Tacky Nokero solar light clone

[@MartinzW]

Good on Nokero for designing/building their own product. Way too many "startups" take a Chinese product, slap their brand on it and call it as new innovative product. Chinese copying these guys instead is indication how good Nokero is/was.

[@KernelLeak]

2:26 I was half expecting it to also have an SOS blinking mode...

[@Lizlodude]

Man I hate those lol. Repurposed chips are fun, reminds me of how occasionally the cheaper cameras on FPV drones will start showing a backup camera lane guide if you hit something hard enough XD

[@jmr]

@@Lizlodude That is funny! Never saw it anywhere but a backup camera! 🤣

[@ralphj4012]

It has, simply screw it into a live ES lamp socket.

[@JDWatkins]

Thank you for the holding back on the crappy knock off. As usual, love these videos. Keep them rolling on in.

[@ncooper8438]

The price difference should be taken into account when comparing them. Sometimes a tacky device is exactly what's needed.

[@MaterialAmbience]

Guess you could call it a Nokeroff 😂

[@TheTeflonTranny]

Gotta pay that..

[@TheJazzNL]

Or a NoCareO about knocking off products 😂

[@notahotshot]

😂 🤣😂 🤣... Get out!

[@smartgorilla]

best joke ever

[@jmr]

I'd love to see Clives perfect solar light design for efficiency and long life.

[@joecool4656]

One time I modified a $1 solar light I bought to be a night light for my room. 4 AA Ni-Mh rechargeable batteries and a large solar panel. Boy that thing was great!

[@jmr]

@@joecool4656 That's pretty cool. I found some rechargeable lights with an external solar panel. The panel connects via USB micro. Sadly the battery inside isn't that great. I'll probably do surgery to increase the battery size on those. I've also been testing some USB bulbs that plug into a USB battery bank. Then I recharge the battery bank with a solar panel. It's a decent solution.

[@joecool4656]

@@jmr Yeah that's a good start. An important thing to note is that the voltage from the solar panel must be higher than the voltage of the battery for it to charge. I did not know this and kept making early versions of lights that eventually would need to be recharged

[@stevenfaber3896]

This was about to be my exact comment, and I'm thinking this is the right time maybe? QinkPalculator Colored LED Solar Actually works in a garden Lamp!

[@demef758]

6:38 What really happens with a boost converter is that when the IC's driver is grounded, it is inductor CURRENT that linearly ramps up with a slope of Vdd/L (amps per second). The longer the on time (Ton), the higher the peak of the ramp current. When the switch is turned off (Toff), the output pin voltage flies up (hence "flyback") but the current cannot instantaneously change while the voltage can, and does. The output voltage rises until it is clamped by the LEDs (about 3.0V) and the current begins to ramp down as the voltage reverses, with a ramp rate of (Vled-Vin)/L (amps per second). Thus the inductor has a triangular current waveform and the LED sinks the second half of the inductor's triangular waveform. The averages of these triangular waveforms are what you read as the DC currents on a multimeter. The details of operation are too nuanced to describe in detail here (continuous vs. discontinuous) but the math is simple algebra once you can wave your hands to describe the inductor waveforms. Just know that the basic assumption about a boost is that Vout > Vin whereas for a buck it is reversed.

[@Wanton110]

I thought you were going to go in to the Romeo and Juliet opening.. Two solar lights, both alike in dignity, on big clive, where we lay our scene, from copyright grudge break to new cloneity

[@obsidianjane4413]

We had a couple of the knock off ones, Left them outside and they lasted for several years exposed to the elements and daily cycles. If I replaced the battery cell they would probably still work fine. Sadly the cheapies from China are really the only ones that po' folk in the developing world can afford, and AFAIK there are a lot more common where they were intended to be. Nokero's business model is/was the typical condescending Western "handout welfare". The actual Nokeros are mostly owned by suburban eco hipsters. Everyone should be happy that their good idea got copied.

[@ferrumignis]

_"Everyone should be happy their good idea got copied"_ I'm sure you'd be singing a very different tune if it was your business being ripped off.

[@CanizaM]

@@ferrumignis The business of... making solar-rechargeable lights?

[@obsidianjane4413]

@BreatheScotland I see you don't know anything about them or that they were supposed to be a nonprofit doing a feels project.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Yep. Not surprised. We westerners tend to look down on the 3rd world like the assholes we are.

[@Derek_Garnham]

@@ferrumignis if they were in business for just the cash and not their loudly proclaimed concern about kids being exposed to kero fumes then who cares if they get ripped off.

[@rickseiden1]

"Not fantastically designed." Sounds like a job I'd be qualified for. 🤣

[@MARKE911]

😂 if there was an interview for this job I would be top contender. 😂

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Just like all my coding!

[@myfavoriteviewer306]

It just occurred to me that a tee shirt with Clive's LED symbol oriented just right to look like a squiggly faced person wearing a funny hat would make a fantastic piece of merch. Blue stripes from the paper would be optional but appreciated 😁

[@chrishartley1210]

I found a write up about the original by Maxeon who say they supply the solar panel pieces under their Sunpower brand. Unfortunately the pictures they used are of the clone.

[@DirtyPlumbus]

Lol

[@danwhite3224]

Even though it's a cheap copy, it's great to see no blob chips!

[@pleasecho2]

Double edged sword on drainage holes - you get either trapped moisture or accumulated tiny bugs

[@Derek_Garnham]

it's not a flaw it's a feature - "insect trap"

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

@@Derek_Garnham The early LED bulbs with air vents were veritable insect traps. Here in tropical India, lots of people just removed the dome/diffuser and used them with the bare board exposed.

[@cmdrclassified]

Just so you know Sir, I have been using your line "One moment please!", and folks love it! Have a great day, and God Bless! o7

[@McTroyd]

Nokero never delivered the light I ordered, nor responded to shipping queries. No skin off my back -- I have no shortage of power or light sources -- but I'm hoping the two I bought for donation made it to the people that did need it.

[@bigclivedotcom]

Sorry to hear that. I get the feeling you weren't the only one that happened to.

[@McTroyd]

@@bigclivedotcom No worries -- I'm not upset or anything. My hope is that it was accidentally sent with the donation. At least then it's getting good use, if that's the case. Would just be nice to have some confirmation.

[@rpbajb]

Mine never arrived either. Company never responded to multiple inquiries. I blame the pandemic, too.

[@kkzooi]

reminds me of the ''waka waka'' solar light/powerbank i have. basically the same idea as the Nokero but a different design. It can be mounted on a bottle of water or you can swiffle a plastic piece around that functions as a stand. Has 2 cob LED's in it with 4 brightness settings, USB type A out and a mini USB connector where it can be charged from a generic USB charger or anything else with USB that provides power. They arent cheap but if you buy one they will send one to a charity in a country selected by you (from a list ofcourse). unfortunately they only ship to buyers from Belgium, France Germany or the Netherlands, limiting the amount of customers they can reach

[@ScottEvans-vk7hse]

Just did a quick search on this item and found many sites selling or featuring the knock off one as the official version! The plastic green colour is different and the side profile is as well. Looks like there's now a variation that's mounted the solar segments at a 45° (like a cone shape)

[@ProlificInvention]

Big Clive, awesome video as always. I was wondering if they make a product you could connect a fully charged battery and it would drain it giving you the capacity, or a little DIY piece of kit would be even better. You may even already have a video on such a thing, I'm always curious about the actual capacity of all these different batteries VS how they're labeled.

[@michaelcalvin42]

I don't know that he has a dedicated battery capacity tester, but he does often test dubious batteries by draining them and then manually charging them via a bench supply or the like. When he does, he usually leaves the true capacity in the video description (and usually reminds us somewhere in the video, which he seems to have forgotten this time.) Anyways, checking the description, it looks like this 1000 mAh battery was actually 1000 mAh.

[@ProlificInvention]

Thank you guys, that is much appreciated

[@JohnDlugosz]

A fancy battery charger, as used by RC control hobbyists, will include a test mode. They can work with all types of batteries, too, so they're handy to have around. It's good for seeing if the battery you bought online has the stated capacity or is a piece of junk.

[@Bill-Phuk]

I use an xtar vc8 to check battery capacity. These chargers cover lithium ion and nickel metal hydride batteries. Quite a nice bit of kit.

[@tin2001]

If you're planning on doing it fairly often, the 4 slot Opus BT-C3100 is great. Up to 1A per cell (charge and discharge), anything from AAA to 18650, and does NiMH and lithium ion (might do nicad too, but not sure as I generally don't touch nicads). Edit: got the model wrong. Was in a rush. C3100 is what I have. Not sure if C3400 is even a thing - might be a new model but I don't know.

[@John_Ridley]

If they use the same inductor on both sides, couldn't they just eliminate one of the chips and inductors and have the switch toggle between the led choices? For that matter if the LEDs are all the same, make it 5 LEDs on the outside and have the high setting just add them in parallel to the center one. Not great but it is already not great, they could cut a lot of costs here and not be any crappier than it already is.

[@brianallen9810]

I did buy one of the "Sunny Money" solar lamps you featured some time ago. Really nice lamp...very handy. Thanks for the warning about the cheap knock off, although I take everything that comes from China with suspicion.

[@Derek_Garnham]

"I take everything that comes from China with suspicion." yeah, like what the Chinese ever do for us? well apart from the magnetic compass, gunpowder, papermaking and printing.

[@iamfuturetrunks]

That's the problem when you come across something that you like or is a good product and then you show or share it with someone else and then before you know it the item you like is now sold out and/or you can't get it anymore or it's way to expensive. Or the company gets bought out and the new companies makes it worse etc.

[@melkiorwiseman5234]

I made a more reliable light by doing it myself. One 6V (max) 20mA solar panel, one leftover mobile phone Li-Ion battery and a circuit from a design I found online using two NPN transistors, four resistors and a diode. It drives 10 white LED lights when it gets dark and turns the LEDs off and charges the battery when it gets light enough. The load of the battery and the internal protection circuit combine to ensure it will never over-charge, and the 10 LEDs draw enough current to pull down the voltage when the battery is fully charged so that it doesn't blow out the LEDs. It's been running like that for years, now.

[@powpow5608]

For those who don't know Nokero means its " No Kerosene"

[@marksterling8286]

Working with op amps in my teenage years, prefer 0v rather than -VE.

[@wburger2178]

What did South Africa have before candles? Electricity!

[@Petertronic]

Just bought some solar lights from Asda, they use the same 5252F chip

[@MookieZerang]

Always good to see Big Clive analyse a knock off.

[@ferrumignis]

I wonder what the leakage current into the solar input pins is when Vdd is disconnected. Pretty significant I expect since there is a diode from the S pin straight to Vdd within the IC.

[@hopje01]

Cost improvement: remove the left side chip/coil and put the switchover switch on the right side on the output to switch between the 6 leds and the 1 led?

[@billjuaire3316]

I don't think the N233 is availably any more. Clive, How about a video of you designing a solar light of your own with a LiFePo4 battery

[@DelphineDofain]

"It has a singularity" I expected to see a black hole inside that lamp... I was disappoint.

[@ioratv]

It's because there is no event horizon. They cheaped out on that.

[@pear7777]

Saw the video during pandemic.. BUT I totally missed the awesom hook on the top end, on both of them.. So if you screw this in a lampsocket you'll make a MASSIVE short circuit if it's LIVE... or doesn't it fit?

[@bigclivedotcom]

It doesn't quite fit into a lamp holder.

[@greendiesel33]

💡 . Big Clive ... When you pulled the battery 🔋 out and read the power ... What did you say ? Wether you believe ( ........ ) Or not . I have a idea / maybe chemical name for bs . Please let me know. Cheers big man .

[@SpeedLockedNZ]

WHAT WITH THE "EDDISON" SCREW FITTING UNDER THE cLIP?

[@bigclivedotcom]

It's just for style. It won't actually fit into a holder even with the clip removed.

[@diogosoaresmendes]

It's great to see a video highlighting the differences between the original Nokero light and its clone. The Nokero light is such a meaningful innovation, designed to improve the lives of people in developing countries by providing a safer alternative to kerosene lamps. It's unfortunate that some companies choose to take advantage of this idea for their own profit without considering the ethical implications. Your in-depth analysis of the technical aspects of both lights is very informative and offers valuable insights to the viewers. It's also responsible of you to have waited before making this video to avoid any negative impact on Nokero's business. Your commitment to sharing knowledge while being considerate of the potential consequences is truly commendable. Keep up the good work, and I hope to see more informative and insightful videos like this in the future!

[@UberAlphaSirus]

Now they can aford 4 shit ones. Or you know, not set their mud hut on fire. Presuming these people are thick as shit and need to be treated like 3 year olds doesn't help them out much. I guesse they cook with leds too, you know fire bad. Pretentious shits fucking wind me up.

[@Alacritous]

Innovative? Pfft. It's an LED light with a solar charger. Don't buy into the marketing.

[@treelineresearch3387]

@@Alacritous Call me cynical but when I see something marketed as a "charitable" product I immediately wonder what NGO/grant the business was designed from the start to milk.

[@Alacritous]

@@treelineresearch3387 Watch for the distinction between "profits" and "proceeds" When they say "profits" it means they get their take first and the charity gets whatever is left over.

[@diogosoaresmendes]

@@Alacritous Thank you for sharing your perspective. While it's true that the Nokero light is, at its core, an LED light with a solar charger, its innovative aspect lies in the context and the impact it has on the lives of people in developing countries. By providing a safe, affordable, and environmentally friendly alternative to kerosene lamps, Nokero has made a significant difference in many communities. The simplicity of the design is precisely what makes it so accessible and effective in these regions. Moreover, the marketing around the Nokero light is not solely about selling a product; it's about raising awareness of the challenges faced by people in energy-poor areas and offering a sustainable solution to address those needs. Innovation isn't always about creating the most technologically advanced product.

[@davidmurn772]

If I'm reading the schematic correctly, the battery won't ever get a charge if the switch is in the off position? Therefore, it has to be left turned on, in the sun in order to charge?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Yes. That's why I mentioned the addition of a diode.

[@BobBeatski71]

Hi Clive, I see you feature as a small part in the latest WattSaver gadget advert on KZbin. 😮

[@bigclivedotcom]

That seems to happen a lot. One Chinese advert even used my voice for the full advert.

[@ShadowzGSD]

i spent too long staring at the numbers 5252F wondering how you could write the one on the left at the top and the one on the right at the bottom, if i did that i would have to rip it up and start again.

[@Tims_Projects]

So have I got this right. Turn it on when the sun is out to charge. Remember to turn it of when the sun goes away, so the battery does not go flat until you want to use it? 🤔

[@bigclivedotcom]

Yeah. The real one doesn't do that. But the clone can be hacked to fix that.

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

Maybe a good candidate for an ex-vapor Lithium battery upgrade ?! I have many AA size 3.7v 850ma 3-ish Watts. ;)

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

Yeah, good point of course. That'll be why you have the chanel, and i don't 😆 Chreerz ;)

[@smartgorilla]

oohhhhhhhhh!! amazing. massive difference!! solar cell is in el cheapo.. have you tried taking a solar, wind up radio and torch apart? i have one and reminds me of the knock of. love ya btw.

[@wiseoldfool]

So many good things begin with "That's odd" or similar.

[@UpLateGeek]

Speaking of NiMH, one pair of my Panasonic Anyloops has dropped to just under 1500mAh from its original 1900mAh capacity. The other set is still at or above the 1700mAh mark. I am a little surprised that there's that much disparity between the two sets. Usually I'll go through one set over the course of the day in my Game Boy Color [sic] during the weekend, but last time it didn't last the full day. When I checked after they finished charging, their capacities showing were 1493 and 1511 mAh. I'm thinking of getting a couple of pairs of the high capacity 2450mAh Anyloops, which should last noticeably longer. I'm also hoping the reduced cycling also means I get more than a few years out of them.

[@jamesbrett6518]

I've got 2 pairs of the 2450mAh Ikea "LADDA" AAs for a Garmin GPS

[@AaronHendu]

I would be converting that thing to lithium...i try to a oid using disposable batteries at all these days if it can be avoided...and it usually can.

[@UberAlphaSirus]

This really is Tat for Tat. Not even a tit to compare.

[@TechBaffle]

It would be nice to get a Nokero light. Can't really find them at the moment but maybe it's more US only. Saying that, I would rather the lights go to a charitable cause than me tinkering around with one!

[@jesuschal3802]

It could be nice to know how the value of the inductor gets calculated for these circuits....

[@bigclivedotcom]

The chips generally have a table in the datasheet.

[@Rob_TheOne]

Question for the expert. If a 48v (42v-54v) ebike battery can discharge at 20 amps, shouldn't it be able to charge at 20 amps?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Slower charging is much better for batteries. The limit for charging speed may be the charging circuitry.

[@primech-128bit]

I wonder why the knockoff didn't put the switch between the output of the chip and LEDs._

[@tikaanipippin]

As an aside, certain "ahem" inhalation devices are suffering from hidden shrinkflation. Battery sizes are being reduced in some cases, despite the same packaging and information regarding contents and longevity. A weight check will probably distinguish older from recent contents

[@Derek_Garnham]

they all seem to end up squashed in the gutter anyway.

[@tncorgi92]

Let me guess... they're all made in China...?

[@tikaanipippin]

@@Derek_Garnham You have to get up early to beat the squashers.

[@Derek_Garnham]

@@tikaanipippin you sound like a professional level "lost/discarded object finder" - happy hunting.

[@tikaanipippin]

@@Derek_Garnham Despite steel boxes, I am sure I risk the house going up in flames one day. At least, I will be warm - to paraphrase the words of Terry Pratchett: "Teach a man to make a fire, and he'll be warm for the next couple of hours, but set a man on fire and he could be warm for the rest of his life!" Today's score:1 McKesse " ENERGY DRINK" MK BAR 7000, rechargeable via USB-C port. (this model is new to me, not autopsied yet, still has power to light LED); 2x "L0st M@ry" BM 600 (old weight, pre-2023 battery-13400, 550mAh, 221224-Christmas Eve issue!-, 2.04Wh, reason for failure, and discard {both}- charring & carbonization shorting of the heating filament, pops noisily and doesn't vaporize properly); 2x "Cryst@l" 600+puffs, still powered, #1 not autopsied yet, #2 squashed, not able to light LED, but probably flat; 1 "ELFB@R600" wiring ruptured/Mouthpiece gone. Also likely DOA. 6 units, 1 rechargeable, an average day for 2023 so far.

[@phonotical]

First one would be better if it had a backup led, say it did die, it could activate the second, at least the other device has a few more, you have to ask where they get the same cases and molds etc

[@richardwernst]

I seem to be missing something. How does the solar panel charge the battery at all without the diode in place? Am I missing part of the circuit that connects the two, whether the switch is on or off?

[@barrieshepherd7694]

I think it's like a garden light you leave it ON then the controller charges the battery turning the light on when the sun goes down. The logic that the battery should be charged when the switch is off has been lost on the designers! Some garden lights suffer from this problem, they only charge if left on - the switch they provide is pointless in many cases and as that is often the first failure point, due to corrosion, can be bridged out.

[@jimsackerman]

How does this comment show as posted a month ago, but the video shows as posted a half hour ago?

[@DirtyPlumbus]

​@@jimsackermanKZbin magic. Lol

[@barrieshepherd7694]

@@jimsackerman The Patreon Fairy

[@atdzsny]

It's an innovative way to protect against overcharging. ;)

[@kimvibk9242]

People in the developing countries use kerosene because it is inexpensive and available. They are too busy trying to survive to worry about the impact on the environment, so they would be more likely to purchase the cheapy Chinese ripoff than the well-meaning but overpriced NoKero light. Also, where would they dispose of spent batteries and defective units?

[@whitesapphire5865]

The "Nokero" must have been good, because it's only good stuff that gets ripped off by someone after a quick buck. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, even if that sincerity is disingenuous, and the flattery unintended.

[@lm2205]

I still have two of the three Nokeras I bought when they first came out, I forget how many years ago now. Still work fine and love the light they throw. Great for camping 👍

[@dollarama8652]

I could use a clone Big Mac right now 🍔🍟🥤 😋

[@whitesapphire5865]

Except that the clone would be bigger, tastier and better!

[@Aeduo]

A whopper?

[@cornoadmin]

So it only charges when a light is switched on?

[@Boraxo]

Huh ?, so when it's switched off, the battery is not getting charged ?

[@mos8541]

LOL.. um i forgot what i was talkin about.. you forgot "earth" and maybe "common" hah

[@snik2pl]

Technicly you can't use ground/earth reference. Its not grounded, its floating and isolated from earth :)

[@JohnDlugosz]

I'd believe that capacity from a cheap AA, since that's what I was getting out of good AAA cells, years ago when I was still using NiMH for most everything.

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

mAh is also misleading when comparing battery types with different voltages, Whr is a better unit

[@mikenco]

It's got to be a cheap torch / garden light hybrid.

[@dcallan812]

shame the original one has been ripped off.

[@jasonnordine8839]

I was thinking about getting into electrical or something to do with circuit boards. I have 0 training or schooling. Where do you suggest I start

[@bigclivedotcom]

There are many options that don't require a formal qualification. Utility electrical and elevator mechanic for instance.

[@tdark987]

0:17 That particular one seems to have a little sad face on it for some reason.

[@nerys71]

as far as crap knockoffs go that's not too half bad. at least they used a NIMH cell instead of a damned LION. the nimh cell is easily replaced and should last 10 plus years like the LIFEPO4 cell would As for the real one the big deal to me is that it uses a lifepo4. meaning it should last 10 years and could last double that and still have usable capacity. now I really want one.

[@j.f.christ8421]

You'd think the simplest (aka cheapest) circuit would be to just switch between two different value inductors, so drive the same number of LEDs but with different current. You'd need a 3-way switch though (low / off / high) rather that the usual crappy 2-way they use.

[@PerspectiveEngineer]

Who is harkens back to 10+ years ago when I was trying to figure out how to make my own store power lights And Clive was blowing up explosives in a dolls asss. Which proves again and again we we learned so much forget so much except was important

[@JohnGotts]

Looks like Nokero went out of business.

[@bigclivedotcom]

It would be a shame if they had.

[@tncorgi92]

Just came here after watching AvE cutting a 18650 in half, lots of flaming shmoo. You've probably seen it by now.

[@bigclivedotcom]

I have, and understood his hesitation to pull the trigger.

[@tncorgi92]

@@bigclivedotcom he doesn't have a pie dish. At least he did do it outside.

[@lkchild]

WOW they’re like baby death daleks!

[@CAESARbonds]

at least ke knock off uses a standard cell. I use retireded eneloops or similar for them.

[@billjuaire3316]

I mistakenly bought a Tacky Nokero clone from Amazon for $42. They have gotten worse than the one reviewed above. The latest version only has 4 LEDs. All LEDs illuminate in the high and low setting, This is nothing but a slightly modified garden light. I spent $42 for something worth $2

[@bigclivedotcom]

If you bought it recently, open up a dispute.

[@edgarmatzinger9742]

Huh? No useless S.O.S mode?

[@TheGreatAtario]

Kind of funny you can't get all seven LEDs going at once

[@CanizaM]

Real one also likely to be designed and made in China, contracted to do so by a company who just decided to virtue-signal more and sell them at a bigger markup with more marketing wank. Do they really think a solar-rechargeable light is such an amazing invention? 🙄

[@MrMaxeemum]

At least it doesn't have the annoying strobe/sos function. I would love a torch without the strobe function, just low medium, and high would be fine. Every time I switch my torch on and it starts to flash I have the compulsion to throw it against the wall. I'm in my garage not up the Himalayas, ARRRGGGHHHGHGHGHHHHhhh.........

[@curtishoffmann6956]

So, buying clone solar lights isn't a bright idea.

[@richardbriansmith8562]

Awesome Video big clive

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

That’s nuts!

[@Friendroid]

Nokero means "I don't want it" in spanish.

[@TrollFaceTheMan]

What a weird, inefficient design doing what they are doing.

[@howardg2010]

Are they supposed to screw into ES fixtures?

[@bigclivedotcom]

I think it's just a style thing.

[@carlubambi5541]

Great take down

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Not gonna lie, nokero should of went with a QX5252F design. Its MUCH simpler, and NI-CD/NI-MH are way more forgiving then lithium batteries.

[@bigclivedotcom]

The LiFePO4 is quite a rugged lithium technology.

[@snowdaysrule]

You could eliminate the second ic and second inductor altogether if you did the switching between led strands after the first inductor lol! I don't get it. And 3 pcb's and a bunch of wires? Hell nah just make it all on 1 pcb and use soldered metal tabs to hold the cell in place. Boom no wires, single pcb, and half the parts lol!

[@moth.monster]

I don't like most solar lights, they always break quickly and don't last long enough.

[@MsLancer99]

It's a case of you get what you pay for. For me I would pay more for the other one

[@michaelladue5655]

Thumb up #445 and comment for the algorithm ALL HAIL THE ALGORITHM

[@sdfasdfvccvvc]

They both look like cheap junk with no good practical use. Even though Nokero's solar panel is more efficient - it also has transparent plastic layer coating which will permanently discolor after some time (much, much sooner than something like tempered glass that is used in solar panels where long lifespan matters), and the battery in Nokero was not AA-sized. In that no-name Chinese clone you can at least replace the AA-sized NiMh battery with any other kind of fully charged AA-sized battery (something that is easy to find in most countries around the world) and have a usable light even after solar panel will go permanently dead or in places with long periods of very low lighting (where any kind of solar panel would be useless).

[@mdavidhandler]

NiMH around 1.2v

[@DeeegerD]

Brilliant! And not so brilliant. 😁🇨🇦

[@twocvbloke]

Can't seem to make anything new these days without it being blatantly copied, cheapened and sold at a much cheaper price just to outsell real thing...

[@DataDrifterOFC]

Looks Crapero.

[@narcogenic]

Very good video 😄