2023 Ford F450 Towing 40,000lbs! 500hp and 1,200ft lbs!

[@dandennis8465]

There’s more technology in an XL package today than the higher trims 10+ years ago.

[@richarddubois5529]

Absolutely

[@mrloud2266]

@@dandennis8465 almost as if technology progresses

[@davewilson8308]

I’m at a campsite in lower Delaware and my neighbor has one of these F450s and it’s a freaking beast! I now want one of these trucks.

[@Ramcharger85]

Just love the color of the F450 regular cab and the fact its equipped with the work truck makes a bit more reliable electrically speaking.

[@Lex-Rex]

I think I might like the XL. Probably a few things I would want like such as adjustable mirrors, upfitter switches, dual alternator, and the old man tail gate step.

[@kevinmoran864]

And the LED headlights game changer from the old halogen

[@krisbeaver2901]

Just take the $1500 step up to an XLT.

[@brandonortiz218]

@@krisbeaver2901 $1500??? I want what your smoking man 😂

[@krisbeaver2901]

@@brandonortiz218 go price it out.. the XLT isn't a huge bump from the XL, unless your grabbing options normally found on the Lariat.

[@willb3018]

A beast it is....and a nice looking one at that. I still like the look of the regular cabs even though other configurations may be more practical.

[@leehancock2782]

Cant wait till the hotshot guys get ahold of these. They already drive like they are in a sports car.

[@franksfamily]

I am very impressed.

[@jimwhite4105]

I like the f450 2023. I need the long bed and a 100 gallon tank in the back. Hi-tech sound and probably satellite internet. Comfort and tough. Long distance driving.

[@interpinto]

Towmaster trailers are VERY well built. Litchfield MN knows how to build them.

[@krice24]

Was trying to fi d that one to look at ordering but couldn't find on their website.

[@SlammedZero]

Love it!!! Ford tough!!!

[@alexmills1329]

Regular cab dually with a wide turn axle, tell me about a dream truck. All I need is 4wd and I’m ready for delivery of that beast

[@camfriesen797]

Ultimately the truck “can haul” 40,000 lbs, but if you plan on doing that every day a single axle tractor or bigger is ideal. I would be curious to see longevity of the high output in a long term heavy towing application. I currently have an F450 and a Chevy 3500 for reference towing heavy daily.

[@Big_Guwop713]

Hot shot ff50s last about 1 year year and a half

[@bpaul1201awesome]

Im sure there are a few hotshotters put there testing for ford at the moment.

[@Harikarikillboy]

I can’t see this truck towing heavy everyday without lots of problems. Sure, some will have success but that would not be the experience of 80% of those that did so. This truck won’t be sold in a significant amount of numbers in the single cab, xl trim so this demo does nothing but show what a super crew king ranch won’t be able to. According to edmunds, the 2022 regular cab dually tow capacity was 21,200 pounds. This is near double that weight. I’m sure they’ve “beefed up wear components”, but at the end of the day it’s still a 6.7L power stroke tuned much higher than original design parameters. It’s been a great engine for a long time, very successful, but it’s put into so many different applications and in my opinion, just asked to do too much. Other manufacturers have done the same, rams venerable 6cyl Cummins and GMs 6.6 duramax, but in some configurations and applications they’re simply not up to the task. Try using a f650 dump truck to tow equipment and you’ll see what I mean. They’re simply asking it to be the jack of all trades and it’s not, but they put it in everything. It’s expensive and time consuming to develop new engines, especially diesel, so this is the cheap and easy answer. I think they’re betting that the vast majority of buyers will only need to tow a 5th wheel camper and the biggest ones are around 24k pounds, so I suspect this is a sales “gimmick” (my truck has the HO, what’d you get?) as these truck will be burned up in commercial application daily use. As you stated, a single axle tractor is a much better option.

[@fewworddotrick]

Yeah much over 30k and it's just too much to do on a daily basis. I pull 30k on a regular basis and it's really too much. Especially if you have electric brakes. The truck is plenty capable of pulling it but compared to a semi it's just not super comfortable. Doesn't feel near as safe as you do in a semi, even pulling double the weight.

[@Asamccp]

​@fewworddotrick I'm glad someone has said it. I've been driving semis for 22 years now including heavy haul, and have never felt as safe in my F550 pulling 24k-30k as I do in a semi.

[@greglewellen4510]

I love the looks of that truck I know it is probably a bit rough riding empty

[@Fordguy1997]

Very cool video. Could hear the excitement in your voice!

[@GregoryRendon-l7i]

Like his honest opinion

[@josephsouza9951]

Very good presentation JD. The only problem i see is both you and TFL drive it on a closed coarse. .Everything is on a controlled environment ,nobody cutting in front of you or swerving in your lane.I know you have a CDL and can drive it legally but really don't have that much experience .You should take one of those trucks and take it down 95 south from CT to Richmond VA real world driving and see how a light truck and a heavy load really drives/handles .Would be a interesting experience.Also put container on it, all the big three manufactures are guilty of doing the same thing, they they load heavy but their not pushing any air, quite a different experience. Heck that trailer you were pulling, the load wasn't even as high as the gooseneck.

[@joenelson8060]

Back in 2010 took some drilling directional equipment from Tilden to Lafayette LA. Orange Tx CAT had me at 38,000+ and my buddy at 42,000 gross. But that was with a 3500 Cummins. Towed well. That’s 4500 Ford is a nice truck. If it had a Cummins I’d buy one.

[@lordaleksandre]

Why would you downgrade?

[@krisbeaver2901]

Yeah. I'd only buy one if it had a CAT under the hood!

[@Kinginwar]

But if Detroit

[@krisbeaver2901]

I guess no one caught my sarcasm...

[@barberdoug6930]

Wow The New Ford Super Dutys Make The Others Take The Back Seat

[@deantait8326]

Okay why is the ratio of views to thumbs up almost always around 10%? Yes it’s Ford Truck Month ! I saw another guy do this yesterday and he was far more gentle…. Ford guy was, it’s okay to give it a bit more !!!

[@edwardkomito7881]

I'd like to see how it performs not on country roads without traffic, but on highways and in real world city conditions.

[@brandonortiz218]

Thats the real test i wish he’d come to the arizona summer right now 😂

[@Jnoons2117]

Great vid and information for us truck nuts as always! I bet the fords could tow more if the front end wasn’t so fugly 😂

[@kevinsigler6747]

Awesome

[@henryford2736]

I see a problem. The reason semis have double axles is to spread the load because of the road/bridges load limit given by the DOT. It's 20 000lb per single axle. I haven't seen the CAT scale ticket but if the rear axle is over 20k there's trouble...

[@BTBRVReviews]

The rear axle weight wouldn't be anywhere near that. Likely closer to 4000lbs over the rear axle. Plus the truck weight, you probably around 8k lbs.

[@kevinmcquitery4543]

Could you please show the dash under load instead of the road and trailer?

[@realmassconsumption]

Now take it up some mountains.

[@emrahalibasic6975]

Love the single cab only one I would get

[@the305hauler]

Booyah 👊🏽😁👍🏽🇺🇸

[@jasonmbrown2795]

I do believe this is a "miniature semi-truck".

[@stewartscenturyfarm238]

Nice truck. Let's get it out to the farm and hook it to my 40' flatbed with 15k axles and let's see what it does hauling hay and equipment through the fields, nasty gravel roads and then down the 4 lanes.

[@codyseale]

That's the truck i want (maybe a 4x4 version, but not necessarily) and the truck I've been waiting for you to review. But correct me if I'm wrong. "Tow rating" isn't necessarily how much weight the truck can Tow, but actually how much it can safely stop. Because I'd be willing to bet you could put that 40K trailer behind an F-350 crew cab, 4x4 Platinum Edition with every bell and whistle on it, and it would still pull it just fine. It just wouldn't stop as well. Like i said, i may be wrong, but i swear I've heard that somewhere before.

[@bpaul1201awesome]

it is all done via the SAE towing test to calculate the max weights of these trucks. google search will pull it right up for you and explain how the test comes to the final weights

[@chrisashwin8548]

I'd be interested to know the stopping distance in an emergency stop situation pulling that weight? 😮

[@cmvdriver]

What is the actual GCWR, for that truck? Even though it pulled the load, 48,0000 pounds seems too heavy for the f450 to haul day to day. The specs I have seen for the f450 max GCWR of 40,000. Hey great video. We know it can haul!

[@flrnarl6678]

What brand 5th wheel is on there ? Or is a puk system on a gooseneck setup??

[@bishopgeorge1333]

Sweet, I would love to have that Silver F3500 dually.

[@algomafarming3799]

That engine brake sounds like a detroit 2 stroke

[@GregoryRendon-l7i]

This guy reminds me of the show two and half man,

[@RimRig_AZ]

Impressive! Now RAM will offer 40,100 pounds next week. Yeah!

[@FishAdvisor]

How would that truck fare on a boat ramp while towing a larger boat, traction wise?

[@christophermannmanno6318]

Nice ! I would prefer 1,000hp but It's not bad for a basic factory truck .

[@kadmow]

- a lazy 9-13L turbo makes a difference

[@MyGreggory]

Hi thanks for the great videos as always, may I ask about the tongue weight on the 40k trailer relative to the max 6k on the 450 I'm guessing the trailers tongue would be around 10 percent could you clarify that pls TIA

[@landonwilcox1837]

Curious what fuel mileage is for the HO yanking 30-40k around.

[@georgesrisomsak9650]

I wonder what egt's he's seeing at the top of that grade as well!

[@pablotorresalvarado754]

Exelente vehículo este.camioneta grande .great .lindo modelo diseño perfecto motor genial y potente gigante una maravilla y para arrastre es una bestia en el buen sentido de la palabra eso que maravilla .de Ford ..

[@skoffco]

I would like to know what the actual pin weight was on that truck as well as air pressure used in those commercial tires.

[@kadmow]

a class 8 loaded trailer at ~60000lb (+40000lb load)... whole other class indeed. BUT - a trailer like this carrying ? 12-14 tonnes (30000lb max real payload) is a bit insane (F450 up to 8600lb unladen and trailer ?? 2-4000b..) A tiny engine - just 6.7L - is working really hard at those weights (spinning tyres is just high inertia, low gear torque speaking.

[@richarddubois5529]

14k gvwr is max by law for a pick up truck?

[@BSFJeebus]

you have to have a CDL to tow that much, correct?

[@thomasjrinnus9935]

Yup, some states have RV and farm use exemptions. But generally 26,001lbs and over require CDL.

[@Gmac705]

​@thomasjrinnus9935 other way around, most states don't regulate private use. In theory, you could buy a semi and drive it loaded as long as it's not for any business. I'm sure that doesn't happen often except for rvs. However the state I live in I could drive this truck and a 40k trailer without a day's of experience.

[@BTBRVReviews]

Almost any scenario would require a CDL for this load. Not a lot of RVs at 40K.

[@reconxle_.3252]

Will a 2016 f550 pull 40,000 too?

[@mike_holdread]

Were you at full throttle most of the time?

[@BTBRVReviews]

No, but anytime I was going up more than 5% grade I was.

[@magnuseriksson5721]

nice

[@iq6840]

The real test would be to keep that trailer on it, hire people to drive it a solid 12 to 14 hours a day everyday and let's see when that chinsy engine blows. If they are going to go that direction I'd rather see a truck built around a 9 liter John Deere engine for true longevity, a bit stronger of a frame and a bit less towing capacity for the trade off in weight all in the package of a full size truck. Now we are talking!!!!

[@joedoakes8307]

Being able to STOP 40k lbs is MORE important than Towing 40k lbs ! Show US an Emergency stop pulling 40k lbs. and let's measure the distance it takes to stop !

[@master6435]

So what type of brake fluid would be used needing to stop 40k pounds

[@skoffco]

Ford brake fluid😛

[@zapcity8992]

Holy water

[@georgesrisomsak9650]

Alien jizz...😂

[@gorillaman08zx]

What’s the MSRP on the struck 120 K

[@BTBRVReviews]

Probably around $65k for that truck I'm guessing.

[@briandonald]

Looks like Michigan roads 😂

[@RandySpears-r9p]

Why doesn't he ever show the gages? So we can see the actual speed and RPM.

[@juanlazaro3551]

Ford f-450 be like 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑 just saying that thing can pull 40,000 tons

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

I’d like to see Ram build a truck that can tow 40,001 pounds.

[@jf8564]

Yeah. My Ram crew cab dually 4x4 Laramie tows 36 k. Not that far off BUDDY. And it's a 3500. Lmao not a 450.

[@TimothyMichaels]

So you can't get a 450 crew cab with those numbers? Why does it drop down to 30k weight? Longer wheelbase can't handle it?

[@master6435]

Really? Because the crew cab adds weight, which reduces tow rating same goes for 4x4 would drop tow rating again 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TimothyMichaels]

@@master6435 Yes really. They can't build a crew cab to handle that weight? Bigger motor, heavier springs, reinforced frame?

[@master6435]

@TimothyMichaels all what you just said adds weight the reason ford went with an aluminum body adding weight, removing towing capacity

[@mileage_master]

Timothy read about GVWR and GCVWR, the total amount of weight that can be towed includes the weight of the tow vehicle.

[@TimothyMichaels]

@@mileage_master Got it

[@williammurrell1321]

Ram towing

[@markreams3192]

So you’re swayed by comfortable seats, crazy amounts of torque and 12 volt plugs? You’re such a fanboy!😂. Just messing with you!

[@nickf5204]

So this truck has barely 15 percent tongue weight capacity at 40,000 lbs, 40,000 lbs x 0.15 is 6000 lbs of tongue weight yet it recommended that you should have 20 percent or more of tongue weight which would be 8,000 lbs. which this truck can’t handle safely nor any other 1 ton trucks out there.

[@blutomindpretzel263]

Who the hell does not want a keyless start? Also your argument about vehicles taking away 12 volt cigarette style plugs is moot. You can run all that stuff off the usb ports. Welcome to 2023 old man.

[@sandipelczynski8003]

Welcome to 2023 blutomindpretzel263, your 7 volts short. All USB ports power at 5 volts not 12. You are not going to have good results trying to power 112 volt things at 5 volts, So from another old man, do your research before you flap your gums. Your just another Gen Z key board jockey that knows a lot about nothing.. Bob

[@mergenocide]

Ehh at least about they keyless start thing there is a theft concern. There has been a rise with thieves using amplifiers between the car and the house, essentially amplifying the signal from the fob to unlock and start the car. Additionally AI aided tools have been getting better at decoding the "keys" keyless fobs use to start cars. While these are mostly concerns for more expensive vehicles they are becoming more commonplace as the tech develops. Considering the price of these trucks it's understandable that people want to stick with a physical key+immobilizer that literally won't start unless the person has the physical key.

[@showcasecharlie11]

I'm not a Ford guy...I wish Chevy had a comparable truck

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

There is no practical purpose for this. It’s just a flex.

[@BTBRVReviews]

As practical as your comment may be, there's a serious negative impact to truck manufacturers when they don't innovate and constantly improve technology and capabilities. The fact is, RAM truck sales have been abysmally slow and dangerously close to causing major financial distress to the company because they have not innovated to keep up with GM and Ford. It's easy to say that this is all for show, which it likely is, but that doesn't make up for the fact that people tend to not buy trucks that don't innovate constantly. It's really more our fault as a buyer than the truck manufacturers.

[@JoeStill-un9gp]

My buddy pulled 56,000 on a 30k gooseneck from central Florida to north Alabama with a four door 450, with ease. Those reg cab trucks are garbage

[@9663mu]

No chance in hell I would tow that much with a 8k truck. 5 times the weight is asking to go for a ride.

[@zackzander425]

Exactly. This might be good for a farming operation in Illinois or Iowa that needs to tow a heavy implement down the road to another farm they own. I’d never take this into the mountains. It isn’t that hard to learn how to drive a Class-8 truck. They only cost a little more and you would need your CDL anyway to haul this load in the F-450.

[@jeffadams3557]

I think it’s great they keep improving their trucks, but……..HAVE THEY FIXED THEIR DEATH WOBBLE YET THAT PREVENTS ME FROM EVER BUYING A SUPER DUTY AGAIN?

[@Kinginwar]

@Jeff Any straight axle can death wobble Ram and Jeep not just Ford

[@jeffadams3557]

@@Kinginwar it’s been a couple of years now since I did my research, but it seems that RAM redid their suspension geometry and fixed their death wobble. I was hoping that was true and that Ford would be able to do the same.

[@BTBRVReviews]

I know there have been complaints, but less than .01% of owners say they've had the issie

[@jeffadams3557]

@@BTBRVReviews I guess I just have bad luck with Ford and need to move on. Life is too short to keep getting sour lemons!

[@markkropf8295]

I've owned 5 super duties over the last 20 years and never experienced the death wobble. Neither do I recall my friends say that they have.

[@BruceDragon-sf1tr]

Is this truck 4x4?

[@Big_Papi_78]

Not going to last long towing that much weight with a pickup. My buddy had same setup but with a 4-door F450 platinum truck didn't even last a few months in hotshot before issues started. He sold whole setup and got semi

[@BTBRVReviews]

It kind of goes both way. I've seen many many hotshot drivers with well over 300k miles Towing heavy everyday.

[@Big_Papi_78]

@@BTBRVReviews I agree but when you haul 30k plus on a daily basis it's too much pressure on the engine. Can it pull the weight yes. Will it hold up day in & out consistently NO

[@BrandonLeech]

That steel trailer weighs waay more than 6,000 lbs empty with a deck on the neck and triple 12k's. Double that wouldn't surprise me. Take it across I-80 through Joliet, IL and you'll see some bumps and potholes LOL.

[@chadsteele1]

My Titan can haul 40,000lbs but should I. No.

[@BrianBourgeois-]

No, your titan cannot haul 40k lbs.

[@teamdada2194]

That truck would last 30k miles before it was junk hauling that much weight. Don’t compare a little 450 to a semi. Anyone with a triple axle trailer needs a m2 or bigger.

[@zackzander425]

I don’t think the truck would like pulling that load every day, especially in the mountains. That said Ford makes the best pickup no question.

[@jeffparker8268]

It's a accident waiting for a place to happen in my state of Montana . Them little dope hills prove nothing..

[@elms1319]

Why not 4x4

[@caseihpopper]

People saying it’s dangerous to haul 40k with a 8k pick up truck but there fine with a 10k semi truck hauling 80k what a buch of morons. now I know some semis weigh 20k but those are the heavy duty trucks hauling over sized loads not your average semi hauling 80k

[@stgibson2810]

Yeah….if we could stop making trucks haul as much as trains and start making them cheaper that would be great.

[@realmogzi]

Go buy a maverick then lol

[@stgibson2810]

I have a 2009 Ram 1500 and a 2021 Ram 2500, both of which are paid off so nice try. But I apologize, I didn’t realize you had a million dollars in the bank and wouldn’t blink at paying $100k for a truck that costs $30k to build.

[@unboostedpoopoo6478]

Too much weight…too dangerous for the roads I don’t care what they say

[@kenuber4014]

Nope! Way to small for the job. Everything from weight, to brakes is over rated. CDL Needed? Crap

[@willislawns]

Wow 2 12v plugs! How high did you lift your ford skirt for this ride! These videos is the reason why I stopped watching your channel.

[@BTBRVReviews]

Bye...

[@aaroneaton6159]

Guy doesn’t pull very often.. flooring it right out of the gate