Tern Quick Haul E-Bike: Top 10 things to know

[@EverydayCycling]

I love it! No suspension, no folding mechanism, relatively light weight. Perfect. I don't see US customers getting the D8, though. For $300 more, getting the Performance Line motor and higher top speed is a great deal!

[@seregiel9541]

Class 1 vs Class 3 limits if you can use it on trails. I'm getting the D8 for that reason.

[@mtrotter325]

I was noticing no suspension and in your comment. Being real new to electric bikes, is no suspension good for city riding (minor pot holes and street repairs)?

[@linguisticness]

Thanks for the transparency up front that this (p)review is being presented by the Tern Marketing lead. I'm currently debating whether to get the Quick Haul D8 (~$1300 out-of-pocket after my voucher) or the Rad Wagon 4 (just $300 post-tax refund voucher!) or something totally different, such as a folding model I can carry up the stairs of my apartment. At first it seemed like a no-brainer that the Rad Wagon would be a much better deal for me, but my LBS is trying to convince me that the build quality/parts/standard sizing of the Tern makes it the better choice. But a full thousand dollars better?! I'm within the poverty bracket for a single person in the U.S., and the most I've spent on a bike was $500, and I've put thousands and thousands of miles on that commuter-turned-touring bike. Getting an e-bike is a big step, not just in terms of cost, weight, and size (storing it without it immediately getting stolen is a big concern), but because I have to put down my pride/resentment of the booming e-trend that has put so many zooming motorized playthings on every trail and bike lane without most of them engaging in any physical exercise that's a hallmark of human-powered mobility. I welcome any thoughtful perspectives on the pros and cons, esp. the relative value between different makes and styles of e-bike.

[@leeku7768]

Just had a chance to sample a demo in london (euro spec) with my toddler in the back. Totally terrific product. Placed a deposit straight away

[@allencowgill5494]

Such a cool bike! Excited how many people will be able to enjoy a bike this cool.

[@BikeShopGirl]

Thanks, Allen!!!

[@jaysonvilleza3901]

I didn't know there's an e-bike version of the Quick Haul! I wish the e-bikes of Tern come into the Philippines soon! 🙏🏻🤩

[@skimaniac86]

Just joined the Tern family with a GSD from Hardt Family Cyclery 😁 and am excited about the Quick Haul as a future second ebike so when one parent and two kids are on the GSD, the other parent can keep up!

[@BikeShopGirl]

Woohoo, so glad to hear you worked with MacKenzie.

[@linguisticness]

@@dlmurray55 I was told by my dealer that the battery costs around a thousand dollars. No idea how about its lifespan but that's a good question. I've been unimpressed with the speed limiter on the Quick Haul (I can go faster on my regular touring bike) but it's great for groceries if you get the optional panniers (~$190).

[@dlmurray55]

@@linguisticness I'm thinking of adding a bafang to my short haul I'm getting but not right away

[@johnhaide7939]

I have gotten spoiled with the easy maintenance of my commuter bike with the Shimano Nexus 7 speed internal geared hub. Now that Shimano is building 5 and 7 speed hubs specifically designed for eBikes, it would be nice if a bike like this would have that option. I don't miss dinking with deraileur adjustments and maintenance.

[@difflocktwo]

I don't see any need for gears if you are going to carry around a traction battery. Trains don't have gears.

[@johnhaide7939]

@@difflocktwo This type of motor is not like a DC traction motor. It is designed for best performance in a certain rpm range. It is more efficient in that range. Also gearing takes strain off the drive train by reducing the torque and forces from the motor.

[@difflocktwo]

@@johnhaide7939 Why would you use a motor that is worse than a train's? Use a motor that can handle the load conditions and skip the mechanical drivetrain all together.

[@garyharty1902]

We love our GSD for hauling a lot of stuff and bought the Vektron for a 2nd e-bike for it's compact size and foldability. I think the short haul will make that 2nd e-bike more affordable for a family that might be stretching the budget to go with a Vektron. I know we love having two e-bike options in our garage and also being able to ride together.

[@jadeethan]

This is one nice looking bike! Thanks for the overview!

[@DragoBTC]

If you unlock the front stem, can you rotate the bars 180 degrees? Want to be able to store it along the garage wall and still fit the car in. (City garage)

[@VeeVeeArcher]

Great video! Everyone should be on one!

[@bobmuzzy9770]

I recently bought a Quick Haul and while in general, I agree it's an excellent bike, I do have a couple nits to pick. My LBS mounted the front fender 1/16" above the tire which I hadn't noticed until I rode through some 1/8" gravel and heard it scraping the fender. When I got home I raised the fender but then the headlight hit on the front Transporteur rack above it. I had to saw the bottom 1/2 of the built-in reflector off of the headlight to make everything fit properly The rear Shortbed Tray rack had to be raised up on about 2cm of spacers so that it could move forward enough to not overhang the 4 rear posts made for storing the bike vertically. Even so, the LBS stuck some rubber pads on the rack so it wouldn't get scraped. You didn't make the Quick Haul when you introduced the Shortbed Tray but it appears to have required something of a kluge to get it to fit properly. Neither is a deal breaker but something to consider for the next version of bikes, racks, and lights.

[@BikeShopGirl]

Hey Bob! I’m sorry for your headaches The short bed tray only works sideways properly on the Quick Haul. For the front light, I’m a big fan of moving it to the handlebar if you are running the transporteur. Which shop/city did you work with?

[@hemaccabe4292]

I like how she pushes that rear wheel back giving space for a second battery. I'm really hurting for range with my single 14AH battery.

[@KeepNashvilleFriendly]

Do you foresee Tern creating an ebike with a throttle? Will Tern support users to install throttle after purchase (like Specialized does with the Globe Haul)?

[@smytherichbourg9344]

Love it! Hopefully, I can get moved into a location where I can bike to work. (Currently, it's a 27-mile ride, and that's on horrifically bad traffic areas!)

[@frankfurter7260]

This new bike looks great. But why is the Vektron S10 now $900 (it appears to have increased in price again to $4200 though I don’t think it’s been available anywhere in the US in many months) more than the higher end model ($3300) of this new bike? Is the S10 even being produced any longer? I think it’s a wonderful bike. 😍

[@K1989L]

Quick haul has nothing I didn't want on the HSD: Handlepost, adjustable stem, telescopic seat post but it lacks the ability to haul two kids. Also it's great to have Performance line motor.

[@blgtn2103]

Looks like a great bike!

[@BikeShopGirl]

It rides much like your vektron, but without the fold :)

[@edwardcollins741]

NEEDS an IGH. Derailleurs are such a pain for maintenance and urban riding in general.

[@rachelcampos3947]

I’ve been really confused about the BBB tax credit, did that pass? When we bought our HSD last week our dealer didn’t mention anything about the credit so I’m assuming it didn’t? Any clarity on this would be greatly appreciated!

[@BikeShopGirl]

It hasn’t passed :/

[@BikeShopGirl]

Congratulations on the new bike!!!! Which model?!

[@rachelcampos3947]

@@BikeShopGirl HSD S11. Every day I have to wait for the pickup is like torture. But it gives me more time to obsessively watch videos about my new bike. So, if you see a lift in your streams over the past week? Yeah, that’s me. 😂 Thanks for the info on the BBB. I figure it hadn’t passed. I hope that changes. I can’t think of a better time to give up the car and the need for foreign oil.

[@leeku7768]

I don’t see any of the kids accessories especially the storm shield and storm box as “compatible” on the website. Can you confirm if this is the case?

[@BikeShopGirl]

Hi Leeku - you'll need all the mini accessories. www.ternbicycles.com/us/accessories?filter%5B0%5D=bikes%3A348249

[@leeku7768]

Thanks!

[@PsychicDavidJames]

would this be available with the gates carbon belt and an Enviolo hub?

[@BikeShopGirl]

We are keeping gates built drive on our premium HSD

[@PsychicDavidJames]

@@BikeShopGirl awesome, I would buy an HSD in a heartbeat if I was to buy a cargo bike.

[@karls6802]

Ouch! $3000 ebike that is billed as a bike without the extras! Like the design, better thought out than most. Love the Bosch mid-drive. Brilliant, this is better, smarter than most ebikes companies on the market who seem to be stuck in the past and fail to evolve. Why not an Internal gear hub with belt drive - cleaner design, no chain to muck up, fewer bits and pieces sticking out to get caught on things, damaged, etc., and lower maintenance? The label for the bike is, 'Tern Quick Haul E-Bike' - yet the rear rack is rated at only 124 lbs. I would say that a design flaw for a bike with "Haul" in the title. Perhaps in a future upgrade, they can find a more robust structure connecting to the frame, allowing a passenger to ride on the back. Best of luck with this design, but at $3000 it's a bit to rich for a starter ebike for me.

[@DaNiePred]

Thanks for that video. I am wondering, what is the major difference between HSD and Quick Haul? Both are about the same size. I know the HSD list price is a bit higher than the Quick Haul, but street price are pretty much comparable already. I was looking for the Quick Haul, but the HSD for the same price (in Germany) was already available, so I took the HSD 🙂 Would be happy to see a comparison video with a pro and con list for each bike and what speaks for each of them. EDIT: Haha, when writing a comment before the video ends. Looking forward to the comparison Video 🙂

[@BikeShopGirl]

Hey David, did you read the detailed article linked in the description?

[@DaNiePred]

@@BikeShopGirl Not yet, but will do soon :-)

[@carolineliu6938]

Does Term have a throttle to assist when starting on a hill?

[@BikeShopGirl]

Hey Caroline, Tern does not do throttle bikes for one big reason: There are no UL certified systems that we have found safe enough to partner with

[@difflocktwo]

@@BikeShopGirl Hard to believe when almost everything aerospace/automotive is drive by wire. Even a simple button would function as a hill assist throttle. Shimano has a walk mode via button press.

[@athollmcnicoll1028]

Okay my key question is : Will this E-bike be coming to the UK and if so when can I expect to see it in my local showroom? Oh and for how much will it cost me as here in the UK we use ££'s not $$'s as I presume you are aware ?

[@BikeShopGirl]

Hi Atholl! It is available in the UK since last fall. You may want to reach out to your local dealers to see how long their order list is. We are hearing at some dealers they are presold for a little while.

[@clock_roach]

We've been loving our original GSD for a while and are strongly considering this as a second ebike for the family. Is that Q3 date for all the bikes or can we expect demo models to start filtering out to bike shops before that so we can give it a try and put in a preorder?

[@BikeShopGirl]

Hey Chris, due to the crunch on supply chains there won't be many early samples in the market as we have been able to do with other launches but will be doing our best. Where are you located?

[@leeku7768]

Is the Q3 date for Europe also?

[@pjpknipper]

Do you have a recommendation for a frame lock for the quickhaul?

[@BikeShopGirl]

5750l! store.ternbicycles.com/products/abus-5750l-nr-frame-lock-shield-plus-frame-lock-black

[@pjpknipper]

@@BikeShopGirl thanks.

[@joncarpenter9589]

Anyone have experience with the Bosch motor in cold cold weather?

[@BikeShopGirl]

Oh yeh! Where do you live? I used bosch e-bikes as my main transportation in Colorado

[@joncarpenter9589]

@@BikeShopGirl the top of Wisconsin, like subzero at times. I would use it less in extreme, negative temps weather, but if it can handle it that would be fantastic. (I think the batteries would suffer more than possibly motor).

[@BikeShopGirl]

Check out my video with Luke about ebike winter bike maintenance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nILMfYSJbbqejNE

[@annahumberstone5804]

Do you think this could carry for a short ride an adult on the back ?

[@seregiel9541]

You're still Denver, right? I keep looking for places to try one out and when I call it's not actually THERE. Any pointers?

[@BikeShopGirl]

Hi there, I live in NC these days. This bike will not be at dealers until mid to late summer. I work for Tern and have a sample for content and events.

[@seregiel9541]

@@BikeShopGirl Thank you!

[@leeku7768]

Given that speeds in the UK are capped at 15.5mph, does getting a P9 over a D8 make much sense?

[@hemaccabe4292]

I thought that was a second battery, oh well. What kind of grunt does the motor have? Also, not seeing a throttle? Unfortunately, not rated for us heavier riders.

[@frankfurter7260]

What happened to a video every Monday? I thought you might teach me how to change a flat (Vektron S10). 🤓

[@BikeShopGirl]

Unfortunately Covid hit (still congested in the video!)We will be back at a weekly video soon.

[@frankfurter7260]

I’m sorry you are going through that. I hope you feel all better soon.

[@BikeShopGirl]

Thanks, frank! Doing ok :)

[@jadeethan]

When can i buy this bike? Is it available for sale specifically the p9 performance in the United States? Thanks

[@BikeShopGirl]

Arrives in Q3 🙌🏽

[@jadeethan]

@@BikeShopGirl Thanks! Would you be able to tell me what size rear hub and axle it the quick haul uses?

[@slayde1087]

I would have preferred a 2 battery system

[@jorishintube]

4/11 to 6/5, what is that in real measurements, for people outside US and Myanmar? ;-)

[@hemaccabe4292]

I appreciate you and Tern wanting to share your plans with us as early as possible. Still, I would have recommended holding this video until we had a very solid release date and then only if that date was imminent.

[@BikeShopGirl]

Depending on your country, they were weeks away from available due to being made in market :)

[@hemaccabe4292]

@@BikeShopGirl This bike may be on sale somewhere, but it's not on sale here. Here it's just something that isn't available, won't be available anytime soon and that's kind of annoying. If I had a nickel for every vaporware e-bike that never did materialize, I could pay cash for this bike. You seem to reflect Tern's US promotion, so if I were Tern, I would have held this video until a little closer to release. Just a humbly offered suggestion.

[@BikeShopGirl]

@@hemaccabe4292 Where are you based? They have been shipping and delivered in all of our markets. They are also pre-sold most places so it may be that shops near you didn't order enough.

[@K1989L]

I just wish we could leave cables in the past where they belong and just use electronic shifting.

[@badimpulses17]

The price is ridiculously high

[@BikeShopGirl]

Only if you compare it to the bike in your garage vs the car in your garage :)

[@badimpulses17]

@@BikeShopGirlum a bike has it's limits there no comparison.