Incredible solid state dehumidifier. No moving parts.

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@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
I need to stop watching your videos for a while; I keep buying things.
@hjdorn
@hjdorn 6 жыл бұрын
You say this like it was a bad thing :)
@JustSomeVideos0
@JustSomeVideos0 6 жыл бұрын
Dehumidifer for the tunnel?
@akai454
@akai454 6 жыл бұрын
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@DougPaulley
@DougPaulley 6 жыл бұрын
I WANNA SEE YOU IN THE BATH
@chrisbleurgh7425
@chrisbleurgh7425 6 жыл бұрын
Just like when I start watching Cody's videos and start looking up electric furnaces or pestering my boss for employee discounts for various chemicals.
@piperfox74
@piperfox74 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Rosahl for being good sports and providing these for a video. And, as always thanks to Clive for sharing his knowledge!
@sanches2
@sanches2 6 жыл бұрын
They were provided by Westide international ( a dealer of Rosahl) at least the description says so. But anyway it is really cool that they gave him this interesting device to show and play with:)
@BaronVonBiffo
@BaronVonBiffo 6 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to damage it" Words I never thought I'd hear on a Big Clive video.
@NinoJoel
@NinoJoel 3 жыл бұрын
They where so proud of your Video they still link it till this day on their front page
@Pants4096
@Pants4096 Жыл бұрын
I missed this 5 years ago, so thank you for mentioning it today! This seems like MAGIC! I wonder how they hold up in dirty/dusty environments over time.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
I'll guess they need a fairly clean and oil free environment.
@ghlscitel6714
@ghlscitel6714 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I remember, the electroosmosis effect relies on the spontaneous dissociation of H2O into OH- and H+ , a genuine property of very pure water. The Hydroniumion (H+ plus a bulk of H2O molecules around it) then is pulled to one side of the half transparent membrane by applying a voltage gradient over the membrane, which has the consequence that there will arise a pressure gradient over the membrane which favours an increase of water molecules density at the side of the Cathode. The OH- is almost immobile (why so, I cannot tell yet - maybe because of the 16 times higher mass than H+). This effect only works with very pure water. Salt like NaCl will build a shunt and poison the membrane which stops the hydroniumtransport. Thats probably why you should not touch the membrane. Fingerdirt is quite salty. And of course, highly mobile oil nebula will also poison the membrane and interrupt the pumping properties, because where there is oil there cannot be water. As a helf permeable membrane filter paper or equivalent might work as long as it electrically neutral. I know that sintered glas fritters work well to show this effect. The textured surface on the outside of the element looks for me like metallised cloth which often is used for anti-EMI wall paper. www.amazon.de/YSHIELD%C2%AE-Abschirmvlies-HNV80-Breite-Laufmeter/dp/B00FO7ZJLY Great find man!
@DaveCurran
@DaveCurran 6 жыл бұрын
You should take one of those, glue it to the top of a water bottle, power it by a solar panel then crowd fund it as a self filling water bottle........
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
It would work as well. Basically a corpse lying in the sunshine next to a bottle that had accumulated quarter of an inch of water since its owner died of dehydration a week earlier.
@andykbright
@andykbright 6 жыл бұрын
Google Fontus....
@Milamberinx
@Milamberinx 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like the videos that explain why those systems don't work. "Dry places are dry", "places without water, don't have a lot of water". Very amusing.
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Curran Wouldn't you end up with a bottle full of hydrogen? I know! Run the hydrogen into a fuel cell to power the system! Perpetual motion with no moving parts! lol
@ChurchOfTheHolyMho
@ChurchOfTheHolyMho 6 жыл бұрын
Jim - I think that is similar to what the "Helios" UAV was considering, as mentioned by someone in another comment. On the other hand, you may have the workings for a self-filling dirigible. :P
@LunarHermit
@LunarHermit 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I had no idea such a thing existed. These things seem like they'd be quite useful in the outdoor equipment boxes at work considering they usually contain somewhat pricey ethernet routers and power supplies.
@TheUniversalid
@TheUniversalid 2 жыл бұрын
The peltier module is often used in outdoor boxes and in machines with high temperature
@bvalentino
@bvalentino 6 жыл бұрын
Great find! This look ideal for storing 3d printing filament, PLA in particular, since is prone to absorbing humidity. Interesting stuff
@God-CDXX
@God-CDXX 6 жыл бұрын
you beat me to it I was thinking the same thing
@spikeydapikey1483
@spikeydapikey1483 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same thoughts !!
@janpetersen8441
@janpetersen8441 6 жыл бұрын
Me too, but they are a bit expensive for that. If you also open and close the container frequently, the drying time may be too long for it to be effective.
6 жыл бұрын
Same tough here. What a pity it doesn't look to be easily available for the general public.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
For reference, I store my LEDs in a sealed container with a silica gel desiccant pack in it and a humidity meter visible from the outside.
@ExperimentalFun
@ExperimentalFun 6 жыл бұрын
Can you try flipping it around to see how much will it increase the humidity inside?
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure it would. You can see the diagram that clive pulled out shows that it moves hydrogen out. I suppose some of that may reform to H2O but I'd expect it to become mostly H2.
@generaldisarray
@generaldisarray 6 жыл бұрын
You could probably use it to create a highly explosive high hydrogen environment... Like some comic bond villain, just waiting for ages for the hydrogen/oxygen level to be perfect for an explosion
@cmotdibbler4454
@cmotdibbler4454 6 жыл бұрын
hydrogen for squeeky pop fun!
@ToeCutter454
@ToeCutter454 6 жыл бұрын
can do the same thing with just a 9 volt battery and 2 wires... dip them into a glass of water and... science... can collect the hydrogen in a test tube to play with or go bigger and basically build yourself an HHO generator, of which there are several youtube video's on. FAR faster than something like this is going to produce! this is intended for removing hydrogen from the air versus producing it by breaking it down from water which is a far slower process than just using water and electricity.
@jort93z
@jort93z 6 жыл бұрын
The diagram he showed has the reactions happening below it. It says 4H+ ions react with 4 electrons and one O2 molecule. So you'd have the same amount of water on the other side, but less oxygen. At least if the formulas shown are correct.
@DrGreenGiant
@DrGreenGiant 6 жыл бұрын
That's a PEM fuel cell in reverse acting as an electrolyzer. It's not going to last long if it is starved of water, which in this case it will be. Needs to be completely wet and would still not last long. My whole PhD was on fuel cells. The fibers are the gas diffusion layer, possibly carbon doped with platinum.
@DrGreenGiant
@DrGreenGiant 6 жыл бұрын
Should add, means the dry side will be giving off hydrogen and the wet side oxygen. Won't likely give off ozone.
@DrGreenGiant
@DrGreenGiant 6 жыл бұрын
Should've watched the whole video before commenting... The low voltage is to reduce degradation of the membrane and pinholes forming which effectively short it out. But yeah look up PEMFCs as an electrolyser, sometimes called "reversible"
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
I did come across the PEM fuel cell membranes while researching this device. I wondered if they could be used for the same purpose.
@DrGreenGiant
@DrGreenGiant 6 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom if you're bored look up the "Helios" UAV. It used a fuel cell to power the motors at night then during the day used solar panels on the wing to power the motors and run the fuel cell in reverse to regenerate the hydrogen ready for the next night. Intimately resulting in an indefinite flight time... Until a motor failed and it crashed lol.
@15743_Hertz
@15743_Hertz 6 жыл бұрын
If I understand this correctly, the hydrogen is drawn out from the sealed enclosure leaving behind the oxygen. Wouldn't that be a corrosive atmosphere for the electrics inside it?
@ElementalMaker
@ElementalMaker 6 жыл бұрын
Man, now I REALLY want one! I bet the large version could really move some moisture.
@zh84
@zh84 6 жыл бұрын
9:00 "They didn't say that I COULDN'T take it apart..." When I was a wee boy I used to get into trouble with my mother over this logic. Responding "You never told me not to!" didn't really impress her.
@jjdynomite5757
@jjdynomite5757 6 жыл бұрын
My parents used to keep the toolbox out of my reach... then I learned that knives and other objects could act as screwdrivers...
@PinBallReviewerRepairs
@PinBallReviewerRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Haha I got into trouble taking things apart as well and not know how to put them back. xD As an adult I do the same and eventually find where something went.. xD I like taking pictures just for the reasons of where did that wire go or that component go on the board? xD
@jjdynomite5757
@jjdynomite5757 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing I was afraid to put under the knife was a TV set... The fear of lethal high voltages was very real to me ;) Eventually I braved the territory and luckily survived it! It's all pretty safe until you remove that capped wire on the side of the CRT! Unfortunately I learned the hard way that the CRT itself acts as a very powerful capacitor!
@dtec30
@dtec30 6 жыл бұрын
i was 3 and with a tyre spanner in hand trying to take lug nuts off of the car and mum had a fit at dad needless to say i wasn't taught much from then on
@leeh45ks
@leeh45ks 6 жыл бұрын
My mother said the day i learned to put things back together was a happy one for her.
@PatrickLeeUS
@PatrickLeeUS 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Clive, we use 4 of these in our weightronix scale enclosures that we have to keep pressurized with 10 psi of compressed plant air for intrinsic safety (I work in an acetylene plant) to wick passive moisture that the pneumatic dryers miss.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Lee For that application, does the generation of oxygen and hydrogen interfere with the intrinsic or other safety requirements?
@swcshorty
@swcshorty 6 жыл бұрын
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 good Q would like the A
@PatrickLeeUS
@PatrickLeeUS 6 жыл бұрын
Normally it would, however our compressed plant air is 70% nitrogen, 30% filtered air so as not to get excessive temperature swings under heavy compressor loads. So the amount of O2 is very low and quite rapidly displaced by the nitrogen. (Exhaust return line is on the bottom of the case, purging low lying oxygen first.)
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Lee and the hydrogen On the outside? Well, I guess acetylene plants are full of that anyway, right?
@BarryNuttall
@BarryNuttall 6 жыл бұрын
JPatrick Lee
@evanlabrant5448
@evanlabrant5448 2 жыл бұрын
These would be fantastic for desiccator boxes in research labs. We constantly have to recharge ours with fresh Drierite, especially those in the refrigerator. Or more realistically, they don’t get recharged and the chemicals are just kept at whatever temp/humidity is in the fridge.
@simonstergaard
@simonstergaard 6 жыл бұрын
According to the electrode reactions on the paper you showed, it does indeed make oxygen in the box. So it is making electrolysis on the water, and splitting it. Nice piece !
@Lenny-kt2th
@Lenny-kt2th 6 жыл бұрын
In the beginning, the humidity drop would probably have (almost) fully been caused by the rising temperature. Later, the lowering humidity would actually have been even lower because of the now lower temp. Temp has a big influence on relative humidity, so it would be interesting to see the same test under static temperature conditions.
@daveayerstdavies
@daveayerstdavies 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if (after the device has been operating for a while) the oxygen rich environment on the interior of the cabinet is going to promote oxidation of metal parts.
@Jeff121456
@Jeff121456 6 жыл бұрын
Oxidation is exactly what they are trying to prevent. I believe O2 is a double bond making it more difficult to oxidise anything.
@mahlapropyzm9180
@mahlapropyzm9180 6 жыл бұрын
Technically it is single bonded with two unpaired electrons (triplet) but a double bonded version can be created under special conditions which has alarmingly different chemical behaviour (singlet). I doubt if the oxygen concentration would rise significantly given the relatively small quantities of water vapour and the fact that it already comprises 20% of the atmosphere. The worst hazard would be that a smouldering object might burst into flame a little sooner.
@TheHouseBlog
@TheHouseBlog 6 жыл бұрын
The manufacturer's site says the device might increase oxygen by 1% and the hydrogen exiting the unit recombines with available oxygen to form water vapor.
@drutfurgeson
@drutfurgeson 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheHouseBlog im glad its not a high O2 concentration. I wouldnt want an Apollo 1 style disaster.
@maria50337
@maria50337 6 жыл бұрын
@Jeffery. What we call 'fire' is a fuel reacting with O2. It is highly reactive, from rust to bonfires to fats going rancid.
@SvenSchumacher
@SvenSchumacher 6 жыл бұрын
You just have to remember that the relative humidity drops even when the temperature rises. At the beginning it was 19.7°C and at the end 20.3°C. But still the absolute amount of water in the case has decreased. So the part works, but not quite as the % number suggests. The later values confirm this. Because although the temperature sank, the air humidity sank further. But the temperature must also be recorded, so that the statement is really accurate.
@AgentPothead
@AgentPothead 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that temperature is a big part of relative humidity measurements, but did we watch the same video? In mine the end measurement for temperature was 17.7C.
@andrewroxby4330
@andrewroxby4330 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rosahl for supplying this to BigClive!! What a fascinating piece of equipment Clive!
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the mesh stuff is simply to provide a large surface area to help moisture evaporate
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 6 жыл бұрын
looked like felt to me.
@johncspine2787
@johncspine2787 6 жыл бұрын
Molecules aren’t passing through whole..they are being split..
@OneBiOzZ
@OneBiOzZ 6 жыл бұрын
here i was expecting you to make a video about a cheap peltier dehumidifier and i was pleasantly impressed
@krnlg
@krnlg 6 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title I thought "yeah right, it's probably some kind of semi-quack product". Then started watching and thought "oh ok this looks interesting, but the temperature is rising - wouldn't that also reduce the humidity?". Now at the end - when the temperature had dropped and the humidity dropped still further - I gotta say, these things really are incredible!
@jort93z
@jort93z 6 жыл бұрын
it would, but i don't think it wouldn't be that much of a difference.
@vicpimm784
@vicpimm784 3 жыл бұрын
We had some products that needed to be kept very dry and unopened for many years. But they still got corroded. Despite extensive and expensive research some bright spark came up with the idea of sealing them up in the furnace area with very dry air. Worked a treat.
@AmericanLocomotive1
@AmericanLocomotive1 6 жыл бұрын
I suspect these are actually specialized fuel cells operating in reverse. I wonder if exposing one side to a very high humidity (say 95-99%) will cause an electric potential to form across the connection leads?
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 жыл бұрын
American Locomotive Water is the lower energy level molecule. More likely success is putting lots of hydrogen on one side, then getting electricity from the terminal and water on the other side.
@shaunewing8973
@shaunewing8973 2 жыл бұрын
you are an amazing engineer. I've got a long way to go lol. I'm getting so much better at repairing switching supplies now due to all the vids of yours that involve "boot strap circuits" and so on. when i do repairs, your in the background with a drink helping me out, I'm so appreciative of your channel. very inspiring ... keep up the great work , and cheers
@suzesiviter6083
@suzesiviter6083 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, never heard of these, thanks Clive. Imagine hundreds of these inverted on a barrel converting air to hydrogen), this could be a game changer as the tech gets more mature.
@markfaunce7744
@markfaunce7744 6 жыл бұрын
out standing I have a dehumidifier in my camper and it said no moving parts now I understand how it works thank you
@Drakey_Fenix
@Drakey_Fenix 6 жыл бұрын
These are almost like peltier plates but for humidity/liquid.
@chrisharper2658
@chrisharper2658 6 жыл бұрын
At first I was skeptical because the temperature was rising and that in it self will cause the RH to drop but after the extended run time where the temperature dropped back to or below the starting temperature, that removes that obvious variable. So, very cool. Thanks for demonstrating it.
@movax20h
@movax20h 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great device. Would be really useful for keeping 3d printing filaments dry in a box for example in storage. Sure you need power, but it is easier and probably botter to keep for long time than silica gel thingy.
@zachburke8906
@zachburke8906 6 жыл бұрын
movax20h good idea, if the box is small and sealed well the smaller models I would think should work fine.
@chriholt
@chriholt 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video - I had never heard of such a device or dehumidifying technique. Awesome of Westside to provide you with the samples!
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 6 жыл бұрын
8:50 "I can resist anything, save temptation." Oscar Wilde
@planetfoxdotnet
@planetfoxdotnet 3 жыл бұрын
It would be neat to see one of these built into a line pressurization system like the ones we use to keep water out of waveguide and coax. Right now we use what's basically a small air compressor with a filter canister filled with silica gel dessicant. It's kind of clunky and you have to keep an eye on the dessicant cartridge and change it every so often, something like this would be much cooler and less of a maintenance hassle.
@mavos1211
@mavos1211 6 жыл бұрын
Just got into bed and get a notification from bigClive I love going to bed with Clive! 😂
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 6 жыл бұрын
You could have saved battery, turned off notifications and just opened the KZbin app and gone to the Subscriptions tab!!
@PaulFeakins
@PaulFeakins 6 жыл бұрын
Admit it, you wanted the bath video.
@mavos1211
@mavos1211 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Feakins only to see if his goatie is as long as his scrotie 😂😂
@paulfeakins4026
@paulfeakins4026 6 жыл бұрын
mavos1211 hahahaha indeed!
@jellybean2032
@jellybean2032 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, yes he does have a very relaxing voice
@thesunexpress
@thesunexpress 6 жыл бұрын
Very very good move on the part of Rosahl & your shameless plug, to provide you with these examples. Been looking for something of this sort for ages. Internet shopping spree here we come!!
@JeffreyGroves
@JeffreyGroves 6 жыл бұрын
How much of the humidity drop is attributed to the rise in temperature inside of the box? Rising temps will decrease humidity as well.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
I wondered about that, but the dissipation of the device is equivalent to an indicator LED so it definitely wouldn't account for a drop to 33% humidity. The humidity meter does have a temperature display on it too.
@evilutionltd
@evilutionltd 6 жыл бұрын
The temperate may rise at first due to the higher power use but at the end of the test, the mAh is lower and the temp is lower too.
@JeffreyGroves
@JeffreyGroves 6 жыл бұрын
As you showed the results at the end, I did notice the dramatic drop in humidity with really no temperature change. So the device works REALLY well!
@roderickwhitehead
@roderickwhitehead 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. Shoulda scanned comments first.
@alfoncejean8826
@alfoncejean8826 6 жыл бұрын
@@JeffreyGroves the efficiency is probably shit thought, even compared to traditional deumidifier (but that should not be a problem)
@dogphlap6749
@dogphlap6749 Жыл бұрын
All new to me. Thank you Clive.
@plugandplayok7824
@plugandplayok7824 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant...Both the solid state dehumidifier and Clives explanation. As in another post below, it also reminded me of the Peltier effect as I was watching. OOOhh... I'm getting some ideas!
@Oscar-if6lq
@Oscar-if6lq 6 жыл бұрын
Lots of crappy made-in-china dehumidifiers use the peltier panels, most 'mini dehumidifiers' you will find on Amazon will use the Peltier effect. This is because compressors are expensive whereas peltier panels are cheap. The trouble is that peltier panels only remove a considerable amount of moisture from the air when ambient temperatures are high. Most of these listings advertise the daily water removal rate at 30C and 80% humidity, conditions we don't really get in the UK. I've previously owned one, but returned it when it removed just 40ml of water after 24 hours of use in a humid room. The only good dehumidifiers for reducing the humidity of a room in your home is one that uses a compressor.
@vasilitsigreece2785
@vasilitsigreece2785 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, never seen this component before. Intriguing! Note that %RH readings are significantly temperature dependent, and the in-box temperature dropped about 4 degrees as the night progressed in this video. This will have had the result that the actual %RH readings were even lower by several percent. As temperature decreases, %RH reading increases, all else remaining equal. Thanks for the video!
@gingerelvis
@gingerelvis 6 жыл бұрын
These look like they would be great for storing photographic equipment in damp / humid environments. I have lost a few vintage lenses to the dreaded fungus!
@alanmumford8806
@alanmumford8806 6 жыл бұрын
Silica gel packs are probably cheaper, 'rechargeable' and need no power supply.
@LuisLarreaJr
@LuisLarreaJr 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about this from my dad. He says a neighbor invested in this because he was get so much moisture he had to replace his floors every few years. After adding this kind of device, his moisture problem evaporated (or had it's H2 ripped out). :P
@pyromen321
@pyromen321 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long until some art student tries to make a self-filling water bottle out of that awesome device. Also, it's a pity you lost the footage of your bath. Next video?
@JamesAllmond
@JamesAllmond 6 жыл бұрын
They said have fun! If they have ever seen a single one of your videos, they know it was gonna come apart! Looks like a very useful product.
@wimwiddershins
@wimwiddershins 6 жыл бұрын
Is external humidity a factor in how low it can drive internal humidity?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
The difference between internal and external may have an effect on efficiency.
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 6 жыл бұрын
If it was trying to pump water through reverse osmosis you would think so, but it's pumping hydrogen. Wouldn't hydrogen concentration be the limiting factor?
@mahlapropyzm9180
@mahlapropyzm9180 6 жыл бұрын
AIUI, the hydrogen is reoxidised at the outer electrode back to water. I expect there is a rate limiting level of hydrogen ions that can reside in the middle.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool.. I had never heard of these devices before but they seem like they could be incredibly useful. I would bet that the fibrous material over the outside face is just a wicking material, to help draw moisture away from the device on the output (so it doesn't just build up on the outside surface, possibly reducing its efficiency).
@fn0rd99
@fn0rd99 6 жыл бұрын
More friggin alien tech being injected nonchalantly into the innovation stream, just like those radar modules.
@KericthePally
@KericthePally 3 жыл бұрын
Im actually finishing the writeup for my weather station project for Uni and this would be a great thing to reference as obviously the contents don't need to be in contact with water. Thanks for the video, definitely going to mention this technology
@supergeodotca
@supergeodotca 6 жыл бұрын
Good for making a 3d printing filament spool dehumidifier
@koz
@koz 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. :)
@ytfpv2627
@ytfpv2627 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that too! Would be great to store the spools, but I do not think it would dry spools that are already wet.
@JamesMossR33
@JamesMossR33 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, and I wonder if a small solar panel and some voltage controlling circuitry could run it. Julian Ilet would probably be all over that.
@thomasholst998
@thomasholst998 6 жыл бұрын
was thinking the same thing.
@ManIkWeet
@ManIkWeet 5 жыл бұрын
was thinking the same thing, a wee bit expensive though at 66GPB
@Workshop8191
@Workshop8191 2 жыл бұрын
These would be fantastic for CCTV applications. I've got a few questions. What's the operating temperature range? Would having forced air over the discharge side help make it more efficient? Another application I can think of is automotive headlights. They tend to fog up due to accumulated humidity. These should prevent that from happening.
@haroldsmith45302
@haroldsmith45302 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting product and video. So, if applying 3VDC to the terminals causes ions to move through the matrix to the humid side, resulting in a humidity gradient across the membrane, perhaps the inverse is also true. Hypothesis: removing the external voltage supply and imposing a humidity gradient in the correct direction across the membrane will cause the same type of ions to move through the matrix to the dry side (in an attempt to reduce the osmotic pressure across the membrane) and until the humidity gradient reaches zero, the ion flow will generate a voltage at the terminals that can be measured with a meter of suitable sensitivity. Is that a hypothesis that you could attempt to test for us?
@gelu88
@gelu88 6 жыл бұрын
This thing is basically a hydrogen fuel cell running backwards, so yeah.
@maglight117
@maglight117 6 жыл бұрын
Oh that gives me a great idea for a humidor. If it doesn't work on the inverse, I could just have two ports, with one pointing out and one pointing in, and have an mcu switch power to both depending on the humidity.
@dariankearns2333
@dariankearns2333 6 жыл бұрын
Drive it with an H-bridge and have just one device do double duty.
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 4 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that they added this video to their website
@williamthomasmi10
@williamthomasmi10 6 жыл бұрын
Your audio is coming out balanced funny ever since the last video. I think you must have a stereo microphone on the camera. I wonder if you could set it to mono? No need for stereo with just a voice over really
@rbhattastube
@rbhattastube 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for noting that.. I was wondering about the same.. I love to hear clear Clive voice and the new microphone based recordings are very unbalanced between L & R and it keeps changing as Clive Mitchell moves around and he does that a lot even though he usually sits down for presenting his videos.
@felixokeefe
@felixokeefe 6 жыл бұрын
Is that it? I was beginning to think my headphones had a fault.
@DooMMasteR
@DooMMasteR 6 жыл бұрын
he tried a remote mic in the past, if he still has the RØDE or what it was, he could place it about 1m infront of the camera, where it would give us the sound of being in the romm with him…observing his actions
@felixokeefe
@felixokeefe 6 жыл бұрын
Just watching some other video's. It seems I have a problem here. Probably windows 10 and my Soundblaster Z disagreeing again :(
@backfromcuba
@backfromcuba 6 жыл бұрын
Sound is not good at all and I'm on a mono tablet!
@XenonG
@XenonG 6 жыл бұрын
Great. Needed something like this for a humid room in the house.
@stuartmcconnachie
@stuartmcconnachie 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do, don’t tell FONTUS....
@clemenswalter1984
@clemenswalter1984 6 жыл бұрын
I just thought about when I finished the video, just to scroll down and see this comment
@amojak
@amojak 6 жыл бұрын
they have gone bust already :)
@stuartmcconnachie
@stuartmcconnachie 6 жыл бұрын
amojak I know, but a good scam never dies. Unfortunately.
@wolvenar
@wolvenar 6 жыл бұрын
Does exactly the opposite of what they need. This breaks down the molecular bond and separates the oxy and hydrogen atoms. Wouldn't be very much good for condensing water.
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 6 жыл бұрын
You would need two of these, one to concentrate oxygen and another to concentrate hydrogen. You then mix the two and get maybe 1ml of pure water per day, which is fucking stupid.
@carlubambi5541
@carlubambi5541 Жыл бұрын
We have used peltier module types in some of our enclosures .With a drain tube and fan 24v system .The cold side of the peltier plate collects the moisture and drips it outside via drain tube .We use it in wash down rated food production equipment .
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
Is it a custom system or a standard panel device?
@BrokebackBob
@BrokebackBob 6 жыл бұрын
Did you break it Clive?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
No. I reassembled it and it worked fine.
@BrokebackBob
@BrokebackBob 6 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom Whew! That's good. Seems delicate but pretty amazing.
@robinturner2300
@robinturner2300 6 жыл бұрын
He tried very hard... So he could have his bottom smacked...
@b4by_dr1v3r4
@b4by_dr1v3r4 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, if I made videos, they'd basically be this with worse audio so I really enjoy the way they're done - I'm glad I found this channel and this video helped me, thanks
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 2 жыл бұрын
Never get put off making videos by your own voice. Everyone else just hears a normal voice.
@JoelvdLoo
@JoelvdLoo 5 жыл бұрын
Why has the 3D printing community not pickup on these yet hmmmm :)
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 4 жыл бұрын
because 3d printers can't exist on a flat world :(
@TheDarkTiamat2011
@TheDarkTiamat2011 6 жыл бұрын
i love how you explain in such detail =) also your voice is really calming to my ears. i love watching your videos clive!
@akai454
@akai454 6 жыл бұрын
I'm buying these for water collection experimentation . 3V , I can use a lithium cell and probably solar light , WHO'S THE FIRST TO MAKE A SELF FILLING SOLAR WATER BOTTLE ?!?!?!?!?!???!!??!
@akai454
@akai454 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe a water collector for Your car ?
@akai454
@akai454 6 жыл бұрын
Bicycle ?
@leocurious9919
@leocurious9919 6 жыл бұрын
Cant work as it needs oxygen on the "wet" side. So once that is used up in the bottle... no more water.
@among-us-99999
@among-us-99999 6 жыл бұрын
But it chemically destroys the water?
@akai454
@akai454 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting , Thank You very much .
@TrollFaceTheMan
@TrollFaceTheMan 6 жыл бұрын
Clive, a man who's not afraid to take a bath! That's the type of man I subbed for!!
@rick_.
@rick_. 6 жыл бұрын
Well I for one am disappointed! Generating hydrogen and there's no KA-BOOM! Where is the KA-BOOM?!?
@timothybarney7257
@timothybarney7257 6 жыл бұрын
I was expecting an Earth-shattering KA-BOOM! --Marvin (the Martian)
@TheAmpair
@TheAmpair 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that research is underway, with or without the pie dish.
@HiddenWindshield
@HiddenWindshield 6 жыл бұрын
No boom *today.* Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow.
@Leroys_Stuff
@Leroys_Stuff 5 жыл бұрын
Earth shattering KA-BOOM
@Deneteus
@Deneteus 6 жыл бұрын
That outside part is called non-woven geotextile. It allows water to pass through it. It's there to prevent people from disturbing the membrane.
@proluxelectronics7419
@proluxelectronics7419 6 жыл бұрын
Fontus "self-filling water bottle" could have worked...Too late now.
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. Before I watched this video, I'd never even heard of electro-osmotic flow.
@korishan
@korishan 6 жыл бұрын
LOL 67% Humidity is "relatively high". 😆😂😆 I think Clive needs to come to Florida, USA and do this test. We normally have humidity in excess of 80% 😉
@TheRevWillNotBeTelevised
@TheRevWillNotBeTelevised 6 жыл бұрын
Not indoors. Most houses in Florida have air conditioning which dehumidifies the air. Also average humidity in the UK is similar if not higher than Florida.
@nicolaslosito5735
@nicolaslosito5735 6 жыл бұрын
Korishan what part of FL if you don’t mind me asking?
@turbopower130
@turbopower130 6 жыл бұрын
Basically most of the east coast, here in virginia it's always 85%RH or higher
@anonone2175
@anonone2175 6 жыл бұрын
turbopower130 No doubt humid and hot, much of UK is very often wet and cold, known in Scotland as 'dreich'!
@Jimmy4949
@Jimmy4949 6 жыл бұрын
I'm on the Virginia coast and right now the temp is 79deg and the humidity is 89%. We do have a hurricane knocking at the door, but last week nightime temps were dropping to ~70 and humidity was running 92~93% at night and 80% during the day with a temp in the middle 80's.
@gmeast
@gmeast 3 жыл бұрын
your videos have become a mainstay for me!
@TheOmegaFleet
@TheOmegaFleet 6 жыл бұрын
I really miss that in companies. They just send you stuff because you show your interested in the tech and wanna show it off to friends. Makes me want to go back to HAM radio.
@MAMDAVEM
@MAMDAVEM 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Clive, I’ve built a cabinet based arduino polytunnel control unit that sits in the polytunnel where the humidity is controlled at 70-80%. I’d always worried about the humidity in the cabinet so fitted a membrane “breather”. This technology sounds like it could be a good solution for me.
@matsuz100
@matsuz100 4 жыл бұрын
Bib Clive you are a fountain of knowledge, thank you.
@teemumyyrylainen9247
@teemumyyrylainen9247 6 жыл бұрын
Great finally see corporations that are proud of their product ( and one great product that is ) to start supporting you. This video cave me few good ideas all ready ... just need to check where to get these and how pricey they are for given volume needing dehumidified ...
@coltronex
@coltronex 6 жыл бұрын
IMHO one of the most interesting productions you have made so far!
@timokkhan9020
@timokkhan9020 3 жыл бұрын
May I propose an explanation for the fiber side? I guess it will increase the surface facing the air to be dehumidified, making it more efficient.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this could be used in a sealed, sub-ambient liquid cooled PC case to help prevent condensation. Lots of ideas!
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like it's the "humidity counterpart" of Peltier coolers.
@stewartcaldwell5299
@stewartcaldwell5299 5 жыл бұрын
That fibrous fabric looks like Tyvek or Typar, also called, and used for housewrap. It allows air and water vapor to pass through, but blocks liquid water. This helps a house stay dry when it is placed between wall sheathing and siding.
@CTCTraining1
@CTCTraining1 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Only thing extra I would like to have seen was another identical box sitting alongside without power acting as a control, perhaps protected from your lighting rig.
@emilee172
@emilee172 6 жыл бұрын
those temp and humidity meters are changeable the Fahrenheit setting is achieved by shorting 2 solder dots on the PCB , the board is marked C/F could always put a switch to change between
@Term-0
@Term-0 Жыл бұрын
It is kind of interesting how much it behaves like an led. It is also pretty interesting how it pulls the hydrogen atoms off the water, which is then transported to the other side where it combines with an O2 molecule to form another H2O. It reminds me of the electron transport chain (present in several cellular metabolic processes).
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 6 жыл бұрын
Anti-fogging headlights, what a sweet idea!
@leukostad1592
@leukostad1592 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this incredible electrical device! Could come in handy for keeping my cabinets with audio tapes dry. Reel to reel tapes benefit greatly from dry storage.
@acidtablockshifty
@acidtablockshifty 6 жыл бұрын
would probably be good for a projector too, that way you could use passive cooling and keep the unit sealed, and have no fans making noise say classroom or office, dead silent projector that would only need to be wiped down of dust occasionally
@robertsmiczsmiczamplificat593
@robertsmiczsmiczamplificat593 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome BC. They sound like a pretty good company, especially at customer service/support. It’s a very cool technology. I need to look at it closer. Thank you as usual my friend. I love your videos. I look forward to every one of them. 👍
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 6 жыл бұрын
Am very very impressed never heard of anything like this
@dancoulson6579
@dancoulson6579 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of building a spice rack in a cabinet. Perhaps one of these would be a good option to keep the air inside nice and dry, to keep things better for longer. But I think it might be too slow - By the time it starts to have any effect, it will be 24hrs later and be opened again. Perhaps a peltier system, with the cool side acting as a condensation trap would be the better option. They use a lot of power though, so a humidity sensor could stop it operating 24/7.
@Xesh001
@Xesh001 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a twist on the peltier heat pumps. Very interesting. As a side note Rosahl have this video linked on their home page!
@CZbanhof
@CZbanhof 6 жыл бұрын
That's a little fun device! Like an electronic version of those silica gel bags, except it's permanent, as long as you have power ☺️
@JWH3
@JWH3 6 жыл бұрын
It looks like after the intial turn on once calibrated the current usage can be used as a humidity sensor.
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Жыл бұрын
Dear Big Clive, Here is an idea. Take a box. Place the big water destroyer inside, both sides of it. Place a small cap full of water in the bottom, 20-50ml. Close the box. Don't forget to include a high voltage igniter and make a spark in the box after the water has all be electrolysed. This is a great way to turn a old 210 litre drum into a thing of awe.
@alexbik
@alexbik 3 жыл бұрын
Not to nag, but I noticed a change in temperature. What your meter indiates is actually *relative* humidity, meaning the amount of humidity relative to the amount of humidity air of that specific temperature can hold. So when the temperature rises, relative humidity will drop without loosing one molecule of h2, because warm air can hold more h2o than cold air can. In the end the temperature drops again and the relative humidity is lower than at the start, so we know for a fact the dehumidifier is working. The readings are skewed by the variation in temperature though. You could compensate for that by calculating the absolute amount of moisture from the relative humidity and temperature and then calculating what the relative humidity would be at a reference temperature.
@stormagheddondarklordofall7171
@stormagheddondarklordofall7171 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, Those are really cool and I could see a ton of applications for such a product.
@circadianrebel
@circadianrebel 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting to see these somewhere I can go easily buy one or two or three of them. I can think of some great uses for them. Well, three great uses.
@jaylittleton1
@jaylittleton1 6 жыл бұрын
According to their site there is one unit that will manage chambers up to four cubic meters, and can be combined with more if needed.
@kenw.1112
@kenw.1112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Big Clive for great videos!!!
@Cavalier_Steve
@Cavalier_Steve 6 жыл бұрын
Roshal must have been impressed with your video as they have even embedded it into there website along with a link to you whole channel. No smacked bottom I’m afraid. Cheers.
@ZeedijkMike
@ZeedijkMike 6 жыл бұрын
I first thought you were joking - Just had a look. It's not only there as a footnote, it's very visible. Vell done guys.
@peterg.8245
@peterg.8245 6 жыл бұрын
The lasers might be easier served by a small heater to keep the lens from condensating. Much easier to implement and no need to keep the outside dry. BP uses heater strips in their PLC enclosures in Tobago to keep the housing above the dew point year round.
@48snapper
@48snapper 6 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed a fascinating bit of kit. Thanks also for doing the close up focusing Clive. Since I recently recommended this technique, I'm modestly taking the credit! If only you could also be persuaded to ditch what looks like auto-exposure from 17:07
@NathanielStauber
@NathanielStauber 6 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to get my hands on a dozen of those. We are having moisture issues on some shipboard winches, which once were equipped with heaters for moisture control. The heaters are gone, and the drum switches to automatically control tension (fascinating devices in their own right) seem to have no humidity controls at all.
@leogray1091
@leogray1091 11 ай бұрын
This is really amazing tech. Which also surprise me the tech has been around for soooooooooooo long. 3d printing reallly needs lots of these, and guess what, nobody thought to use these! I hope Big Clive was a lot more popular to bring interesting tech to a lot more other fields of application.
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