2024 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro| Does It Have Class Leading Off-Road Capability?

[@antonios2846]

One of the few honest and professional rider and journalist that just says things as they are! Great video as usual!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers!

[@here2enjoy-bt8jq]

Do we have biased motorcycle journalists?

[@oohermissus6655]

@@here2enjoy-bt8jq yep, Missenden flyer is one off em

[@Bikebros27]

The throttle response do you think that it could be solved with some running and remapping.

[@fredensminde]

Off road, on road, race, adventure, drag race....no one above or besides your reviews👍. Absolute favorite bike tester.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Good review. Completely agree with your conclusion… and that’s exactly why I bought a 2024 Rally Pro😊

[@oohermissus6655]

My only gripes as somebody who only rides on roads to get to and from the trails I want to ride are as follows; 1) The suspension is too soft, I’ve had to work the magic by adding preload, rebound and compression. Now it’s dialed. No need to upgrade to springs. 2) The oil view window, it’s so dark. I can barely see the oil through it. Why didn’t they put a lightly shaded rear so you can see the oil fill level. I have to use the camera on my phone to see where it’s at. Before anybody comments that it’s dirty oil. This was after I put Castrol oil in it which is red in colour. 3) why does it come with road tyres. I can understand it on the GT pro but not the Rally. They put off-road tyres on the scramblers and they can’t do what my Rally can off-road. I’ve had it 2.5 months now and clocked 3478 miles, mostly harsh trails. The engine still sings sweet. The bike is a peach. I can outpace my friend easily off-road and he rides a Yamaha Tenere world raid. This bike is a weapon. Both on road and off. I’m not fussed about warranty unless it’s to do with the electrics. So will be only using Triumph every 12months for the stamp in the book. I change the oil every 4000miles on my bikes. Plus I simply don’t trust anyone else to do what I pay for. First service. I checked the filter and oil after it was in at Triumph. Same filter, same oil. So I changed them both a few days later and the crap that was in the oil. Imagine if I’d ran it on that oil to 6000 miles to its next service. Engine would be rough. This is my 2nd Rally Pro. They are a phenomenal bike in the right hands. Like any bike. You got to tweak it to your weight. This bike was setup from factory with a rider weight of 80kg. Bear that in mind. Fine on road but off road it blows through its travel. I weigh 105kg. My fork preload is -4 from full. Compression is -5 from full and rebound is -7 from full. Rear just set normally for the 30% sag. Plus, for heavens sake change those tyres, even if it’s only for looks. I’ve put Dunlop Trailmax raids on. They do the off-road stuff great and are super sticky on the roads even in the wet.

[@Kevg777]

Hi mate, picking mine up at the weekend, issues with the tyres then?

[@WildCogs]

Totally with you on the tyres, the 2024 900 is the most off road they have released yet they fit road tyres?

[@amirdoost8527]

Still waiting for Chris review on Aprillia Tuareg

[@clarkstreetcustoms]

Excellent review Chris. You hit it right on the button - it’s right down the middle which is why I bought one. It’s spot on for a 70/30 on/off-road rider like me. It is a little tall and tippy at low speed for the shorter folks (I am 5’7” and have the Triumph low seat option fitted) but you get used to it and that’s what you get for the benefits 9.5 inches of suspension travel. On the throttle response in Off-Road Pro mode, you can customise that to the “Sports” throttle map which is how I run it and it restores that low end punch and quick response you were looking for. The bikes are sensitive to suspension set up as you mentioned (and others in the comments) particularly off-road. Triumph recommend minimum preload in the rear and max preload in the front for ‘off-road broken terrain’. Only takes 5 minutes and it transforms the bike (more rake) for great stability. I can hang no problems with my mates on their 790/890’s in the rough stuff. Quick change back to road settings and even the hardened KTM peeps know which bike they’d rather ride home on at the end of a long day… Great review. Thanks again.

[@oohermissus6655]

I’m 6-1, it’s fine for me. Momentum is key. Don’t be afraid to send it down a rutted trail. Just sort the suspension to your weight first.

[@oohermissus6655]

Plus I’d rate it as a 50/50 bike. Since they tweaked the engine it’s much better on the throttle off-road

[@KiwiMoto72]

From one KZbinr to another, nice work! I actually just ordered one of these babies in black. Very excited

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Hi Chris, just your introduction has me chuckling. Love your work mate. 👍😎🇦🇺

[@twowheelboomer]

@4:10 1982 Yamaha Virago was my first bike!!

[@dalemeadows225]

I had one as a loan bike while my speed triple was in for a service. I was shocked how much I liked it, fantastic bike. Heated seats are an absolute game changer. Such a comfortable ride. My speed triple felt tiny when I got back on it

[@artiecisneros4691]

That's funny you mentioned the Yamaha Virago; my all time favorite bike and wish I still had it. It was an 1100 by the way. Thanks for sharing.😎

[@davewash50]

Great review Chris, honest and intelligent. Completely agree, and that’s why I absolutely love my ‘24 Rally Pro. Thank you👍

[@willsta21]

I just spent 15mins clenching my sphincter with you and single track roads, been riding 22 years and have a tiger 9 which I dropped at slow speed and took the hit instead of my bike. Broke my collar bone in 6 places and had two plates fitted but my bikes still pretty and shiny! Still the best bike I’ve ever owned hands down… Anyone tries to talk you into a 12 they’re just riling you up to spend more money.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Ouch! Glad you're OK.

[@timsalabimbombassa]

Totally agree with the throttle response thing. You feel there’s a computer between you and the rear wheel. No one else seems to mention that. I wonder which other bikes Chris does like the throttle response of. A T7 still has that direct connection imo. No coincidence that is still an old fashioned cable throttled bike probably…

[@iainwilson4463]

One issue I and others I've struggle with is slow speed stalls. I did the Triumph Adventure course in Michigan earlier this year. We all had new 24 RP's and a few of us were stalling a lot doing slow-speed maneuvers. I wonder if the off-road throttle issue you experienced is related (We used the Off Road Pro mode too). Perhaps it could be resolved with a different MAP setting...

[@bensmith7536]

I had a Triumph Tiger XCX a few years ago, 2016 model, incredible bike, I stepped off a GSXR1000 and took a gamble. Never looked back, ADV bikes from now on. Triumph for me is the only legitimate equal to BMW for ADV bikes, my '23 Rallye is beyond perfect but if i had the funds a 900 Tiger would be parked right next to it.

[@actstuntcam]

Nice one Chris. You are the first (And only) Motojourno to be honest about RBW. As far as I'm concerned, they're all bad. Your honesty is refreshing, I hope it doesn't bite you in the back side. I imagine you'll have to field tons of hate and people accusing you of being a neandertal, tech-phobic...etc. You also committed that most heinous of online crimes, you pointed out how great a good set of carbs are - I can't imagine how much hate you'll get for that. Brave man. I find RBW falls into two categories. 1- It rips all the character out of a bike and makes it feel bland and like it is only making 2/3rds of its rated hp. This flaccid riding experience and poor throttle response isn't bad on low-hp bikes, where you just always keep it pinned to the stop and just smash up and down the gearbox. But that uncertainty of 'what will happen when I twist the throttle?' on a powerful bike is disconcerting at best and dangerous at worst. I haven't ridden a single modern bike that hasn't tried to kill me within an hour. Anyway, keep up the great work. CAM FROM NZ:)

[@mediocremichael]

How do make 19 mph look fast?!? Another great vid - quickly becoming one of my favorite channels

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers!

[@WeAreTheTrueMedia]

I love you Chris and completely agree with you about the mechanical side but disappointed you didn't talk about the electronics. I've got a '21 Rally Pro which is surprisingly capable on and off road but the fact you have to come to a stop to be able to change from on-road traction and throttle map to off-road is infuriating. The guys I ride with have Yamahas and Aprilias and they have to wait for me every time we change from 'stand up green lanes' to tarmac and vice-versa, while I stop to press buttons. I hoped that the 2024 model would address this issue. And don't get me started on the tyre pressure monitoring keep warning you to stop the bike every time you ride over a small rock. Mechanically it's brilliant how it can go from fast comfort road riding to some very competent off-road. It's just frustrating that an awesome bike is let down by things that could be fixed with just a software update.

[@oohermissus6655]

In them situations I just leave it in sport mode unless it’s got any uphills. Then I change it. Mostly I never change from road mode. No point, by the time the traction control decides to kick in and going too fast for it to matter when off-road

[@WeAreTheTrueMedia]

​@@oohermissus6655 But the road throttle map is too sensitive off road and you need the traction control off in muddy stuff. Your comment only suggests a 'work-around' for the most basic off-road scenarios without addressing the fact that Triumph insist you coming to a standstill to be able to change modes when most other manufacturers don't make the rider do this.

[@oohermissus6655]

@@WeAreTheTrueMedia if you are experienced enough you cope. I could run a sport bike down what most people out there call “technical”.

[@TimZ750]

⁠@@oohermissus6655find this hard to believe, that you can ride technical trails with sport TC. Any technical uphill is pretty much impossible in any of the road modes, the bike would grind to a halt. Just ride the road sections in off-road mode and leave it there, means you don’t get punished by TC when the front wheel comes up and will likely improve your riding anyway 👍

[@sattvicvelo3506]

My favourite reviewer ever period ;-) love your work mate.

[@lewisbay51]

Do you prefer the 900 rally pro or the 1200 rally pro?

[@inked-96]

The only thing that stopped me from buying any high-end Triumph. The servicing costs are ridiculous!

[@markmundy3435]

Price up 18000 mile belt service on a Ducati desert x. Now that WILL make your eyes water!

[@inked-96]

@markmundy3435 just had a look at what owners had been quoted for their big desmo service. It's not much more than what tiger owners have had to pay. It's like £850-1050 for it's 12k service. Mental.

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

Who the hell uses a dealer for basic maintenance? Turn your own wrenches.

[@inked-96]

@MagnumMuscle1000 To keep your warranty, it has to be a main dealer here in the UK. This is said on their website. 'The machine must not have been subject to any modification, repair or replacement other than as authorised by Triumph Motorcycles Ltd. 3. The machine must have been serviced by an authorised Triumph dealer, at the intervals specified in the Triumph Owner’s Handbook and the service log completed accordingly.

[@oohermissus6655]

They try and quote me £1000 for a service and I’m telling them to F off.

[@dariocp87]

What an excellent review as always! But WHEN are you going to test the Aprilia Touareg?? 😂😂😂 Cheers mate! You’re and incredible rider and motorcycle journalist!

[@tigerrider007]

Well done Chris! A crackin' review sir! I like your KZbin presence and delivery so I keep watching your videos. Question, when it comes to the throttle response, do you think if you would've gone into Rider mode (customizable) and selected the Sport fuel map, the throttle would have given you that quick delivery, to maybe clear those little pot holes and what not? I have experience with my Tiger 800, so I think you can do this on the new 900 as well. Anyway, thanks mate for delivering good stuff!

[@antglu123]

Reminds me of my F850. Looks like it and is also a bit top heavy. I’d buy it because it looks as nice as my f850. Good review

[@boostaholic7116]

Chris tells it how it is you gotta take your gatboff to him. Best biker reviews bar none! 👍

[@Rufus-OG]

Another excellent review. #1 Bike reviewer on KZbin 👍🏻

[@urbanstrencan]

The best motorcycle journalist out there great work Chris keep it up,❤❤❤

[@dominichayes9808]

Great comment and detail on the throttle response.

[@averagebiker]

Always enjoy these vids - looks like great fun.

[@redmandubblyou9833]

Hey Chris can you please tell me the brand of goggles you found to fit your Shoei hornet adv lid? Cheers mate.

[@Bikebros27]

I’m 5ft 6 and find it more that comfortable enough to handle on the road love the bike.

[@woodywood3388]

Great video, but if it’s not “Best in class”, what is? Would have been useful to hear your opinion.

[@scottyg9772]

Im currently tossing up between this or the teneré world raid hopefully a VS video?

[@telstales8976]

I’ve seen a few of your off road adventure bike video’s and you’re very keen on the T7 you really need to have a go on the Tuareg 660 I’ve ridden both and out of the box Tuareg is just better. Obviously it’s subject to opinion and I now own one so I’m bias but I’d like to see you’re thoughts on it

[@joshrandall5297]

The only complaint I've heard is the low rake angle of the front end. It creates instability offroad.

[@jamesmuller4232]

Thanks for the review.

[@anshusharma1523]

The reviews by you are a delight to watch! We are eagerly waiting for your (you, Chris) review of the BMW F900GS. When is it going to happen?

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

There are already tons of reviews of that crap Chinese special.

[@anshusharma1523]

@@MagnumMuscle1000 Sorry I didn't get you. Do you mean that the bike is not good enough?

[@inked-96]

@anshusharma1523 The reason he says Chinese special is because the F900 Parallel twin is made in China.. but so is the phone he's typing on, his TV, laptop, and so on. Bmw has been using Loncin made engines for nearly 20 years..like some manufacturers, they have had issues. Especially with the 850gs.. but so has the top of the range 1250GS and now 1300.. KTM/CF MOTO uses Chinese engines as well. Ignore people like this. They just like to be Internet keyboard warriors.. he's a ducati fan from his comment left on another video.. and we all know that Ducati's are super reliable 🤣🤣🤔

[@anshusharma1523]

@@inked-96 Thanks for the clarity!

[@anshusharma1523]

@@inked-96 Thanks for the clarity.

[@Dushyant933]

I've been waiting for your review on scrambler 400x for so long.

[@toreugelstad909]

7.48 ...and here I was, thinking you just were happy to se me... :D

[@danielyurkiw1413]

What were the 60/40 tires you fitted it up with?

[@inked-96]

It's said in the video. AX41

[@magnuswegren7204]

@@inked-96 looked like Dunlop Trailmax Raid's to me...

[@chrisnorthover7582]

Well spotted! I ordered some AX41s to fit but forgot the Triumph is a 17" rear (I ordered 18"). Luckily had some Trailmax Raids in the shed so popped them on.

[@inked-96]

@magnuswegren7204 It's said in the video. They were in a41's, swapped them out for a more 60/40 in the AX41's.

[@Rossi593]

I’ve just finished a 4,200 mile, 23 day ride in the US on the TET and BDR routes with a 50:50 on off-road mix. I rode a 690 Enduro and my buddy a 900 Tiger Rally. Both preformed fabulously. The Tiger is too (top) heavy for me but in the hands of Simon who is taller, heavier and stronger than me it was the perfect tool. The lower centre of gravity of a KTM 890 would, I believe, have made that the better bike.

[@deanwaring6100]

Great review 👍🏻👍🏻

[@PeteAnda]

Brilliant. Poor Throttle feel is like no steering feel in new cars. Eventually people will forget….

[@PeteAnda]

Brilliant as usual. Thanks.

[@buckymoto1784]

Are you gonna have a go on the new Guzzi Stelvio?

[@sugarrfree]

Class review 💪

[@jamesastbury15]

Looks slightly like an angry chicken 😂 that’s literally a perfect description

[@Davidkxf]

In the manual they tell you to max out front preload and completely slack out on the rear to change the rake angle for offroad.

[@johnnyblue4799]

That sounds very wrong.

[@Davidkxf]

@@johnnyblue4799 I need to change pads, bought the bike used and maybe the pads are glazed.

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@Davidkxf Ok, but brake pads and suspension preload are two different things. Spring preload should be set right for the rider's weight. It's not meant to be used to change the bike's geometry.

[@Davidkxf]

@@johnnyblue4799 Oops sorry, I also posted that the brakes are crap on my bike. I know it's counterintuitive regarding the preload but that is what Triumph tells you to do.

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@Davidkxf

[@NinthIcyOrange]

Damn... why do I suddenly want a Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro?

[@oohermissus6655]

Value for money against others in its class. All the toys for 2000 less than the equivalent F900GS up to this spec. Weighs 20kg less than the F900GS adventure. Power is less lunatic than a KTM 890 adventure. So very manageable but no slouch. Fuel economy is better than a F900. Tenere is too basic unless you buy the world raid, but you have to buy the heated grips and that’s only the start. This bike is loaded with more stuff than you will ever really use. Better to have it and not need it, than want it and not have it.

[@JD2ndcity]

How come the Tuareg never gets mentioned?

[@PDCRed]

Servicing is no mystery. Do it yourself and save an absolute bundle. Triumph servicing, or do it yourself. I’ll take the latter.

[@RandomPunter-xo9tx]

A lot of people, myself included, now buy these bikes on PCP finance and it is expected to use manufacturer servicing. Adds to total cost of ownership but if you want to hand it back at the end of term they'll penalise you for not doing it that way.

[@winstonwolff]

Looks so much smaller & lighter than my Norden 901. Did I get the wrong one?

[@tubejorrit]

Triumph should make a SMT/Tracer 9 version of the Tiger 900.

[@mbal4052]

You know they make the GT?

[@tubejorrit]

@@mbal4052 still has a 19 inch front wheel and narrow rear tire. Give it 17 inch front and rear with a 180 rear tire ten it can compete with the tracer/smt

[@pckmuresan]

Yeah. Angry chicken is the best image.

[@fozzy1717]

As a ktm adventure rider this does appeal to me

[@robm3357]

It seems in all of the off road videos I’ve seen of the Triumph Rally the rear end is very under dampened. It looks to be kicking the rear up over every jump.

[@gpzfan5272]

Better than an 890 R or DesertX off road?

[@chrisnorthover7582]

I prefer the 890R, especialy on low speed techy stuff.

[@zufadhlibuhari528]

The ride by wire throttle is a hiccup for all bikes out from triumph factory. When full throttle the throttle will not give it 100%. Throttle remapping is recommended! 😊

[@ripmax333]

When you are a very capable rider as this guy, everything is have class leading handling😅

[@mikelyon5595]

It should have been sent with offroad tires!

[@theriderdtm8650]

Yehaaaaa ❗✌🏻

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

Please don't make all the chickens angry, they have a short, stressy existence. Thanks.

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

You did say Chicken, didn't you? Oh, now I think I'm going mad......

[@RealHooksy]

Five eight isn’t average, it’s short 😎

[@johnshropshire3399]

👍👍👏

[@Davidkxf]

My TRP 900 has crap brakes, not sure what's wrong.

[@DelindaPabich]

❤

[@HarmanpreetSingh-ke5cp]

Bro has a banana in his pocket 💀

[@dianedownie5951]

BMW f900 GS?????????

[@a8f235]

Looks like an angry chicken lol...

[@W00LFY100]

Two tenths of bugger all 😂

[@justsmashing4628]

will NEVER buy another Triumph…they screwed all their customers in SA…the xc wasn’t a good bike anyway.

[@Scarletpimp72]

Plenty have gone around the world on that bike, ive ridden one and its amazing. Yes its a lump off road but thats the excitment, if you cant handle it stick to chicken chasers.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Whos taking these 220 kg bikes off road?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

We did!

[@Indarow]

I take my fully bagged KLR 650 off road.

[@wl660]

Off road is an option - and Bike World we’re testing the “class leading” claims. Many will only actually go off road at ABR - or light gravel paths.😂

[@martyn94ma]

Class leading was a joke listen

[@markmundy3435]

Me, well not the 900 but its bigger brother, the 1200 Rally Pro.

[@kmacs9905]

Triumph will never be in the lead of anything but repair bills and shitty service departments.

[@Farsightful]

Let triumph know i will not buy a Tiger900 because CHRIS ate a banana.

[@joeblow5037]

Those roads of yours wouldn't even be one lane here in big fat 'Merica. No wonder you don't see any Vettes or Hummers.

[@inked-96]

You don't see many for a few reasons. Import costs are ridiculous in the UK. Fuel cost. Tax cost. Insurance cost. Emissions zones. Back roads being to small.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@inked-96 Speed cameras.

[@Scarletpimp72]

You say that like its a bad thing. lol

[@Billybondz]

I got ktm 890, and I love it .

[@Bikebros27]

I’m 5ft 6 and find it more that comfortable enough to handle on the road love the bike.