5 Horrible Lake Huron Disasters

[@BigOldBoats]

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[@petethebastard]

"I have literally never heard anyone describe Paprika as spicy"...???!! WTF? "Nice skirt, ugly boots"...

[@rottenroads1982]

The Music “A Web of Lies” by August Wilhelmsson is truly a magnificent peice of music to be paired with the Eerie and Cold stories of the Great Lake Ships that have Sunk and/or disappeared. Anyways, at 27:33, I would like to inquire the name of this piece of Music. I am not going to start a subscription for Epidemic Sound (because I already use Spotify). I just need to know the name at 27:33. Please.

[@dragongaming479]

the engine is compleatly missing from the hull it is the most tarifyingly cool thing this is on the waubuno

[@dragongaming479]

granted this was comented when a add was playing

[@travisthompson6959]

Since when does 11 meters = 25 feet?

[@LieutenantJason]

My great grandfather, William John Hurley Jr. perished on the SS Argus, his story is the reason I joined the Coast Guard as an AST, retiring in 2025, 20 years in all. Many thanks for the video, brother.

[@theWanderersnotebook]

Thank you for your service @JasonFireRescue!

[@chunkblaster]

Yall are the real MVP's

[@jeffmilroy9345]

Wow, congrats. 20 years is a lot of diesel-tainted mess hall coffee. Funny, once in a great while I catch a whiff of some industrial floor wax in some random office building and it takes me right back to 1980 boot at Cape May. That pungent floor wax sure put a nice shine on a set of boon-dockers. Until a company commander would notice it and grind it off with the toe of his shoe:) It was all downhill after the first wakeup though - that was the morning right after the Blackthorn went down.

[@GmonMacDady]

Thank you for your service to our country

[@laxplaya21forlife]

@@jeffmilroy9345i live in cape may lmao

[@elizabethbarnes9685]

After watching your Great Lakes videos I am even more in awe of my grandfather. He signed on his first boat in 1919 when he was 14 as a dishwasher and dogsbody (his words). He retired in 1975 as a chief engineer. He didn’t want to leave his engines, but at 70 it was time. 56 years on the lakes and didn’t lose a single ship. He told me once that he always worked November for the bonus money. My respect and admiration for all the men and women who lived, worked,and died on the Lakes. Without them our country’s growth would have been much slower.

[@landonhall4875]

My grandpa worked the dry dock on barges and some of the stuff he said he saw the boats float through was crazy

[@scottyfox6376]

Honour to our ancestors who worked hard & played hard building nations.

[@mommamimaashouse9511]

As a lifelong resident of Collingwood, Ontario…I’ve heard variations of these stories all of my life. The hotel in Collingwood you mention would be The Globe Hotel (built in 1865), later known as The Mountainview Hotel. The building was , sadly, torn down in 2012 and the property now houses a medical building. Our historic shipyard site is now home to hundreds of condos. 😔 I am, proudly…the daughter, granddaughter and great-granddaughter of shipbuilders and sailors. I continue to pass these stories on to my own children and grandchildren. ♥️

[@michaeltutty1540]

I will never forget being in Collingwood with my grandfather in the 1960s, and seeing the great ships still being built. I was in awe.

[@parentrap]

Yes it bothered me too.even seeing the old slips was at least some history. Sad money over history. It's upsetting that more and more waterfront is taken up by developers and access for general public is less and less. Used to see the water on the main drag (26) now you barely know water is there...town really destroyed views.

[@kittybitts567]

The man narrating these videos has a beautiful voice. It's perfect for the stories he's telling. God bless the souls of all those lost on the Great Lakes. May they rest in peace. May perpetual light shine upon them.

[@alecfromminnenowhere2089]

The old film you are using is incredible. The infrastructure along the lakes can still be found in places. I didn't realize that so much stock film footage was available. Great video.

[@SoloSailing77]

Back in 1983, I was on a 40 foot sailboat, racing in the Chicago to Mackinac that year. Almost right away, fog rolled in. We couldn't see our own bow. Next thing we know, and a much larger sailboat crossed right in front of us. Don't know how we didn't hit each other. Than we were sailing thru the straight between Michigan and the Manitou islands at night. We were riding the surf that was rolling North. All the sudden, the wind shifted out of the Northwest from due South. As the stern of the boat rolled up on a wave, we got hit from a wave coming from the NW which caused the front of the boat to submarine and lifted the stern out of the water. Never under estimate the power of any body of water. Water can become extremely violent in no time. All boats can be destroyed in a storm.

[@jeffmilroy9345]

I was on 41375 out of Wilmette Harbor coast guard station on a rescue sortie for a big sail boat race around that time. Maybe it was the same race. A big blow came up and we were going full throttle through 21 foot waves to get to the various boats in trouble. Its really sad to see big racers up on breakwater rocks and people get hurt. I remember one crew was determined to keep racing even though a crew had nearly severed a finger. We came alongside and the crew member had to jump from deck to deck while the racer was still underweigh. I was reading "Ten Hours Until Dawn recently" and learned the 41 footers were supposed to be limited to operating in 8 foot seas max and a couple boats and some crew were lost due to capsize. Very few people know how thin the rescue capacity is - often it's just one watchstander in a USCG radio shack that is the only possible connection to rescue.

[@gabriel7664]

​@@jeffmilroy9345Holy crap, both of your stories are terrifying to me. I'm in mid east Indiana. I'm a very good swimmer. I was an even better swimmer when I was younger....but that was in a calm swimming pool. I can't imagine being in danger in freezing choppy water. Just thinking about losing a boat and trying to survive scares the heck out of me. When I was 21 and single, I got a half ass job offer to work on a fishing boat in the Bering Straight. I say half ass, because idk if the guy making the offer had the authority to do so. He was the owner's troubled son. At the time I thought "Oh, that'd be awesome and I'd make good money and get a good head start in life." I never acted on it and I'm glad. I'm safe and doing slightly better than poor lol. And I'm good with that. Anyways, thanks for sharing your stories and listening to me ramble on lol. I hope all is well for you and your loved ones 🙏.

[@jeffmilroy9345]

You made the right decision. 95% of search and rescues are simple "oh, i ran out of gas" situations or such like in decent weather and a very slow boring ride home while you tow the disabled vessel back to port. Its when you are chatting with another coastie and they nonchalantly tell how once his crew was doing a very typical "flipped catamaran righting" (the sailor/s can get exhausted and/or hypothermic so a coastie gets in a wet suit and goes swimming and stands in) but this time suddenly the wind kicked up and he was quite suddenly hauled under by the rigging of the re-capsizing sailboat. He kept his cool and was finally able to resurface after cutting himself free from the rigging with his own bos'n knife. That makes you think a bit.@@gabriel7664

[@ronosga4391]

I was taking an 18' boat through the Manitou passage in 3-4' waves head on, when we got parallel to Pyramid point I caught two confused waves coming off the point. I steered into the vee of the two waves which were 6' and when we punched through we were in mid air to just drop, it was intense but we were young and invincible.

[@SoloSailing77]

@@ronosga4391 On an 18', I have no doubt it was very intense. I don't cut thru anymore. Plenty of water on the other side of those Islands. Season is getting close, can't wait! The largest seas on the Great Lakes I sailed on, were 10 to 12 footers with an occasional 15 foot house catching you. Ocean waves are totally different. Hope you still sail. If so, have a safe season!

[@giggiddy]

The vintage video segments along with the old style film format place you at the top of my maritime list. Your narration style tops it all off perfectly. Well done!!

[@mbvoelker8448]

Your documentaries are simply fabulous. Solid content with just enough drama -- no dumbing down and no hype.

[@The1nsane1]

Whatever you do, please do not change your video presentation. The music, the use of old B & W film and your narration creates a foreboding atmosphere that perfectly suits the stories you choose to tell. Have you thought of doing more nautical video tragedies from around the world? I understand the research would be harder but the results would be worth it. Well done.

[@XDrZaneX]

Was not expecting to hear Cleveland Cliff, my grandfather worked at a coal mine owned by them for many years. I didn't realize the name was so old. They were not very popular if you're wondering, but most mining companies aren't, it's rare they do well by their workforce.

[@marhawkman303]

Many industries live and die by a simpel rule: your product needs to be sold for cheap. So... production costs need to be equally low.

[@stuglife5514]

@@marhawkman303 Yea but, American coal miners and coal companies have an…interesting history. A lot of American anti corporation sentiment starts with the redneck coal miner rebellions against the coal mine companies. Bastards called in pinkertons, got tons of protesting and unionizing miners killed, until it reached a boiling point at the battle of Blair mountain. Yea, corporations try to keep it as cheap as possible. But the relationship between Americans and the coal companies (especially Appalachians) is so bad it makes Amazon look tame. Even in the places where the coal dried up generations ago, that sentiment is still there. The immeasurable suffering caused by company towns and indentured servitude by manipulative contracts had a massive impact on these communities. It makes the way Amazon treats its workers look saintly in comparison

[@717rocket]

Love your channel, just discovered it. I'm a U.S. Coast Guard Veteran who spent 3 years on the Great Lakes on a ice breaker. Love learning the shipping history on the Lakes.

[@Mattwest1985]

The captain life jacket story brought me to tears. Really hope that’s true lol

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

"What's this valve for? Keeping the boiler from reaching its bursting point? Wire that thing shut! We need MOAR POWAH."

[@jacobschahczinski1441]

Best friend of Charleston locomotive moment

[@THEGODROD]

I live in Michigan and love watching the ore boats. I’m currently waiting to see the Lee A Tregurtha pass by marine city. I don’t think I would have started ship watching if it wasn’t for this channel.

[@lapurta22]

I used to live in Fair Haven and spent many a summer evening watching the lake freighters pass by from the Marine City Beach park. I have seen the Tregurtha many times. Unless you saw one up close you'd be amazed that something so gigantic could move so quietly. Not surprising these ships go bump in the fog.

[@patriciapiper6294]

You speak so well. No filler comment, just the facts.!!! Great to listen to.

[@stew30]

I would love a video on the SS Keewatin! Great Lakes passenger steamer built in 1907 that is still around today!

[@TK-ri7pl]

As usual..... Outstanding research and presentation. The commitment to quality is off the chart.

[@jez6208]

Love your stuff mate. As a Brit who lived in St Joseph, Michigan for 3 years back in the late 80's, I'm always interested in the great lakes. Cheers mate. 😊

[@hollymartins6913]

Another excellent episode. From the calming, eloquent, narration to the amazing photographs and riveting text, you have set a high bar, my friend. Thank you! P.S. the music is perfect!

[@sebastiangroll3816]

Kali Yuga is also called the"Age of Iron " (Gold, Silver, Copper and Iron are other Names for the hinduist 4 Ages)... It matches the time of industrialisation perfectly - but it is somehow sarcastic... But maybe not ment sarcastic, but yust not knowing that Kali is also connected to death and darkness. Excuse my englisch , greetings from germany ;-)

[@JohnDavies-cn3ro]

Kali, I understand is, among other things, the Hindu goddess of destruction. Read Kipling's story 'The Bridge Builders', in which she makes an appearance.

[@travismiles5885]

I grew up in Port Huron, MI on the St. Clair river. There's some shipwreck monuments at the Blue Water Bridges. Cool video thanks for posting.

[@erbewayne6868]

I just moved back to Port Huron in February.

[@2nicnag2]

The way you describe things is incredible!! I rarely watch any visuals, just usually listen, and yours is one of my favorites when I’m cooking, cleaning, walking, running errands, etc

[@karaboo2u]

I love the way you do these documentaries! Soft voice, factual and I love the history behind all of them. Thank you for that! I wish more folks would take a note on how you do it! 👍😊

[@ColinFreeman-kh9us]

Geez young fella you do such a great service to the boat men and passengers that perished . Very well put together with your knowledge and enthusiasm all shining through in the finished product. AND. I’m not even into boats, I suppose a morbid yet be it terrifying interest in sinking sand their associated chaos

[@lucasread1743]

Thank you for another interesting and very high quality video about these mostly forgotten ships of the Great Lakes. Really appreciate it👍🏻

[@thejudgmentalcat]

My pea brain kept hearing "Wahcondah" as "Wakanda" 😂 I love these stories ❤ Edit: did I hear "SS Waldo" twice?

[@BigOldBoats]

You did! She got a mention in two of these stories.

[@g.b569]

Visiting Lake Huron so many time, it still shocks me how many shipwrecks there are in this lake. This video only emphasizes 5. RIP to all those lost in all those shipwrecks

[@georgewallis7802]

just a point of detail: according to some interpretations of the evidence, it might have been 'hydrus' rather than 'argus'. both sank in roughly the same area at roughly the same time

[@treborlive4546]

You do such a great job on these stories. Love the music, old films, etc. excellent channel!!

[@CS-ir9mo]

Nice 👍 job on the video! Men dedicated themselves to there jobs and paid the ultimate price give them a moment of silence to those that were forgotten and most likely never properly buried

[@MechaWolf0]

The L. C. Waldo sounds like it deserves a video of its own. Her captain and wheelsman braved the waves of the Gale of 1913 after her bridge was smashed. And she had encounters with several of the ships in this video. What more did she do?

[@Skaitania]

29:00 I always wondered that about HMS Terror and Erebus. Even when they are intended as warships, it'll always be the crew that has to live (and die) under such a dark name, not the enemy. It makes no sense.

[@j3dwin]

PhD historian Sean Munger recommended this channel. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

[@TimCook-zt8mv]

Nice seeing you on film it's very nice for me to be able to put a face to your amazing work thankyou for all the great content

[@rrmike90]

Great video! I'm fascinated with Great Lakes maritime history and I really enjoy your vidoes that cover this subject.

[@gabrielattridgefuentes4961]

The picture at 6:45 almost gave me a Gen Z heart attack(so basically a little bit of anxiety). I had the video fullscreen and I was momentarily convinced I had put a huge horizontal crack in my screen. Hahah

[@carlmanvers5009]

I hadn't seen the face of the creator on this channel before. Now I know what Clark Kent does in his free time when he's not being Superman.

[@semperparatus678]

Your research is absolutely amazing, please keep going. I always look forward to your documentaries. And it's very bad luck to rename a ship. Even if a new owner takes the ship, you always keep the same name.

[@amhelm86]

Kincardine, Ontario has a restaurant named The Erie Belle after the ship. We had a cottage near Boiler Beach.

[@edward9643]

Very impressed by the footage- obviously they arent from the actual disasters so someone must've done a lot of archival research to obtain close matches. Well done

[@justincancelosa5773]

Ahhhh nothing like seeing my fav vacation ground in a KZbin video and see all the corpses I’m surrounded by while chilling on the beach or going out on the water.

[@pfg_pedals]

I’m shocked to hear the Canadians refused to abide by the travel lanes. Ignoring rules because FU that’s why is more of an American move. One would think that after passing ship after ship coming at them head on the captain would voluntarily decide to follow the lanes.

[@420alphaomega]

Great video as always! Who needs netflix with all these great youtubers doing a better job 😂

[@SomeConch357]

the captain of the SS Argus was a real man sad he could not save any of his crew

[@jenniferlevine5406]

Excellent video - as always. So much history I haven't heard of before. Thanks so much for all your effort!

[@JDB-XIVII]

Always brilliant content with the most amazing(ly eerie) visuals. Thanks!

[@Nowee16]

I’ve stood on top of the Erie bell before I never knew what ship it was but now I do thanks for the history lesson I always wondered what happened to the ship

[@rottenroads1982]

The Great Lake Freighters are Cool. Especially the ones with the Pilot House Forward & Engine Workings aft arrangement. If only more ships were designed like the Lake Freighters.

[@postulatingspin4470]

Cannot believe somebody as sharp as you still live in NY….escape, escape, escape….before it is to late.

[@frankfrosolonejr7010]

I do a bunch of diving out on the lakes these videos are very informative and interesting to learn about some of the places I’ve been

[@chrisworthen1538]

Changing a boat's name brings bad luck is the old lore.

[@rougeneon1997]

Love the longer vids.

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

Just casually, re-floating, sunken boats, no problems here

[@kimdelong3429]

There was a time in the late 19th and early 20th century weather wise, that violent fall weather in the northern states was frequent. Devastating prarie blizzards S far south as Texas, and frequent artic blasts were trpical!

[@mikehenthorn1778]

Boilers don't " overheat " the pressure gets too high and the rupture. Now steam expands at 16,000 times it's volume when released from pressure. The Erie Bell could have blocked the relief valve to build pressure. It was a common practice on the Ohio and Mississippi River boats with sudden dismantling of the boat in its future. An engine blow would be bad ( steam flooding the engine room killing everyone bad. I hope they didn't have time to scream) . A stuck then released water inlet valve or an overpressure of the boiler would have disassembled the Erie into smaller than original parts. Scattering thep over a half to full mile radius. Yes I work on boilers as a day job.

[@Bryanja81]

The Argus sits in one piece on the bottom and was not in that area. However, its nearly identical twin sister, the Hydrus, was. Its more likely he saw the Hydrus crumble as its in pieces on the bottom and was in that area.

These freighters are not designed for extreme weather, the extremely long short sided profile and barely adequate power render them vulnerable to high winds and large waves. Rest in peace all the souls unnecessarily lost to November storms on the Great Lakes.

[@danielmoreau9822]

My guess on the name for the Kaliyuga is that the company saw that word and thought it sounded good and just chose it without looking up the meaning.

[@PattyMarshall-l8v]

The Witch of November came slashin'.

[@trevorstein4603]

Whos got the lowdown on the music? The opening music and the start for Kaliyuga are bangers.

[@kikuaviation3878]

That for the Kaliyuga was really haunting…loved playing that part on a loop.

[@spiralrose]

Great episode :-) Just FYI, though, your microphone is picking up the extended S-sounds in your speech. I don’t know if it’s supposed to do that or if it’s just not the right microphone to use for the recording you’re making

[@kimfleury]

I appreciate your research.

[@The_ROKCER]

28:47 you wonder about that name ? Franklin expedition! Terror and erebus!...i guess those where bomb vessels befor going to the arctic... but never the less!

[@shawnrae4022]

19:17 looks like footage from the most dangerous game…😅

[@ctk7790]

Thank you for another brilliant presentation.

[@MissHazeleyed96]

I grew up in Parry Sound and there's a plaque at Waubuno beach that talks about the disaster. Just one slight correction- your pronunciation of Waubuno isn't quite right. The emphasis should be on the end with the rest of the word said quickly, so more like "wahboon-Ohh" than "Wah-boonoh". Hard to describe, but hope this helps!

[@grannynara]

Interesting name for a ship, the Kali Yuga. In Indian Vedic scriptures, there are four Yugas when the earth is manifest. Kali Yuga is the final Yuga, where there is chaos and confusion, much quarreling and low morals. It is the age of iron, and irreligiosity. Whoever named that ship was familiar with these Yugas.

[@lynnschaeferle-zh4go]

*Presk Eel. If you’re not a local take a minute because viewers will be misinformed. It’s like saying San Frasisco or Lewisville instead of .Louville. My favorite was a news caster who said Trahverse City instead of Travers City. I guess he came from New Yuck.

[@KevinCerovich]

Holy crap I didn’t realize you looked like a buff Carl Sagan!

[@Mr107sam]

I love the choice of music!

[@workablob]

This is a fantastic video.

[@ryansroutes1805]

We paddled over the waubuno last summer on a canoe trip to Georgian bay. Very cool spot to paddle! The Massasauga Provincial Park - Georgian Bay kzbin.info/www/bejne/d33ViWCLnaekqNk

[@katfayegarrett3872]

Another great video!💙🩵💙🩵

[@orionwesley]

Sorry, that looked wrong after I typed it. I love this video because I thought you had to be a subscriber to watch your videos now.

[@kikuaviation3878]

As a Hindu, to know that a ship named the 'Kaliyuga' existed is kind of scary...

[@oliviawolcott8351]

feel like a ship named that is bound to have trouble.

[@kikuaviation3878]

@@oliviawolcott8351 Indeed!!

[@jamesswapinski9190]

As a non-Hindu..hard to relate on the Kaliyuga naming...but her violent end and utter disappearance certainly is strifeful.

[@roselightinstorms727]

Sad and beautiful endind

[@Megabob777]

R.I.P to all the sailors who lost their lives

[@Fvpigpen26]

Where is your donation link for those of us too smart to join. I do give coins as a tip, but I'm not a joiner of anything.

[@dragongaming479]

i have sean the ps waubuno with my own eyes

[@wm7089]

Looking good! Like the hair🙌🏼

[@billbino6560]

Nice vid B.O.B.

[@lockehaney3013]

I'm sure I know the answer, (money) but with the November storms being so bad , why did the captains continue to sail and risk their ships and lives. seems so stupid, or maybe one more could not hurt.. I listening to your posts, it occurs to me that November is not a good month to be out on the water of the Great Lakes

[@CharlieBooker00]

Wahcondah forever

[@kevinmcdowell9074]

Nice

[@jimwoodward69]

25 feet is only 7.6m not 11

[@eggsarehealthy7137]

BOAT MAN IS HOT WTF

[@P42_foamer]

The L.C Waldo actually ironically survived the storm of 1913.

[@Kroggnagch]

Kind sir, 25 feet is closer to 8 (7.62) meters, certainly not 11 meters. I only say this out of kindness, just as a constructive comment, tho it is impossible to give grammatical corrections without seeming like a total dick bag. But I'm not trying to be rude or insult you whatsoever, nor am I trying to be smug or arrogant, I am solely and simply trying to pass on info in the kindest manner possible.

[@GusVIII]

Maybe the owners thought the name sounded metal as fuck

[@silviofancyboy]

question; how many seamen had diarrhea during the accident? i heard many of the men got diarrhea before they died or drowned

[@petethebastard]

"25 feet or 11 metres"? That ain't right! ...

[@drumkidstu]

Will add that through recent research and information, Argus is actually in one piece capsized on the bottom of Lake Huron just like The Charles Price, John McGean, Regina, and Isaac M Scott. Ironically all these boats excluding the Regina were carrying coal and all have the same damage to the stern. Indicating that they all rolled, the cargo busting through the hatches leaving air trapped in the hull. Then they stayed afloat dragging their sterns on the lake bottom. The Hydrus carrying ore, was found right side up with the bow torn and bent at a 45 degree angle to the rest of the hull. Therefore the Hydrus is the ship that Iler saw go down. Because it was nighttime it would have been very easy to mistake the 2 ships as the Hydrus and Argus were literally identical.

[@jamesswapinski9190]

Agree with that... two identical boats.. foundering in same area..but the only the Hydrus has the structural damage witnessed by Captain ller.

[@dominikz.1376]

Should’ve checked the barometer more and been open to turning around and even park on a beach for a little while until the thunderstorm passed

[@denniscrane9753]

@@dominikz.1376warm weather in November in the Midwest/Greatlakes is always tailed by bad weather! Always!

[@kimfleury]

​@@dominikz.1376the barometer can change faster than you can blink

[@Madhouse_Media]

As far as the name of the Kaliyuga, I remember reading that the owner of the shipping line thought the name meant "age of iron". At one point he was told it meant "age of strife", but apparently ignored this information because he thought the name sounded good.

[@davymckeown4577]

I was about to comment on that ships' name for the same reason. The west has long been fascinated by eastern mysticism and with fact checking being much more difficult in that era the owners probably thought it sounded exotic. Even years later a movie producer thought "Krakatoa, East of Java" sounded more interesting than the more geographically correct Krakatoa, West of Java. I have to admit, the former does have a more appealing ring to it.

[@danielkorladis7869]

I mean it's a pretty metal name

[@perrinayebarra]

Still odd to name a wooden ship “Age of Iron”. I guess cause it was build to haul iron ore.

[@tmorganriley]

It might have been a conflation of the Ancient Greek categorization of the ages (i.e. Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age, and our current one, Iron Age). So if he thought it was just the Hindu version / translation (rather than an analogous but distinct concept), that would actually make some sense.

[@jamesswapinski9190]

Must have read that in the Dwight Boyer book "Ghost Ships of the Great Lakes"..the chapter on the Kaliyuga.. one the owners was Simon Langell,he named her.The attitude was "leave it to Langell,he's name her.

[@stevehomeier8368]

As I’m home on disability I’m able to spend the day binge watching your excellent content, thank you sir for an excellent diversion from my woes

[@manicmechanic448]

Lake Huron roll, Superior sings, in the rooms of her ice water mansion.

[@Just_A_Regular_Florida_Man]

The lady who begged her husband to not go that night, because she had a dream that the ship was sinking and that they would perish, probably gave him the biggest "I told you so" as the ship started to sink ... RIP all the souls involved.

[@jamesswapinski9190]

There is a persistent story related to the Waubano of alleged hauntings of the nearby Wreck island..several spectres in 19th Century garb...one of a woman who resembles the clairvoyant and unfortunate Mrs.Doupe.

[@adammisiable]

My ancestors ran a lighthouse off the coast of Newfoundland and ran ships between the rock and mainland Canada. It amazes me that any of them survived long enough for me to have ever inhaled a breath.

[@markstott6689]

I do enjoy hearing these stories. It brings to life how people lived, worked and sadly lost their lives on the Great Lakes in times long since past. One thing that I have noticed is that Lake Ontario doesn't really seem to feature that often. Is there any particular reason for this?

[@BigOldBoats]

I think it gets overshadowed a lot but I am planning on doing a video on Lake Ontario soon!

[@markstott6689]

@@BigOldBoats Excellent. I shall be looking forward to its arrival. 😊❤️😊

[@bee7137]

@@BigOldBoats yesss!!! i live on Lake Ontario and one of the most popular shipwreck stories I've heard growing up was about the HMS Speedy!! Can't wait to see a video on the Lake by my home.

[@Tindometari]

I don't pretend to be an expert, but this is the understanding I get from a few things I've read ... Lake Ontario's location, shape, and orientation cause it to have less intense storm effects than the other Great Lakes. It doesn't have the sheer size of Michigan, Huron, or Superior, or Huron's or Erie's inconvenient alignment with typical winter-storm winds. So it doesn't as often provide the sea-building fetch that the other Great Lakes do. (Meaning that because of Ontario's SW-NE orientation, winter storm winds from W to NW tend to blow across it rather than along it as they do on Erie or Huron, giving heavy seas less room to develop.) Also, the fronts generating winter storms that raise such violent hell on the upper Great Lakes tend to track toward the southeast, and their main centres of intensity track with them, along and across Erie and south of Lake Ontario. I've read a claim that Ontario's lower elevation than the upper Great Lakes also decreases the intensity of storms on it, but I'm very skeptical that the difference in elevation is enough to be significant. One thing that comes to my mind, too (though I don't know whether meteorologists have examined it; I could be off base) is that Ontario is more isolated from the other Lakes. Storms can easily move from Superior into Huron-Michigan (they're really one lake) without losing much power or wind speed on the way, but to reach Ontario they have to cross a greater expanse of land. I don't know how much effect that has, but it seems like a plausible idea.

[@markstott6689]

@Tindometari That's a fine response, and I thank you for it (oh lord, I'm sounding like Sheldon Cooper. I guess that's what you get after about 4 hours of TBBT. Sorry). Everything you wrote makes perfect sense. 😀😀😀

[@parentrap]

I remember very well living outside of Clinton,but on the still foggy still night I could hear the Goderich foghorn..that was the calm before the storm .."when the gales in November came early.. " then hearing the news the next day of the Edmonton Fitzgerald!! I remember it as if it was yesterday.. it was rare it was still enough to hear the foghorn from that distance.

[@opalishmoth8591]

7:22 wow… this detail somehow makes the story even more heartbreaking. The captain likely knew the freezing temperatures and towering swells had sealed their fate. But he still tried to help her defy the odds, at the cost of dooming himself. And even then, he also knew wearing a life jacket would greatly increase the odds the body would be found and recovered- giving her family closure