite a bit more dramatic)..
@BlargKing
@BlargKing Жыл бұрын
This is actually genius, Im thinking of some DIY custom fit heater pads for my car's side mirrors to defrost them in the winter. My mother's car has heated side mirrors from the factory and its very useful.
@Ed19601
@Ed19601 11 ай бұрын
It works quite well. I used this method to make a heating mat for my propagator (about A4 size). It pulls about 8 Watt. Enough to let my seeds sprout. Prior i had used resistors in heatshrink, but roots would curl around those
@keyboarderror1
@keyboarderror1 Жыл бұрын
I imagine the carbon fiber by itself could take quite a bit of heat as long as it's not really flammable. That seems like it could be useful for things like 3D printer beds in some variation. It looks like a more even heat than the coiled copper trace you normally get. Not very heavy either which is good. I wonder if it could be more cost effective. Neat!
@KeozFPV
@KeozFPV Жыл бұрын
That realy nice to keep stuff warm. Maybe senitive equpment or so melt snow. also with capton tape there are many use cases. You no longer need to oder a pcb for prototyping. Thanks for sharing this great idea!
@grndkntrl
@grndkntrl Жыл бұрын
You could maybe use some wide Kapton (polyimide) tape between the laminate pouch and the copper & carbon fibre as additional protection against melting the pouch. Might not even need the pouch if you can get thick enough Kapton tape, or have multiple layers instead.
@strenter
@strenter Жыл бұрын
We need pouches made of Kapton.
@lacunate
@lacunate Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't any thermal insulation be defeating the purpose of the heater aspect of it? :p
@strenter
@strenter Жыл бұрын
@@lacunate Kapton is heat resistant, about as heat insulating as normal pouch material. You can get it in rolls as adhesive tape.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
Kapton is comparatively delicate. It’s not as tough as the laminating pouches. And it’s far more expensive. So I wouldn’t use it anywhere it’s not truly necessary.
@strenter
@strenter Жыл бұрын
@@tookitogo It might cost more, but it is the result that counts. If you want to make a custom heating element this way that can produce more heat without crincling up like normal pouches, you need other material. The price is less of importance if it can be made working. The Kapton adhesive film and the Kapton insulation around NiCr-Ni thermocouple I have worked with so far were a lot thinner than pouch material, so yes, in that respect they are 'more brittle', but still sturdy enough. The main reason for why there are no Kapton pouches is probably the color of Kapton.
@seanrh4294
@seanrh4294 Жыл бұрын
Peltier's elements are pretty good for heating and cooling. Fun to play with. I got a stack of 3 down to -50 C. You could build a cloud chamber with those.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
They are fun, but very inefficient. And their efficiency falls as the temperature differential between the hot and cold sides grows. For heating you’re better off with a resistive heater. For cooling, a refrigeration cycle system is far better. They do have some niche applications, but there’s a very good reason we don’t cool homes and refrigerators with them.
@seanrh4294
@seanrh4294 Жыл бұрын
@@tookitogo There are videos on youtube of people building cloud chambers with Peltier elements, and they work!
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
@@seanrh4294 Where did I say it wouldn’t work? I just said it’s really inefficient, so I don’t think “really good” is the best description for them as a blanket statement. (Which is what your first sentence is.)
@johnkukla9522
@johnkukla9522 Жыл бұрын
Yes, their efficiency may be poor, but their size, solid-state nature and ability to heat or cool with polarity reversal makes them extremely flexible and convenient. Besides, when it comes to making cool stuff just for the hell of it, who's worried about efficiency anyways?
@arthurmann578
@arthurmann578 Жыл бұрын
Really cool and useful experiment, Clive! I can see me making some glove and sock warmers with your idea this coming winter.....🤔👍👍
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS Жыл бұрын
This is a great little experiment! I could see this being worked into all sorts of applications. I wonder if heating up/dehydrating the fiber pad just before sealing it in could help with the moisture thing.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the moisture came from the pouch adhesive.
@jek__
@jek__ Жыл бұрын
Neat! I bought some of this a while ago for igniting plasma in the microwave and did some similar experiments with heating pads, but I just mounted it taught between two thick metal leads. The copper tape seems to make more sense, I kept creating little arcs where the connection was made that ate through the fiber lol. I didnt think to laminate it, that certainly makes the material a lot more useful!
@RousePartridge
@RousePartridge Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I need for my Telescope to retard Dew from the optics at night. 5V power bank + custom build/Wattage. Thanks BC, my weekend agenda is now full.😁
@pokemoncrusher1246
@pokemoncrusher1246 Жыл бұрын
Ridiculous how much they charge for dew heaters
@whompronnie
@whompronnie Жыл бұрын
What did you call me
@RousePartridge
@RousePartridge Жыл бұрын
@@whompronnie 🤣
@lezbriddon
@lezbriddon Жыл бұрын
for my camera lens i used heating wire from a domestic electric blanket, measure lenght, cut in 20 pieces, each length is now 12v. sew it into a sock, sock over lens, old 12v car battery.... One or at the most two strips should do.
@jacksonreazin6042
@jacksonreazin6042 Жыл бұрын
Good idea 😊 Would work for long exposure night photography!!
@jimmytvfclassic
@jimmytvfclassic Жыл бұрын
Oh! I had a fleece blanket that had that stuff! I bought it from Dealextreme like 10 years ago, cheap as heck, wasn't very big, like 40x60cm, one day broke down and I tore it apart to see what was inside. And it was that. Male USB cable connected to a pair of copper strips to a black fiber inside a plastic bag... I thought at the time it was graphite coated cellulose or something, but no, it's carbon fiber. Very interesting! Cheers!
@quantumleap359
@quantumleap359 Жыл бұрын
"Eh, no flames... Boooo!" I'm still laughing! Good show Clive.
@Chris_the_Muso
@Chris_the_Muso Жыл бұрын
12.66 ohms if anyone was wondering... Good tip learned from this first time experiment: iron the carbon fibre to drive out moisture before laminating. or stick it in an oven at 100C for a few minutes first. Whatever floats your boat. "26 volts and it's smoking again. This is good." Can't argue with that ;-D Oh, an interesting side project (very) would be diode based thermostat. The diode would be a sensor, and you'd need at least a mosfet to regulate on/off. Maybe one resistor for a voltage divider? With surface mount components you could laminate all into one unit. That would make it more tolerant of voltage if nothing else, and would make it a more useful project overall.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
The moisture was probably in the laminating pouches.
@onerka69
@onerka69 Жыл бұрын
I really like it when you throw in some of these bench top tinkering videos instead of all the reverse engineering ones
@KurtCollier
@KurtCollier Жыл бұрын
if you make more of these, you can easily avoid getting the adhesive side on the hole. After making the hole, close the pouch and use a marker or even just a sharp thing to scratch the area inside the hole on the opposite side. Then you cover that mark with the adhesive. easier to get a good solder point.
@confusedbystander2898
@confusedbystander2898 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one for a diy dryer and was wondering how they work. Thanks!
@chrisdixon5241
@chrisdixon5241 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting project Clive, thanks for sharing! Just a thought, but instead of sticking the copper over the holes, couldn't you stick it on the other side of the pouch so you don't have to deal with the glue? Probably need a slightly smaller bit of carbon fibre to not cover the holes (or maybe just punch a hole through that too to reach the copper?)
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 Жыл бұрын
Hey Clive! Good idea! I'm wondering if we change the laminating pouch to something more heat resistant, could this heater be turned high temperature enough to became a reflow soldering base?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
It is best suited to low level heating.
@LynxCarpathica
@LynxCarpathica Жыл бұрын
Hi Clive! Brake cleaner takes off adhesive like its nothing. Also, best against thermal grease. very good thing to have in handy!
@alexmacdiver
@alexmacdiver Жыл бұрын
Clive gets new phone with Fancy Thermal Imagine Camera: Clive makes Cool Video destroying pocket snooker warmer, forgets to check Max Heat. Q: Could this be used to heat food while camping? Thinking MRE rations style experiment.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
yeah carbon fiber and copper can handle high temps, you would need a more heat-resistent substrate than the plastic though
@smylingsam
@smylingsam 7 ай бұрын
" ... there is the smoke again ; this is good ..." while your fire extinguisher is in view. You missed saying "safety first" 👌😊🤣
@David_Hogue
@David_Hogue Жыл бұрын
I used fiberglass and resin to make props before, but this is another level
@bundo13
@bundo13 Жыл бұрын
ah yes, the 762508 package surface mount resistor
@SameAsAnyOtherStranger
@SameAsAnyOtherStranger Жыл бұрын
I use cut off sleeves with holes cut for my thumbs that I wear underneath my gloves. When it's really cold I put hand warming pads in the cut off sleeves with the pads against the undersides of my wrists. The blood being warmed in my wrists keeps my hands warm and not putting the pads in my gloves keeps my hands from sweating.
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 Жыл бұрын
Great idea just in time for summer too!
@brucewhiteside1741
@brucewhiteside1741 4 ай бұрын
Classic engineering report: "We tested for a breaking point. It has one!"
@M0UAW_IO83
@M0UAW_IO83 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best way to find anything that's dropped into a parallel universe and become 'lost' forever is to order a replacement, works unfailingly. Very interesting project though, it could be really useful for stabilising electronics at a set temperature.
@StarkRG
@StarkRG Жыл бұрын
looks like you need to embed it in something that isn't going to break down at higher temperatures. Lamination plastic isn't ideal because its entire purpose is to melt at a relatively low temperature. You also want it to be thin and flexible, though. Maybe silicone? Clamp it between two flat surfaces to make it as thin as possible. I think you'd probably also want to try baking the moisture out of the carbon fibre much like you would for 3D printer fillament (food dehydrator is best). I'm guessing silicone wires would be a good idea too, I wonder if you could get it to seal with the silicone substrate to make it waterproof.
@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude Жыл бұрын
Wow, that actually is really cool! I did not expect the resistance to be soo low, I expected this to have like 5Mohm or something.
@Slicerwizard
@Slicerwizard Жыл бұрын
Why would carbon have a high resistance?
@UhrwerkKlockwerx
@UhrwerkKlockwerx Жыл бұрын
Chinese manufacturers: "Write that down, write that down!"
@RipelyFecund
@RipelyFecund Жыл бұрын
We have an A3 laminator in our office. I am sooooo tempted 😊
@paulregner5335
@paulregner5335 Жыл бұрын
Not as dramatic as the Presto Hot Dogger experiments, but an excellent foray into science, none-the-less. 👍
@PaftDunk
@PaftDunk Жыл бұрын
I have some nickel plated microfiberglass that would be amazing for high heat applications. Only issue is cost, and not knowing how the acrylic binder acts/can be burned off and still form a sheet. I do have low carbon fiber content fiberglass as well, but pretty difficult to get good conductivity across the whole sheet.
@peter.stimpel
@peter.stimpel Жыл бұрын
I was expecting the carbon to go broke, but disappointed by Clive and his 40ish Volts 😆
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
So if the Hi Temp glass cloth tape was used to wrap instead of the plastic it would hold up a lot better? Not as pretty for sure though...
@napalmholocaust9093
@napalmholocaust9093 Жыл бұрын
The copper will be 4-12% lead to ease drawing through dies. Brass is usually the same for machining. Otherwise it is pretty sticky to cut and prone to crack. I think it reduces work hardening too. Makes it move more on a lathe if it is thin, like in slot cutting fins. You'd want to make all the cuts at once with a "comb" cutter. You have to go really slow w/o one to keep it from bending into the last slot.
@petergrondman8064
@petergrondman8064 Жыл бұрын
could have had it warmer this winter.. now at 57 seconds in your video. Man, the thins you try and do when you have no idea!! Tried to hook up a waterheater element with a pcfan and alluminium cooler and stuff.. Love you Clive, you always make me laugh and think.. thankyouverymuch.
@Erik_Swiger
@Erik_Swiger Жыл бұрын
I was kind of hoping for 240 volts at 50 amps, but still a good demolition. Great idea, I didn't know carbon fiber could be used this way.
@habla2531
@habla2531 11 ай бұрын
your pink calculator is EPIC !! thank you for this vid !
@kungfutuber
@kungfutuber Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content! I think we need to send one of these over to photonicinduction for further testing.
@anthonyshiels9273
@anthonyshiels9273 Жыл бұрын
As a member of the Semi Conductor Family Carbon has a negative thermal coefficient for resistance. I learned that from my Secondary School Science Teacher. With a University Degree in Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics I have NEVER seen that little snippet since.
@Murgoh
@Murgoh Жыл бұрын
These would be great for adding heated mirrors to vehicles that are no equipped with those from the factory. Also might be used to keep electric boxes dry. People have traditionally used low wattage light bulbs for those purposes but those do burn out with time. Just customize the resistance for 12 volt supply.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
A well under-run power resistor is a handy source of warmth in some enclosures.
@Dwdanieldotdd
@Dwdanieldotdd Жыл бұрын
I could see a real use for this to make a temperature controlled oven (stable environment) for crystals and such. Wrap a pipe with kapton tape then a couple of strips of copper tape then wrap the pipe between but overlapping with the carbon fiber and finally more kapton tape over that. Solder wires on, put the control circuits and xtal oscillator inside and violoia. Quick and dirty temp stabilized xtal oscillator! Take care. Tootles... Wade 👍😎👍
@plasmaman9592
@plasmaman9592 Жыл бұрын
There's a company here in the US that sells carbon fiber fabric into whatever clothing you want them to to make it taser proof. The videos seem pretty convincing
@martin_mue
@martin_mue Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Wonder if there is a more flexible laminating film for making a heated jacket.
@TheUnknownCatWarrior
@TheUnknownCatWarrior Жыл бұрын
Try using kapton tape since it can withstand higher temperatures. Note that cheap tape might not last long and would even melt.
@countzero1136
@countzero1136 Жыл бұрын
Interesting project that's got me thinking. I do a lot of work with analogue synthesisers, and I'm immediately wondering what sort of resistance this carbon fibre sheet has, and how viable it would be to make a resistive ribbon controller with it, and also I'm wondering if you had a few layers of this stuff, would you be able to get a variable resiatance based on the amount of pressure applied to it, in which case it might be a possible way of making aftertouch sensors for a keyboard...
@MyProjectBoxChannel
@MyProjectBoxChannel Жыл бұрын
I've used copper foil tape to make "hidden" speaker wires. Just stick two parallel strips on the wall, and paint over them. I've also passed control signals through copper tape in the same way. Sometimes I would use just a single strip, and the earth as the return wire. Only low voltage/current stuff.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
There was genuinely a commercial under-carpet electrical system that worked like that. Laminated copper strips and insulation piercing sockets. I was never really convinced at its safety or reliability.
@Aletheia-Media
@Aletheia-Media 11 ай бұрын
This reminds me of a science lesson I was in where I got bored and cranked up the voltage.
@Suesses-Einhorn
@Suesses-Einhorn Жыл бұрын
there is an interesting quack product called Kagan Magic Plus. The product has entered the pit of nothing available anymore, but the concept works, again and again
@bennylloyd-willner9667
@bennylloyd-willner9667 Жыл бұрын
Great! I'm gonna buy the stuff and see if I can make large pads for the inside of my mudflaps on the car. Here in Sweden we often get pretty crappy winters with muddy snow building up on the flaps that gets rock hard with the temperature jo-joing around 0°C. Over been thinking about how to make heated flaps and was going for Konstantan wire (is that the English name for it?) but this seems to be a great alternative👍 I'll just glue them on and cover with glossy "snowophobic" paint😊
@bennylloyd-willner9667
@bennylloyd-willner9667 Жыл бұрын
While I'm at it, I'll make some strips for my LED light bars too... ...uhmmm, wait🤦😂
@Killfish37
@Killfish37 Жыл бұрын
Big Clive Is such a boss.
@iainburgess8577
@iainburgess8577 Жыл бұрын
Re thermal camera view; still looking at an electrical "pressure gradient": your highest temperature is fairly close to one terminal, your average is onhtye center, and the low temperature area is furthest from both terminals. You might supply both eds of each copper strip in parralel to average that out better.
@iainburgess8577
@iainburgess8577 Жыл бұрын
Maybe additional restriction on the positive wire would allow the pad thermals to "fill out" more. I can get to resistor, diode or capacitor as possible components, but Im still reverse engineering electronic thru my native physics;vso I'd really like to see (via thermal) what each does to the heat distribution. Explanation; the normal method is to think that electricity flows from + to -, and plan circuits accordingly, because the component order is easier to comprehend that way. But electron flow is actually in the opposite direction. So looking at the thermal view, traditional interpretation would assume a stream of water hitting a towel. But actual flow is more akin to water backing up at a drain off of a field. If you want to flood the field, restrict the drain.
@Erik_Swiger
@Erik_Swiger Жыл бұрын
BTW, I've purchased copper foil tape at the hobby store; it's used for stained glass.
@jeffdayman8183
@jeffdayman8183 Жыл бұрын
Great experiments! Pity about the lack of flames / loud noise, maybe next time. 8^) Cheers!
@TMHMooseMoss
@TMHMooseMoss Жыл бұрын
Would love to see one of these on mains voltage. I'm sure it would be a good show
@regd809
@regd809 Жыл бұрын
I have a mains powered heat pad with similar construction. The copper is stitched to the pad material ( probably not the same carbon fibre but looks similar). Stitching would provide more secure and even electrical connection.
@MrPabsUk
@MrPabsUk Жыл бұрын
Interesting.. Looks ideal to do a solar powered hot water tank heater with a buffer & regulator?
@wisher21uk
@wisher21uk Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video thanks Clive
@jeremyindenver
@jeremyindenver Жыл бұрын
Great job!, you always make the most interesting and unique videos!
@BC0pss
@BC0pss Жыл бұрын
I've seen a house where they retrofitted a water borehole in their backyard, the borehole-to-house piping is buried roughly two meters underground so the pipe doesn't freeze, however there is a small portion of the pipe that resurfaces ever so briefly just to enter the house on the ground floor level (trying to route the pipe directly indoors would involve digging beneath the basement). To avoid freezing that little above the ground portion, a special electrically heated pipe had to be installed, which cost about £70-80. I wonder if that could be solved with these DIY heater pads since they're perfectly flexible and can be rolled in a tube shape thus protecting pipes and, perhaps, other infrastructure that needs ever so little heat just to avoid hitting too low temperature.
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