Biggest Moments From ID v Chad Daybell, Doomsday Prophet Murder Trial

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00:00 ID v. Chad Daybell 01:14 Biggest Moments from Trial 04:31 Expert Analysis Catch up on ID v. #ChadDaybell here: www.courttv.com/tag/chad-daybell/?

[@Kobibear1]

Please lord be with those Jurors to come to the correct decision

[@crash24420]

The thing about Tammy is Garth lied for his dad…he told his friend his dad wasn’t home when HE found his mother dead. But testified that his dad called him in there. Two totally different accounts.

[@deadmanswife3625]

Makes me wonder about zulema's son saying she wasn't there

[@wkjeom]

Garth loved his mom but was afraid of his dad. Garth was under a veiled threat from Chub. If you listen to Heather Daybell's interview with Lauren and John, she describes it. Garth could easily have been one of Chub's dark victims. Garth is probably still a bit afraid of Chub.

[@bobbicatt]

Emma lied too

[@peggiebecker655]

Each family member had a different death story, and told it differently to whomever they were talking with. She threw up, went to bed early crazy....

[@aprilstorm]

@@bobbicatttrue! I just can’t believe how Tammy’s own children are ! Why are they doing this, why don’t they care about their mom?!! When she was talking about her mom taking that coliotal silver and she said “ the reason I’m smiling is because instead of taking that, you should be seeing a doctor “.. WHAT !!!! She’s smiling about how ridiculous her mom was, wow 😮😡

[@shaynaletter5589]

Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.

[@OregonCrow]

ukraine lost

[@mylesbishop1240]

Dude looks like your everyday chump. Unreal

[@DarkCriimes]

@@OregonCrowthink the algorithm sent you to the wrong comment section comrade 😂

[@tonystevenson26]

​@@OregonCrowhow ?

[@snowwhite2524]

I hope that the prosecution brings recordings of Emma and Chad talking on the phone that prove that Chad coached Emma to lie on the stand. Chad and Emma committed perjury and they need to be held accountable.

[@georgannwayne492]

I hope so too….. The prosecution needs to prove Emma was and is lying. Period

[@kateashby3066]

Nope, if they were gunna do that the time was after Emma disagreed. But that doesn’t prove perjury anyway. Perjury means the person INTENTIONALLY misled the court and proving INTENTION is almost impossible. Humans forget and we misremember details ALL the time and don’t mean to, esp when years have passed. So unless someone admits on a recording that they lied under oath- they won’t be charged. Waste of money and time that the state doesn’t have.

[@kateashby3066]

@@georgannwayne492they already did. This is a circumstantial case so if something doesn’t add up- that’s considered “proof”. No need to hard evidence. The jury decided if she is telling the truth or not. And I’m sure they will decide that she wasn’t. There won’t be charges unless that recorded phone call straight up said “I’ll lie and say X on the stand”. And I doubt that.

[@madsdee7803]

I believe he's been coaching her through his lawyer Prior who is also her landlord. Legally he should not be allowed to be their landlord.

[@bevawilhelm5878]

Blake asked Emma about talking to Chad about something on at least one specific day (which she denied), which makes me think they absolutely have jailhouse calls to show Chad was helping her to “remember” her mother’s health history. He totally coached her, but I bet we hear that he did it ina subtle, manipulative way.

[@michellerock5019]

It would be great for chad to get 3 LIFE sentences without parole......so he can ROT in prison and SUFFER with the deaths he and Lori caused. . He will have alot of time to think of what he did....!

[@genelewis2481]

Possibly. However, my hope would be that he gets the prison justice that is usually administered to child milestones and killers. He will definitely need to be in solitary confinement. That would be a lonely remainder of his life.

[@MT-tx7bu]

I hope you are right.

[@privacyplease23]

Probably won’t last long. Prison justice.

[@jenniferrueger1694]

When Chad is in Prison for life, he still won't be able to talk to his murderer wife, right? Criminals can't talk to Criminals! 👏

[@genelewis2481]

@@jenniferrueger1694 that is correct!

[@bbaldwin2386]

Both daybell kids sound extremely well scripted. Like robots. 🤖

[@deadmanswife3625]

Yes. Crazy young adults

[@tammyweber8632]

That's exactly what I thought. Where is the emotion?

[@SD-co9xe]

Deranged robots

[@tanyachristensen5330]

They were raised by Chad. That shows through in my opinion.

[@bbaldwin2386]

@@tanyachristensen5330 they all talk like him and it’s creepy af. Brainwashed cult victims.

[@ghostdetectorsuk]

She knew where her children were at all times …therefore of course she knew they were dead 💀she is evil personified

[@aprilstorm]

And her statement in court was “death happens, there are suicides, drug interactions, natural deaths”… paraphrasing here but yeah, that’s her explanation for all these deaths, INCLUDING her brother Alex! 😮😮😮😮

[@margaretmorris-calderon2826]

Emma speaks like a robot, not human with feelings or expressions. Just flat monotone.

[@SilentThundersnow]

Psychopath in training. 👀

[@margaretmorris-calderon2826]

@@SilentThundersnow This is a crucial time in her young woman life to make very important decisions that will affect her mind for the rest of her life. She keeps ignoring the truth then yes, she’ll become a full blown sociopath hands down. If she faces her fears and opens up her pain and acknowledge her disenchantment of her idea of father and daughter relationship of what has actually taken place in her father’s greed, disconnect from having any emotions or respect for his children and keep her values of respecting herself and her emotions of empathy not being met by Chad his lack of compassion. To uphold how important those qualities of life’s true values in a human being she can save herself. But she doesn’t seem to understand how crucial and important those values are and her behavior in supporting a murder who doesn’t value respect of life is her choosing.

[@nychic2387]

Apple doesn't fall far ...😑

[@TheaDezi]

Emma is very very creepy

[@kathleenp9643]

The Emmatron 2000

[@susanbarton8873]

May Justice be served for ALL the bodies of these Innocent Victims. The list is LONG!

[@myunknownland9272]

He had 2,000 on his list of zombies. Glad we found them first.

[@sanster7700]

Chad's son and daughter came off as "mini-Chads". Very cult-like.

[@snowwhite2524]

💯

[@janetmosier9182]

Remember right after Charles was murdered Chad called the funeral home to find out about the cost of cremation

[@kateashby3066]

How very helpful of him. Joe Ryan also died young and was cremated. And Alex.

[@kathrynbaker7529]

He also told a bunch of lies when he called. Even changed his last name and spelling when the lady asked his name. I believe he said that Charles was his uncle, if I'm not mistaken.

[@Milodadooogy]

Just creepy 🤮

[@JaneJ993]

TY Vinnie. His kids lied on the stand. They were the only witnesses the defense had, and there were rebuttal witnesses to refute their statements

[@kateashby3066]

And yet she’s livelier than her dad whose got NOTHIN else. This is how many autistic people speak. You know who else speaks like this? Psych0paths.

[@nightwithout-stars1951]

Exactly, and just as the prosecutor pointed out on cross exam, Emma wasn’t even there that night and had no idea when Tammy went to bed and doesn’t know if she vomited. She’s only going off of what Chad the murderer said. Emma was a terrible witness.

[@corey5860]

She reminds me of Jodi Arias and Casey Anthony. Such a liar.

[@genelewis2481]

She’s a pathological liar. No doubt about it.

[@kateashby3066]

@@genelewis2481pathological liars are ppl who tell RANDOM lies for absolutely no reason. They do it as a compulsion, like ppl with OCD do. She hasn’t done that.

[@aprilstorm]

@@kateashby3066 what kind of liar is she? Do you think there’s a name for it? Thank you for explaining what a pathological liar is, I know someone who lied as a kid and now as an adult it’s worse, he is a pathological liar, now I know! There’s probably no hope someone like that will change..

[@rOnda88]

Yes, LV tells lots of lies- so many she can’t even keep up, nor does she care to. She was not concerned that the lies will get her caught. She believed they would get away with everything no matter what. I have known a couple of people who lie like Casey Anthony, but IMO, as far as beung in the public eye for crime… Anthony is numero uno “🥇” of the liars’ club.

[@Danxious]

They’re all psychopaths

[@lorae7]

Fascinating that the son could hear his dad snoring, but did not hear his mom coughing, or throwing up.

[@SendMeToTheVoid]

Good point!

[@juliewaite2174]

But heard the "thud" of his mom falling outta bed from his room. Right. Boy, please.

[@lorae7]

@@juliewaite2174 they think they jury is stupid however I am surprised the prosecutors didn’t make these obvious points

[@tigerlancer]

Getting away with 2 murders were next to impossible. Trying to get away with 4 murders was just absolutely insane.

[@kateashby3066]

Getting away with the first two (Charles and Tammy) was actually very very easy! Which is pretty scary! It wasn’t until the children were found that investigators were like “ought oh!, we need to investigate more…”. Yeah they should have folded that last hand instead of going all in! They would have completely gotten away with it, and been able to be together. Altho getting married fast was a really poor choice. Sometimes body’s get “dug up” for doing stup!d things like this.

[@tigerlancer]

@@kateashby3066 exactly. they were blessed Alex didn't blast Tammy in the face or law enforcement would have found the secret cells and everything would have come undone. They really should have put up with the kids' bs, instead of forcing their empty nesters situation.

[@dockaren]

If the AZ police had done their job, and locked up Alex for MURDERING Charles Vallow, it's possible that JJ, Tylee, and Tammie would still be alive. Alex was the hit man for the cult; nobody else had the nerve to do it.

[@tigerlancer]

@@dockaren possible? That would have been the only conclusion.

[@marcradzilowski7450]

The text messages just so creepy no matter how many times I hear that it makes me sick

[@nadzach]

Every time Chad talk about hurting the children or causing them pain, he follows it with hot sexual excitement. I think about a dozen horrible, horrible attacks on Tylee, especially to her pelvic area--Chad doesn't show it, but I am certain he quivers sexually at doing these perverse things.

[@lisagauthier-lx4th]

Its weird thats not normal thst got me to insane

[@mayamohamed9847]

Emma's voice and how she talks Yuki

[@lindalarson5468]

There is something very immature and trusting, childlike, about Emma's voice. It makes me sad.

[@kimberlyschleiger6196]

🤢she was hit with ugly stick, too😮

[@cglenn1457]

snce we know Chad likes Harry Potter, I'll just say Emma reminds me of Draco Malfoy...always talking about "my father"...

[@-Reagan]

@@lindalarson5468It’s commonly known as ‘The Fundie Baby Voice’ which is cultivated in these tight knit religious groups where women are very pressured, criticized and conditioned to play a specific role, subservient to their husbands and fathers, sexually available to husbands and innocent, and the prime example of a godly woman as defined by her place in the group (hierarchy) and her place in the home. The voice allows them to play a part that appeals to men and young women looking up to them and to small children who perceive them as safe, as they compel them to abide by the rules. They never seem to be pushy or nagging or have any agenda but they’re incredibly competitive, misogynistic, pressuring to one another, manipulative and skillful at gaslighting. Yet, they’re upheld as lovely examples of how a woman should be. Modest, humble, caring, generous, godly etc.. Their very appearance and demeanor (often, they seem naive to the world outside their groups, always very polite and soft-spoken) is all to get by in the community. It’s all conditioning from infancy to please and think and do exactly what their parents command. Due to overarching misogynistic principles and ideology those are edicts in the church of which they must abide. So, misogyny dictates practices and suffuses, permeating everything. Don’t be fooled by a soft voice and a childlike, angelic demeanor. This is a powerful tool that works like honey to lure bees

[@gacktist00]

i can't believe she can teach children. doesn't sounds like a teacher at all!!

[@MelSan-jc8nk]

Tammy was tried because she was the only one who was working a real job.

[@kathrynbaker7529]

Yeah, and how sick that she was supposedly so lazy and unhealthy. She's the one who put on 40 lbs. Sure! How horrible! He needs to rot!

[@loveforeignaccents]

"Tammy was tried because"... say what now?

[@PatriciaKeel-ig9ni]

I think they meant “tired.”

[@loveforeignaccents]

@@PatriciaKeel-ig9ni Oh, yes, that makes sense. Thank you.

[@ellebelle8515]

What is so outrageous is that Lori was gone for weeks leaving JJ with Kay and Charles while she was vacationing in Hawaii or wherever. Then suddenly after not wanting JJ, she insists on taking him back. Why? Because she obviously has a plan to murder both of her children so that she can use the social security cheques- as well as all the life insurance from the husbands she murdered- for her vacation life with Chad. Chad followed up with Tammy and collected her life insurance. Two despicable evil people who didn't deserve the good spouses they had, nor the children. With all the evidence, it is a shame that all this tax payer money goes into defending these two criminals who are clearly beyond guilty.

[@kathrynbaker7529]

100% I feel like Tammy and Charles would've made a nice couple! JS.

[@karen81986]

The police and detectives did a amazing job with this case

[@bcatblues725]

It’s just so heartbreaking that those poor children didn’t stand a chance against two monsters. Rest in peace, Tylee, JJ, Tammy and Charles.

[@snowwhite2524]

The jury is definitely going to convict Chad on all counts. I don't know if he's going to get the DP or LWOP. Regardless, Chad is going to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison. Charles, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy deserve justice.

[@H37P5kY57]

Don't be so self assured...look at the Casey Anthony case. Lady literally walked out getting away with murder and destroying her parents that loved her and her daughter enough to care for.

[@lisagauthier-lx4th]

​@@H37P5kY57yesh thats a different case look how many murdered and on his property the jury hopefully gets it right

[@Madmarsha]

Even if I take everything Emma said at face value, NONE of those things spells imminent death at any age. Let alone at age 49.

[@snowwhite2524]

There is no way that Emma googled the wind direction on Chad's desktop computer the night before Tylee was burned. Chad coached Emma and told her to lie for him. Chad is so selfish and evil that he's throwing his kids under the bus too.

[@peggiebecker655]

Emma would never have looked for that information, lying for old Chad

[@kateashby3066]

That it this is the biggest coincidence EVER, plus the coincidence of the raccoon text right after the kids died, PLUS no raccoon corpse to prove it!

[@lorikennedy1127]

Exactly. She contradicted herself saying she doesn't understand directions as far as driving then literally said she wanted to know which way a ssw wind would go. And for what event?? Why didn't they ask her that. Was the event a cult ritual bbq where they consumed a virgin. Gross but possible at this point.

[@Eclipse503]

That girl is special. If my kid is a student in her class, I will ask for a transfer. Creepy bunch!

[@kathrynbaker7529]

If she really did, it was only bc Chad asked her to Google that exact search, imo.

[@JaneJ993]

Wow Lori is nuts (in the video where they did welfare check). And those texts...talking about the kids on their death scale. It was both of them, not just chad, not just lori

[@kateashby3066]

You know she has 2 personality disorders and a delusion disorder, right? She IS nuts. She couldn’t even stand trial for the first however many months.

[@Jag...]

She still had the hots for him... Imagine writing that in the same texts discussing when and how your kids are gonna die.

[@joannemurdock7899]

​@@Jag...TOO sickening, they are both Evil, they both should get the DP

[@Jag...]

Lindsay Blake's cross of Dr. Raven was pure PERFECTION ✨✨✨

[@tidusjecht9143]

Conspiracy to commit murder, is saying you dont have to be the one who actually commits the deed. There are far more people involved in this than just Lori, Chad, & Alex.

[@tammymyer5347]

The Daybell kids are covering up for Chad. Tammy carried the family and was the responsible one and Chad was living in a fantasy world writing books of nonsense and pretending he was a prophet. You literally only have to be a baby Christian to know the things that came out of his mouth were not the word of God and made up fantasy. Who believes somebody that says they go in their closet and speak directly to the Lord all the while cheating on their wife lying living a life of ill repute. Insanity at its finest.

[@kateashby3066]

Sadly, Tammy was a sucker too.

[@amberchase7959]

100 percent agree

[@robinking6342]

I cant believe his kids got up there and lied the way they did. They should be charged with purgory or even charged as accomplices they know way more than is being told. Disgusting maybe they are scared of their dad idk either way its despicable

[@snowwhite2524]

They could be afraid that Chad will detach their spirit from their body or some other nonsense. Or they are true believers that Armageddon is coming and they are going to be Gods during the end times. 🙄

[@kateashby3066]

You don’t just go around charging people with crimes you have zero evidence to prove. You use logic and evidence, not emotion like you’re doing. Perjury is *internationally* deceiving the court to mislead them. If you know how to prove someone’s INTENT- go ahead and apply for the job as prosecutor because you’d be the first one. Unless she admits her intent amongst witnesses, there is no evidence of perjury. And def no evidence that she HELPED Chad.

[@loveforeignaccents]

@@kateashby3066 If you're going to go to the point of bolding a word, at least use it correctly. *Intentionally, not "internationally".

[@teambooth3612]

Evidence has shown Chad “Dabal” Daybell is guilty on all charges. How terribly sad and devastating. No one wins. The trail of devastation left by Chad and Lori, and a few other co-conspirators (some of whom testified), has traumatized so many.

[@helgagaines3598]

If I was a juror.I find him guilty. Their chat is secret and knowing of what they about to do. It is chilling to say the least.😮😮😮😮😮

[@marythomas1198]

Tylee probably cleaned her room because she feared for her life.

[@helenstockman3499]

Did anyone notice the satisfied look on Chads face when his kids were testifying? He looked like he thought that he had beat the whole case.

[@alphonsebladergroen619]

When the defense asked Garth was Tammy cold and stiff, to me is admission she had been dead for a good while.

[@deadmanswife3625]

Do you want me to call you later? Well you can try LOL

[@bamazing2731]

Lmfao

[@jenniferrueger1694]

What excuse does Garth have for not calling 911 at 1am??? They didn't call till what 6am?

[@Jag...]

Yes, imagine finding your mother dead and just scuff it off like, dad can handle this when he comes back home 😮 Those "kids" must have been brainwashed their entire life to not find any of this "strange" to say the least. As long as they are not un-brainwashed I believe they are just as dangerous as their father.

[@paulafoster2607]

How does a cold deceased body roll out of the bed?

[@nightwithout-stars1951]

So many weird and unanswered questions. 1. Emma explaining death percentages and connecting the soul to the body. Did she think she sounded normal? 2. Garth telling a friend he found his mom and his dad was not home. Where was Chad? What did Chad tell Garth? Did Garth wait a long while before calling police?

[@kateashby3066]

No Emma didn’t think she sounded normal. But she HAD to explain how her dad used those percentages to “help” her relieve her d3mon, I mean, her mental disorder (anxiety). She was trying to make it sound like a good thing that someone of the light would do. And if he’s of the light, then certainly he could never k!LL KIDS. As for Garth- Chad clearly got to him and convinced him that the detectives were evil and he was being attacked by the dark so Garth must defend dad and lie to give him an alibi. that’s the only thing that explains his two VERY different stories.

[@SHAWNEESKYWALKER]

​​@@kateashby3066 Are Garth and Emma that stupid ? Or are they just plain evil like him and Lori.

[@markbrookes6557]

The thing I like most about your broadcast is that I don't have time to watch the actual daily court coverage and you sum it up for me very well. I've been following this sick case since it came out. He's guilty as sin and it's a damn shame Lori didn't get the death sentence Chad will. They fed off of each others depravity.

[@lindalarson5468]

Excellent panel and you really pulled out the heart of the defense's case in a very succinct way. Thank you, Vinnie.

[@loveforeignaccents]

Watch Nate Eaton/East Idaho News/nightly Courtroom Insider. He lays out the day's proceedings nightly and does a phenomenal job!

[@raggedyann4372]

Hope he gets what he deserves in Prison!

[@Maria-bo6pz]

I hope he gets more than prison.

[@kateashby3066]

@@Maria-bo6pzhe will die naturally in prison. Idaho uses the firing squad yet they have NO facility for it. The DP is rarely used at all anymore it seems- across all states. BUT if he gets life, he will be stuck in a call all day for his protection. That is as bad as it gets! Death by years of solitude and boredom.

[@Punnoosia]

@kateashby3066 Yes, you are right. The only big exception that comes to mind is Texas. Their death chambers are very active, I am pretty sure. Texas is known for this and always has been. A few other states do use theirs, but obviously Big Pharma has slowed executions to just above a total halt. My own state has always been in the top ten or top fifteen or the most executions and we have not carried out a death sentence for years. I believe the last one was Dennis McGuire, which was considered botched as a direct result of the moratorium by pharm companies. (Ohio) Most death row inmates die a natural death. The thing that truly scares defendants in DP cases is the total and stark isolation. It will absolutely drive a human crazy. Their connection to other people is pretty much zero, and that includes prison staff. I know in the main women's prison in Ohio that the entire prison gets locked down if the female DP inmate has to be transported anywhere. She never sees another inmate.

[@kathleenp9643]

Chad was complaining about “vanilla sex” with dear Tammy. Lets see how he like Chocolate with Big Bubba’s storm.. Sorry, couldnt help myself.

[@karenjones350]

Lol

[@kraze401]

This "our producers narrating" thing yall do here and there is by far the best thibg court tv has ever done.

[@crystaldawn9255]

It absolutely was not the jail phone call that prompted law enforcement to search Chad's yard. Law enforcement clearly stated in testimony they didn't listen to that jailhouse recording until months after they had already found the children

[@beareeves4923]

The final rebuttal witness for the state was a young man who had worked with Garth at a Halloween haunted house multiple years in October. When Tammie died Garth took one day off. When he went back to work the testifying witness said he went over to Garth and offered his condolences. He asked what happened and Garth told him that he found his mother partially off the bed. She was cold and her lips were blue. His dad was not at home and he did not know where he was. Gath's testimony incourt was different.

[@kathrynbaker7529]

Yes and she was pale, he said.

[@kathleenp9643]

That was only the final witness for the day. Next week will be the impeachment of Emmatron2000. Can’t wait to hear those phone calls! Emma was not released from the subpoena.

[@judyhendriks4184]

More rebuttal witnesses will testify on Tuesday… more problems for prior and daybell

[@bobbicatt]

Ps…ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE TAKES ON A BRAND NEW MEANING FOR CHAD 😂

[@b.valentine5283]

Emma talks like Dr. Evil from Austin Powers

[@Jamie-ky7gz]

Lori said, I may look like a Suspect, but I’m not .. but nobody said you are a Suspect and at This Time, to what Lori 🧐🤷‍♀️❗️⁉️

[@aunc3281]

The testimonies of Emma & Garth just make me sad. Mr. Murray's isn't worth the time it took to hear it. Chad should NEVER have let his kids get on the stand, but it showed another layer as to the kind of person he is.

[@Weissguys6]

The laughing over J.J. who would have been 12 years old TODAY, was very unsettling. Read the room, Court TV. And please learn how to pronounce murder victim’s names, especially when they are children.

[@lanabarden7269]

So if his mother was already dead, then how did she get out of the bed? Garth said he went into help her and found that she was cold and stiff and she hadn't been breathing for a while so how did she roll out of bed, that is the question

[@mortalclown3812]

I'm surprised they didn't claim the supernatural gift of levitation.

[@Thats_Right80]

Yes, Chad is now 99.9% death percentage. He has been a ZOMBIE for quite a while now!!!

[@PS-sw7iv]

Haha we need to connect his spirit to his body or he will get zapped. Want me to check the percentage of Lori? She was acting a little weird this morning hahahaha

[@Thats_Right80]

@@PS-sw7iv lol

[@MiMi-js5nw]

Time is ticking…

[@SaffronHammer]

They aren't KIDS; they are in their 30's, married wiht children.

[@SerenDipity64711]

it really grates on me every time KIDS is said!!!!

[@lindalarson5468]

I think, though, they are so childlike in their devotion to their dad. They don't behave like adults with their own families.

[@kateashby3066]

Lmao “kids” mean they are his OFFSPRING. It doesn’t mean they’re under the age of 18 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@kateashby3066]

@@SerenDipity64711then y’all need to understand how English functions. You can be 99 years old with a 70 year old kid. Kid= offspring. Children also means that. There is no special word to specifically describe offspring over the age of 17 except maybe “descendants” and that is too formal and never used in layman’s speech.

[@Jag...]

They are HIS kids. When I comment on them and their behaviour etc I always write "kids".

[@southerncaltattooedbiker3643]

This has been a very long trial I sure hope that he is found guilty !!!

[@lorraineirwin6348]

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree

[@loislane856]

Tammy’s death is guilty definitely now after Garth’s co worker’s testimony. Garth has lied. Emma has lied. Garth can’t make his mind up what he done or seen. Both should be charged with co conspiring with their dumbass father.

[@garnetandgold07]

Honest question...why is Lori not needle worthy? They were HER KIDS!!!!!! Chad deserves every awful punishment as well. But WHY do taxpayers have to support lori!?!?!? NO JUSTICE!!!

[@sarahb2004]

I just want to scream WHAT DID TOU GENUINELY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?! Like did they genuinely believe that nothing would come from these two precious children just disappearing into thin air?

[@TalLeGal]

Vinnie’s right . . . it does matter.

[@angela5802]

His kids can try and justify chads messed up actions all they want !!! He's beyond guilty of killing Tammy and Lori's kids he was there they were found buried in his yard !!! I call bs he knew he knows he knew and he knows he killed Tammy for Lori period !!!!

[@catsanddogs8983]

I wish Chad would've taken the stand and talked about texting with Alex after he was already dead.

[@karenjones350]

🤣🤣 crazy!!

[@amberchase7959]

Charles and Tammy were 100 percent better people then Lori and Chad will ever be!!!

[@lawandcrimeteatime]

5:10 😂 did he really just call him Chad Digbell? 😂🎉😂🎉

[@kateashby3066]

Dumbell is far more accurate. Or Chud the spud.

[@sherryb4879]

Emma and Garth sound like Stepford children.

[@SilentThundersnow]

You guys don't understand what you're talking about. A diagnosis of exclusion isn't speculation or a guess. Prior tried to frame it that way , and you took the bait. A diagnosis of exclusion takes a list of what they are seeing as symptoms, and look for what things could be the cause of it. Pulmonary edema isn't an 'undetermined' finding. There are a list of things they can rule out that cause pulmonary edema. For instance, meningitis doesn't cause pulmonary edema. You can rule that out. The prosecution recrossed by asking her if she had been given information they had given to Utah ME, A. B. C .D.... She said no. So she didn't have the context they did. So she wasn't able to rule out what the Utah ME could rule out. For instance, her heart was healthy, so it was not caused by the heart. Poisons weren't found. Ultimately, pink foam in the lungs coming out of the mouth is a finding suggestive of asphyxia if the other things are able to be ruled out. It's a strong accurate diagnosis. There isn't anything else it could be. So it's not jumping to a speculation. It's a diagnosis. Defense ME admitted that she didn't have all the information that the Utah ME had. Utah ME had no reason to jump to conclusions. They didn't know her. But the defense ME certainly had reasons to call it undetermined. 1. She clearly prefers to call it 'undetermined' than do a thorough investigation. It's easier to go with that option. I've had professors who cut corners and had gotten lazy over the years, but their head was as big as ever, everyone else was wrong and they were right. 2. I'm sure Prior hunted for the ME that he knew was more likely to call it undetermined, either by hook or by crook. These people that do the court circuit make a lot of money giving the defense what they want to hear. It's a fact we don't want to consider, but it does happen. Listen to Lindsey cross examine her and her findings crumble.

[@joannemurdock7899]

Wow sounds like u know what u are talking about👍 TRUTH AND JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@noraoconnor1895]

Those two must be the thickest people on the planet, two kids disappearing, his wife murdered, claiming child benifits and thinking they would get away with all that ? Completely insane!!

[@hannah3146]

Those texts are insane causing pain to a child!!!! And Tammy's kids betrayed her its so sad. Emma the daughter lives in the house her mom got murdered and JJ and Taylee! Shes also a teacher

[@bobbieharper]

It was Lori that said "Here lets just dig up the backyard you'll never know what you might find or whatever. WOW if that wasn't telling! And again both had such evil laughs about it! And again Lori talking about the projects wanting to know how long the projects going to take oh about three mo's. I think she was asking how long do you YOU think it's going to take for them to find her children? Chad says at least three mo's. I think Lori knew they were recorded bc she was giving a whole of information of where the kids were buried. Code words BACKYARD, POOL, THREE MO'S. I think by now if she goes down so will he! Idk this whole thing just blows my mind!

[@rOnda88]

Also, Hawaii just happens to be another big LDS headquarters.

[@PS-sw7iv]

They definitely had the business plan to “convert” the Islanders. It’s quite sad I lived next to one of the churches in Honolulu for about 5 years lol

[@melissainaus7955]

I’ve been calling Chad ding bell from two years ago ,so I’m not the only one that thinks he’s a ding bell.haha

[@bronwyn117]

It’s remarkable that they thought they would get away with all of this. Charles, Alex, Tylee, JJ, Tammy…..all dead. And the attempt on Brandon’s life was very suspicious. May justice prevail.

[@kateashby3066]

All the narcissists do! They always make sloppy mistakes bc of how grandiose they are. Scott Peterson ordered p0rn while his “beloved” wife and baby (she was close to delivering) were missing. Like, common dude 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@gwendolynnorton6329]

Emma scares me. Garth seems far more reasonable. Does anyone else suspect he’s lying under oath because even with Chad behind bars the cult is still very much a real functioning thing and Garth is afraid of being murdered himself

[@sheckyfeinstein]

The former gravedigger is toast.

[@SerenDipity64711]

Why isn't he being charged with conspiracy for Charles' murder??

[@lindalarson5468]

He may be, but not yet. Remember, that murder occurred in another state so it wouldn't be part of this trial. Idaho doesn't have jurisdiction.

[@kateashby3066]

You don’t charge someone based on a hunch. You need proof and the state doesn’t have any on Chad for that crime. But Lori? Yes.

[@kateashby3066]

@@lindalarson5468if he was going to be charged it would have happened by now with Lori as a co-conspirator. He isn’t charged bc there’s nothing to tie HIM to the crime, just Lori. All he did was call to get a quote for a cremation. Looks bad but that’s not proof of much at all.

[@SerenDipity64711]

@@kateashby3066 in the text Chad talks about what WE did to Charles/Ned though so I am guessing at Lori's trial for the murder of Charles, it will come up then.

[@ShimmeringIceCrystal626]

I think they are waiting for the end of Lori's trial in Arizona to charge him.

[@kadobi189]

I’ll never understand why Lori wasn’t still under surveillance after the welfare check. How was it possible that she just packed up and left the same day?

[@SerenDipity64711]

the police went back the next day with a search warrant only to discover they had fled. It's unbelievable that they weren't watched!!

[@kateashby3066]

Because 99/100 people don’t just flee town and never come back when the investigation has barely started. That sorta thing is usually a last resort. I mean she just left half her crap and disappeared- abandoning her home and deposit. I’m fairly certain the cops did not have any reason to think that she actually K!LLED her kids at this point or she WOULD have been under surveillance (like Koehberger was). This was a turning point in the case where the heat went from a 3 to a 9 like THAT. And boom- arrest and then kids found. 😢

[@juliewaite2174]

Why hasn't anyone pulled Garths cell phone record to see if he really was on KZbin till 3am?! I'll wait!

[@loveforeignaccents]

Perhaps because he was watching from his laptop and not his cell phone.

[@tigerlily102511]

Chad was the catalyst for Lori's change but Lori was 100% there for it. Tylee and JJ were killed because Tylee didn't like Chad and JJ scratched Chad. Chad hated them both and considered them zombies

[@kconley87]

Tylee likely knew what really happened with Charles' death, but I think they just became a nuisance to her and the life she thought she would have with Chad. She really thought Chad was a better catch than Charles.

[@jcny11]

Actually, Det. Hermasillo said they didn’t hear this call till after the kids had been found.

[@rOnda88]

First & foremost- HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JJ!!! 💙💙💙💙💙We love you, & we will always remember- 💙💙💙💙 The world is not right without you & Tylee! Also not right without Tammy, Charles, & Joe!!! 2. IMO-The jail call from LV to CD about searching the property was orchestrated by Mark Means in order to make her look innocent - or at least less guilty. Obviously her trial regarding the kids is over, so this is nebulous, but she still faces murder charges in AZ.

[@blissiimo2064]

How could Garth work in a Haunted House - but his beliefs are against 'dark' . puzzling.

[@dayinthelifeofmycat]

Someone please tell Kelly how to pronounce Tylee's name.

[@Weissguys6]

It’s incredibly disrespectful to those who loved this sweet girl.

[@kateashby3066]

I also left a comment about how unprofessional she is. Her inflection is happy and excited when she’s talking about the children’s de@ths 🙄

[@dlvox5222]

The fact that these weirdos murdered family members, used religion as a reason, but engaged in sex acts that fueled the behavior is disturbing.

[@Cindy-gu3jv]

Him burying kids in his yard proves he was no genius, like Chad werent your powers working, uh they were watching you guys, your yard wasnt the smartest place was it? I just thought with you being able to talk to dead people, were besties with Jesus, could forsee the future you would have seen this all coming. 😂😂😂😂

[@snowwhite2524]

Chad's brother and his children said that Chad wasn't dumb enough to bury the children in his yard. They were wrong, Chad was that dumb and he deserves to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison. Heather Daybell was the only person who knew that Chad was that stupid and that Chad was involved somehow in Tammy's death. Chad and Lori are so selfish and disgusting.

[@karenjones350]

Very good point!!! They may have gotten away with it all if they had not buried them in his own backyard. They were evil and used God to justify their actions.

[@cheriehofmeyer3662]

Somebody give Chud some butter.. because he is TOAST! 😂

[@billfisher4156]

Vinnie, so funny 😂😂😂 "Look at him, he's 12 years old" 😂😂😂

[@fridaytieday]

12:26 More like Chad Dumbbell.

[@INAGUAPLACE]

I believe Tammy's children saw her as "dark" ,and was ok with her being killed

[@sunnyelanders9338]

Accusing her brother and dead husband of the very things she did with Chad!

[@dabestgrandma9843]

Lori was fishing knowing she was being recorded.

[@amberchase7959]

Chad's new book will be called "How the grave digger dug is own grave"

[@ferrari251]

The my brother and ex is trying to kill me for my $2MM life insurance policy tells us all we need to know. That’s a confession.

[@lisagauthier-lx4th]

Omg those text are messed up omg

[@margaretmorris-calderon2826]

I don’t find any credibility in Chad & Tammy’s kids. There’s just too much for them to process and understand it like an adult who has experience of somebody over 25. They’re just afraid of losing their dad. It’s totally obvious with Emma at the police car while her dad was in it without any words of understanding or compassion for his daughter. Nothing emotionally supportive out him for his kids and they just deny the obvious and do what every their dad tells them. It’s pathetic for them.

[@kateashby3066]

She was standing there crying and professing her love and he was like “yeahhhh umm about the house payment” 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@lovepet4565]

Why does it even matter? To me its folie de deux They a mutually insane together

[@bernieheartdragon1888]

(Tiny voice) “CAROLINE, GO INTO THE LIIIIGHT!!!!!!” That is all I hear when someone reads what dumb bell says that about JJ following someone into the light. You know..,,like Poltergeist 2? Anyway….it also makes me sad because just like with a Ruby Frankie and the Salem witch trials…there is no winning. If you draw crosses, you’re evil. If you destroy crosses you’re bad. If you hug a cactus you’re bad. If you don’t hug a cactus you’re bad. If you don’t admit you’re wrong you’re bad. If you admit you’re wrong you’re being manipulative. If you float you’re a witch. If you sink you’re dead.

[@karenbaldry8096]

Yep,same for that other nutter LDS maniac Ruby Franke. If this is what believing in God gets you I’ll stick to the devil coz I recon he’s kinder. All barking effing mad

[@privacyplease23]

Chad is in charge, always has been.

[@genelewis2481]

Who’s dumb and who’s dumber? And does it matter??

[@bonniemarsing701]

Chad also never said the location of the children. GUILTY!

[@kateashby3066]

I don’t see how that is proof of anything. He is saying that Lori didn’t tell him either- she kept it a secret from EVERYBODY. Says Chad.

[@JaneJ993]

I dont think theyre talking about an actual pool-hes talking about his convos with dead Alex and obviously the "pool" talk is code for their "project" of the kids, Charles and Tammy. But, at least it led the feds to the backyard

[@kateashby3066]

Yeah, it’s all coded language, the entire call.

[@JaneJ993]

TY Kelly. You did a great job🎉 Really great. I've been watching your recaps for weeks and they were wonderful

[@lisamoretti-ff1gq]

This is so sad. These kids have been indoctrinated