Add Cruise Control to your Motorcycle (Veridian Cruise Overview - V-Strom 800DE)

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[@leviefrauim1425]

I'll never understand why, in 2024, more bikes don't come w/CC. Good for this manufacturer for creating a product like this.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

it's even stranger when the bike has a throttle by wire and there is a very decent CC now on the 1050 so they have the tech.

[@kannermw]

It is intentional product/price positioning.They charge a substantial premium for 1000+cc bikes qnd one of the differentiators is desirable convenience features like cruise. As soon as they put cruise on the mid-size bikes they will need to reduce price in liter bikes to sell them.

[@VeridianCruise]

Your telling me! Even the cheapest car, Mitsubishi Mirage, has cruise!

[@kannermw]

@@VeridianCruise It is because on cars it became standard feature amongst manufacturers. On motorcycles it still commands premium feature price and throttle by wire to be safe.

[@tbillington]

Installed mine a few weeks ago on a Transalp after using the bigrock code. It's a great system, and happy that someone is offering a reasonably priced aftermarket option.

[@hailwood900]

Thanks Ian. I'll certainly be using your link for my 690R. In some ways, cruise is a bigger benefit for bikes than cars! I was a cruise control engineer for 10 years, starting in the mid-80's. The first systems had a pneumatic actuator with a separate control box. Then came stepper motor based fully integrated actuators. They were completely separate from the ECM, with inputs for speed signal, switches, brake/clutch, etc. 8 wires for I/O. Not the easiest to find a space to mount a 5 inch long box on a motorcycle, but we applied our system to the Harley Ultra first, and later to the BMW K 1200. Those were fun days of calibration rides and collaborating with the factories. This was in the AC Spark Plug division of GM, and we had 50 engineers doing cruise control design and system application! Of course, after that generation, cars, and later bikes went to ETC as you mentioned, and cruise became a software function and a switch, which is where we're still at. PS: I remember driving GM's first radar cruise car in ~ 1994. Funny how long it takes technology to get to the mainstream. I really enjoy your channel. Got some great ideas from your ES700 build. Keep up the good work.

[@BigRockMoto]

Awesome info. Thanks for sharing

[@jonwoodworker]

More 800DE content please.

[@BigRockMoto]

coming soon

[@notgamingwithmax]

Installed mine recently on my Vstrom. It works great. Just did my first long ride with it. I used it about half the time.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks for sharing

[@hdidane00]

Man This Bike Looks great realiability is probably why its so popular worlwide.

[@tomwagemans1872]

Cruise control was one off the reason I was looking at the aprilia Tuareg. This opens a lot of options.

[@art2587]

Same! Now I may reconsider the 800DE. Have no idea why Suzuki missed this opportunity..not everyone wants a ADV liter bike in order to get cruise control.

[@vittorioveltri7929]

The same for me. Tested both of them, loved both of them. The cruise control was the only detail that made me think about the Tuareg but with this veridian cruise control I'm rethinking about the 800 de.

[@vittorioveltri7929]

@@art2587 A lot of persons think that if they installed a cruise control on the 800 DE, the 1050 would have been dead.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

MCCruise is another company that has cruise options, even for bikes with cable throttle. It offers a servo system to pull the throttle in conjunction with standard throttle. Veridian looks to be the most plug-n-play system for TBW bikes.

[@skipstang]

Just added Veridian Cruise to my KTM 390 ADV and LOVE it! High quality parts and well thought out kit. Totally agree with you Ian, why don't more bikes come with this feature! Especially newer bikes with ride-by-wire throttle.

[@Xenogy1]

I’ve had it on my 390 adv for a couple months now. A lot of excitement my first time using it, then testing it on hills. Just like in a car. I only have a 25min commute to work but I still use it every day, even if just for a few seconds to give my wrist a break or to chill out in speed zones. It’s so easy to use I usually turn it on as I’m exiting the driveway. That way “set” is only one click away when I need it for the duration of my ride.

[@convextlc9767]

Ordered one in the pre order sales back in the summer for my base 800. Haven't used it too much but when I have it's been great so far.

[@breeno59]

Great product, great company. Installed on my 690 Enduro R and use it pretty much anytime I'm droning along on the way to the fun stuff.

[@BigRockMoto]

Right on!

[@yaitsred]

Thanks for the video, I’m all for cruise control on a motorcycle. I have installed a unit on four different bikes. My first was an AudioVox vacuum control for my 1990 ST1100 Honda, then I installed a Rostra electronic on my 97 and 2002 ST1100 Hondas. I recently purchased a 650 VStrom 2007 model which I will be riding up to Tuktoyaktuk next summer. Cruise is a must have. I installed a Rostra Electronic cruise control on it too. These bikes don’t have ride by wire so it isn’t as easy install as you had for the VStrom 800. McCruise is another option for the older bikes, but considerably more money and a much more involved install but easier than the Rostra route. Thanks for promoting this unit, it seems like a no brainer….. Have a great week

[@yamii2828]

Nice vid, I used your code and purchased a unit for my 2019 Africa twin in Australia. My only criticism is the tactile feedback of the buttons. They feel great on a bare thumb, but in gloves I can't really feel the cancel button as my thumb is big enough to hit the cancel and set button at the same time. As a result I dont use the cancel button, I apply the brake or open the throttle to stop. @veridiancruise If you ever create a switch like the KTM or BMW cruise control with an up/down lever to set and and a left lever push to cancel it would help with operating with gloves. I know this switch would cost more but I'd be willing to pay a little more considering this unit costs half the amount of alternative brands

[@bradjacobs1844]

On most bikes you can disengage the CC by tapping either brake, pulling in the clutch or switching off the CC switch. S/B that way on ANY CC system.

[@arepollo]

That and the custom seat I got for my transalp made the 7 hour ride to and from my last camp trip a breeze.

[@hankwojo]

Oh Yeah! I'll be ordering one of these! Thanks.

[@SpringfieldFatts]

Not having cruise control was the only 'poor tax' I'm annoyed about on my Street Triple R. If they ever do one for that bike I'd get it for sure.

[@roadwarrior8560]

Great, exactly the info I needed. thanks.

[@arthurcayer6630]

Nice choice of music.

[@Originalsinn_AO]

Where was the timelapse of realizing you don't have that one single specialty sized box wrench and going to Harbor Freight to grab it! :D

[@advredbikes]

Thanks again for this awesome product video, I think Cruise control should be on most bikes, I’m gonna have to check out to see if it includes my 2017 Africa, twin DCT thank you so much for that. I will check out your length below as well. Looking forward to your next video.

[@tominglis9690]

Would love to see your review on the carpuride.

[@Rainer.M67]

For my part, I will check whether the original CC switch from Suzuki`s 2024 V-Strom 1050 will work with the veridian cruise

[@bjrnhjjakobsen2174]

Mccruise from AU makes drive by cable cruisecontrols for various brands😉

[@darrenmurphy1046]

At over double the price.

[@bjrnhjjakobsen2174]

@@darrenmurphy1046 Its for "drive by cable" (not wire) - so a servo is needed - quite complicated actually.

[@kellencummings]

Just ordered

[@docwyte]

Want to add this to my 701, it's the one thing it's lacking for a longer ride

[@diegodelsol1309]

Hmm, that less than half the cost of the one currently available for my Triumph TS 660. Gonna keep on eye out for it.

[@isaiahl7727]

Need this for the T7

[@lifelivedfuller2388]

Hey Ian I’m sorry if this has already been clarified and I missed it somehow. Can the heated grips and the cruise control be installed and operational simultaneously? I take delivery of my 800de on Monday and am interested in the cruise control but also love heated grips 😆 thanks!!

[@Jaber8968]

Thanks for the introduction, it is a good option to add, can you please tell me which Carpuride model you selected for the VStorm 800DE

[@amolawati3548]

Mate, just love the content, I had a query, why does your bike look darker and meaner than mine, have you done any coating on it? Can you enlighten us, cheers

[@1LuckyB07]

For me personally, i feel like anything above what's considered a starter bike should have cruise control if they have ride by wire. No, it's not a deal breaker, but I just think it should become a more standardized feature. I'm much more inclined to look at and purchase a bike that has cruise, and I often find myself looking closely at the controls during a review to see if I can spot a cruise control button.

[@VeridianCruise]

We agree! Even the cheapest car, Mitsubishi Mirage, has cruise!

[@CraigSmith568]

I'm surprised Suzuki hasn't taken this bike back since they have a stop sale on these due to the tires. A couple of dealers near me have been holding a couple of them for a few months now.

[@BigRockMoto]

i changed the tires right away

[@ioandragulescu6063]

I would still pick the MCCruise version, even if it's more expensive. It has on clutch press disengage and one doesn't have to strip wires since it comes with splitter plugs for everything. Also the narrow control switch they offer will probably fit better between the OEM switch box and the mirror stem.. Which begs the question, how does the Veridian system behave when one presses the clutch with the CC enabled? Engine revs until 8000 RPM which is one of the disengage conditions? Not saying it's a bad system and it definetly has a good price, just stating what I would pick.

[@Xenogy1]

Veridian on my 390 disengages with the clutch. Cuts the throttle immediately. There is no splicing it was all plug and play into factory connectors. Blipping the throttle is my preferred method to disengage because it’s easy, my hand is already there, and offers the smoothest transition since you aren’t going into idle or engine braking immediately.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@Xenogy1 looking throughout Veridians implementations for different bikes it seems they are a bit all over the place. Some miss clutch disengagement, some have only front brake disengagement but not rear, some have all three. They probably want to keep the cost down but personally, I see it as a safety issue, hence my initial post about the MCCruise systems which offer all three disengagements for all their implementations as far as I know (haven't looked carefully at them all). The one thing that both companies don't offer and it would trully make their systems factory spec, would be disengagement on throttle off. While this would have been really hard I think on cable throttle bikes, it should be easier on throttle by wire ones. Though I don't know if it's a matter of procesing an extra signal or there needs to be also a physical alteration to the throttle mechanism itself.

[@VeridianCruise]

We felt the clutch disable is a bit unnecessary, clutch switches are placed such that the clutch is physically disconnected before the switch is triggered. So you can safely start the bike knowing the clutch is disengaged. For cruise this means you are going to free rev before the switch is triggered. We did add the free rev limiter just as a precaution. With the KTM bikes this data is on the CANBUS so its easy apply without another wire tap.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@VeridianCruise well I guess it's a matter of preference. I would argue though that clutch slippage is smth people normally do in 1st gear where the CC is out of the question. In normal operation people will just press it all the way. And if it slips and the revs go up, than a disengage can be programmed in for an abrupt increase in revs. The MCCruise has this behavior if I remember correctly. Also, this is the behavior of the OEM CC I currently have on my 1050 strom. Nonetheless, keep up the good work, it's good for people to have options when the manufacturers "forget" about CC :)

[@alphawolfxz3497]

How does it handle in case you have to do an emergency stop

[@cpbremote]

Brake light signal (front or back) turns cruise off, as does hitting 8k rpm for example if you grab the clutch and do nothing else.

[@F3udF1st]

Montage music reminds me of John Hiatt.

[@paulcoverdale8312]

Yup that looked a pain in the ass🎃🎃🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️

[@h8510129]

i wish they made one for triumph speed twin edit: i see that on the website they are working on it!!!

[@cblais19]

To your question last 800DE video: I also find the heat absolutely distracting shading into unbearable when it's >85f. Turns what should be nice (if sweaty) summer rides into something I just can't enjoy. Turns out I just notice that stuff enough, same reason I've been passing on the Tuareg 660 despite all the raves.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

If you're not willing to swap exhaust and get ECU flash, you'll have to live with the emissions heat. It's a lean operating condition that manufacturers are saddled with (to meet tailpipe emissions standards at certain RPM) which produces the additional and excessive heat. They want the catalytic converter nuclear hot.

[@cblais19]

@@exothermal.sprocket naw, my Euro 5 T7 had no heat. The Transalp (which makes more power!) has no heat. The Ducati DesertX has no heat on the move. Suzuki in fact engineered guards so that there’s minimal heat on the left, but the right side gets heat channeled directly on your knee. It’s simply poor engineering, and not from the cat.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@cblais19 Poor engineering. Haha. Get it tuned, no more heat problems.

[@slalomking]

KLR does not burn legs

[@jackvliet]

​@exothermal.sprocket why are you making excuses for manufacturers when there are many bikes that don't have that issue?

[@fwijffels]

How well does it react to changes in the slope? Good systems are well in noticing a speed decline when driving up a hill and keeping the original speed, others are slow to respond and by the time you crossed the hill, it is still accelerating. Any feedback?

[@yamii2828]

I have one on my Africa twin. If I'm cruising at 110km/h and approach a hill it'll drop 1-2 km/h then match the speed again. It may accelerate and get to 113 then drop back to 110. Seems pretty consistent with the behaviour I've experienced on my previous BMW's and ktms with cruise control

[@sandwaves5642]

I once, asked you - how is the CC on your 1300 GS - when using the QS.... Does it stay ON, or clicks OFF ??.... On The F900GS it stays ON, if Quick Shifting UP, but disconnects, when DOWN ! - No answer was provided. SO - How does this Veridian behave in different situations - if you have a QS on the 800DE ??

[@TingILi]

Dose it support Kawasaki ?

[@nexorabolis]

If you live in CA, cruise control is basically mandatory

[@SanandanDA]

Please make it for the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450!

[@VeridianCruise]

Soon!

[@mattm3742]

Does the veridian cruise control disengage when a clutch/brake/throttle input is detected like on a factory bike equipped cruise control?

[@exothermal.sprocket]

From another video, it seems only a front brake squeeze or a negative throttle twist disables. A tug on the clutch or press of the rear brake will not. Don't take my word for it however.

[@tbillington]

No it'll flare the revs until you release the clutch. That's the one minor downside I find. But it is a bit of a party trick to change up and down gears with CC engaged.

[@mattm3742]

Interesting. Definitely sounds like game changer for the middle weight adv bikes that don't have an oem option. Seems like some manufacturers are leaving money on the table by not offering it themselves as an option!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

There's switches or sensors for just about everything on modern Canbus wired motorcycles. The computer should know when the clutch lever is starting to move, the brake levers are starting to move, or anything else. I guess it just depends on the logic and complexity of a given model, what Veridian is capable or willing to invest R&D to get working.

[@sugarandt]

Another video showed if you turn the throttle more than 5%, or shifted gears the cc disengaged.

[@kellencummings]

How long was the install

[@dirtbagmoto]

Heya, totally unrelated but what bike lift is that in the back? I'm currently lookin for one, how do you like yours?

[@BigRockMoto]

Harbour freight, it's great

[@dirtbagmoto]

​@@BigRockMoto sweet, thank you.

[@christophepoteaux3932]

Looks easier on the Vstrom than TransAlp

[@VeridianCruise]

Probably about the same. A few less plastic parts on the VStrom but you do have to pull the whole tank which is risky. Just ask @onthebackwheel he dropped his tank doing a video for us :(

[@hecthormerida]

Pole position!!!

[@noidreculse8906]

Too much work for me to bother. I would never remove a gas tank or partially disassemble the just to have cruise control. Stay off the Interstate and hit the twisty bits

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

I don't get the recent interest in CC. It seems like many regard it as a show stopper when choosing a motorcycle. Same goes for quickshifter, between the two of them they're the buzz words for 2024. For me, they're both irrelevant and I have have owned bikes with both.

[@1LuckyB07]

Well, I don't get why masochists feel the need to gatekeep a feature like cruise control. Also, cruise control is not a buzzword in 2024. I used a buzzword in the first sentence of this reply. See if you can spot it and look up the meaning. CC has been around for a long time. With ride by wire being more standardized in the industry, it only makes sense to include it as it's mostly software related, where there isn't a lot of additional hardware and weight being added. Not only is it a nice quality of life feature, but it also helps to reduce fatigue on longer trips, which in my book makes it an inherent safety feature.

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

@@1LuckyB07 Great! I hope you enjoy it.

[@HifeMan]

No way you owned both as you would know CC is such a great feature for longer rides. If you wanna be stuck on the throttle for 200miles, more power to you. lol Some people do a lot of miles on their bikes.

[@hamsterclamper]

BE ADVISED you may encounter problems with this. I bought one for my 2024 Honda Transalp and asked my dealer to install it. They warned me that tapping into the brake cable would invalidate the manufacturer’s warranty and possibly my insurance also. I decided not to go ahead with the install.

[@ISPhotographic]

More like your dealer didn’t want to get stuck accepting responsibility when they goofed the installation.

[@fynn8252]

The insurance part is interesting and should be taken serious. Similar to a DIY tubeless conversion. I’ve heard stories where that system failed and the insurance would not cover since it’s not DOT approved.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Always some litigious freaks ruining life.

[@slalomking]

@@exothermal.sprocketyep, but if you sell that bike, you may be liable as it is not stock if the next rider has an accident

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@slalomking Nope. Not when the title has transferred out of your name and the next person has registered the vehicle and put their own insurance on it.