Billy's Expert Negotiation for Acquiring Ricardo Rincon | Moneyball (Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill)

M dears, let's delve into this situation. Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) aims to trade Mike Magnante for the talented Ricardo Rincon from Cleveland, all while avoiding Rincon's remaining salary. His plan involves offering Mike Venafro to other teams interested in Rincon. Yet, the challenge lies in the A's limited funds, forcing Beane to negotiate shrewdly to acquire players without incurring full salaries.
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🎬Moneyball (2011): Billy Beane (Brad Pitt), general manager of the Oakland A's, one day has an epiphany: Baseball's conventional wisdom is all wrong. Faced with a tight budget, Beane must reinvent his team by outsmarting the richer ball clubs. Joining forces with Ivy League graduate Peter Brand (Jonah Hill), Beane prepares to challenge old-school traditions. He recruits bargain-bin players whom the scouts have labeled as flawed, but have game-winning potential. Based on the book by Michael Lewis.
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[@mathewwilliams4352]

Can we all just give Suzanne a round of applause getting all them people on the phone so quick

[@carlanderska]

Suzanne had them all on shortcuts or speeddial

[@ExcitedBaseball-xq1nr]

She was a paid actor. They were already on the phone. Do not be fooled

[@nisalhiranthaperera5395]

Guys, thats the last day of the playee trade offs. Every manager would grow roots near the phone during them last 24 hours.

[@mathewwilliams4352]

@@ExcitedBaseball-xq1nr I thought it was real I didn’t know they recreated it

[@ExcitedBaseball-xq1nr]

@@mathewwilliams4352 you are welcome! Have a wonderful evening secure in the knowledge you know now and forevermore henceforth and hitherto

[@kaiz3nberg]

“You don’t even know who Eckerton is” always kills me 😂😂😂

[@piedude333ify]

Is Venefro hurt?

[@carlossaldana1626]

Spitting out the popcorn kernel always kills me too lol

[@bruce4303]

I've seen this movie at least a dozen times, and every time I hear him referring to "Anderson" as "Michaelson" it kills me 🤣

[@gurk_the_magnificent9008]

And every time the other GMs come back with “______? I like _____.” “You don’t even know who _____ is.”

[@mrpink99]

@@gurk_the_magnificent9008 or my favorite "No you don't, nobody does! I don't even know why I'm doing this!"

[@ryanboldt7751]

one of my all time favs...

[@joshuapatrick682]

Not to dampen the mood but the guy they sent down was 1 month away from being fully vested in MLB’s pension….never pitched again and became a math teacher. Professional sports is a cruel world man…

[@autonomouspilgrimage6137]

He still lived out a dream that only the top 1% of the 1% that play a sport get to experience. There’s countless players that got injured in college or high school and never got to experience their dream of playing in the major leagues

[@darthjar9117]

Who was it?

[@animal10.05]

@@autonomouspilgrimage6137 while that is a nice silver lining, the human experience is about failure and adjusting to be successful. It's hard to see going from being an almost MLB pensionier to Math teacher as anything but failure, objectively, but I bet, and hope that the mlb player in question feels like it all worked out.

[@autonomouspilgrimage6137]

@@animal10.05 it’s also hard to see a dream never come to fruition, end up working a dead end job making nothing, and NEVER make it to the majors. Making it to the majors and playing isn’t a failure….never making it is the true failure if we are being cynical about it

[@Echohawkdn]

​@@darthjar9117Mike Magnante

[@bobbressi5414]

I realize this is a movie adaptation, but I love watching people who are excellent at what they do.

[@nahor88]

I don't think enough is said about how difficult it is being the GM for a small market team. $225K would be chump change for a team like the Yankees or Dodgers. George Steinbrenner likely wiped his ass with a wad of Benjamins. Even in this movie, the Yankees pay David Justice to play against them.

[@christophergargaro959]

Around the time of this movie, the Astros had a real internal document leaked that had e-mails and texts with trade talks and they sounded exactly like this. It's literally fantasy sports for real.

[@dylankrejci9965]

“Fantasy sports for real”…. So….. sports?

[@rianczer]

@@dylankrejci9965 lmao funny comment fr, but "sports" already refers to the game played by the players themselves - not sure what the "proper" name of the game played by the owners and managers of the teams is, but it sure is an exclusive one lol

[@jonascastejon5888]

Maybe that's why this scene feels authentic.

[@SuccimusPrime]

​@@dylankrejci9965i think the OP is trying to say that we think GMs sound like Harvard Lawyers when in reality they sound like 2 dudes in a bar

[@Matesozen]

@@dylankrejci9965ironic you’re trying to be condescending but missed their point entirely

[@GizmoBeach]

Suzanne was later traded to Boston for a clerk to be named later.

[@sce2aux464]

I think it was Denise, acquired from the Mets.

[@a126366184]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@claytonadair2623]

Nice

[@kingsasquatch]

She should’ve gotten on base more often

[@zitakenny7787]

Get Australia 🇦🇺 on the line, we'll take Suzanne 😂

[@soricesofast]

He’s eating popcorn out of a coffee filter! 😂 great detail

[@walksalot_talksalot]

I love it! "If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid."

[@sn4rl277]

Yes, attention to details. Sells that they are on a shoe string budget.

[@camselle]

I do that all the time! 🍿

[@lomarsweed6604]

@@sn4rl277 It's not really a budget thing, bowls aren't expensive... It's more of a convenience thing, the pressure cooker of constantly wracking your brain to try and build a winning team has you taking shortcuts on the mundane things in life.

[@twallace71a]

And Pitt is known for his acting while eating. Watch any of the Oceans movies.

[@jonboxleitner7354]

"Yes, I, I added the please at the end" 🤣4:18

[@jae368]

I laugh so hard when he 1. hits the “end call” button, and THEN 2. says “call you back.”

[@marvinstheman88]

That and the assistant going in for the second high five and Billy's already moved on. Every time.

[@killthecardinals]

..that was the mute button.

[@clarkwolfe]

@@killthecardinals Nah. He never muted himself on that call, which is why they are whispering. In other calls, they use the mute, but not that one.

[@justAman548]

@@killthecardinalsif that was the mute button, when does he hang up?

[@UMPMac]

he doesn't that's the mistake but they left it in. you can even see brad pitt kind of fidget afterwards as if he was about to yell cut and redo the scene but he kept rolling instead@@justAman548

[@lulospawn]

The acting. The chemistry. This movie is amazing even for non baseball fans. This is probably Brad Pitt's finest acting.

[@eadams1057]

i agree. Im not the biggest Pitt fan but hes money in this. Pun intended.

[@lulospawn]

@@eadams1057 and Jonah is ball? That's body shaming

[@jameseglavin4]

Exactly, I pretty much hate sports but I enjoyed this movie because it almost isn’t about baseball, it’s really a character study and a look at how an old system was revolutionized

[@nathanruben3372]

Suzenne is a hell of a secretary..

[@robertvanderwall6919]

She then got an offer from the Sox, which would've been the highest secretary salary of all time in all of spirts.

[@eofalassion]

@@robertvanderwall6919 so basically she's the Donna of the baseball world.

[@timothyslaughter476]

This is my favorite Pitt role. I wonder where he rates it on his list of accomplishments.

[@eadams1057]

totally agree. Not a huge fan but awesome in this.

[@stevem2323]

​@@eadams1057 He was awesome in so many roles love him or not.

[@Deinonuchus]

I like the little detail of him using a drip coffee filter as a popcorn bowl.

[@grimmriffer]

I don't know what happened, but it was very exciting.

[@patrickoakley7890]

"who am i getting fleeced for?" 😂😂

[@stephenmitchell617]

I appreciate that he hung up the phone before saying "call you back".

[@kaiz3nberg]

He unmuted it because he’d muted it before to talk to Jonah’s character

[@carolynmcluskie4561]

@@kaiz3nberg Finally! I know Brad Pitt would never make that kind of mistake -- but it really looked like it until you explained the reason.

[@spidermonkeymonofficial937]

Crazy how 90% of the best baseball players in the world are living their life like they’re object getting traded and traded

[@Thecol1994]

Weirdly my favorite part is when he's eating popcorn and has to spit it out mid chew.. Kills me everytime

[@kxmode]

That was some professional, major league level phone tagging

[@brandonkey181]

"because im amazinggg 😏" gotta love this character

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

4:26 The look when he says please lol, "dont ruin it man!"

[@mg19cal]

0:33 I always loved how he hung up on him *FIRST* and then said "call you back"😂

[@chrismukai4284]

The thumbnail makes me believe Brad Pitt could play Steve Irvin in a movie.

[@averiezonn8663]

Brooooooo. I'm on board, but there are so many great Aussie Actors. Be a shame to give it to a yank.

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

No way could he do Steve's accent. I've met Ozzies who can't do it

[@Turdfurgasonschode]

Steve Irwin you mean?

[@chrismukai4284]

@@Turdfurgasonschode yup. Care so little about the internet it took 3 months to even notice lol

[@thedogwoods5716]

@@averiezonn8663Brad pit instantly makes the movie more money

[@luvslogistics1725]

As a former player I smile at this meat market. These are people being dealt. If you’ve never been traded…you don’t know the feeling.

[@ProfessorThinker-zv5vt]

You've not been trade yourself lmao

[@MMAjsf7]

Did you get traded from little league?

[@lyingcat9022]

Better than getting cut :)

[@luvslogistics1725]

@@lyingcat9022 I’ve been cut, had teams fold, and also didn’t make it in a couple of tryouts. Tryouts are worst as you feel you controlled it and just didn’t deliver.

[@luvslogistics1725]

@@MMAjsf7 I played ice hockey

[@Hockeyfan268]

Masterclass in acting and film work right here, the ease and realness to the scene is amazing. It done so well because of a few things. 1.) both actors sell the scene. Pitt and Hill do a great job at making the conversation not only between themselves sound so smooth and realistic but also the conversations between them and the others around them. They also know what they’re talking about which helps the scene along. Clearly they did their research to sound as knowledgeable as they could. It comes off smoother and less rigid then when you just rehearse the scene. 2.) silence. No music. It lets you hone in on what they’re talking about rather than grandeur of the situation. This is a BIG trade. There’s alot on the line to get rincón, Most movies would add suspense or a huge song to add to the success of it. 3.) camera work. It’s a simple OTS (over-the-shoulder) shot. No wild camera work to distract you, just simple camera shots to convey what’s most important. The dialogue!

[@Finnegan-s-cake]

Honkey fan thinks he knows bAseball

[@Otis151]

Damn it, now I need to watch this movie again.

[@ejo115]

Love how he hung up and then said call you back lol 😂

[@FSB75]

I could watch this scene 100 times and still never fully understand WTF just happened...

[@cherkovision]

I had to take notes myself: He wants Rincon from the Indians, but there are two problems: 1) Rincon is too expensive, and 2) the Indians are already planning on trading him to the Giants. Billy solves problem 2 by offering Venafro (a similar player to Rincon) to the Giants for cheap. He knows the Giants won't accept, but his offer will make them less eager for Rincon. He's so confident that the Giants won't take his offer that he (needlessly) offers Venafro to the Mets before even hearing back from the Giants. Sure enough, the Indians phone back, presumably after learning the Giants don't really want Rincon anymore. Billy then solves problem 1 by offering to pay for Rincon out of his own pocket.

[@brendonbuffaloe8830]

@@cherkovision He got $225,000 and a player for Venafro to solve the financial issue, and he was tired of the manager always bringing him out of the pen instead of the guys Beane wanted to play, which means it wasn’t meaningless to trade Venafro. My bad, I confused Venafro with Magnante. He did clear out salary by dumping Venafro though

[@Rookie_Mode2023]

​@@cherkovisionBilly paying for Rincon out of his own pocket hits different in 2024 when you realize how cheap the A's are in real life.

[@cherkovision]

@@Rookie_Mode2023 that reminds me of something that I've been wondering: was Billy Beane actually offering to pay for Rincon himself? Or was it just a bluff to get Steve to fork out the money? Like, once Steve found out that Rincon could be sold back for more money, he was okay with footing the bill.

[@alexhardiman8582]

​@@cherkovisionthat was my thinking too. Didn't Rincon still have $500k on his contract? so wasn't Billy reliant on selling Venafro and getting $225k one way or another?

[@slyguythreeonetwonine3172]

I'm weird. I love baseball, and to me everything about it is magic. Even this kind of magic.

[@melissae1116]

Great movie, I've seen it many times.

[@PeenWienerstien]

How i feel making my yearly fantasy football trade with my brother or father.

[@roystonlodge]

“Why would I call Phillips?” lol

[@Maxtrash69]

One of my favorite movies ever. I can't tell u the last at bat I've watched of baseball

[@CubanCubeFan]

yes, I added the please

[@rallorama]

4:54 Jonah Hill is amazing in this movie. A great actor!

[@eadams1057]

He really is. He looks like some guy you would see in the grocery store anyday

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

Pete is too funny, you can see he's very passionate but also a socially inapt nerd who's trying to get into sports.

[@jimmyhunter1810]

I'm so completely un-athletic and a huge nerd and I grew up loving sports. Give me box scores and statistics any day of the week. There is nothing I love more than minutiae.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

@@jimmyhunter1810 When stats became a thing in basketball a lot of players were angry at people like you 😂, even though you're the best thing that happened to them. I wish people were data informed like that in all facets of life, especially in serious ones, like Tetlock said. With me i was the stereotypical nerd who's bad at sports and hates them until i went to the gym after school and saw "holy shit, im pretty fricking good!!!"

[@Ally-Oop]

The awkward second go for a high five transitioning into a thoughtful mouth hold 😂

[@teamvoldemort6114]

Sounds like my first time in the sheets. I had no idea what was going on but it was very exciting.

[@SomeFreakingCactus]

Any stories?

[@DustinHalbrooks]

"I added the please" 😂

[@richardvargo2740]

at 0:36 he hangs up before saying "call you back" 😄

[@k3nfr0st39]

Gotta imagine the level of excitement they feel can be overwhelming at times that leads to stuff like this

[@theidealengineer]

Add more realism I think

[@tlangdon12]

This is classic Win-Win deal making; everyone gets something they can be happy with.

[@jameswg13]

Except for the guy who loses his pension and forced to become q maths teacher

[@LuisRdzG10]

Except the players that are traded like objects, without considering anything about them.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

Except when they dont pan out. Remember that Nets trade for a "super team" was "legendary win win".

[@bbnflpn]

Until you have to send someone down a league. Where it can be a couple of seasons of Triple AAA until you make it to The Show again.

[@EliLebowiczComedy]

But sometimes there’s Win Win Win

[@TheJuize85]

The way he grabs the popcorn 😂

[@maxjarvis384]

0.36 he hangs up AND THEN says call you back :P

[@chuckv321]

He hung up--and then said ill call you back😳

[@itsnotme07]

Just once I'd like to hear Billy Beane say "This is somewhat true"....meaning calls like this to make trades... LOL

[@mrpink99]

This scene is fairly true to what happened in real life as documented by Michael Lewis in his book, on which the movie was based.

[@itsnotme07]

@@mrpink99 Very cool! Thanks!

[@cvindustries]

@@itsnotme07 The timeline is compressed, though, in order to make it a "scene". How many phone calls took place in a 5 minute timeframe?

[@itsnotme07]

@@cvindustries Sure, I agree...but what if it was real time like that? Crazy right? Haha.

[@countrybackflip]

I believe in the book they had a two hour deadline for some reason. So, not quite as fast as this but relatively reasonable given the Hollywood treatment.

[@bullfn3]

I like the error at the 37 second mark where he hits the hang up button and then says that he will call him back.

[@sempermilites87]

I like to imagine that Billy slamming his hands onto the desk after getting the okay from the owner to get Rincon is not because they got him, but because Billy realized he just burned $225,000 out of his own pocket that he won't get back for at least a year if they trade him.

[@mruegge]

This will forever be my favorite moneyball scene

[@MaximillianJ]

FUCKING LOVED this movie.

[@FAKADETUKUM]

0:35 just realized he hung up before telling him he will call him back and it looks like brad realizes this, but keeps on acting :D

[@theidealengineer]

Added more realism

[@ExcitedBaseball-xq1nr]

Yes…I….I….I added the please at the end…

[@pgriffinbaron]

and Billy's face after that. I love that little addition.

[@leo_gonzalez777]

i need a flow diagram of this

[@tianyizou8044]

4:20 It’s interesting how Billy makes a disapproving face when Peter say please at the offer, it’s like a dad to his son

[@qwertytwerty7293]

Someone needs to break this scene down and explain exactly what’s going on and who is benefitting and how because a lot of this went over my head.

[@okmangeez]

Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) is trying to acquire a high end reliever from the Indians (Rincon). He contacts the GM of the Indians for Rincon, but discovers that another GM is pressuring the Indians GM for Rincon. So Beane and his assistant GM (Jonah Hill) brainstorm on who might be pursuing Rincon (narrowing down the list to either the Giants or Mets, since both of them might be looking for a lefty reliever). He offers a pitcher (Venefroe) he's willing to part with to the Giants GM for a random reliever. Basically, Venefroe is similar to Rincon, but a bit worse than Rincon (basically, cheaper bait that might interest the other GMs since he would cost less than Rincon). After discussing with the Giants GM, he calls back the Indians GM and realizes that the Giants were not the ones asking for Rincon (since the Giants have a number of other relievers). He immediately goes hard onto the Mets GM, basically offering Venefroe for almost nothing (a random prospect in the Mets' system). The Mets GM accepts after Beane says that the Indians GM is already trading away Rincon (basically a bit of a white lie to advance his aggressive negotiation). So now, since Beane is the only one offering anything for Rincon, the Indians GM accepts Beane's offer for Rincon. However, since the owner of the A's is notoriously stingy, Beane has to ask for some money to pay for the remainder of Rincon's salary (about $300K). Beane puts his own salary on the block to pay for Rincon's remaining salary for the season (which is how badly he wants Rincon).

[@qwertytwerty7293]

@@okmangeez now that is a reply. Thanks very much!

[@Zajuts149]

The quiet clenching of the fist as the owner agrees to put up the money to pay for Rincon😅

[@ZeroToPatrick]

Let's just be honest here: Suzanne runs that whole damn thing

[@rbzsfg]

Giants should have won it all that year. Game 6 still breaks my heart. Barry should have got his ring. Even 2010, 2012, and 2014 can't make me get over 2002.

[@185MDE]

2:03 what’s the name of the effect???

[@danielplainview926]

It's so sad how the A" have deteriorated on purpose.

[@aquiro]

What do you mean?

[@danielplainview926]

@@aquiro it's the complete opposite of the movie.

[@csnide6702]

pathetic - yes ... sad - NO

[@chriswells506]

Me negotiating on Ebay...

[@doesntMetter1]

If that scene was 1 shot, it's crazy

[@claymac7895]

So was Billy serious when he said he’d pay for Rincone himself but he’s keeping the profit or was that just a bluff to get Schot to give in?

[@JDeWittDIY]

Yes.

[@roadtrip2943]

Its a good thing billy kept mulder ,zito, hudson , chavez ,long hernandez and tejada😅

[@GizmoBeach]

See, I don’t even know his name, he sounds like an Oakland A already.

[@miguelguerreiro2569]

I am not sure about this, but it seems that the Michaelson /Anderson mistake wasnt on script but Brad sold it so well it looks part of it.

[@SezarLopez]

He actually wasn’t sent down he was DFA. Yeah that’s the saddest part of this scene you are right he was close to getting a full pension and he never received it

[@pek5117]

This scene reminds me of playing fantasy leauge and having multiple computers with multiple screens on discord and skype telling people ill trade Anderson for Michaelson trying to get a team with good stats, exactly like this movie.

[@Finnegan-s-cake]

Pathetic

[@visionarypine1]

“No you don’t nobody likes Anderson” 😂

[@joseph6270]

suzanne deserves a box of chocolates and a raise for how she coordinated this joint strike MY GAAAHD

[@adrianschroeder2798]

This movie rules

[@pgriffinbaron]

Hands down the best scene of the movie.

[@keithgeisen]

After watching Baseball for over 60 years - Dam I like that show.

[@JohnSmith-fk7sv]

Billy Bean is unreal. He looks just like Brad Pitt in thismovie!!

[@kevinbray9550]

This scene is on par with the futures trading scene at the end of Trading Places for making my head hurt.

[@Komacncheese]

Can anyone tell me why he hits his desk so much at the towards the end?

[@anevabay9771]

Why have I never heard of this movie?? I have to see it

[@thedogwoods5716]

It’s a great movie

[@BlindSwami_]

Brad just crushes this scene. So satisfying

[@tetrazonic]

1:37

[@rzlynt10]

too bad that the 2024 MLB Season will be the A's last season in Oakland. Lots of history from 1968 to present about the Oakland A's. When the A's left Kansas City after the 1967 season, they found a good home in Oakland. Also Joe DiMaggio was their hitting instructor for the 1968 & 69 season. Over the years, The A's won 4 World series Titles (1972-74 and 1989) 2 AL Pennants (1988 and 1990) and countless playoff appearances. Their Bay Bridge rival, the Giants have been in the Bay Area 10 years longer (1958 to present) and it took the Giants from 1958-2010 until they won a World Series. (2 pennants 1962 and 1989) As the old saying goes that applies to the Oakland A's, "it was fun while it lasted."

[@AlexCBrandon]

It’s weird how many times I’ve watched this scene. Enough to notice that Pitt hits the button on his phone to hang up before he says “call you back”

[@wassup287]

This might be Brads most snacky movie

[@npdavis]

I think he's eating something in every scene in Ocean's Eleven.

[@cherkovision]

He eats in half the scenes in every movie he's in. I'm pretty sure it's in his contract. Just like Tom Hanks must be shown peeing at least one time.

[@gregorymontgomery8754]

This is the Tour not Worlds

[@danashane]

Suzanne

[@shwin.]

I love how Shapiro gets absolutely schooled in this video, and then my Jays decided that was the man they wanted to hire. FML

[@Alphoric]

How do baseball transfers work?

[@csnide6702]

you see one team trades a player for another or draft picks or cash......... then gets something in return.......

[@briancharters8720]

Never saw the movie… but that Brad Pitt is one heck of an actor! Not just looks … he just kills in his roles! Respect… except for him dumping Aniston for that crazy lady 😮

[@richardcalisi9188]

how this movie not get nominated or even win Best Pic...beats the hell out of me.

[@stephenmosgrove6559]

Hangs up on Shapiro and then says, “call ya back.” Ooooppss

[@TheAccentPodcast]

“I dont even know his name”😂😂😂

[@Antoninirivera]

“You don’t even know who Eckerton is” 😂

[@andyatkinson9156]

Pete: what do you think we can get for Magnante? Billy: Nothing Me:😂😂😂

[@gilgamesh795]

How I feel playing fantasy baseball

[@georgemacdonald3087]

(tongue-in-cheek) is no one going to mention he hangs up before saying I'll call you back? .......again! :)

[@Pete-rs4yz]

He hung up before "call you back" 0:35 And why celebrate if he had to pay out of pocket?

[@simoneventuri]

He’s hanging the phone before saying “I’ll call you back”

[@ipi223]

for 2 second i put myself in the skin of the chacter of Hill, right on the spot drinking the first coffee need to do a BIG move... eh.. ok Welcome to the Big League!

[@stevehill934]

venefro for fabio?

[@Johnnytotal]

Poor phones, never worked that hard in their entire lifes.

[@johnharris6655]

Rincon actually played for the A's for 3 1/2 seasons, so Beane did not trade him to someone else.

[@daleravic]

26 AA that hurt.

[@CharlieAligaen]

Hangs up, I'll call ya back 😂

[@Argiur]

This is probably what benjis doing at West tigers