Bigscreen Beyond Review - World's Smallest VR Headset!

Bigscreen Beyond will be shipping to customers very soon! In this video I give you my Bigscreen Beyond review after almost a year of testing along with some tips and tricks I've learnt along the way.
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Timestamps;
00:00 - Intro
01:57 - Micro OLED Displays
04:20 - Pancake Lenses
06:39 - Sponsor
08:04 - Custom Cushion
10:22 - Head Strap
12:13 - Conclusion
14:13 - Outro
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[@VirtualRealityOasis]

17/08/23 - Update - I now have the final consumer Bigscreen Beyond headset and my review remains the same. Overall, the build quality is better but the glare and small sweet spot remain.

[@GoofyGoober1_2]

Gotcha gotcha bro bro

[@pubsapass1214]

Is the small spot a specific problem for people using prescription lenses or is it the same without ?

[@SpacehotelMusic]

This is partly why I sent the PSVR2 back - super bad sweetspot that was annoying af. I went to Quest Pro and, of course, super clear massive sweet spot.. on and in no messing. Also no face gasket which I no longer want touching my face. So.. until the future Quest Pro remains the best PCVR HMD for me (and I do it wirelessly via WIFI6e on a dedicated raxe300 and with decent built in sound - great controllers that track anywhere and can move around to any room). I know QP isn't perfect but it's about as good as it gets, on balance, for PCVR right now. A sweet spot with no cable needed.

[@ScoobaMusic]

It’s definitely a good start, I would love to have something like this in a stand-alone format, but I don’t believe this is possible right now

[@rockdirty2228]

I have and Index I run at 120hz. My primary concern with this unit is the limit of 90hz refresh. Did you find this impacted your enjoyment of the headset at all? It would seem "no", but I have to ask...

[@IRONREBELLION]

Pretty cool to see consumers and testers actually being involved in the development process. Can't wait to try these out!

[@dtz1000]

This is the best VR reviewer imo. Mike was the most accurate reviewer of the Quest Pro. Only after he compained about the forehead pressure in his review did the other reviewers start mentioning it. Sad situation, but true.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Thank you mate! I really appreciate that []-)

[@bigbangerz5856]

Quest Pro is also a good comparison given ok its not micro OLED but it is small, has hand tracking, eye tracking and inside out tracking for…. 1/3rd the price of a BSB I think that is worth mentioning

[@damiengambill7304]

It’s appointed but not always shared. I’ve used the Quest Pro from day 1 and it’s till the most comfortable headset I’ve used out of at least 8 others. I can play for hours and have none of the forehead pressure people complain about. Just goes to show how individual VR is.

[@futuremapper_]

@@bigbangerz5856quest pro is $1000

[@snerttt]

Most comprehensive review I've seen of this product and the review still isn't over!

[@jameskirk4692]

Thank you for this great comprehensive review! Always love to watch your videos such as this.

[@noiamhippyman]

Sim racing is specifically why I want this headset so I'm glad you mentioned it. Thanks for the review!

[@RuffsTV]

They're definitely on the right track. The form factor alone is enough to put these up against the big boys in the VR hardware space.

[@omnomgamer8633]

Ya imo the most annoying thing about headsets is the size. If you can reduce the size significantly while not having the drawbacks of smaller sweet spot etc. then you have a great product. The only other thing i would like is to have accurate tracking without bay stations because those are pricey.

[@VeganCheeseburger]

Extremely helpful video; thank you

[@blaster915]

I definitely cant wait for its sequel!! If they can sort the sweet spot and glare, ill buy happily!!

[@hussain-x]

Thanks for a very thorough review.

[@Frankestein01nl]

Epic review on an epic product, Thank Mike!

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Thanks mate! I really appreciate it []-)

[@spenceydripdrip]

I love all of you posts man

[@ge2719]

i didnt realise they were also making a rigid headstrap with audio. definitely seems like thats the best option.

[@fluffycritter]

Thank you for pronouncing Fresnel correctly! Also for the really good comprehensive review.

[@HamVR]

Nice review Mike thanks!

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Cheers Ham! []-)

[@steveswiki]

Bless you brother, you invested your valuable time on the future ❤

[@Tugennov]

Another great video from one of the best content creators in the VR community.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Thanks mate! I really appreciate it []-)

[@capyvr_]

the virtual reality oasis is what i like watching all the time! keep up the good work!

[@OriginalCatfish42]

This is the first headset I'm even considering because its so small! Cant wait what the next 5 years bring us!

[@L0rdLogan]

It just looks like a pair of glasses..... that's very cool

[@huzrokhayzur2197]

that review is perfect

[@Wooskii1]

It's so close but I'll keep waiting like I have been for the last few years. If they ever release a full 2.0 that fixes the issues and increases the FoV, I'll almost definitely buy it. I am getting really tired of waiting tho, so I plan on just buying a Quest 3 when it comes out (or Quest 2/ Pico 4) to bridge the gap, if it seems like Valve isn't going to be releasing something within a year of the Q3 release.

[@adnana5342]

I can see other big companies like meta bringing out smaller size headsets in the future, this one looks more like the headsets in ready player one, hopefully they can tweak the few flaws for the future models and also the price range comes down in the near future, apart from that I see these kind of smaller headsets being the norm going forward and the next step in vr evolution, thanks Mike for the video once again

[@inoob26]

World's smallest VR headset that scales 1:1 to my wallet after buying it

[@world_production]

Can’t wait for the Vision Pro 🤩

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

I'll try my best to get my hands on one []-)

[@StubbyPhillips]

I can. Nice gizmo, but Apple, so: *nope.*

[@sonicsnake44]

What do you plan on doing with the Apple Vision Pro. I am curious because for me a non gaming focus headset with no steam VR support is a deal breaker for me.

[@Glerox]

I 100% agree with your closing thoughts. The lack of great games on SteamVR is a big problem... hoping Valve will release another banger with the Index 2.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Yeah, I wish we had some new games. I’m currently working on a VR mod of an awesome PC shooter. I’ll be able to share more info soon []-)

[@davewills6121]

Haven't used my old VR G2 in 2 yrs and probably never will after ALYX. But this set has sparked my interest again

[@thirien59]

thank you for the video

[@icejony]

Great review! Hey, how long do you think we’ll have to wait to get a standalone VR headset that’s the same size as the beyond?

[@StubbyPhillips]

*Wanted:* Reasonably priced, basic PCVR HMD with OLED and inside-out tracking. No need for standalone, passthrough, AR, eye tracking, applephone scans, yada, yada... Enough with all the "bells and whistles" already, _somebody_ *PLEASE* just keep it simple! This is what *_I_* want and I honestly believe it represents a significant gap in the market. Some people have different priorities.

[@del80y]

I've watched loads of reviews on the bigscreen since it's prototype, and I almost ordered one earlier this week. But until now I didn't realise it needed base stations, so that's that vr outta the question for me

[@TheLonelyViper]

YES! Been waiting for the breakdown from "that facebook guy" /jk Great review thank you dude! :D

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Thanks my dude []-)

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Mike.

[@supking403]

cant wait for this vs vision pro two ends of the highest end VR

[@amigang]

I do miss how light and nice the oculus cv1 was I feel ever since then we taken a step back. It’s a shame not more company have focus on this issue. Glad big screen have had a go, I hope they do a v2 that fix’s all these little issues. Thanks for the review

[@yaongyaong4415]

You could definitely feel the love put into that headset. Shame CV2 never happened

[@StubbyPhillips]

I've never weighed it, but I can confirm that the CV1/Rift was WAY more comfortable than any of the many HMDs I've tried since. I'm so sick of LCD and that miserable gray funk where black should be that I'm tempted to just go back to using the Rift again. I'll gladly give up some pixels to get away from the LCD crap.

[@Skrenja]

​@@StubbyPhillipsCV1 master race. I still haven't upgraded.

[@RyanR3STL3SS]

Nice review. one correction. The face scan does not use lidar, but the Apple FaceID structured light 3D scanner.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Cheers mate []-)

[@peters616]

This is the closest call I've had on whether to buy a headset in a while. I'm definitely getting a Quest 3. I still like PCVR on my Quest 2 but primarily play native apps like Supernatural. If Supernatural came out for PCVR then it would be a no brainer I would buy this right away because this seems like it would be perfect for that app. After thinking about it I passed on PSVR2 (even though I have a PS5) and the Vision Pro. Glare doesn't bother me so that's not an issue and I would like to use this for watching movies and videos, among other things, if I get it. I have an HTC Vive so I have the original first generation base stations and the old but still pretty decent VIve controllers. What to do?

[@DaveHoltzman]

that looks like a sweet pc. have fun with it and cya next time

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Cheers Dave! []-)

[@glenrisk5234]

I ordered mine within about ten minutes of it initially being announced. I'm in Aus so I won't be getting mine for a little while longer yet but I am definitely looking forward to it. I don't have access to an Iphone either which is a concern. I'm hoping that I can get my face scan done at an apple shop in a larger neighboring town when the time comes?

[@scottfitzpatrick1939]

I love the VR community right now. The coolest people and our only border is time zones. Thanks for reminder on 75 Htz

[@user-zx8hm2yg9c]

Thanks for a great review. What is your impression of the vertical fov?

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

It’s decent. Similar to Quest 2 []-)

[@shcade8926]

So I have to upgrade my pc, get a hold of an Iphone X, get steam index equipment and it costs around 1K USD?? I mean even if I really wanted the headset it's such an unaccsesible product for Alot of the already small vr demographic.

[@uroborous01]

Thanks for the info. I now have more reason to stick with my quest 2

[@doowaa2001]

Others have spoken about the brightness being to low on the Beyond, but I see they have overdrive for the brightness available with software, can you tell me using a valve index for comparison, what percentage should I put the index brightness on so I can see roughly see how bright the Beyond is at full brightness after the overdrive boost. I'm visually impaired and brightness is a huge deal for me.

[@pubsapass1214]

For me the problem with those headset is to have a complex external detectors installation, so you can only use it in one place. I like playing sometimes in living room, but if my wife or kids are there, i can use my quest anywhere else, in bedroom, garage or even in the garden ! Hopefully, Quest 5 or 6 will have this size 😁😁

[@ArnoldSig]

That's why VR has diverged and must diverge into two subcategories, portable and tethered. The small form factor achieved here is plainly possible because most processing and sensors are not inside the headset. This is a fundamental divergence to two VR categories so IMO you shouldn't expect the perks of portable VR in a dedicated tethered product.

[@DavidGuesswhat]

​@@ArnoldSigin the future it will

[@buckettraveler8398]

I can't remember which was announced first, the Nofio wireless add-on for the Index or this but I decided to go for the Nofio. If someone gets this working with the Nofio I might up grade but eh, I'd rather wait for the Deckard. It might never come out, ever, but I'll wait for it. I'll give it a few more years and if it isn't out by then I'll buy the Bigscreen 2. I didn't think I'd want eye/face tracking but I know someone in VRChat with the Quest Pro and eye/face tracking and holy crap, now I want it. For social VR and controlling the interface. And to squeeze every frame out of my graphics card with foveated rendering.

[@Hitchhikerissharp]

Arizona Sunshine 2 is coming soon this year to steam VR and it is GORGEOUS and so detailed. It’s no HL ALYX, but damn im excited for that game.

[@CosmicChew]

Arizona Sunshine was a banger of a game.

[@maksymfrost8846]

Hey! Thanks a lot for the video, it was really great.👍 Could you please give me advice? I think you're the only one who has enough knowledge in this area to answer my question. I'm mostly looking for a headset to watch movies and shows. I have a good 65" hdr oled tv but want to get really cinema and 3d effects with good picture(I don't have an appropriate wall for a video projector). My priority is not comfort but to get the most enjoyable and realistic picture from watching movies. I'm ready to buy Pimax Crystal but is it the best choice in comparison with Bigscreen Beyond or maybe there is a better choice? I mean which one can give the best cinematic experience? I've read that Pimax Crystal has HDR and Bigscreen you said has a "glare" issue during scenes with high contrast... Or maybe it's impossible for now to get better cinematic experience from a VR headset than from a good 65" hdr oled tv set? What do you think?

[@pressstart2640]

I've heard about the inability to share the headset because of the custom face cushion, but after seeing it can be easily attached and removed, why not just order multiple for friends and family that would consistently use the headset. Would you be able to order extra face cushions? Would they be expensive?

[@R_Vanburg]

Hey I have a question about the gaming pc mike I see the price difference and I’m just wondering would you say the cheapest option is still very strong or would the 2,384 dollar one be a better option if you have the money like how much of an upgrade would you say it is? Thanks man!

[@loganbogan9]

The glare is the only thing scaring me from the headset. It's still the best contender for my next headset currently, but man I don't want to deal with that. I'm really invested in the SteamVR ecosystem, and my main game is VRChat. I need a headset that doesn't need OVR space calibrator for my vive pucks so the Quest 3 is out of the question. Could you compare the glare to that of the rift or index?

[@systemsmoke]

Hopefully adding a better antiglare coating to the lenses could be a solution to the glare issues, I am very interested in these and it's a simple fix to be honest.

[@markkovalcson7243]

My understanding is that it is internal to the pancake lenses.

[@TheMetaMovie]

Great review! I'm checking my mailbox every day for my BSB. I'd like to buy that VR Cover strap - can you or anyone else in this community tell me where to find it on their website? I couldn't find anything specific to BSB.

[@CosmicChew]

I guess I will have to wait another 5 months to see what 2024 has to offer. My 2016 HTC Vive is really dated, and I want to have more clarity. I have the whole system. 3 OG Vive trackers 1.0 and 2 OG 1.0 Vive base stations and the OG 2016 Vive wands. Everything works fine. However, I think it is time for a hardware refresh. What headset should I go with. my wish list is PCVR, Passthrough and Wireless with full body tracking. I was looking at Quest 3. I was also looking at Bigscreen of course. Lastly, the Vive XR Elite. If you have any proper recommendations. Let me know. Budget is not an issue.

[@topandrun126]

I would like to see a comparison between Goovis g3 and this headset. I have a quest 2 and just looking for something with a better display to watch 4k movies on.

[@mikehudgins8545]

Hello sir! If you don’t plan on making a new video about it, would you mind telling us if you recommend Beyond over Aero at the 1k price point. I think more than half of the people in the market for either are buying for VRChat. I know the Aero doesn’t have a mic. Seems by your outro you still recommend Beyond, but I’m insanely interested in your take

[@SneakyJoeRu]

I have a 3d printer and I can print my own cushion. Do they allow printing your own versions or adjust them for a different family member?

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

All the CAD info is available through Bigscreen if you wanted to do that []-)

[@RidgeXR_2]

Yep, go ahead and print your own! They have cad files available.

[@maegnificant]

Would you recommend buying a valve index kit now in 2023?

[@blastingoff]

I thought it was a screen capture at 4:38 , then you moved the camera. That quality is unreal.

[@OneTwoMark]

Most important thing for me is FOV. I don't know why but everyone seems to put less of a priority on FOV, when isn't the whole point of VR to be immersed and not look through goggles.

[@charzy11]

Hi Mike, with an extender, could you put the Soundcore dongle in the headset USB c?

[@DL-do5xr]

Would the upscaling from 1980x1980 per eye for 90hz to the panels full res mean we get better performance than running native? like dlss?You were running a 4070 with it, which is comparable to a 3080, which i have but struggled badly with the VP2, ended up keeping my modded vp1...

[@RaptorJesus.]

sad to hear about the glare, thats one of the only issues I have with my Index!

[@RehtseStudio]

I got those Soundscore ear bud and there a gooood

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Yeah, I normally don’t like earbuds with VR but these are really good! []-)

[@dotJata]

How's the brightness and ghosting now? I remember Bradley talking a bit about it. Thanks!

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Brightness is low compared to most but that's due to the MicroOLED displays. Ghosting wasn't a problem for me. My main issues were glare and small sweet spot []-/

[@RidgeXR_2]

Brightness is 80 nits to eye, slightly lower than quest 2, slightly higher than pico 4.

[@dotJata]

@@VirtualRealityOasis Thanks for the reply!

[@JozefTrubac]

@@VirtualRealityOasis You mention small sweet spot, but when you put the headset on correctly you get near edge to edge clarity right?

[@joelevi9823]

Would you recommend them for productivity.. Writing code? I mean they are super light so can be with them for hours.. but how clear will they display text

[@farmertrueVR]

You mention that you had a better overall experience over the Varjo Aero but don't go into any detail as to why. As a Varjo Aero owner, who uses my Aero 4-6 hours a day for now over 9 months, without any issues, I am very intrigued as to how the Beyond is a better experience over the Aero. The Aero while not perfect, is nearly perfect for all my wants and needs. Even then, I'm still intrigued in the Beyond and if I were to be promised one of the first batches, then I'd order one right meow. None the less, I'm very interested in hearing your personal views. Cheers

[@Bavra]

How does the cable compare to the index in terms of durability? Index cable doesn’t like to be twisted and I already had a cable break from that just by playing in vr

[@Goblin_Hunter87]

How’s the small sweetspot a problem on a custom made headset??

[@LemonJon]

Whats the discount for the PC? The code doesnt seem to want to work for me for some reason and im curious

[@djbneozen]

If they get connected with Nofio for a wireless setup, I will buy it.

[@GhlyMasta]

Could the glare issues be exacerbated by the prescription inserts, or is it still bad even without them? I'm coming from the Index so I'm hoping it's not too bad

[@tyronelannister9922]

Sounds just like the quest 1, yeah its bad

[@Trippsy05]

I noticed a significant increase in glare going from the Rift S to the Index. Usually, I don't notice it, but I definitely wouldn't want anything with worse glare.

[@DesuVR]

I'd love to use this headset for VRChat, but missing out on potential eye and face tracking mods due to the physical size limitation and the lack of wireless capability make this a no-go for me.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Yeah, I totally get that! I guess you feel the same way about Quest 3? Eye tracking is a big miss in my opinion []-/

[@r.m8146]

I like the wires because it makes possible to outsource the processing power to a computer and therefore improving weight and thermals, but then it's incomprehensible to not put eye tracking and not use dynamic foveated rendering, which would tremendously improve the headset.

[@ene_ai]

Face tracking is not hard to mod in with the module HTC sells. Eye tracking mods are being worked on in the EyeTrackVR community.

[@Akab]

​@@ene_aithat would be great! When eye tracking can be done fairly easily , the beyond will be an instant buy for me 😁

[@arminglf]

How is the sweet spot compared to the G2 and say the Quest 2? I preordered one but it worries me if the sweet spot is similar to the G2 which was a pretty bad experience for me. I'm assuming the sweet spot is not big enough to simply move your eyes to look around?

[@markkovalcson7243]

The edge to edge clarity and FOV are both better on the BSB. The sweet spot he is referring to is how precisely your eyes need to be centered on the displays.

[@kramster9963]

I would like your opinion on something - I'm thinking of pre ordering a Bigscreen Beyond but not completely sure yet. Currently, all I have related to VR is a Quest 2, and I don't own any steam VR games or basestations/controllers. I will have a decent amount of money to spare, but ~$1,500 for a VR setup Is still quite a bit of money. Do you think I should get the beyond or wait for something else - maybe Valves "Deckard" headset? I definitely would like to get into PCVR sometime soon, but I'm just not sure what headset I should go for.

[@PikaPilot]

depends on how much you value that comfort. the deckard will be a big, heavy HMD like everyone else's in comparison to the bigscreen beyond. also, don't forget that buying into SteamVR also means you're buying the best consumer tracking setup money can buy right now. if you want full body tracking, steamvr trackers like vive and tundra are much better than IMU trackers like slimes The beyond's best selling point is the < 200g weight while packing OLED panels. If you spend time with people in VR a lot, or if you play sims for a long time, then IMO you'll find that the bigscreen is worth it. finally, we have no idea when the deckard is coming. The bigscreen should be able to fulfill orders made now before the end of next year

[@toploaded2078]

After using a headset that practically eliminates the sweet spot issue (quest pro 2) I could never go back to having to deal with it. It's a shame to hear the beyond has such a small sweet spot given it also uses pancakes lenses, and it's ultimately a deal breaker for me, unfortunately.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Yeah, while I didn't like the comfort of QPro, the lenses are amazing. The same lenses will be coming to Q3 so hoping that will turn out to be a great headset []-)

[@toploaded2078]

As soon as I put a top strap on the QPro it also became the most comfortable headset I've ever had too :) Finally I can enjoy VR for hours, not 20 min bursts. @@VirtualRealityOasis

[@Robo-xk4jm]

was looking into watching imax movies in vr and was completely blindsided to the fact that the bigscreen team developed their own vr headset

[@Vastfill]

Can't wait for beyond V2, going to skip the first gen and hope for large improvements in the next

[@thatstokedgamer]

How is the sweet spot compared to the g2?

[@Snack.Dragon]

Bigscreen Beyond will be great if launch wireless version

[@mhan6601]

How did you get the steam vr game preview to play so tiny?

[@nuclearyh]

having the glare problem is a deal breaker for me personally while it having a name “Bigscreen”. I will wait for quest 3 or second generation of Bigscreen..

[@mazef8836]

Maybe i haven't watched in a while, but have you always had those tattoos on your arms? they look really cool!

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Haha yeah, I’ve had them since way before I started making videos. I don’t think I’d get any more tattoos at this point though []-)

[@sheep7255]

I don't understand why I feel so giddy when someone specifically mentions the vr headset I currently use, the HTC vive, and talking about an upgrade path. Gets the brain juices going then I remember my pc is barely able to power the vive at like 40 fps with decent graphics

[@PeaceLoveAndGuns]

When the make a universal facial interface unit, I'll buy one.

[@markkovalcson7243]

Can't happen. Part of the equation to make them that small is that you eyes need to be much more precisely positioned in front of the displays.

[@MartinVibez]

Is this a wireless headset like meta quest or needs to be connected to pc?

[@rex2761]

It looks promising. It looks like I'd be able to just attach parts to it. Imagine if you could make it like AR also? 😊

[@rex2761]

And I won't lie just because of the size and how personal it seems to be it would be a perfect customizable device.

[@Changa_Husky]

I do want one but I realize now watching you do the face scan how many damn hurdles I have. Not only do I not own any apple products (I could get access) I have range of motion issues and cannot turn my head. One reason I avoid phones with face unlock is I can't onboard them at all. I may be screwed here.

[@markkovalcson7243]

The Apple store worked for me.

[@meric12131415]

Man I'm loving that headset it so tiny yet portable although I figured I'd be something like the vr visor from ready player one like when you put it on you're automatically in bigscreen but alas it's probably just wishful thinking

[@aaronharper4803]

It would be easier to just send them a clay face mold than to waste 1k+ on an apple product. They could just send a fixed face cushion to skip the trouble, or a third party could make a leather+foam cushion so we don't have to worry about it.

[@thatvrdude1856]

4:08 hope I’m not the only one who heard that 😂

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Haha that game dude, it had me screaming []-)

[@x32i77]

My money goes to Somnium vr1 this year 🔥🔥🔥

[@bid0u12345]

I really like the small design and this is definitely a huge step towards VR glasses. But the resolution downgrade in 90Hz mode (what's the actual reason beyond this?), the lack of wireless and the need for bases and index controllers is a big no for me. I want to be able to play my PCVR games from anywhere.

[@ChristesII]

The resolution reduction at 90hz is because of bandwidth limitation over the cable. It's like how wireless headsets have to compress the video, but at a much less significant scale.

[@MuffinTastic]

@@ChristesII According to NDA documents (see SadlyItsBradley's channel), the bandwidth limitation is actually in the OLED screens and display controllers themselves, not the cable. This is why you see headsets with higher resolutions running at 90hz. The DSC (display stream compression) stuff they talked about is used in both 75hz and 90hz modes. Them bringing DSC up in the first place confused a lot of people...

[@hogofwar0]

anyone know where i can get a replacement rubber joystick cover for index controller?

[@dirkson]

Where did you get the information about the downscaling/upscaling? I've been trying to find that on their website and failing.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

This was directly from Bigscreen []-)

[@RidgeXR_2]

They told me directly. Also, it’s not really mentioned here, but the quality difference really is quite minimal. You will only notice it on small font text with a white background.

[@meric12131415]

I guess we can safely say we know why the quest comes with the strap the way it does

[@BlakeBlackstone]

I have a Quest Pro which has a noticeable difference in the blacks compared to the Quest 2. I feel like most games are made with Quest 2 in mind and try to compensate for that because once you put on a headset with deeper black, it's near impossible to see anything. Then you raise the gamma and it just makes the maps and menus completely bloomed out. A lot of parts in Propagation Hotel were too dark and kind of reminiscent of the same issues Saint and Sinners Chapter 2 had in the dark areas (You mention that the darker areas made it ore intense for you but in my experience it just made it more frustrating. what's the point in playing in VR if you can't SEE in VR). Near impossible to see where you are going. I also find this issue in Phasmophobia. The deeper blacks isnt necessarily a better thing, even though it looks better, in my opinion. Wish maybe VR games had better setting customization to help with this, in a VR world still in the wild west days, trying to figure itself out. I don't know if turning off local dimming on the Quest Pro would help alleviate the contrast issues between brights and darks but then you just reintroduce more glare. I should try switching it off to see the differences...

[@JimBob1937]

In the case of BSB the panels are micro OLED, so the deeper blacks are due to the panel's higher contrast as opposed to a poor gamma curve.

[@Admodeus]

I don't think the issue is the headsets themselves, but actually just poor game design. There should be light sources placed around the map to avoid pitch blackness in an area you need to navigate or loot. If you walk into a pitch black room in real life and try to navigate or find something in it, you will have a bad time too. Games that want dark areas should at least give us a powerful and useful torch to see what's directly infront of us. Arizona sunshine 2 was really bad for this.

[@vivelachocha2751]

The final one is fitted to buyers fsce to get swrry spot easier

[@AbideinChristFully]

Not a mention of the quest 3 when that is mine and I'm sure others choices. I am leaning toward the quest 3 even just for steamvr link use.

[@dtz1000]

LCD always disappoints though. No comparison to OLED.

[@shippy1001]

@@dtz1000 Price always disappoints though. No comparison from $999 to $499.

[@dtz1000]

@@shippy1001 I'm sticking with Quest Pro because at least that has local dimming. If they had included local dimming in the Quest 3 then it wouldn't matter so much that it is LCD.

[@shippy1001]

@@dtz1000 that didn't invalidate my point, Quest Pro still $999.

[@timhalstead9790]

Does this require that that you already own for example an Oculus system to tract the headset movement ect?

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

You need external SteamVR basestations for tracking and also a set of SteamVR controllers, ideally Index controllers []-)