Bigsby vs. Floyd Rose vs. Floating & More: 7 Tremolo Systems Explained

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@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 4 жыл бұрын
Gibson and Bigsby in the 50s: "Sure, we don't have the range of vibrato as a Fender, but we don't stay in tune as well, either!"
@Madmanmarque
@Madmanmarque 4 жыл бұрын
If a Bigsby doesn't stay in tune, it's not set up correctly!
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 4 жыл бұрын
@@Madmanmarque Bigsbys suck less than anything Gibson's come out with, but for playability (whammy range and tuning stability) of what I have experience with (not aesthetics or "tone"): Floyd > Kahler > Fender 2 point > Hipshot > Fender 6 point > PRS > Wilkinson > Jazzmaster > Bigsby >>>> Gibson's abominations.
@dcp10200
@dcp10200 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kylora2112Or just don't have a Trem at all and lock it down with an Evertune
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcp10200 But how can I make up for my mediocre guitar playing without divebombs and harmonic screams?
@Jerryleedlelee
@Jerryleedlelee 4 жыл бұрын
A properly set up bigsby will definitely stay in tune, just can’t dive-bomb them
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 4 жыл бұрын
Leo Fender called the tremolo circuit on his amps “Vibrato” and the vibrato bridge “tremolo.”
@Madmanmarque
@Madmanmarque 4 жыл бұрын
Must not have had a dictionary back in the 50's.
@squirelova1815
@squirelova1815 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah...those Germans are truly industrious, tireless workers but they apparently are very loose with Italian, aren't they? Leo Fender lost an eye as a youngster and still managed to build guitars and amps by hand himself at first and kept on working while feverish with severe sinus infections later on. I will never forget that and how very difficult it is to convert a guitar signal into a musical note through an amp's electronics; "Preternatural talent" is how Leo's colleagues describe his amp circuits.
@serge_makes_noise
@serge_makes_noise 4 жыл бұрын
I guess that's what happens when you make an iconic guitar, but don't know how to play.😉 At least that's what I heard.
@AboveSomething
@AboveSomething 4 жыл бұрын
that's a BIG BRAIN move if i've ever seen one..
@chriskucholtz6967
@chriskucholtz6967 4 жыл бұрын
Huge peepee
@austinsadler1403
@austinsadler1403 4 жыл бұрын
"You'll probably want a pro setup with a vibrola to make sure you stay in tune" is a very kind way to say "this thing has never even heard of tuning stability."
@xasmith
@xasmith 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Andy has a certain twinkle in his eye as he says that.
@dynamilla8534
@dynamilla8534 4 жыл бұрын
Say that to my 64' Melody Maker D
@fretboardrunner
@fretboardrunner 4 жыл бұрын
Has Gibson ever built anything that stays in tune... at all?
@duduychony9747
@duduychony9747 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGGunJykq72KfJY You don’t need a floyd rose hahah
@snwhhwwhwaja1171
@snwhhwwhwaja1171 3 жыл бұрын
@@duduychony9747 dude you commented this everywhere
@trialbystone2532
@trialbystone2532 4 жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting Andy doesn't play with a pick and every time I rediscover he doesn't it's like :O
@iganpparamarta8813
@iganpparamarta8813 4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it Andy never gets the guitar pick meme to this day.
@truckerkevthepaidtourist
@truckerkevthepaidtourist 4 жыл бұрын
I believe there are a couple of the old proguitarshop videos where he did use a pic on certain application of playing..
@skaterocker666
@skaterocker666 4 жыл бұрын
He has a sick right hand technique
@potassiumchloride2542
@potassiumchloride2542 4 жыл бұрын
No Picc = *EPICC*
@Thurston86
@Thurston86 4 жыл бұрын
“It looks like he’s using a Invisible Pick!” I keep seeing that comment and it always makes me laugh because at times it really does look like that!
@thenonebadh
@thenonebadh 4 жыл бұрын
the jazzmaster vibrato has a locksystem for broken strings too...
@aldente42092
@aldente42092 4 жыл бұрын
Not all of them. The cheaper models don't
@sambolino44
@sambolino44 4 жыл бұрын
@@aldente42092 The one he demonstrated did.
@aldente42092
@aldente42092 4 жыл бұрын
@@sambolino44 that's true, I'm just saying the majority of new jazzmasters don't
@thenonebadh
@thenonebadh 4 жыл бұрын
@Avrage Joe its ment to be played with fat flatwound string(12s). and the jazzmaster was build for jazzplayers of the time, not for rock or surf. in a way youre right: outside of the jazz context the brigde is awful.
@sambolino44
@sambolino44 4 жыл бұрын
@Avrage Joe True, but irrelevant. Did you mean to post this somewhere else? Besides, haven't you heard about Mustang saddles? Think you better slow your comments down!
@06Crf250rider
@06Crf250rider 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this guy must never use a pick to be that good without one.
@THEQueeferSutherland
@THEQueeferSutherland 4 жыл бұрын
I see you are new to the world of Andy. He is notoriously a non-pick user, though you do rarely see one in his hands, it's like spotting Bigfoot.
@dvdrtrgn
@dvdrtrgn 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine what he could do with a pick. Golly
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 4 жыл бұрын
@@dvdrtrgn Probably less. It's like asking a regular guitar player to try to play like him. I'm sure he can still play amazing things with a pick though
@ricardorodriguez5549
@ricardorodriguez5549 4 жыл бұрын
He’s boss: tasty and smart
@lord_beethoven1169
@lord_beethoven1169 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of guitar players don’t use a pick. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
@metalinyourhead3604
@metalinyourhead3604 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Someone finally mentioned Kahler! Sadly they don’t come stock on any guitars besides custom shop.
@realrussianmeesha
@realrussianmeesha 4 жыл бұрын
They was stock on a lot of guitars back in 80's ... Iirr some charvel models, just Google it
@MrPablo616
@MrPablo616 4 жыл бұрын
Been using a Khaler trem for 20 plus years, love it. Rock solid.
@michaelczesnozki1671
@michaelczesnozki1671 4 жыл бұрын
Actually they do. Jeff Hannemen ESP LTD, the G&L Rampage Tribute, early 2000's B.C. Rich KKV's, ESP LTD Glenn Tipton, and plenty of guitars from the 80's.
@ravenglenn6473
@ravenglenn6473 4 жыл бұрын
David gilmour almost put one on his black strat but decided against it, or so I've heard
@michaelczesnozki1671
@michaelczesnozki1671 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravenglenn6473 he did use one for a while. Google "David Gilmour Kahler" and you can find pics.
@louderthangod
@louderthangod 4 жыл бұрын
Jazzmaster trem is my favorite...I just like a little surfy/MBV warble and it’s otherwise very stable plus you can pick behind it for some cool effects.
@napatora
@napatora 4 жыл бұрын
i love mine. and it stays in tune so well. i actually just changed my strings last night, tuned it up and set it down. when i picked it up this morning it was still just about perfect.
@Synthulhu
@Synthulhu 4 жыл бұрын
@pizza time if you want to try out the style look into the vintage modified or j mascis signature squires. They both play great
@SinkMan434
@SinkMan434 4 жыл бұрын
8:43 wtf
@ardennes3016
@ardennes3016 4 жыл бұрын
He's playing with his fingers homie YOU CANT JUDGE HIM
@ibnufasya6408
@ibnufasya6408 4 жыл бұрын
@@ardennes3016 well he shreds with his fingers that's not a thing you see everyday
@Alberto-ny7kf
@Alberto-ny7kf 4 жыл бұрын
he needs to make a tutorial on how to play that fast with fingers.
@jerry-rk7yw
@jerry-rk7yw 4 жыл бұрын
Alberto ; lol just play more with your fingers
@Alberto-ny7kf
@Alberto-ny7kf 4 жыл бұрын
@@jerry-rk7yw i want to learn his techniques and stuff man
@stevegiannell3401
@stevegiannell3401 4 жыл бұрын
In the 80’s, Washburn offered the “Wonderbar” that surface-mounted with no routing, had a locking block that attached above the nut with six individual locking screws, and could be used on lefty guitars. Torsion spring was very smooth with no flat spot going from flat to sharp, and each string pitch change rate could be adjusted so you could keep chords in tune as they dropped in pitch. Fine tuners were similar to Steinberg, rather than violin style. Best design, ever.
@CrowaX
@CrowaX 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to try one!
@134SASAKI
@134SASAKI 4 жыл бұрын
Made in Japan unit called Answer SHIFT2001 Argus tremolo. I believe they OEM for Washburn.
@aneveningwithebola2727
@aneveningwithebola2727 4 жыл бұрын
Arjen Lucassen's been making use of them for years. Part of the reason I want a trem in the first place.
@stevegiannell3401
@stevegiannell3401 4 жыл бұрын
An Evening with Ebola, I love his work! Never really looked at his rig, but after your comment, I looked at photos and saw his Explorer and Strat both have them. Thanks for the heads-up!
@romeozkauba1329
@romeozkauba1329 4 жыл бұрын
I had one of those, it was a white telecaster style, the tremolo worked great, and stayed in tune. but, it was HUGE and kind of uncomfortable for playing palm mutes.
@mrmimeguy
@mrmimeguy 4 жыл бұрын
"How do we make this guitar more appealing to Worship Guitar players?" "𝘣 𝘪 𝘨 𝘴 𝘣 𝘺"
@kilgoretrout321
@kilgoretrout321 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I don't attend church, much less a church with a live band, so I'm always interested to hear that Worship players have their own trends with gear. For instance, I bought a pedal from T1M (The Pearl dual overdrive) because of all the praise it got, and later heard that the builder is a worship guitarist, and his pedals are popular in that community. He even wrote a little Bible verse on the inside of the back plate, kind of like In-N-Out does on the bottom of their burgers and fries packaging. I might ask around the internet to learn more about worship bands' gear choices and trends just because I wonder what the difference is to those of secular bands.
@mrmimeguy
@mrmimeguy 3 жыл бұрын
@@kilgoretrout321 Yeah, worship gear is a whole culture. A few things that are popular among worship players are the strymon BigSky and TimeLine pedals, the Walrus Audio Julia, the JHS Kilt V1, the Electro-Harmonix POG2, Gretsch, Suhr, Veritas & Duesenberg guitars, etc. Worship players are somewhat notorious for having big boards and super expensive guitars. I would recommend looking up a dude on YT called David Hislop
@kilgoretrout321
@kilgoretrout321 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrmimeguy wow yeah that does sound pretty expensive. But I guess faith can keep you grounded when you have enough money to buy Suhrs and Strymons. And a lot of my favorite musicians who seem preternaturally talented came out of church groups when they were young, so it's a great forum for developing chops, gaining gigging experience, and making connections
@bluesdealer
@bluesdealer 3 жыл бұрын
@@kilgoretrout321 yeah, for awhile, they were imitating The Edge in the early 00s. Now they’re imitating atmospheric/post-rock players. So, boutique reverbs/delays/light overdrives, and of course, the vibrato affect from a Bigsby all come in handy.
@didi_abdillah
@didi_abdillah 4 жыл бұрын
0:35 Fender Synchronized 2:54 Bigsby Vibrato 4:14 Maestro Vibrola 5:08 Jazzmaster 6:40 Floyd Rose Double Locking Floating Tremolo 8:04 Kahler Locking Tremolo 9:09 Stetsbar
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 4 жыл бұрын
Gotoh - 510 on my Suhr - it's honestly Phenomenal. Every time I play - I am so Impressed with the Tuning Stability.
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 4 жыл бұрын
is the arm a pop in one like a PRS or is it a screw in arm like a Fender?
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonysclafani3963 It's a pop-in, but it also screws-down, and also has a set-screw with a tiny hex key. Everytime I play - I can't believe How Good it Is. I'm finally happy. Did not use the trem on my Vintage Fender Stratocaster in 14 years, I was so frustrated = (just sold it) - The Suhr is upgraded & improved in every way.
@MinkiMunki
@MinkiMunki 8 ай бұрын
My son has a Gotoh 510 on his Charvel and it's phenominal. All the range of a Floyd, without the hassle of locking nuts etc... It's the best I've used so far.
@lance134679
@lance134679 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Les Trem, and after market trem system which only works for tunomatic bridges, but I really like it on my LP. Thanks, Andy, good information, as usual.
@trollfacegamiong8349
@trollfacegamiong8349 3 жыл бұрын
Car
@MrJohnnyDistortion
@MrJohnnyDistortion 2 жыл бұрын
@@trollfacegamiong8349 Balloon
@horrifyinggelatinousblob
@horrifyinggelatinousblob 4 жыл бұрын
Andy is one of the best guitarists on youtube and all he does is gear demos.
@watchthebeveragedude
@watchthebeveragedude 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad you didnt show the duesenburg les trem
@ehvmerxerk
@ehvmerxerk 4 жыл бұрын
That’s basically a bigsby
@leddeath80
@leddeath80 4 жыл бұрын
@@ehvmerxerk you have no idea how much better the duesenberg trem is compared to a bigsby
@EpicStuffMan1000
@EpicStuffMan1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@ehvmerxerk dusenberg trem is way more smooth and so much easier to string
@watchthebeveragedude
@watchthebeveragedude 4 жыл бұрын
I’m getting one next week. I hope it is
@aramil444
@aramil444 4 жыл бұрын
@@watchthebeveragedude it's great
@MrTDembinski
@MrTDembinski 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. I’ve always liked the G&L dual fulcrum 2 point system.
@marknason4572
@marknason4572 4 жыл бұрын
This was great. I've always been a Bigsby guy but now I might try a Stetsbar at some point!
@MrMatt9793
@MrMatt9793 4 жыл бұрын
If you have a tele, don't. Had to shim my neck and raise the pickups an insane amount to compensate for the new string height. It works fine and the tuning stability is great, but the ridiculous pickup height and bare wood shim make it look a bit unsightly. Any other guitar is good to go
@chrishansen-crowley3287
@chrishansen-crowley3287 4 жыл бұрын
I got one for my Gibson Explorer but could not get it to stay in tune. I found a BFG Les Paul with a factory Schaller that works well. Andy’s great video has me wanting a Jazzmaster now.
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 4 жыл бұрын
Just get a Duesenberg LesTrem.
@rabokarabekian409
@rabokarabekian409 4 жыл бұрын
I've had one Stetsbar for about 5 years. It usually will tolerate a lot of very wide swings, but it often takes a little "wiggle" at center to be completely back in tune. The installation is stupid easy even on an arched LP-style. The setup instruction MUST be followed and understood. If I don't use it for a few days it gets a little "sticky". Finally, if used wildly it may eat high e strings a lot, unless you thread the string through its "donut" once or twice. I had no luck with reinforced or with soldered wraps. The Stetsbar does look pretty steam punk, so the one guitar I have on is decorated to look like something Alice Cooper might use if too carried away. Different note: make sure your nut is graphtech.
@Mr.Goldbar
@Mr.Goldbar 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMatt9793 too bad because I like the idea of tele with a trem
@TanDokuDemon
@TanDokuDemon 4 жыл бұрын
That Neil Young tone for the bigsby really makes me smile
@andreasatlars4281
@andreasatlars4281 4 жыл бұрын
I think the bigsby in it itself makes anything sound like Neil Young. And that's cool.😎
@JiveTalker78
@JiveTalker78 4 жыл бұрын
My 83' strat has a Free Flyte tremolo system, it's the best system I've ever used. One of the many reasons I love my 83' strat!
@kabirprakash
@kabirprakash 3 жыл бұрын
This video cleared every bit of doubts about tremolo design and functioning . 🙏
@Infinighost
@Infinighost 4 жыл бұрын
wow, that Guild with the Bigsby looks and sounds incredible!
@AlexSaints-t2k
@AlexSaints-t2k 4 жыл бұрын
the way he shreds is so unique
@carolushirokisatyanegara7044
@carolushirokisatyanegara7044 4 жыл бұрын
This guy has a awesome picking technique
@BigWilly332
@BigWilly332 4 жыл бұрын
The one guitar the dude had to show off Bigsby was an absolute beast
@jamesprisciandaro3144
@jamesprisciandaro3144 4 жыл бұрын
Andy is a national treasure.
@budsodalsky
@budsodalsky 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your fingerstyle is TREMENDOUS! That was CRAZY how you tapped individual right hand fingers to rip through those 32nd notes!
@kairinase
@kairinase 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I feel like putting tremolos to everything! it's so cool!
@diegoebustamante
@diegoebustamante 4 жыл бұрын
Andy, the father of gear reviews
@AndyDemos
@AndyDemos 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not saying Grandfather ;)
@Jclements45
@Jclements45 4 жыл бұрын
Way to get your Shields on, Andy!! The Ultra Trem, by Vega-Trem is by far my favorite for a Strat style bridge. Retro fits perfectly & add some locking tuners...totally solid, go nuts!
@Thomaszmccormick
@Thomaszmccormick 4 жыл бұрын
And after watching Andy Martin for ten years, I finally realize that he can shred, too.
@Ruefus
@Ruefus 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Each system has its niche. I realize that it's been out of production for an eternity, but it would have been cool to demonstrate the original Steinberger TransTrem. Not only did it give on-the-fly tuning options, entire chords stay in tune when using it. A popular example is Van Halen's Summer Nights on 5150.
@bladerunner12
@bladerunner12 4 жыл бұрын
That's my dream SG right there. Dark red, with the wide pickguard and Vibrola with the backplate. Everything I've ever wanted in an SG.
@mksounds6326
@mksounds6326 3 жыл бұрын
@alexaraya2018
@alexaraya2018 4 жыл бұрын
8:44 wao very fast scale runs ...with finger tips?!?
@keski56
@keski56 3 жыл бұрын
ever heard of Paco de Lucia?
@alexaraya2018
@alexaraya2018 3 жыл бұрын
@@keski56 yes...he used slightly long nails, shorter than classical guitarists but he did use nails... this guy tells all about that watch?v=C_6Cdc2Zcdc
@МаксонМаксон-б5я
@МаксонМаксон-б5я 4 жыл бұрын
How about Trans Trem by Steinberger?
@nath9233
@nath9233 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a vibrato that identifies as a trem?
@МаксонМаксон-б5я
@МаксонМаксон-б5я 4 жыл бұрын
@@nath9233 Yes.
@heggy_69
@heggy_69 4 жыл бұрын
Trans trem vs cis vibrato
@brianmiller1077
@brianmiller1077 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't EVH use the Trans Trem in the late 80's?
@МаксонМаксон-б5я
@МаксонМаксон-б5я 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianmiller1077 Yes, on GL2T.
@arznboy
@arznboy 4 жыл бұрын
You missed the G&L Dual-Fulcrum® vibrato. I think that is one of a kind too.
@EricMerrow
@EricMerrow 4 жыл бұрын
Jazzmaster trem all the way! Great playing as always, Andy!
@Les537
@Les537 4 жыл бұрын
That last one was interesting. I think I've tried most of the rest. The floyd stays in tune great, but it's such a huge p.i.t.a to tune and intonate. I had a bigsby on a les paul that worked great, but added more weight. These days the only bar I allow is the fender 2 pole thing. Nice and simple and mostly stays in tune if you know how to set it up.
@El_Cacto
@El_Cacto 9 ай бұрын
Andy! I haven't seen you since I was subscribed to the ProGuitarShop channel, and now I find you here in this recommendation by KZbin. As I was expecting, you play even more awesome than back then. You provide great information as well. Rock on!
@mylesmullarney4365
@mylesmullarney4365 4 жыл бұрын
The tone on the bigsby was beautiful
@joshuatorres6143
@joshuatorres6143 4 жыл бұрын
He didn’t use a gretsch for bigsby 😭
@clicheguevara5282
@clicheguevara5282 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite has always been a well setup Jazzmaster. It’s PERFECT for what I want to do.
@chutneyferret3569
@chutneyferret3569 3 жыл бұрын
Never even head of Stetsbar, I like that a lot! Thanks!
@robertsagan9722
@robertsagan9722 4 жыл бұрын
One of the few that played an alternative rock riff for the jazzmaster instead of some bluesy lick Thats very cool of you
@JMill-bs6xt
@JMill-bs6xt 4 жыл бұрын
I like how with each guitar you try to play the same kind of genre of music that it was mostly used for. A lot of guitar you tubers play either metal or classic rock when demoing guitars, but at least to me it seemed like you made sure that what you were playing really fit what made those guitars famous. Like how with the strat you were playing some classic rock, the Floyd rose you were playing some metal, and then with the jazzmaster you were playing a shoegaze riff. I just got a jazzmaster because it’s pretty much a staple guitar for shoegaze/ dream pop players and I love the trem so far. I must say it made me really happy that you mentioned kevin shields and did a little shoegaze demo. I watched a lot of demos/ reviews for the jazzmaster and a lot of them wouldn’t include anything about that, saying that it was mainly used for surf rock, which I think is a shame as I feel like jazzmaster are just as prevalent with shoegaze players as they are with surf rock players. It’s nice to see someone who’s music tase goes beyond classic rock and metal lol. Didn’t mean to go on the tangent there I just think it’s a breath of fresh air when I see some variety on these big guitar KZbin channels. And ya, the jazzmaster rules lol
@SombraPiloto
@SombraPiloto 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish Kahler's were more available these days. As a child of 80's hard rock/metal I grew up coveting the Kahler-equipped Carvin V220 but all I see now is the Cantrell model from G&L.
@user-qr7ee2cp4y
@user-qr7ee2cp4y 4 жыл бұрын
I never liked my kahler pro. I think the lack of a block effected the resonance. It di have the fixed string pieces though.
@effel651997
@effel651997 4 жыл бұрын
You can still buy kahlers made by Gary in the United States they're just really expensive and you have to buy the locking nut separately also ESP still makes Glenn Tipton's signature viper with a kahler
@Scott__C
@Scott__C 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Kerry King with BC Rich and now Dean. I think the Kahler gets a bad rap because people don't set it up correctly to start with. They all have their idiosyncrasies. I had one through the 80s and it worked great.
@SyzygyEmbrace
@SyzygyEmbrace 4 жыл бұрын
That only reason why I didn’t get that guitar was because there is not as much support for kahler as for other floating bridges, I don’t have experience with them but they seem fairly solid
@texanfournow
@texanfournow 4 жыл бұрын
If you really like Kahlers, keep an eye out for used Peaveys. I have 4 or 5 Peaveys with Kahlers. I believe all the PXD III series have the Kahler X-Trem. Even some older models from the 80s and 90s have Kahlers, like my Destiny.
@mruncletheredge
@mruncletheredge 2 жыл бұрын
One quite unique tremolo system not mentioned here is the Steinberger Trans Trem. What made it so unique was that it could dive an entire chord and still keep the chord in tune all the way down or up....
@ivorharden
@ivorharden 4 жыл бұрын
On my vintage style Strat bridges, I put little springs around the screws that anchors the bridge to the body. Pickup springs cut down will do the job. It helps out alot especially with locking tuners.
@mikecurtin9831
@mikecurtin9831 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for the comparisons. I've been an acoustic fingerpicker for about 40 years and haven't played a 2 x 4 for about 30, but I'm thinking about it again. Now I've got a lot better idea of what I'm looking for and why.
@iananderson12796
@iananderson12796 4 жыл бұрын
Bigsby brings the rock n roll! 🤘
@AndyDemos
@AndyDemos 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Anderson Yes it does! I think its limited range is actually one of the best things about it, you can really strangle it!
@andrewpappas9311
@andrewpappas9311 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, it’s also one reason I love Gretsches
@cjlv
@cjlv 4 жыл бұрын
Times 3. I have one on each of my guitars. Love Bigsby
@dikkeskieven484
@dikkeskieven484 4 жыл бұрын
It also brings the tuning instability! 🤘
@cjlv
@cjlv 4 жыл бұрын
@@dikkeskieven484 That's the Rock n Roll 🤘🤘🤘
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 4 жыл бұрын
Andy really is the best. He doesn't play like a grandad from 20 years ago. That said, two point trem for me.
@Nati
@Nati 4 жыл бұрын
Duesenberg Les Trem II
@ivannovotny4552
@ivannovotny4552 4 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure Andy.
@katyungodly
@katyungodly 4 жыл бұрын
Floyd Rose will always be the gold standard. My only beef with FR is that the individual saddles aren’t adjustable in 3D like they are on the Kahler. Just forwards and backwards.
@dandelcastillo8176
@dandelcastillo8176 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Guild STP90 getting some action. Really like that guitar.
@jasonmcmillan4373
@jasonmcmillan4373 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great Floyd Rose demonstration. It really leaves the others in the shade IMO. And I've never heard of the Kahler or Stetsbar systems. Good video.
@lamontprospect9974
@lamontprospect9974 3 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration on that Kahler by the way. That sounded so awesome.
@zloboslav_
@zloboslav_ 4 жыл бұрын
For a bigsby style without mods check out the Duesenberg trem - it's a lot cheaper too. A friend of mine has one and it's very nice for the price!
@FrancoGrimoldi
@FrancoGrimoldi 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite is... the hardtail! :P
@larryheller6963
@larryheller6963 3 жыл бұрын
Really great overview of "tremolo" systems and by a great guitar player to boot!
@odyssey6684
@odyssey6684 3 жыл бұрын
Andy - you’ve always made great videos and you just keep getting better and better at it. Always enjoyable to watch you, no matter what the subject.
@Guitarvaultusa
@Guitarvaultusa 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see that no mention was made of the PRS and MannMade USA trems... both designed by me ;-) Arguably the best floating style bridge on the market.
@spyderlogan4992
@spyderlogan4992 4 жыл бұрын
I completely, totally and utterly agree Mr.Mann. This review was for 'old school' systems, not the technically advanced ones on the PRS Guitars.
@johnsimms3957
@johnsimms3957 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the original Floyd Rose. It even sounds good when it's not being used.
@bonk4349
@bonk4349 4 жыл бұрын
True
@68able2
@68able2 4 жыл бұрын
no it doesnt, floyds suck and they are basically useless nowadays, when your bridge is actively fighting against your bends it doenst make it a better system unless its an evertune. divebomb cant replace solos anymore :/
@CiroNakakata
@CiroNakakata 4 жыл бұрын
@@68able2 because you or your guitar sucks lol
@68able2
@68able2 4 жыл бұрын
@@CiroNakakata bruh u dont need skill to divebomb, and nah i dont have bad guitars unless you consider .strandberg* a bad company
@CiroNakakata
@CiroNakakata 4 жыл бұрын
@@68able2 strandberg with Floyd Rose? 🤨
@keithj8289
@keithj8289 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andy! Great review. Really informative, and I loved the way you used the various trems for different musical styles. However, you didn't mention one of the best tremolos ever made ... the Falcon by Levinson. I have one on my Levinson Blade RH4 Classic and it is absolutely fantastic. The guitar feels and sounds like you're playing a hard tail, until you want to use the trem. Then you can raise or lower the pitch with the wiggle stick. Admittedly, the bridge doesn't quite fully float, but it solves all the problems that you typically get from tremolo systems. You can set up the Falcon really easily, so that you can change and tune up all 6 strings just like a hard tail. Break a string ... the others stay in tune. Change tuning .... intonation remains constant. Stability .... Always returns to perfect pitch, after raising or lowering the trem. Pitch bends .... bend a note, and you don't have to compensate for the trem system trying to slacken the strings (plus the other strings don't go out of tune). I just wish I haeld the patent lol.
@src248
@src248 4 жыл бұрын
No modern floating trems? Music Man and PRS trems are fantastic.
@Lord_Verminaard
@Lord_Verminaard 4 жыл бұрын
I acquired an old Ibanez Rocket Roll II with a Kahler tremolo equipped, it was in poor shape and didn't function and was missing the arm, thankfully I was still able to order parts for the trem and rebuilt it, after setting it up it works like a champ, way better than any of the Floyd's I have messed with. I even removed the locking nut to put a graphtech nut on there and it stays in tune no matter how hard I dive it. I never really liked trems like that before but now I'm having a lot of fun with it.
@igorkevorkian16
@igorkevorkian16 4 жыл бұрын
I have Floyds now, mounted on Jacksons and I love them when I need them. But I miss my Charvel mounted Kahler. It wasn't perfect. At times it would lose pitch after a big bend. This was rectified by dipping the pitch with the bar (easier said than done when playing some covers) but worked well with original compositions. Still, I loved the feel and the look of it. That was my favorite guitar for the better part of 15 years, played so often that much of the black paint on the trem was worn and polished to a blackish smokey chrome which accented the pearlescent white of the body and ultra dark rosewood of the fretboard beautifully. Sadly, lost it to a fire. So Jackson/Floyd it is. And that's good enough. 😊
@praetorxyn
@praetorxyn 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a Jackson USA King V I bought in 2016 and have barely touched since. Even bought about $1500 worth of stuff from Floyd Upgrades, Titanium Saddles, a Tremolo stopper (so it springs back to level if you aren't actively using the bar), titanium sustain block, etc. At first I didn't use it because I was moving so frequently it wasn't worth setting everything up. Now, I'm not using it because I got it signed by Trivium and can't find a shop around here to coat it in something to protect the signatures. Not to mention I'm afraid to take the Floyd apart and do those upgrades myself, and couldn't find a shop to do that either (I live in a rural area).
@igorkevorkian16
@igorkevorkian16 4 жыл бұрын
@@praetorxyn Floyds are scary. Pretty sure I never put the first one I took apart back together. Congrats on the sigs.
@Alex_Martz
@Alex_Martz 6 ай бұрын
Stetsbar looks great and solid and it doesn't requires modification, this should be more popular
@Polf1001
@Polf1001 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see my boy stetsbar on the list 😀
@void_snw
@void_snw 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the videos where they don’t play specific pedals, amps, or guitars, where the tone seems the best.. god damn that intro distortion sound is great.
@harry_mair
@harry_mair 4 жыл бұрын
The MBV stuff made me miss them being on Spotify
@rondelio8562
@rondelio8562 Жыл бұрын
My first tremolo was a Kahler on advice from my local music shop. If I need to rock out and need some good dive bombing or vibratio use, it's my go to!! I also have a Jazzmaster trem (never use it) and the 6 screw Fender on occasion. Great, edicational video!
@edwardbautista146
@edwardbautista146 4 жыл бұрын
Next time show Babicz. Pretty underrated IMO
@basslinger
@basslinger 4 жыл бұрын
Very timely for me, thanks!
@claysmell
@claysmell 3 жыл бұрын
Unless I missed it, one thing not mentioned is that for the Floyd you have to cut the ball end off the string in order to fit into the clamps on the bridge. With the Kahler, there's no clamps on the bridge so you don't have to. Kahler has bolt on versions for Gibsons somewhat similar to the Stets, no routing necessary.
@PoppyPoppa
@PoppyPoppa 4 жыл бұрын
The tele tremolo is my favorite... ;)
@jimzeleny7213
@jimzeleny7213 4 жыл бұрын
The Fender Mustang going back to 1964 has IMO one of the simplest and smoothest tremolo systems ever. If combined with a locking nut would rival the Floyd. And included on a very inexpensive guitar. I've always thought it superior to the trem available on Strats of similar vintage.
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 4 жыл бұрын
I used to play exclusively with my fingernail just like Andy here but I eventually went to using a pick. Every now and then I still play like I used to though, and I can almost play everything I know with both techniques. It's so rare to see someone else do it Edit: Holy shit I do not do that flamenco style strumming for fast scales though lol, I basically use an invisible pick 8:42
@jonhattanrai
@jonhattanrai 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see Andy and click instantly.
@mejoe5284
@mejoe5284 Жыл бұрын
I am a kahler fan . Thanks for the video!
@briandietrich1373
@briandietrich1373 2 жыл бұрын
The Kahler 2300 is really my favorite
@LadderFromMGS3
@LadderFromMGS3 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god that second strat is the most beautiful guitar that i have ever seen. I want one in lefty plz
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Shields' main Jazzmaster also had a loose bridge that would wiggle with the trem play.
@chasmenear7130
@chasmenear7130 3 жыл бұрын
I find that the Vega Trem (No, I am not endorsed) is the greasiest feeling beautiful trem made as a drop in for strats. Buy locking retrofit tuners for the best result!
@marcoruorio5846
@marcoruorio5846 4 жыл бұрын
One model missing: I have a duesemberg trem and shaller roller bridge on a Gibson gutar, no drilling, no holes, it works fine. But probably the best trem i remember was on a strat copy by Sunn o))), standard 6 screws, worked wonderfully. Sold the guitar, obviously regret it.
@Some1Something
@Some1Something 4 жыл бұрын
What do you guys think about PRS's "molded" tremelo? I am thinking of getting my first guitar and I have my eye on an SE standard.
@BigPhi84
@BigPhi84 4 жыл бұрын
The PRS bridge is one of my favorites! Adding “knife edges” to the six mounting screws really helped to improve the tuning stability compared to the vintage Fender design... When you say “molded”, I’m assuming that you’re talking about the first generation of PRS bridges built by Mann-Made, where the bridge plate and sustain block are cast in a die as one continuous piece. PRS stopped doing that decades ago when subsequent generations of bridges were developed and now employ a design similar to Fender (where the bridge plate and sustain block are attached to each other with machine screws). Some people claim that they can hear a difference between the one-piece and two-piece designs, but I don’t think there’s much weight to that. Sadly, the SE models use an import copy of the PRS bridge. It’s good enough for most people, but if you are heavy handed, the USA bridges retrofit into an SE model very easily. They aren’t cheap though!
@src248
@src248 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't used the SE version but the Core version is excellent. SEs sometimes have tuning issues, a lot of people replace the nut which makes a big difference
@Some1Something
@Some1Something 4 жыл бұрын
@@src248 Thanks for the info. GraphTech are considered "the best", right?
@src248
@src248 4 жыл бұрын
@@Some1Something Very good and dependable at the very least
@Some1Something
@Some1Something 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigPhi84 I mentioned the word "molded" because that's how they describe the trem in PRS's website (the SE standard 24). Thanks for the info about the USA bridges!
@tijnmoer9136
@tijnmoer9136 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody give this man a pick
@nickvictor7398
@nickvictor7398 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 1964 Jazzmaster and the thing you failed to mention was the floating bridge. It moves on pivoting points forward and backward as you bend the arm. This keeps the strings in place on the bridge to reduce slippage and keeps the guitar in tune. Unless you try to overuse it like VH style! 🤪
@KevinRibelMusic
@KevinRibelMusic 4 жыл бұрын
That Guild with the Bigsby is sooooo coool!!!!!
@JohnHorneGuitar
@JohnHorneGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the Blade Runner Tremolo by Super Vee.
@connorsme71
@connorsme71 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love mine! 👍
@hawkinthewind
@hawkinthewind 4 жыл бұрын
Have one on my Strat and one on a strat build. Consistent!
@Fedethedangerous95
@Fedethedangerous95 4 жыл бұрын
Andy, I hadn't seen you play in a long time and I gotta say, I missed you man.
@faboolean7039
@faboolean7039 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful playing on that sg near the end of this video andy. What influenced you to come up with that, it sounds great
@serrisdaylor1015
@serrisdaylor1015 4 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of the Stetsbar! That was super neat
@NotAuxell
@NotAuxell 4 жыл бұрын
You guys at reverb forgot about the mustang trem, but not really an issue since its similar to the jazzmaster. Amazing players tho, shreding with his bare fingers like a god.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 3 жыл бұрын
Floyd Rose and Kahler is superior in every way, objectively. I gotta say though, the bigsby looks really freakin cool.
@speedohugo8646
@speedohugo8646 4 жыл бұрын
Also the wasburn wonderbar or 2001 .....it has an internal spring like the kahlers....great one too
@illuminutteh_2033
@illuminutteh_2033 2 жыл бұрын
NOPE. The Wonderbar is totally different, It has a torsion bar.
@JohnStuttgen
@JohnStuttgen 4 жыл бұрын
That SG sounds amazing!
@hikupmusicofficial
@hikupmusicofficial Жыл бұрын
i got a stetsbar trem on one of my guitars i love it btw they even make them for wraparound bridges too
@Xuxixnywhwj1725
@Xuxixnywhwj1725 3 жыл бұрын
That jazzmaster tone though 👌🔥
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