Temu 100W LED floodlight is exactly what you'd expect.....

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@WizardTim
@WizardTim Жыл бұрын
About the "1B72C" LED notation, it's designed and made in China so, 并联电路 (Bìnglián diànlù) means parallel circuit, 串联电路 (Chuànlián diànlù) means series circuit. You'll also occasionally see the same notation for battery packs but it's a lot more common for LEDs for some reason.
@chrisprobert6
@chrisprobert6 Жыл бұрын
Above average KZbin comment. Excellent 👍
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisprobert6Hive mind at its best!
@OliveMule
@OliveMule 11 ай бұрын
​@benbaselet2026 we ain't on chinas team .
@PipeManPeep
@PipeManPeep 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the education. Useful to know.
@tyttuut
@tyttuut 11 ай бұрын
​@@notexpatjoeis your name Joe?
@nevar108
@nevar108 11 ай бұрын
It bothers me that we have services that intentionally scam people without recourse. Buying anything online takes a significant amount of homework, and people like you Clive, are essential in that purchasing process. Thank you.
@CRneu
@CRneu 11 ай бұрын
That's really why we really need to start blanket banning products from China. Products should be tested and certified by a non-china regulatory body before being sold in most countries. It would be annoying but it would be worth it to save lives/people buying garbage that's just thrown away.
@MrKillerno1
@MrKillerno1 11 ай бұрын
So true. Sad that customs does not do these checks, if that was possible, 80 to 90 % of imports from China would be send back. Wishful thinking is that China accepts laws that we all know about safety and so on, and prevents idiot designs to flood the world market.
@user-hr8pz6lh5w
@user-hr8pz6lh5w 11 ай бұрын
The sea of garbage is getting deeper.
@mickearrow8035
@mickearrow8035 11 ай бұрын
It also depends what website you are buying your products. If I want some type of quality I avoid these Chinese brand stores. Even if you don't get exactly what you are paying for, it is often better.
@clive3490
@clive3490 11 ай бұрын
A simple way to avoid being scammed is to see if the item is either made in china or sold by a chinese company
@mrsansen8619
@mrsansen8619 11 ай бұрын
Damn, it wasn't just two circles of yellow paint on a plank? TEMU are stepping up their "standards" and getting "better".
@stenstensson2086
@stenstensson2086 11 ай бұрын
Some would say shipping working but dangerous/sub-standard products is more dangerous than shipping something that doesn't work at all
@movingname3585
@movingname3585 11 ай бұрын
Its China what did you expect they build their shit like rebar that only bends 90 degrees one way and if you even tap the bend on something hard it shatters and have building not just collapsing but collapsing on alot of people and the reason you dont hear about it is because China is a dystopia world where your freedom is an illusion everyone has fallen for and at the same time have a scam culture where they litteraly just scam eachother like selling stuff thats 80% filler 20% product or putting so much carrogenan or however you spell it in stuff like with ice cream to the point it doesn't melt and when heat is applied it just burns But we should look at them as an example because communism is great and the ccp rocks and im glad to see Xi survive last months coup
@LordFalconsword
@LordFalconsword 11 ай бұрын
Just when you think Wish had hit bottom, Temu says hold my ginger tea.
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 11 ай бұрын
Well, people get exactly what they pay for. They want it for nothing, they get almost nothing. Temu isn't the problem here.
@theantipope4354
@theantipope4354 11 ай бұрын
NGL, I was suspecting something similar when I saw those giant yellow circles at the start. Like maybe a dozen normal size LEDs in the middle.
@uzimmermann
@uzimmermann Жыл бұрын
And from the look of it .. there was a place to screw in the earth wire directly next to it
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
Yup. A bit shallow and needed tapped.
@michaelmoorrees3585
@michaelmoorrees3585 11 ай бұрын
Extra screw cost and labor time ! You're FIRED !
@jaapweel1
@jaapweel1 11 ай бұрын
seems typical. they're set up to do it right if there's a potentially lucrative customer that really insists on it... but also very aware of exactly what they can get away with in practice
@aevangel1
@aevangel1 11 ай бұрын
​@@michaelmoorrees3585 _If they are so worried about cost, why did they spend the time and money to crimp a ring terminal on the ground wire?_
@ernieschatz3783
@ernieschatz3783 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if the Chinese are trying to say it has the equivalent brightness if a 100W incandescent bulb. I don't think they want to brag about it having a high power consumption. They sorta do the same thing here in Japan.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 11 ай бұрын
When testing current, if you get "zero", you should always double-check by testing with something you know does have some current flow, to make sure you didn't just accidentally blow a fuse in your meter without realizing it.
@deang5622
@deang5622 11 ай бұрын
Clive has a university degree in this subject.
@unbekannternutzer8506
@unbekannternutzer8506 11 ай бұрын
Besides you should change phase and neutral to see if there would be current flowing otherwise.
@deang5622
@deang5622 11 ай бұрын
@@unbekannternutzer8506 Nonsense. The same current flows in both. It has to by definition (except under a fault condition). So it doesn't matter which you measure
@unbekannternutzer8506
@unbekannternutzer8506 11 ай бұрын
@@deang5622 not If you measure against pe which is basically neutral
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 11 ай бұрын
That’s why I’m more inclined to trust a filament lamp-based tester. Meters are fine except when they’re not.
@nauroticdax
@nauroticdax 11 ай бұрын
printing out an enlarged picture of the circuit board for presentation is such an underrated move
@BobbyDukeArts
@BobbyDukeArts 11 ай бұрын
"The dremeling is complete and I've made a huge mess, this is not unusual" is the most relatable thing I've heard all year
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
It covers EVERYTHING in the vicinity. That's why the Dremel is the last resort.
@DeMaster1985
@DeMaster1985 11 ай бұрын
All year lol, it's like 6 days old XD
@gekkehenkie0001
@gekkehenkie0001 11 ай бұрын
Now that's comic gold ... "This is gonna get bright" ..... "It's 37 Watts"
@JP-rh7eb
@JP-rh7eb 11 ай бұрын
A somewhat irregular ECG printed on electronics always inspires confidence.
@phils4634
@phils4634 11 ай бұрын
Bradycardia with an interesting arrhythmia. No T wave in the first one, and the second T wave is pretty unusual I don't work in Cardiology, but even I would regard this as a bit sus . . . 😀
@joelmartin2549
@joelmartin2549 11 ай бұрын
Haha, that’s the first thing I noticed!
@joelmartin2549
@joelmartin2549 11 ай бұрын
@@phils4634, yeah I’d be suggesting we visit the ED if I found this on my monitor.
@OhShitSeriously
@OhShitSeriously 11 ай бұрын
Don't mind that, it's just there to save time for the coroner's inquest.
@MedicAthlete24W
@MedicAthlete24W 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@phils4634 the T wave could have a retrograde P wave or it could have a U wave. Those are really the only things that make T waves look like that. Sincerely, a paramedic
@TheReignOfRaining
@TheReignOfRaining 11 ай бұрын
I work in green energy. Your videos don't help me directly but the drawings do. Understanding what various components are, how to identify them and how they work in a circuit has been extremely valuable to me. All I can offer is a simple thanks... so thank you!
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 11 ай бұрын
Green energy as in nuclear, right?
@MMaddict187
@MMaddict187 11 ай бұрын
​@AverageAlien probably referring to the "green deal" getting us to pay as much "green" per kwh as possible?
@MMaddict187
@MMaddict187 11 ай бұрын
​@@Nnn-j7q sure NPC
@travisdickens4304
@travisdickens4304 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Nnn-j7qas an electrical engineer who has gone through school, he is 100% correct. The green energy edicts have been nothing but massive grifts.
@unlokia
@unlokia 11 ай бұрын
The rear honeycomb pattern is an encouraging sign that this lamp will beehive itself. 🐝
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 11 ай бұрын
Or, if you try to open it up, you'll probably get stung.
@AnonyMous-pi9zm
@AnonyMous-pi9zm 11 ай бұрын
Hexagons are the bestagons!
@lightningdemolition1964
@lightningdemolition1964 11 ай бұрын
The hexagons are more respected but the circles are the most respected of all.
@gerhardhaipl8680
@gerhardhaipl8680 9 ай бұрын
....being yellow, might encourage the bees.....
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 11 ай бұрын
I bought a similar LED lamp to replace a blown halogen jobby in my Mum's garden. The lamp worked OK, but the cable sticking out of the back was only 95mm long. I had to solder and shrink tube some more cable on, just to be able to reach a junction box on the wall. Then she decided the replacement wasn't bright enough... It now has an eBay 100W lamp, which actually draws about 105 watts at first, but quickly drops to about 80-85 W. It is using about 100 individual LEDs. We shall see how long it lasts.
@FlamJongUn
@FlamJongUn 11 ай бұрын
Not for long, I hate those individual SMD type floodlights. They're all individual points of failure
@starkelsesirap
@starkelsesirap 11 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to change the sense resistors so that it would put out 100W, see how long it survives.
@Colaholiker
@Colaholiker 11 ай бұрын
Not sure if Clive does any #shorts - but that would certainly be a good starting point. 😆
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 11 ай бұрын
It's good to see that they have done the enumeration correctly! FR and FR, R1, R1 and R1 and U1, U1 and U1 and C1 and C!. Perfect!
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 11 ай бұрын
I love that amazingly 1970s typeface that "100W" is written in. :)
@mikekerr9125
@mikekerr9125 11 ай бұрын
Now, I'm curious. A lot of LED lights broadcast their output compared to incandescent bulbs of a higher wattage. I wonder if that's what the 100W is actually referring to.
@mikekerr9125
@mikekerr9125 11 ай бұрын
@gazrgazr2394 when have you ever known chinese knock-off products to be accurate or complete in descriptions?
@oninbridders
@oninbridders 11 ай бұрын
Bingo. 100w old money - which is how Joe blogs 'measured' brightness before leds
@dreddwailing5505
@dreddwailing5505 11 ай бұрын
If it was 100W it would probably melt after a week or so
@joemendyk9994
@joemendyk9994 11 ай бұрын
Don't over think it. Their 30 watts of led is roughly equivalent to 100 watts of incandescent....in lumens. LED bulbs are labeled this way already. Nothing fishy here.
@JamesAAshton
@JamesAAshton 11 ай бұрын
@@joemendyk9994 100W incandescent is around 1500lm. 35W LED should be close to 4000lm. Any equivalence there is extremely rough. And you can't just write 100W if there's not 100W being used; you have to write something like "equivalent to 100W incandescent." You could never get away with putting this on a store shelf in a properly regulated country, even ignoring the floating ground lead.
@mxslick50
@mxslick50 11 ай бұрын
I wonder about the mains isolation holding up for any length of time, with the LEDS and especially the "driver" boards directly glued to the (not earthed) case.
@agy234
@agy234 11 ай бұрын
This brings me back. The first videos of yours I watched were early cheap 10w LED floods from eBay … it’s been 11 years now
@wisher21uk
@wisher21uk 11 ай бұрын
I always take power ratings with a pinch of salt nice work Clive 😊
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 11 ай бұрын
It would be easy to increase the wattage by simply installing a load resistor - glued to the case, of course. On the other hand, a resistor might cost more than LEDs these days. I’m being silly, it costs nothing to simply lie about the wattage, and of course make no mention of of the actual luminous output
@wisher21uk
@wisher21uk 11 ай бұрын
@@wtmayhew lol so true 😂
@mortenwinslw2785
@mortenwinslw2785 11 ай бұрын
Blue wire to L and Brown wire to N. Fantastic!
@gerhardhaipl8680
@gerhardhaipl8680 9 ай бұрын
...not to forget: yellow earth in the air....
@CoreyKearney
@CoreyKearney 11 ай бұрын
I remember when led's first came out they were marketed by comparing them to incandescent lights. Witch are sold using watts as the delimiter. So your 100w equivalent led would say so on the box, (not always with the equivalent distinction) even though it's draw is much less. It's been awhile but afik a lot lights are still marketed like that. The issue is the industry needs to move to using lumens to grade light output since that is independent of power draw when multiple technologies are to be compared. Could that be the issue here? How does that light's output compare to an incandescent bulb?
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 11 ай бұрын
That is my thought as well. 100W of equivalent light output when compared to incandescent.
@cncgeneral
@cncgeneral 11 ай бұрын
Have you seen lumen ratings on chinese torches? They just put random crazy numbers on. At least with wattage they know people don't want super high power draw so have some self control with the lies
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 11 ай бұрын
"100W equivalent" would still make these lights about half as efficient as modern stuff from Phillips and other major lighting manufacturers where ~15W LED bulbs are their 100W tungsten substitutes.
@julians6679
@julians6679 11 ай бұрын
A 100W equivalent LED should draw much less than 35W. Not even half that, so that should not be what they meant (or this thing is super inefficient).
@ajoshdoingthings541
@ajoshdoingthings541 11 ай бұрын
​@@julians6679I mean, these big LED clusters without any cooling in a plastic box prolly aren't gonna run too efficiently I guess
@alunjones3860
@alunjones3860 11 ай бұрын
The linear regulators are inadequately cooled, because the power consumption fell, after it had been switched on for a few seconds, which is indicative over-temperature protection circuitry being triggered.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS Жыл бұрын
Looked like a neat little enclosure. I was most surprised the front panel was real glass! I bet if there was a non-destructive way to open it up, it could be fun to zigzag some LED strips in there to make a cool little low voltage wash light, or maybe a strobe.
@antisoda
@antisoda Жыл бұрын
Maybe a proper heat gun and patience would do the trick, though the case might dissipate heat too quickly. Maybe using an oven? The glue might not react to heat before the innards let the magic smoke out anyway. …If the innards are worth saving, that is. Otherwise, crank that oven up. :)
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
It's a silicone style glue. It didn't let go with heat.
@Quickened1
@Quickened1 11 ай бұрын
It may not be non-destructive opening it this way, but there's nothing to stop you from doing just what you say, then resealing it any number of effective ways... Get on it!
@ItsMrAssholeToYou
@ItsMrAssholeToYou 11 ай бұрын
IDK what, if any, type of solvent can weaken the glue. However, regardless of how weak or strong the glue is, one could attempt to introduce a fluid (gas is easier, liquid is safer) through the power cable opening at sufficient pressure to force the glass off. Probably still break it, but prying was going to do that anyway.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 11 ай бұрын
A polycarbonate lens might be less breakable than glass, but that is probably asking too much from China, Inc.
@dedlord7153
@dedlord7153 11 ай бұрын
I'm a great fan of your work MR.BIG. Great videos, Thanks for many years of awesome entertainment.
@NightsReign
@NightsReign 11 ай бұрын
I just heard it twice, and I'm now forced to interrogate my memory... "Has Clive always been saying *_'Cink Palculator'_* and I just haven't been paying attention?!"
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
I said it accidentally once and it stuck.
@125brat
@125brat 9 ай бұрын
​@@bigclivedotcomOr was it maybe a smelling pistake? 😂😂
@nemo-x
@nemo-x 11 ай бұрын
I like the fact that the casing has the pillars for the screws and the LEDs have the holes for the screws, and they line up, but they just used glue instead to save costs on screws. SCREWS!
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 11 ай бұрын
I’m actually OK with the glue. The adhesive is probably fine, and this product was never intended to be serviced, so might as well glue it and save a few pennies. Where it fails is not providing a water tight gland for the cable and not providing a screw for the earth wire.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure my local hardware store charges more for a set of four screws than this entire product would cost from Temu.
@jonlitchfield8888
@jonlitchfield8888 11 ай бұрын
And i was thinking... Wow...glue - no expense spared!!
@Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum
@Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum 11 ай бұрын
I bought a too cheap leaf collector and it kept on falling apart. Now I have reworked it four times and it works. Replaced aluminium rivets by steel bolts, and so on. I also turned some things in the freewheel so that it is no longer one wheel drive. Not much money spent to make a better product. Most reviews were bad and one said that it wasn’t that heavy to carry to the waste dump.
@nickryan3417
@nickryan3417 11 ай бұрын
Probably also less likely to break. The pillars for the screws did look rather short therefore any screw going into them would risk either being largely ineffectual or just breaking the pillar. In this instance I suspect that while not repairable, the glue was probably the best choice given the case.
@tinygriffy
@tinygriffy 11 ай бұрын
Not only is it 100W and IP65 rated, it probably also is flicker free with a peak 100mV ripple noise a power factor of at least 94% and virtually zero feedback into the mains line.. also you can maintain every part with ease. What a brilliant product !
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 11 ай бұрын
Ease? The bloody things are siliconed shut...
@markbooth3066
@markbooth3066 11 ай бұрын
Given your user name @@sarkybugger5009 I would have though you'd recognise sarcasm when you saw it!
@jacklewis100
@jacklewis100 11 ай бұрын
"This is going to get bright" - You could have given us more warning!!!! Almost blinded me !
@GameCode64
@GameCode64 11 ай бұрын
Atleast they used Copper coated aluminum. I've seen Copper coated plastic wires (it melted at about 260c). I was shacked that that was used as a mains cable for 230v
@pbe6965
@pbe6965 11 ай бұрын
Surprised they also used 3 wires when the earth was not connected, 50% more expensive for nothing ... unless they want you to believe it's grounded, but I'd assume people fooled by these ratings with wires so thin would not know or care about grounding. edit : and even the ground connector inside the case, where no one would even see it ? looks like someone at some point designed it somewhat correctly, and someone else screwed it up later.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 11 ай бұрын
@@pbe6965 The earth wire even has a lug crimped on. They could have saved a penny and left omitted the lug.
@pbe6965
@pbe6965 11 ай бұрын
@@wtmayhew yep, I wasn't sure about the translation so I used "connector" instead of "lug". That part at least was almost done correctly, if only they tapped the case and add the missing screw. Or they could have omitted it and saved a few pennies as you said. I'm surprised they went "so far", and didn't commit in the end, either go all the way or remove it entirely.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 11 ай бұрын
@@pbe6965 Thanks for the reply. My reply wasn’t a criticism of your wording. Your comment is fine.
@pbe6965
@pbe6965 11 ай бұрын
@@wtmayhew I didn't take it as criticism ;) english is not my mother tongue, I intended to thank you for confirming that "lug" was correct in this context but it ended being lost in a reformulation of my message.
@doggwoggle
@doggwoggle 11 ай бұрын
I love that all the components have the same reference. Very useful.
@bastelwastel8551
@bastelwastel8551 11 ай бұрын
They been the same part tho..lazy chinese folks 😂
@jordanwaeles
@jordanwaeles 11 ай бұрын
makes you wonder how they lay out their PCB's, cause most EDA packages won't let you assign the same designator, or will change the designator when you copy & paste. Also loved the inverted L & N wire colors (not that it really matters for this circuit)
@bastelwastel8551
@bastelwastel8551 11 ай бұрын
@@jordanwaeles at least Altium will let you name them the same..but it will complain when you run any DRC, which you can just ignore. Guess other software will do the same
@doggwoggle
@doggwoggle 11 ай бұрын
exactly. @@jordanwaeles
@doggwoggle
@doggwoggle 11 ай бұрын
same reference != same part. If you want yo revise this and change a value, how do you specify which? "The rightmost R1"? (whose right?) @@bastelwastel8551
@GeneralPurposeVehicl
@GeneralPurposeVehicl 11 ай бұрын
The MOV being "protected" is actually a bit better than expected. I was not expecting one at all, much less a properly placed one.
@TuttleScott
@TuttleScott 11 ай бұрын
its so unusual I wonder if its even real.
@dean5263
@dean5263 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your time in showing us this unit. I often wonder what a real 100 watt light would look like, it is often thought by me that they must express that the light output is equivalent to a 100 watt halogen or such. Those liars!
@Tomazack
@Tomazack 11 ай бұрын
I grew tired of Chinese led lights lying about their specs, so I built my own 100w dual cob light some years ago. Can't remember the exact output in lumens, but it was seriously bright, and had an actual power consumption of a little over 100w.
@HytelGrp
@HytelGrp 11 ай бұрын
Hi Clive, You missed pointing out with the lose fitting wires that it is rated IP66 (a rating for electrical enclosures that can protect against powerful water jets up to 1 m of submersion). Possibly IP60. 40W, no Ground to earth, and wrong IP rating.
@matejkadlec2110
@matejkadlec2110 10 ай бұрын
I just love the L and N colors mismatched as well as all the component designators being same. Finest of Chinese lowend engineering!
@humfreee
@humfreee 11 ай бұрын
Good job! They've now removed this range of lights.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
Oh shit! So they have!
@twotone3070
@twotone3070 10 ай бұрын
To be rebadged at 200W I expect.
@gertbenade3082
@gertbenade3082 11 ай бұрын
With "copper coated aluminium wire" there's bound to be some schmoke sooner or later. Also, with 72 LEDs in series, if one dies, that entire chip is d.e.d !!! Great Viodeo, thanks Clive!😀
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
If one dies it may track across internally, causing the LED module to flicker until it finally burns clear.
@kevxsi16v
@kevxsi16v 11 ай бұрын
*When one dies
@ashleypreston6140
@ashleypreston6140 11 ай бұрын
White LEDs are generally Blue LEDs covered with yellow phosphor. Blue LEDs are InGaN, and have no bond wires in the actual LED construction. InGaN LEDs tend to short circuit when they fail catastrophically. So, unless there is physical damage and an LED is mechanically broken, the dominant failure mode is short circuit, to the rest will stay on.
@cameramaker
@cameramaker 11 ай бұрын
What a clever design! When one of the LED plates goes open, the second one gets double the current, and the light "just works" as if nothing happened :D
@thepowergorilla
@thepowergorilla 11 ай бұрын
Nice video! Thanks for confirming what we all suspected about Temu products. I say treat yourself to a new DMM :)
@seanbrockest3888
@seanbrockest3888 11 ай бұрын
Yup, I saw a 5000W LED Shoplight on Amazon once. I kinda wanted to buy it just so I could return it as fake. Can you imagine how much light 5,000 Watts of LED's would produce?
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 11 ай бұрын
How much was the world's brightest flashlight?
@deang5622
@deang5622 11 ай бұрын
​@@thewhitefalcon8539It would last all of 0.5 seconds as a flashlight from a portable battery!
@denisrhodes54
@denisrhodes54 11 ай бұрын
that would light up a worksite nicely
@seanbrockest3888
@seanbrockest3888 11 ай бұрын
@@denisrhodes54 as it melted
@seanbrockest3888
@seanbrockest3888 11 ай бұрын
@@thewhitefalcon8539 I don't remember, and it was all powered by DC, so I'm sure it calculates a little different.
@buffuniballer
@buffuniballer 11 ай бұрын
@2:00 - reminds me of a time where I didn't "put this back" and wanted to test the new 220v outlet for my generator at home. I went to test that I had 220v across the hot leads and BANG! Tripped the whole house breaker. The flashlight on the floor of the garage was the only light visible. I remember thinking to myself that I thought the light at the end of the tunnel would be brighter. Found about a 1/4" (about 7mm for those who don't speak freedom units) of one of the leads was missing. The fuse in the meter did it's job as did the main breaker of the house. Glad I was wearing eye protection when I was doing the work. I now remember to always put my thingy back where it belongs when I am done with it.
@ian-c.01
@ian-c.01 11 ай бұрын
They don't connect the Earth wire because usually there are live components in contact with the case and it will often go bang ! They realised that they can get away with shoddy design and workmanship if they don't make it safe ! They feel the Earth connection is more trouble for them but they want it to appear to be up to standard, to the Chinese appearance is most important, safety is optional !
@Damien.D
@Damien.D 11 ай бұрын
What a beautifully disposable product
@AMDRADEONRUBY
@AMDRADEONRUBY Жыл бұрын
I love floodlight related video including the cheap looking one like this .
@AnimationGoneWrong
@AnimationGoneWrong 11 ай бұрын
Another great video, Clive! Thank you... and a big congrats on crossing that magical 1 Million subscriber mark! WOW! ❤
@Aranimda
@Aranimda 11 ай бұрын
Technicians: Let's invent a light source that uses less watts. Consumers: Let's buy the highest wattage of that.
@mdb45424
@mdb45424 11 ай бұрын
Too be fair most laymen don't understand units. Thinking Wats or voltage for lumines
@LMinett
@LMinett 11 ай бұрын
​@@mdb45424it's completely understandable. Every time you buy a bulb, they give the wattage and compare it to the incandescent bulb equivalent. People therefore equate Watts to lumens
@KurtRichterCISSP
@KurtRichterCISSP 11 ай бұрын
The goal, of course, is to create a device that illuminates and only kind of acts like a space heater, instead of incandescent lights, space heaters that only kind of act like lights
@AnonyMous-pi9zm
@AnonyMous-pi9zm 11 ай бұрын
@@KurtRichterCISSP I'm always amazed at LEDs being able to draw half the power and put out 3x the light of incandescent, and from a dark yellow sodium colored light to full white daylight.
@JonWhitton
@JonWhitton 11 ай бұрын
Finest Chinesium. Love the floating earth wire!
@johnburns5783
@johnburns5783 11 ай бұрын
Of course the 100w refers to it chucking out the equivalent light output of a 100w incandescent light bulb. I have a 60w equivalent led lamp at home which only uses 12w of power 😉😉
@DavidSallge
@DavidSallge 11 ай бұрын
Well, that would mean that 100W equivalent would need 20W LED. The 38W measured would more be like 190W equivalent. Why haven't they advertised 200W then?
@SodaWithoutSparkles
@SodaWithoutSparkles 11 ай бұрын
nah. they will have a little disclaimer at the bottom with the finest text saying: "100W is just a product code. It doesn't mean it can output 100 Watts."
@DavidSallge
@DavidSallge 11 ай бұрын
@@SodaWithoutSparkles Sounds about right!
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus 11 ай бұрын
So much for LED being good then as 60w equivalent CFL's have been available for decades that only use 11w of power... I'd get a new LED lamp as Philips do 60w equivalent LED filament lamps that only use about 4w lol.
@aaronmdjones
@aaronmdjones 11 ай бұрын
@@FrontSideBus CFLs contain mercury vapour, which is a hazardous material. This makes their construction a lot more daunting and expensive than constructing LEDs, which are pretty easy to make. They also require more complicated driver circuitry; an LED only requires a constant current power supply, while a CFL requires a ballast (magnetic or electronic) to pass high voltage and get the heated contacts working before it can strike. So yes, LEDs are good, even if they don't outperform CFLs in brightness.
@SuperMickyChow
@SuperMickyChow 11 ай бұрын
One thing that's always true in life - the more heavily advertised a product or service is (expecially online) the lower the quality, to the point of many becoming outright scams.
@Darth-.-Vaper
@Darth-.-Vaper 11 ай бұрын
Hey Clive. Have you looked at the 100W lightning, micro, usb-c cables yet? Some have the chip and led others do not. I have a variety of them and none of them will even fast charge.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
Many USB charged products do not have the resistors required to indicate what they are, so sometimes smart chargers will not even put out power. It's a bit of a non standardised minefield at the moment.
@eeuwedevries
@eeuwedevries 11 ай бұрын
Then you probably dont have a charger that suports your required standard for fast charging. Most cables wil fast charge to 65w
@ano_nym
@ano_nym 11 ай бұрын
This comment reminded me that it took me a ridiculously long time to realize it was "big Clive" and not "big C live"...
@Darth-.-Vaper
@Darth-.-Vaper 11 ай бұрын
I have a proven Samsung USB C charger and just got 2 new s23s with no charger in the box but there was a C to C cable. BOTH cables throw a USB charging, please check your cables....etc. So I decided, for jokes really, to try these C to micro, lightning, and C cables with a nice clear window on the end, a stellar blue LED with 100W printed and a sweet looking chip in the window... these cables wony fast charge, but, at least they don't throw a USB charging error.
@Darth-.-Vaper
@Darth-.-Vaper 11 ай бұрын
I'm no longer DuBEuS....I have fully turned to the dork side. I am all that remains.
@SumNumber
@SumNumber 11 ай бұрын
Aluminum was never meant to be used in an electrical system . In America , some " genius " decided it would be more cost effective to wire homes with this product and many died as a result of heat buildup in the aluminum wire system and fire resulted and homes destroyed . Cutting corners in anything , when proper investigation is done and known problems exist , is the wrong way to do business with anything . But alas....those who wish to get rich the quick way disregard anything and move forward regardless of danger to life . Clive , this is the world we live in and one must be on guard . Thanks for your work in exposing many frauds that make it to the market place . Salute...as I sip my Sauvignon . :O)
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
It's still used in power distribution to deter copper theft. But with suitable pastes at the terminations.
@nemo-x
@nemo-x 11 ай бұрын
Look the case had no leakage from the live wire, which is just about as good as you can expect from temu, and it almost did half of what you paid for so i'd call this a win.
@The-Marshmallow-Cookie
@The-Marshmallow-Cookie 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks again Clive 😊
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 11 ай бұрын
I do Amazon Vine reviews and one of the things that I test on light modules and power supplies is whether they live up to the ad's wattage claims and whether they have a ground... I have found that sometimes it doesn't appear that they have a ground, but it is because of a non-conductive layer on the surface of the housing. Best way to test that is just to put the two probes of your multimeter on the housing and measure the resistance across it. If very large, then it has a coating on it and you might need to use the sharpened tips of your probe to get through the coating. Once you can show continuity across the case, use one of those points (where you've gone through the coating) to check continuity to the ground wire. With many of the lights, they make ridiculous lumen claims because they figure that most people do not have the equipment / setup to properly measure lumens. Meters for measuring lux are fairly cheap and the measurements are easy to make... As such, the sellers do not list a lux claim since it would be easy to verify (i.e. call them out for their blatant lies)... What I *can* test though is their wattage claims... If they say "100W", it sure as 'ell better BE pretty close to 100W or rating will go down... If they want to say that it is the equivalent of a 100W incandescent bulb, then they better say something like, "100W equiv" or their rating will go down... For power supplies, I measure the amperage and voltage going into the power supply and the amperage and voltage coming out of it... I use a piece of coiled NiChrome wire (salvaged from an electric clothes dryer) as a load resistor, varying the amperage by changing where I clip into the coiled section of NiChrome wire. I have found some acceptable things on Temu, but I've found a lot of crap there also... Same goes for AliExpress and Amazon for that matter...
@EntwistleDavid
@EntwistleDavid 11 ай бұрын
Good to see they got the live and neutral connections the wrong way round, to the board.
@ConstantlyDamaged
@ConstantlyDamaged Жыл бұрын
Almost as good a rating system as the 1,000,000mAh battery bank I found the other day, that was the size of my thumb. I wonder at what point their rated value will exceed the point at which it should collapse into a black hole?
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 11 ай бұрын
They should just start using femtoamphours if big numbers is the only need.
@MicraHakkinen
@MicraHakkinen 11 ай бұрын
@@benbaselet2026They get the capitalization wrong plenty of times too. It always amuses me to see a battery capacity expressed in Mega Amp Henries.
@esecallum
@esecallum 11 ай бұрын
can it be used to power a Tesla car?
@ConstantlyDamaged
@ConstantlyDamaged 11 ай бұрын
@@esecallum It's not hard to "power" a lithium fire. Generally you just need to wait for the power pack to become pierced and it happens all on its own.
@esecallum
@esecallum 11 ай бұрын
@@ConstantlyDamaged can the 1000000 mah power a tesla car?
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 11 ай бұрын
You are the quickest man with a dremel, the back of in one moment.
@MtnNerd
@MtnNerd 11 ай бұрын
TBH I read 100watt as equivalent to a 100watt incandescent bulb, which is 1600 lumens. This is quite common now when you go to buy lightbulbs at any US store. So assuming it's actually safe, I wouldn't want to return as long as it produces enough lumens.
@BunnyKins1970
@BunnyKins1970 11 ай бұрын
With that dubious earthing, it amused me that there is an irregular ECG readout on the front. 😅 💚🐇🐴💚
@OgOssman
@OgOssman 11 ай бұрын
Hahahaha my favorite part is the 100W light says 30W on the circuit board....
@richardbriansmith8562
@richardbriansmith8562 11 ай бұрын
Awesome Video Big Clive 😊
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere Жыл бұрын
37W was more than I expected TBH
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei 11 ай бұрын
It quickly dropped after he had turned it on. At 1:51 it was already below 33W so I guess it would settle at around 30W.
@markbooth3066
@markbooth3066 11 ай бұрын
In my experience, it's always the power board that they cheap out on. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they paired their 30W PSU with a pair of 50W COB's, but as you can't get the bugger open to replace the drivers, it's all a bit academic.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 11 ай бұрын
Based on the title of this video alone, and not having watched any of it, my expectation is JUNK. I will revisit this comment after watching the video if that was mistaken.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 11 ай бұрын
EDIT: after watching the video, it only ran at 40W but advertised as 100W - so not living up to the expectations that would bring. Having said that, my LED bulbs at home draw around 9W but claim brightness similar to 60W incandescent bulbs. I wonder if that 100W rating on this video’s light was something similar - intensity of 100W incandescent, not 100W of power draw.
@BluesyBor
@BluesyBor 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if this 100W isn't how powerful the standard lightbulb should be to match the brightness of this floodlight, while the actual power demand of this light is way smaller because it's LED. It was typical for LED lightsources sometime ago, and this floodlight doesn't even look as bright as a classic 100W lightbulb, at least on camera.
@johnwarwick4105
@johnwarwick4105 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. I think it just confirmed what most of us thought as soon as we saw it 😳. I wonder what it’s actual lumen/ watt output is, it’s going to be loosing as much power as heat through those two R30 resistors as the light. I dare bet those will burn out in no time at all carrying 30w
@bobbaggs6149
@bobbaggs6149 11 ай бұрын
Hi Clive. Is it the case that this could have been a good little unit if a little more money and electrical safety were involved? Just curious.
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 11 ай бұрын
As a 30W unit, and with a working earth wire, and better quality longer cord, it seems like it would be fine?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
Just connecting the earth wire internally would have made it an interesting light.
@kwhp1507
@kwhp1507 11 ай бұрын
I love the “cardiac rhythm” on the front of the light and box. It would appear to be bigeminy
@mogwopjr
@mogwopjr 11 ай бұрын
After the front falls off, isn't it common practice to tow it from the environment? Celotape for the fix maybe? - Thanks as always for the content Clive!
@MrAsBBB
@MrAsBBB 11 ай бұрын
Is it too early to wish you a Merry Christmas? I think no. To my fave electrical master I wish you and your partner a fabulouso Christmas and an even better New Year. All our love Alex and Andy xxx.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
No partner. Just me.
@MrAsBBB
@MrAsBBB 11 ай бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom didn’t know but love you for the fun and the work you do. I still remember the Alzheimer’s video you did. I often think about it. My dad had severe Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s well before it was diagnosed. Keep pulling everything apart. It’s really enjoyable. Again merry Christmas and looking forward to 2024
@robertsmelt6638
@robertsmelt6638 11 ай бұрын
I've spent a lot on Temu and had amazing deals but avoid mains equipment other than soldering irons which I usually modify to bring up to standard.
@veryInteresting_
@veryInteresting_ 11 ай бұрын
Interesting to see circuits hot glued to heatsink!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
It's silicone. They have the glue at the edge and heatsink compound underneath.
@rastimo229
@rastimo229 11 ай бұрын
Back in 2015 -ish I was still able to get a refrund from an Alibaba seller, of a floodlight sold as 50W. It had a measured wattage around 30, and it had a driver labeled as 35W inside. IDK if they removed the labels since, probably 99% of customers wouldnt bother (or dare) to check. It also had the ground wire loose, even though there was threaded connecting point. At least they were easier to disasassemble back then 😅
@FesixGermany
@FesixGermany 11 ай бұрын
If the earth connection inside is flipping around like this it might touch the circuit board at one point... BAM!
@wolfmobile3693
@wolfmobile3693 11 ай бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't that 100w rating mean that it's the light output equivalent and not that it uses 100 watts? I did not see you using a lux meter to test it's lumens. All you did was test it's power draw.
@microwave221
@microwave221 11 ай бұрын
LED replacements for incandescent bulbs sometimes have a label like that to give context for how bright they will be, but LED lights of this style are typically rated by the actual output, which can't be any higher than the input draw.
@califoo
@califoo 11 ай бұрын
Hard to tell, but it did look about as bright as a 100W incandescent bulb. It would be interesting to know the lumens. Drawing 37 watts for that level of brightness is unimpressive.
@califoo
@califoo 11 ай бұрын
@@Kevin-mp5of Do you go around the Internet looking for grammatical errors? Nobody said "it's" or "its" either. So your comment is pointless on multiple fronts. Congratulations.
@califoo
@califoo 11 ай бұрын
@@Kevin-mp5of more like off topic and nobody cares
@wolfmobile3693
@wolfmobile3693 11 ай бұрын
@@Kevin-mp5of Grammar Gestapo identified.
@zeberto1986
@zeberto1986 11 ай бұрын
You could add filters over the LEDs to create a 'Mysteron' look!
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 Жыл бұрын
Used to be the Chinesium ratings were 50% the actual but nowadays it's getting to be way under 25% so this one at over 35% is better than most.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 11 ай бұрын
this is Chynflation, numbers get lower and lower
@KingcoleIIV
@KingcoleIIV 11 ай бұрын
Gotta love the Cink Palculator.
@technodaz
@technodaz 11 ай бұрын
I've bought 12v 30w "cob" leds on amazon that ended up being 24v 100w and to be honest I've driven them at 28v and drawn about 150w a pop and as long as you keep them cold they keep on chuffing away. And if you ever question the power output its "its based on how bright they are compared to halogen lights , its the same light as a 100w halogen" , I have one cob here that's rated at 100w which was expensive enough at 14 euro , yea I can drive it to 300w no problem with a heat sink and fan. I don't believe the ratings on them at all , its more like their safe rating.
@xanderlander8989
@xanderlander8989 11 ай бұрын
This tear down was enlightening
@britishtechguru
@britishtechguru 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the Temu stuff can be a bit dodgy. I reviewed one of their "body camera" thingies. The build quality was pretty darned good. The image sharpness was pretty good. It was 1080P which was pretty good. I bought it as 4K though and it does have a 4K setting. The exposures were way off and could not be corrected. I wonder whether it's hackable... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJTcq2mFocp_nbs
@RonLaws
@RonLaws 11 ай бұрын
Won't lie, when i saw the thumbnail i thought this was some obscure looking cassette tape
@doctoroctos
@doctoroctos 11 ай бұрын
Temus 64% off sale wasn’t just price, but also watts. So really, it’s a bargain.
@AIJenkins
@AIJenkins 11 ай бұрын
7:40 - the case looks like a TV tray from bygone days. 👊
@phonotical
@phonotical Жыл бұрын
They can't even claim it's an equivalent wattage, because otherwise this would have been rated 264W 🤣 so bad
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 11 ай бұрын
Oh you silly westerner, the 100 W is just a model number, not to be confused with Watts at all ;-)
@phonotical
@phonotical 11 ай бұрын
@@benbaselet2026 for more information, reread
@johnthefactfddict3281
@johnthefactfddict3281 11 ай бұрын
aluminum(I am american wankers) is actually a fine conductor for power transmission, what bothers me about it is the prevalence of CCA without proper labeling I mean some high-voltage transmission lines are simple aluminum wires you shouldn't use it inside a home build with wood(the resistance of aluminum tends to lead to increased heating and insulation weakening) but in free-air or flame-retardant constructions(aluminum framing) I would have no issues with a properly designed lighting circuit I would be happy to use aluminum wire for the power(would not trust any normal person to be sensible with plugs, unlike me) what makes it suck is the difficulty in termination, CCA wire is an attempt to make it solder like copper, but sadly the coating is way too thin and weak to solder, you have to have very precise temperature to barely melt the 63-37 leaded solder(would not even try lead-free) and even then it quickly and easily fails to remain intact but a fixture that is limited to 40w and is intended to be terminated via compression-like connectors(wago/screw/wire nut/ect) it can handle a few inches of CCA just fine just please terminate using a ferrule because CCA is a nightmare to twist
@DJ_Cthulhu
@DJ_Cthulhu 11 ай бұрын
100W is probably the model number, not the power rating. That would be my excuse 😂
@BrAiNeeBug
@BrAiNeeBug 11 ай бұрын
I like how they Glued the HV Stuff right onto the Aluminium Case.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
To be fair, screwing them in hard can cause issues with differing thermal expansion ratios.
@valtrig74
@valtrig74 11 ай бұрын
No comment on the PCB's component numbering scheme?😁
@Legomanfred
@Legomanfred 11 ай бұрын
I don't buy from Temu or Ali BaBa, they're both owned and supported by the Chinese CCP. Great video! Thanks for sharing! 👍❤️
@grantrennie
@grantrennie Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Clive Have a great day 👍
@GatorGlider
@GatorGlider 11 ай бұрын
Perhaps it's equivalent to a 100w incandescent bulb? That's how the LED bulbs are marketed in the local hardware store.
@silverstrings5569
@silverstrings5569 11 ай бұрын
On a side note, the line next to the 100W marking looks like quite the unhealthy heartbeat.
@6969sparkyboy
@6969sparkyboy 11 ай бұрын
Why do I find your videos interesting lol they are interesting
@Drejjmit
@Drejjmit 11 ай бұрын
Would have been fun to see you push 100W into the LEDs xD
@StretchyRealms
@StretchyRealms 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Clive
@levieux1137
@levieux1137 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know about copper-coated aluminum. Now I understand how they manage to create that horribly fragile and poorly conducting wires! I'll keep the flame test in mind!
@eldoradoboy
@eldoradoboy 11 ай бұрын
its common, I run into it all the time in Low voltage data cabling... it causes issues with longer runs on POE+ 30W, the voltagew drop over distance is terrible on the stuff..
@Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum
@Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum 11 ай бұрын
Alumimium is not such a bad conductor.
@45KevinR
@45KevinR 11 ай бұрын
There was a period back in the late 50s, maybe into the 60s where the in wall mains cabling was CCA in the UK. Eventually it gets very brittle, so unscrewing a face plate is enough to break cores. There's also quite a bit of CCA in telephone wiring. My OpenReach phone cable through the telegraph pole is CCA from who knows when and periodically degrades or breaks my Internet.
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd 11 ай бұрын
"Temu is like you ordered AliExpress from Wish" - Attempted adaptation of a German meme.
@ConorNoakes
@ConorNoakes 11 ай бұрын
Those studs are possibly points for ejection pins in the mold
@CapitalNick
@CapitalNick 11 ай бұрын
Could the 100w be the incandescent equivalent in terms of brightness?
@0101100110
@0101100110 11 ай бұрын
There are rules for this > regulation (EU) 2019/2020, which is also still "adopted" by the UK
@Omapk
@Omapk 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if it means 100w by way of "100w incandescent equivalent" in terms of light output.
@ralphj4012
@ralphj4012 11 ай бұрын
Another superior product review. The doomsayer in me would love to know the voltage across the ceramic cap on the output of the bridge.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 11 ай бұрын
In the UK, peaking at about 340V. Some tiny caps are rated for that by having an internal configuration of multiple capacitors in series. But it's a bit squirmy.
@ralphj4012
@ralphj4012 11 ай бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom Ho, ho. I'll add squirmy to my repertoire. I did a rough calc and I think the resistive dropper should be roughly 330 ohm to drop enough to allow roughly 30W to be consumed, but a multimeter is always more accurate. Oh, to be a fly on your wall, or maybe not!
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