Great review - was torn between a few different banks including the Occam LT and Santa Cruz Nomad. Having watched this it was clear the Rallon is the exact bike im looking for. Capable on the downhill sections (im no enduro racer) but can pedal up hills (something I do a lot). Just ordered myself a nice Gold 2022 M20 Rallon. Thanks again
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy the bike!
@randyisaak4552 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are quickly becoming my favorite among the KZbin bunch. Not a bunch of repetitive rambling that amounts to nothing. Your comments are precise, pointed, meaningful and touch on all the key points of a bikes character. Love them! Thankyou. FYI, I really appreciated the comparison to the Ripmo, its amazing to me that a bike that's "bigger" than the Ripmo can compare so closely to the one that's arguably still the best in the business for its intent.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind feedback. I really appreciate hearing stuff like that. Glad you like the videos.
@ioannisparaskevopoulos11202 жыл бұрын
Nice, detailed review as always! But now I am torn between the Rallon and the Megatower for a do it all bike! The Rallon is a better climber, more nimble in the turns but the Megatower eats everything on its way, being plusher! Tough choice! Keep up the good work!
@abassi11732 жыл бұрын
Vote here for the Rallon!
@mudkayak63052 жыл бұрын
comes down to price, build kit, and availability. My understanding is the build kit on SC tends to be lower yet with a premium price tag.
@ShitStefanShoots2 жыл бұрын
Well, the it's really easy: if you are a good climber the Megatower will do. If you can pretty much roll everything you want, the Rallon will help you climb back on top. Don't buy for your force - buy for your weakness
@abneriidelacruz67052 жыл бұрын
The new megatower is a better climber than the older one and descends better as well. I would choose the mega over the Rallon.
@regularMattMatt2 жыл бұрын
@@abneriidelacruz6705 how do you know it climbs better? I think as long as you have good legs all these enduro bikes will climb better.
@brennanmackenzie3702 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to chime in and say I love watching bike reviews even when I’m not looking for a new bike. I like the contrast in thoughts and perspectives from all the different channels and platforms. I appreciate yours the most though as you emphasize the importance of comparing bikes. Thank you for always ending with that and please keep it up.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind feedback. I really appreciate that.
@brennanmackenzie3702 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t given out of kindness! It was earned. Revel in that! Thank you for the reviews.
@jjshredsleds48472 жыл бұрын
I love and hate your reviews… I love them because you guys are the best and most enjoyable to watch. I hate them because I want to buy everything you review 😂 keep up the great works guys much appreciated!!!
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Just think how bad you'd want to buy them if you were the guy riding all of them. My bank account doesn't stand a chance.😂
@jjshredsleds48472 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge that’s a great point and I kind of feel your pain haha I don’t know how much longer my wife can hang in there. Haha take care 🤘
@zlatanc2 жыл бұрын
Great review from a great channel. I get so much value from each video, thank you. You should be having 20 times more subcribers, and you will be there soon, 100%!
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words!
@nicholashines76862 жыл бұрын
I chose the pivot switchblade over this bike. Now that I have watched your review it makes me wonder. You guys do great work.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words!
@bobdunahee88 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a Rallon after watching this, my favorite reviewer hands down!!
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! The bike is rad. you're going to love it.
@RedRockMTB2 жыл бұрын
Good review. Your thoughts mirror mine. I put this bike in my all mountain that can race enduro category. Bigger bikes like the Devinci Spartan, Pivot Firebird etc.. are in my enduro race bikes that you can trail ride category. The Rallon is very precise and requires a skilled rider to get the most out of it. I also was thinking Ripmo as a good comparison bike on several rides. Only downside so far has been a bit of excess chainslap in rock gardens.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a more well rounded option than some of the really big ones.
@RedRockMTB2 жыл бұрын
Agree, I think it’s a fantastic do everything well option. A lot of the bigger enduro bikes really lean hard into the enduro race / DH category.
@zorqis Жыл бұрын
Such an informative review! It addressed every point I was interested in, with relevant observations and logical and concise arguments. Thank you.
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words!
@raven98h102 жыл бұрын
Great review! Too many reviews focus on components or some cool gadget that comes with the bike. Glad that you review how the frame rides. Any chance of reviewing Laufey or Occam LT?
@edusantos7653Ай бұрын
Hi, amazing review🔥I’d like to see the review about the new rallon 2024 👍
@vinniemmmm5 ай бұрын
Hi, great review. Looking at one right now but undecided on size. I am 6'1" (185) ride 75% trail 25% steeper enduro type trails. More loam and mud that rocks. Thinking of the large for a bit more agilty but curently undecided.
@cliffsangelsphotography2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. I always found Orbea climbs just as good as Ibis. The Rallon surprisingly climbed so well and comfortable. And on the DH it felt plush, controlled and agile.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@gfowkes2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome review. Hope you review the RM Element soon.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. Working on finding one of those.
@marksandoval53612 жыл бұрын
The Rallon has what I consider perfect geometry with a 64* HTA and 77* STA. In my opinion, even short-travel Downcountry bikes should have this geo.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I don’t really disagree.
@user-pk9tz6wz3u Жыл бұрын
a very very good. precise and helpful review.
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@hfedrums1232 жыл бұрын
I agree so much with this review I have yeti sb150 and the 2022 rallon love em both but definitely easier handling on the rallon
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Probably the most lively handling of any enduro bike I’ve ridden
@hfedrums1232 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge very true. I will say I feel it almost feels and reminds me of sb150 which I thought was an amazing climber but.the rallon is on another level for sure. Also great job and the video quality. Looks awesome. Glad you compared this to ripmo I was between v2 ripmo and the rallon
@hfedrums1232 жыл бұрын
Also mine weighs 35.8lbs it's a m20 with float x2, hunt enduro wide hoops? Vittoria airliners, carbon deity bars... heavy bike but definitely handles light
@brianleal59662 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how it compared with the 150 which I currently have. Rallon is the top on my list for its replacement in the future.
@hfedrums1232 жыл бұрын
@@brianleal5966 so it's very similar to the sb150 on the downhills. But when it gets tight and fast turns it turns and moves quicker than sb150. While sb150 is awesome bike and pedals amazing I'd say the rallon is almost the same but the rallon has more snappyness while keeping about the same descending power I'm selling my sb150 lol
@gabrielsegura15302 жыл бұрын
Nice! You should test the mondraker superfoxy I have one and I LOVE IT
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we don’t carry mondraker. Won’t be able to make it happen.
@adamwildenstein44742 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge a flaw in the system!
@TeamCykelhold2 жыл бұрын
Loving the reviews. Thanks. I have had my eye on this one for while. There are so many good bikes out, but damn this one seems nice.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! The Rallon certainly doesn’t suck. I’m a fan.
@hmillz9412 жыл бұрын
Such high production quality on the video! Curious, what are your export settings for KZbin?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. I export in 4k with a pretty high bitrate.
@keeran4502 жыл бұрын
Great review. You should also review the Evil Wreckoning bro. Love mine but curious to hear your comparisons.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
We don’t carry evil at the shop. Won’t be able to make it happen.
@lazylearner9672 жыл бұрын
So many good bigger bikes right now! This bike seems like it is about perfect if I were to get a big bike. (I ride trail bikes on tame N Utah terrain) I think the Transitions look the best standing still, but there are so many great options. Hard to buy a "not good" bike. Hope to be able to demo these from you and Zach if you can get some demos going again!
@foreversteaz Жыл бұрын
I’ve got this bike, your review is spot on🤘🏼
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Such a good bike!
@noeserd2 жыл бұрын
A proper review for a proper bike, at last.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Outdawrzman2 жыл бұрын
To wrap things up, It's F-IN awesome !
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong.
@guibat972 жыл бұрын
Hey great review! I’m looking for my next bike for 2023, the occam is on my short list, but it looks like the uphill capabilities are similar? Does the Occam have a big enough « snappiness » edge over the Rallon? I live on the est coast of canada, I ride 70% trail 30% enduro i would say. Cheers
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Go check out our Occam review from a few years back. The Occam is quite a bit more “trail” than the Rallon. It would be even better for slower speed and tighter trails.
@JJMilk2 жыл бұрын
Interesting bike!! Looks cool. Enjoyed your review. 😎
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks!
@dachuckster2 Жыл бұрын
I just pushed the buy button, replacing my SB130 LR.
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh yeah. You’re going to love it.
@pierrecarriere68452 жыл бұрын
Very nice review once again ! I own a Ripmo AF and I was wondering if the new Rallon would be enough of an upgrade on the downhill to be worth changing bike ? I know you said both bikes are quite similar in feeling, but is the Rallon much more capable than the Ripmo ? Thanks for the good work :)
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
The Rallon is more capable than the Ripmo on the descents. It’s not as apparent as the difference between the Ripmo and other enduro bikes like the Spire and Megatower though.
@pierrecarriere68452 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Ok thanks ! I don't want a big brawler anyway :)
@Kengouru2 жыл бұрын
Hey Pierre, I've been on a Ripmo AF for 2 years and have ridden the Rallon 2022 on different occasions. I'd dare to say that it's the perfect upgrade, because the Rallon maintains the same excellent climbing qualities of the IBIS while at the same time taking downhill performance to a whole different level. Simply put, the Rallon really comes to life exactly where the IBIS starts hitting its limits. I loved it, it's relatively stiff yet very forgiving and inspires tons of confidence on tecchy terrain. It's a YES from me!
@pierrecarriere68452 жыл бұрын
@@Kengouru Thank you for your answer. This looks nice but I'm also scared the Rallon might be a little bit too much bike. It's not on every ride that my Ripmo AF reaches its limits. Is the Rallon as fun as the Ripmo on less chunky trails ? Maybe the carbon frame makes it lighter and playful enough compared to the AL frame of the Ripmo ?
@Kengouru2 жыл бұрын
@@pierrecarriere6845 Hey, no worries! At no point did the Rallon feel like overkill to me, regardless of the trail I was on. Despite being a big hitter, it's nimble and fun, the lower weight and added stiffness alone encouraged me to play with the trail features. I love the Ripmo, but sometimes it feels a bit like a tank, despite having a shorter reach than the Rallon.
@Saultimate2 жыл бұрын
Nice review :) good job
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it.
@kedrickperkins3312 жыл бұрын
Stoked on the bike! Still unsure if I should MX it or no :)
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t think it makes a big difference either way. The difference between them is basically negligible.
@kedrickperkins3312 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge with the same rear center that certainly makes sense
@Cg-fh5re2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for that super cool review. Could be my next bike. after going from the Rallon R4 to RM thunderbolt I prefer the combo of gravel bike+ Enduro over Trailbike… however, what did you notice about pedal kickback ? My R4 had quite a bit of it and regarding the climbing performance of the new 29er Rallons, I fear I won’t like the high antisquat yielding too much pedal kickback. Especially since I am too weak for a 32chainring and 30would even increase anti squat as well as kickback…and last point: what do you think about the same chainstay length for a size M frame? Would it be too front loaded? Thanks for your video and any kind of reply!
@flippy662 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that even on an XL bike the ST length isn't too long, so many other brands can't seem to stop making their STs too tall. Size L with a 435mm ST and 485 reach looks perfect for my 5' 11". Wondering if a suspension tune would make it a bit more of a truck, as it sounds like it sits quite high in the travel, making it feel firmer?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think there’s much you can do to make it feel more plush and smooth. It already has a coil. A softer spring would help but then you’d be blowing through the travel on everything. At some point you just can’t overcome the kinematics of the frame.
@flippy662 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Ah of course this is the coil, any idea how the air would compare? Not that it sounds bad the way you've described it, sounds great in fact.
@HollyBoni2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what i'd do with that low seat tube, my current bike has a 500mm seat tube and i'm already running a 210 Oneup with 1cm to spare. 😅
@flippy662 жыл бұрын
@@HollyBoni What do you mean to spare? Are you saying that with your seatpost fully extended your total ST length is 500mm + 210mm + almost all the length of the exterior of the ST? So like 900mm? I'm very sceptical of that. You must be extremely tall with a huge inseam.
@HollyBoni2 жыл бұрын
@@flippy66 500mm seat tube, 210mm Oneup dropper, and there is about 1-1.5cm of space between the top of the seat tube and the collar on the post. I'm 185cm with a 91-92cm inseam. Edit: SORRY, my bike has a 490mm seat tube! Dangit.
@iKaramboo2 жыл бұрын
I am deciding between the Orbea Rallon or the Santa Cruz Megatower. The rallon will be delivered in early fall, the megatower might be shortly available. Which one would you pick for bikeparks?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Mega for bike parks all day.
@margarethypes-dolan5192 Жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on comparing the Rallon to an Sb130? It sounds like it has more in common with the130 than the 150 almost. Maybe as playful? Thanks for your videos, they are great!
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! The 130 and Rallon are pretty different. The 130 is on the all mountain side of the trail category while the Rallon is on the all mountain side of the enduro category. The Rallon has a similar ride quality but it’s just shifted up the burly scale quite a bit.
@nicholashines76862 жыл бұрын
Would you consider this a Ripmo with the dial turned up? I had a Ripmo and it rode lighter and smaller than the numbers would suggest in my opinion.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
That's not too far off.
@Cg-fh5re11 ай бұрын
Hi. After your test I will buy the Rallon. With 5foot8 would you recommend to stick with Orbea sizing to go for M or upsize for L. Thanks four your Enduro 2022 Test
@bikersedge11 ай бұрын
I avoid giving out specific size advice over the internet. A test ride or demo will be your best bet for getting the right size.
@Cg-fh5re11 ай бұрын
@@bikersedge hi! I wanted to come along your store the last and only time I was in Utah, but still too far away for a trip with daughter and wife during holidays;) Back in Germany I ordered today size M. Offer was so good that I thought it worth a trial. Bike shop also recommended size M, although ridden only on parking lot. Service in Germany is so bad in general, that only few bike stores offer to rent the bike for a day before buying… I am looking forward to test it now. I think I am just right for such an AllMountain bike , since I am not racing but need some safety net Geometry for my tours
@mdmattmann2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I am currently on a V1 Ripmo and was wondering if you think i would be giving up anything in the pedaling ( climbing) department with the Rallon?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Possibly a little. You’d be gaining a lot on the DH though.
@mdmattmann2 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge I have heard some people talk about a lot of chain slap on the new Rallon! Is that something you noticed? Thanks again
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
@@mdmattmann not something I noticed. I’m not very sensitive to noisy bikes though. It just doesn’t bother me. Listening to the footage I can’t hear it.
@johnfontenot25092 жыл бұрын
My wife is from SLC and we go back there a lot. These trails look like a ton of fun and I don’t think I’ve seen them before. Where are you riding when you do these reviews?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I ride all over the place. This one is the quarry trail.
@regularMattMatt2 жыл бұрын
Really nice review! Very detailed. I like the bike but the pricing is heavy lol base model is 5.5k thats hard to swallow knowing its the base model 😅
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
That’s going to be the story for all the bikes going forward. Everything just got more expensive.
@regularMattMatt2 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge sounds about right. Just like ibiscycles increased their pricing again, thats 2 years in a row.
@pcarts2322 жыл бұрын
@@regularMattMatt you could try Canyon , you get top spec but the price is so good , or YT ?
@regularMattMatt2 жыл бұрын
@@pcarts232 yea was looking at it. As of now no stock for my size.
@pcarts2322 жыл бұрын
@@regularMattMatt aha yeah I hear ya , try the YT , someone told me that the reason Canyons are cheaper than Santa Cruz is cos the carbon is not as good quality but Santa Cruz prices for the build spec are literally a joke , the new megatower will probably be like £6000 for the crap spec and £8000 for a decent spec , I think you would have just as much quality on the Orbea
@alexstefanescu28162 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can you tell me what coil you used in the video? Was it the 550 that comes with the XL or did you go for a softer one? I also have an XL with a 450 spring and it doesn't feel good at all. With the equipment on me I have around 77kg~169.75lbs Only with the 450 spring i can get the 28%-33% sag. Thanks!
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
It’s the stock 550
@DjMTB76 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex! When you say doesn’t feel good, is it too firm or soft on 450 rate at 77 kgs?
@alexstefanescu2816 Жыл бұрын
@@DjMTB76 Hello! When I wrote the comment I didn't really set up the compression and rebound accordingly, it was my first 'good' suspension. I think the real problem was that i used to mutch preload on the spring and my small bump compliance was the cause. I'm still using the 450X2.80 spring on the 230x60(2.40) DHX2 with only 1 rotation of preload and now it feels good (roots and jumps). In the future I will try a 475 or a 500 spring just to see how it feels, i think i gained some weight :)) now i have around 79kg. Thanks for the question!
@DjMTB76 Жыл бұрын
@@alexstefanescu2816 Big thanks man. I haven’t tested my Rallon yet. I got the 450x2.67/67mm sls spring. I will try one rotation on the preload and see how it goes. Cheers
@alexstefanescu2816 Жыл бұрын
@@DjMTB76 No problem, for better results try the suspension setup from the bluepaper, aka user's manual from Orbea. Good luck!
@lakaldrak Жыл бұрын
Orbea Bikes have the best Paint Job i ever Seen kn bikes
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Their MyO program is solid too.
@imperialhenchmen80592 жыл бұрын
What confuses me a bit is you say that the chainstay length stays the same between the mullet and full 29 setup. On orbeas website they say it is a bit shorter on the mullet setup. Granted it's only 2mm but still. Did you just ignore the slight change because it's so negligible?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The actual chainstay itself doesn’t change. Its relation to the BB changes a tiny bit but not enough to be significant in my opinion. Especially when you consider that most 27.5” bikes have 10-12mm shorter chainstays than this.
@imperialhenchmen80592 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Ok thanks for clearing that up. I really liked your review, it focused on all the important things that make a bike.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
@@imperialhenchmen8059 hey thanks for the kind words.
@peterlomsdalen8953 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing such a good review. What would You think the main difference between the Rallon and the Revel Rail 29 would be? I am torn at the moment. Rail a better climber, Rallon a bit better decending? Cheers
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
The Rallon is a far more capable descender. I’d put them close to each other on the climbs. The Rail is more playful and poppy and the suspension is plusher. The Rallon is firmer and faster feeling.
@peterlomsdalen8953 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Thanks for getting back to me on such swift notice!! Hmmm.. It is getting harder and harder to choose between the bikes. Cheers
@peterlomsdalen8953 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge How would you describe the Rallon for pedaly trails? Cumbersome or way over to the playfull side? Cheers Peter
@spicycoco1 Жыл бұрын
@@peterlomsdalen8953 I own one and I'd say it's not cumbersome at all. Mine is mullet style and I find it playful and agile. Hope that helps.
@peterlomsdalen8953 Жыл бұрын
@@spicycoco1 Thanks for getting back to me! I did end up with a Rallon and so far it has blown me away. Looking forward to some dry summer riding i a couple of months!! :-)
@TheJofrica2 жыл бұрын
3:01 So for a "monster-trucky, cloud, make rocks disappear bike," which ones would you recommend? Does anyone have recommendations? Those interest me, thanks!
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
The new Megatower for one.
@TheJofrica2 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Ah right haha I had just watched your video on that too. Looks like an amazing bike that one
@marcogonzalez2889 Жыл бұрын
Hey!! Txs so much for the review!…I have a BIG dilemma and maybe you can help me with! Have ridden a Pivot Firebird?! What would you do, i have an option to buy a Rallon Team brand new or a Pivot Firebird 2022 for half the price!! 🤯….they’re build exactly the same way but I haven’t ridden any of them and I don’t have that option….any advice?!!
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I haven’t ridden the Firebird so I can really say one way out the other. I can only vouch for the Rallon. Is a great bike.
@marcogonzalez2889 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge aahhh well, thank you very much anyways! Really appreciate your quick reply! Keep up the great job! Have a great wknd!
@eagalbraith2 жыл бұрын
This is 15mm longer reach than the new megatower. I'm the same height as you and have avoided bikes over 500ish reaches because they've mostly felt too big. Does the Rallon hide that huge reach well?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
It does pretty well. The steep seat tube goes a long way in making that seated position feel pretty comfortable.
@micheandmikey2 жыл бұрын
Great review Connor. Could you compare it to the Ripmo in the 29 version?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I did in the video. It’s near the end.
@micheandmikey2 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge dang it, I commented too soon. LOL
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
@@micheandmikey 😂
@adamwildenstein44742 жыл бұрын
I love your talk tracks but I'd love to hear a little background of bike sound - it feels weird to see you drop the bike without a change in narration
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
There’s bike sound when I’m talking on the bike.
@andreasfritsch48312 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about getting an Orbea Rallon right now, but wonder about the size of the bike. I am 178cm (5.10") with an inseam length of 84cm (2'9"). I think the M size is a little bit on the short size regarding the reach, but the Large is probably a little bit too long. Any recommendations? Hard to get my hand on a testbike at these times :)
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I steer clear of giving out specific size advice over the internet. If you fall between sizes, go watch our “what size bike should I buy” video. That might help.
@locophoto6881 Жыл бұрын
By any chance have you tried a Rallon with a coil fork? I tend to think a Rallon with Z1 Coil would be my dream build for my recreational/fitness rides in Arizona?
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I haven’t. In the big picture that’s not going to make a huge difference in how the bike rides. It will have an impact but overall it’s still going to be a Rallon.
@locophoto6881 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Thanks sincerely for your reply, I think that's going to be my next bike. I already have the Z1, look forward to hopefully next year putting it on a Rallon as I think the market's going to crash on mountain bikes between now and end of next year.
@pedrog43982 жыл бұрын
Rallon vs Sentinel? If only one bike?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Don’t know if I could choose. The Sentinel is a more aggressive descender but the Rallon feels quicker in the corners. Depends on what you prioritize.
@jakeparker85652 жыл бұрын
Hi Connor, what do you mean by aggressive descender? More capable? So torn between these two bikes at the moment 😂
@MTB_Nephi2 жыл бұрын
Interesting test, thanks for that. Did I get it right? Would you prefer the mullet version of the Rallon? I'm also about to make the decision to convert my Rallon to Mullet.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the full 29. Don’t see enough benefit going with the smaller back wheel.
@MTB_Nephi2 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge OK, then I misunderstood. Thought the maneuverability in tight corners was significantly better.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
@@MTB_Nephi not really. The chainstay doesn’t get shorter with this conversion so the wheelbase is the same. Really doesn’t make a big difference in maneuverability. Mostly just felt the 27.5 spin up faster but it also got hung up more.
@MTB_Nephi2 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Yes, Reach 485 mm down to 480 mm(L-Mullet). I guess the wheel diameter is the Key 🤔❓
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
@@MTB_Nephi I think to really notice the benefits of a mullet setup the chainstay needs to get shorter. Otherwise the bike is still the same length.
@Vodafone16v2 жыл бұрын
The trail you are riding looks soooo sick!!! Can anyone share the name???
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty rad. It's the Quarry trail in LCC.
@mastabad2 Жыл бұрын
So, I’m on a Pivot Switchblade and looking for a more capable but still well-climbing bike. How much better will this descend than, say, a SB or Ripmo? Is it similar to those “all mountain” bikes? Or is it def more enduro capable than those?
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Not sure about the SB. We don't carry Pivot at the shop so I'm not familiar. This rides quite a bit bigger than a Ripmo however. I've always thought the Ripmo sat on the "trail" side of the all-mountain category. The Rallon sits on the "all-mountain" side of the enduro category.
@mastabad2 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Thanks! That is very helpful, since the Ripmo is a little more stable on the descents than the Switchblade. Really think this Rallon might be exactly what I’m looking for-something more stable than my long travel trail bike but that still climbs well and gets around steep gnarly switchback well.
@mdmattmann Жыл бұрын
@@mastabad2 I replaced a Ripmo with Rallon last fall and can say that The Rallon is noticably more stable and can handle the rough stuff a lot better! I don't feel that the Rallon gives anything up to the Ripmo in the climbing or playful department. I am in love with this bike!
@mastabad2 Жыл бұрын
@@mdmattmann Right on. I’m feeling good about this option. Can’t wait to get this order going!
@lazylearner9672 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to your personal Sentinel Connor? Compare it on the ups, downs, and poppy.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Similar. I think the Rallon might climb a bit better. The Sentinel has less travel but feels more aggressive on the DH. Probably comes down to HTA. Similar feel trying to get them in the air.
@lazylearner9672 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Thank you! You have the best channel. Your shop has so much selection compared to all others in Northern Utah. Bought a CK wheelset from you in 2009 built by Brock, and it still going strong. Keep up the great work!
@Stickybutton2 жыл бұрын
What is a Rallon? It means annoying or bothersome??
@thim80092 жыл бұрын
I had a gen 2 levo that I turned into a mullet. I mainly did it to manual easier, did you feel that?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Can’t manual so I can’t tell you. Haha.
@ThatWhisper2 жыл бұрын
how do i convert to mullet i have a 2021 Orbea Rallon
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
It’s only the new model that’s designed to be either 29 or mullet.
@pcarts2322 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried the YT Izzo ? oh my God I had a look at one of those bikes when I was out on my Orbea wild E bike and I picked it up the YT is incredible it must weigh like 5 lb it’s ridiculous !!
@edusantos7653Ай бұрын
Someone here have the rallon and seems to make noise or feels that the rear tire is loose and making noise?
@bikersedgeАй бұрын
I’d make sure to check the linkage bolts. Especially around the clevis. Those can work themselves loose.
@edusantos7653Ай бұрын
@@bikersedge so when you rode it the bike didn’t make noise right? It felt normal. I’m asking because I have an occam lt and makes a lot of noise on descends, even after coming from the mechanic
@bikersedgeАй бұрын
@edusantos7653 I mean a little bit of noise from the chain and cables is normal and to be expected. If your wheel feels or sounds loose that’s concerning. I’d just make sure the bolts are all snug. If it still feels/sounds loose take it to a good mechanic.
@edusantos7653Ай бұрын
@@bikersedge thanks for the help. I love that you are always quick to respond, thanks for the support 👍
@edusantos7653Ай бұрын
@@bikersedge it would be nice to make a video about the new 2024 orbea rallon because it changed compared to the 2022 model. It would be great🥳
@andrewjohnson64082 жыл бұрын
Any comparison to the SB150?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
It’s been a long time since I’ve ridden on of those. Don’t remember well enough to really compare.
@user-ps3zs3fg8r Жыл бұрын
what are these trails in this review???
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
LCC Quarry
@RU2AIM2 жыл бұрын
I got tired of waiting and laid up my own carbon frame with a 45° head angle and a 90° seat tube angle. - Let's see how long it takes the industry to get there - lol
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
4.5 weeks probably
@RU2AIM2 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge 😂
@HollyBoni2 жыл бұрын
How did you like those Vittoria tyres?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan. First time I had ridden them.
@davemasbutter2662 жыл бұрын
Would this be a good beginner mountain bike?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
For sure. I almost alway recommend a trail or all mountain bike for beginners as they’re the most versatile options. The Rallon is an enduro bike but leans toward all mountain. I think it would be great.
@davemasbutter2662 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge awesome & ty.
@evogsr48072 жыл бұрын
New to bikes here. Im wondering why are bikes like this 5k-10k $$$? I know parts involved are nowhere near that price. Its seems like an absolutely ludicrous mark up
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
That’s the million dollar question.
@Clownworld24seven2 жыл бұрын
Put it on credit.......... and forget it!
@uknowjoe12 жыл бұрын
Is it a 160mm or 170mm travel fork?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
170
@uknowjoe12 жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge thanks. I thought you said 160 in your review video...
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
@@uknowjoe1 160 rear.
@marloncordova90062 жыл бұрын
soaundsa like aa stumpjumper to me
@em1355 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but spending over $8000 on a bike, might be good for those with deep pockets, but most of us here look at these bikes, and most likely already have an expensive bike, over $4000. I have for the most part tuned out of even considering a new bike at these prices and will just stick to my trusty old (2021) bike.
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
The great thing about bikes is they come at a lot of different price points. The cheaper builds of this bike still ride the same as this one.
@ethanhardi1832 жыл бұрын
How much does the bike weight?
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Haven’t weighed it. I’d guess a little over 30
@hfedrums1232 жыл бұрын
I have the 2022 rallom m20 with x2 shock. Performance 38 fork. Hunt enduro wheels. Vittoria air liner. Assegai front and dhr2 rear. Deity carbon bars and weighs 35.8 . But it definitely rides lighter than what it feels. Compared to my yeti sb150 which weighed 34.6 lbs
@timar4o2 жыл бұрын
The bike looks gorgeous.But the price is too high.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
They’re all expensive these days. But then again so is everything else.
@fiseh75662 жыл бұрын
thing looks like a DH bike with trail components
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
Pretty far from that actually. It’s very all-mountain for an enduro bike.
@bradholmes42 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does that look a lot like another popular bike.
@bikersedge2 жыл бұрын
This one is better. 😂
@DionEconomopoulos-tb1vn Жыл бұрын
That's a gorgiuos bike
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Very
@ka81alex2 жыл бұрын
Why do you say " raion " ? It's " raLLon ", right ?..