Bil-Jax XLB-4232 Motor Replacement from Gas to Electric

[@ForensicCats]

It's a counterbalance valve you need... for that ''run away" on the lowering cylinder

[@ForensicCats]

Keep in mind, that excess speed can cause the machine to tip over with the sudden jerk and increased force.

[@Off-Grid]

@@ForensicCats counterbalance valve, thank you. Where would it go? I'm still using the lift. Sometimes it drops faster than I'd like and sometimes it's smooth and other times it acts like it is stuck. If stuck, I just raise up to take the pressure off and try again and I'll work.

[@ForensicCats]

@@Off-Grid it has pilot valve from the ''extend'' that feeds the counterbalance valve and on the ''retract'' it goes inline (from the exit of your return to tank to the p port of the valve and then from that to the tank)... it works by pressure from the up/extend / pilot pressure and the difference of the down force from the greater pressure created because of the surface area of the face of the cylinder surface area... The other nasty sound you may hear when you disconnect that wire might be pump running ''dry'' and that is not good. Buy, the adjust knob one, so you can adjust the down pressure and you might be able to buy one without the pilot connection but that is not the better one as you can cause a flow balance issue if you restrict it too much ... the pilot valve version balances this more safely. So, confirm with the other link I sent you, that it uses a pilot valve system , ask the seller. And, make sure you tell them you need about it rated for the pressure in your hydraulic lines... Please, confirm the true pressure by installing a gauge inline and check the pressure on extend and check the pressure on retract... you will find your pressure difference and issue there.

[@ForensicCats]

Also, the heat on that motor is because it might not have a larger fan at the rear to keep it cool or the ambient air is too hot to be able to cool down the motor. It will have a temperature rating on it somewhere.

[@Off-Grid]

Thank you, I have some direction now and will get it fixed. I plan to use it a lot this next spring.

[@horsedrag2468]

Got a Genie and the digital motherboard and the related redundant safety system is more dangerous than not. It's a 24 Volt pump and solenoid valves. I'm planning on a 12-volt complete pump and valve system to eliminate all the nutty digital and 24-volt systems. Yes everyone thinks I'm nuts but now I know another nut.

[@Off-Grid]

Everyone said it couldn't be done. I called several mechanic shops and no one would touch it. I'm still using the lift and it works, just needed to work the kinks out. I'm not a hydraulic specialist either. This was my first time doing anything like this. Seems to have worked out. Good luck on your project.

[@horsedrag2468]

Update. I'm using the 24 V motor and pump that came with it but with 2 12Volt batteries not 4 6 Volts. Going to use push buttons from the ground to operate the outriggers, quite simple I jumped it all and they work fine. I'm using a 8 button wireless in the bucket 3 button pump up and down a motor activator, and swivel all jumped in to my ground switches. I found many cracked wires, the mother board, and motor controller were all done. I simply connect the two 12Volt batteries to a standard solenoid works great. Good luck. Be safe.

[@franciscolecona5793]

You can make me one like yours I have one but I don't want to put that new system on it you can do it for me

[@Off-Grid]

It took some time to figure out how to make it all work. Runs like a camp now. I don't think it was possible to fix it using the existing setup. Switching to an electric motor and remote controller was an ideal solution.

[@chadcampbell4970]

All you really needed to do was get an electric motor and couple it to the pump that was attached to the gas engine 🤷‍♂️

[@Off-Grid]

Maybe but this eliminated all but two hydraulic hoses that lead up to the bucket because now the controls are remote controlled. And the old Hydraulic manifold wasn't working properly. And this was a brand new pump system vs a 40yr old one. It all needed and upgrade and I still use it today with the same electric motor setup