Bilt Hamber AutoFoam & Touchless Which is more powerful?

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[@forensicunplugged4295]

Shot this a while back when I first got touch-less.

[@allistairbarratt2880]

Your predictions re end of winter😄😄😄

[@andrewgiles9796]

Can you do some reviews on Nanolex products ??

[@paintgangltd5805]

I really appreciate all you do for the videos Jon, they are so useful and informative!

[@forensicunplugged4295]

I appreciate people like your good self as well thank you.

[@loman0071]

Nice content as always 👍

[@DavidC1]

I find this very interesting with this Sugar Component because I live about 30mintues from some of the biggest Sugar Refineries in the USA in South Florida. BH makes fantastic products.

[@ljhookem14]

Jon’s channels are 2 of my top-5 channels I think every person cleaning their cars, should subscribe to! With that said, from what I’ve seen by many other channels and reviewers they seem to prefer the Auto Foam over the Touchless but that’s why Jon’s information is always so useful.....It makes you think!

[@PabloConcrete]

What are your top 5 channels?

[@DavidC1]

im coming up on a re-up of a major BH resupply. I will be ordering 1 5litere of BH autofoam, and BH Touchless. I will be using touchless for weekly maintence washes. And BH AutoFoam for every 2 weeks.

[@simonjames2855]

I use both, for me touchless is the winner. Used touchon for the first time and was impressed with the gloss and the look of the black plastics.

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

Touchless changed my life! Autofoam smells like heaven but I find it hard to notice its difference as I only use it as a barrier for the contact wash. I want autofoam to be capable of melting bonded contaminants that aren’t water soluble; i.e. making your clay bar quicker, safer, less sandpapery. Is it possible to have something so caustic to melt bonded contaminant yet not damage plastic trim or etch glass?

[@jasondeal298]

Love the videos. Ive learned alot watching your channel. Does other brands have a PIR? Do other bands break it down like BH?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

PIR is the same regardless of brand mate... not many brands specify things by PIR though... they tend to say 1:10 in a lance for example

[@masssc2000]

I am interested in Touchless but having bought auto foam not long ago I have loads left to get through. But I will try it in near future not doubt. With Touch On i saw that Clean Your Ride put 10ml of product to 490ml of water and use it as a detail spray. Now that does look interesting so I bought one to try for myself.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

you can use touch-on at about 4% pir as a spray and rinse sealant.

[@bodstrup]

Your test shows a much better cleaning power for Touchless - than other tests of the same product. Did Touchless get any advantage in this test - this is not a sponsored test ? - I do not recall you stating this. I did order a can of the product following your test - would really like to be able to do quick, touch-less intermediate washes. Hope to be able to test tomorrow.

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

I just bought 5l of touchless on the back of your other video so this better be the answer I'm hoping for 😅

[@mikeprice8307]

How well does it perform?

[@GoodLuggageAutomotiveDetailing]

I still can't get head around which is better. I would still be happy enough to run with Autofoam instead. The massive difference is the touch on stuff though, this is really good I feel and love it for ease of use 👌

[@paulwyand6204]

I am trying to decide which one to try. Here in the states it is quite expensive at about $48 a jug. Would love to try a liter of each along with some Surfex.

[@djsiuk]

Great Vs video. BH are amazing products.

[@neilrwoods]

Was using Angelwax foam and shampoo for ages , decided to buy BH atuofaom and BH shampoo…. OMG so much better

[@DiiZeh_]

I think I’ll have to give Touch-Less a try when I want to buy a new pre-wash👍🏻

[@zaink7037]

Something I really wanted to know. Think I might buy a bottle of the touchless wash

[@lees8024]

I use autoglym resin, and hd wax. Will the touchless strip off the wax. I hope not because I just got 5 litres

[@DavidC1]

thanks

[@DavidC1]

Jon, if they pulled the plug on AutoFoam i would be up in arms and quit detailing all together. It is the cornerstone of my collection.

[@dimmacommunication]

True, my go to pre wash

[@jimpizzey2690]

Could you mix the two ???

[@sadieross-johnson2800]

I’ve found the touchless works better in a hard water area, but only a bit better.

[@steverabbits]

I think BH brought this new system out more to compliment Auto Foam than to replace it, for one thing they tell you not to use the Touch-Less/Touch On system more than once a month, so if you wash your car more often you really need both types. I see TL/TO as a system more than a pre-wash and wash, the two products work together as a unit, I personally wouldn't use TL on it's own, if I wanted something other then TO on the car after pre-washing giving me more choice then I'd use Auto Foam followed by whatever wash is my choice that day, maybe I'm deconning and want to use Garage Therapy Decon Shampoo for example. I'm coming up for the 2nd use of TL/TO on my dad's car so like you Jon I'm really interested to see if it really does build upon previous uses. I'll let you know on your Patreon channel! $1 a month, less than a British Squid, a total bargain guys! 👍👍😂😂

[@mikeprice8307]

Who is they tell you?

[@steverabbits]

@@mikeprice8307 Bilt Hamber

[@mikeprice8307]

@@steverabbits are you recommending autofoam for more frequent uses?

[@steverabbits]

@@mikeprice8307 yes that's my personal preference but also I don't like to use Touch-On on my car because it causes terrible ghosting on the windscreen! Jon has tested BH Auto Foam V BH Touch-Less and Touch-Less had slightly better cleaning power but it really is marginal. Personally I think it makes so little difference that most people can't tell the difference and when you combine that with the mistiness Touch-On leaves on your windscreen when you use your wipers I'd go for Auto Foam every time on my personal cars. If you want a quick and glossy impressive result for less work then the Touch-Less/Touch-On system does a good job. As long as they don't complain about the ghosting on the screen of course! 😂

[@whothefcukrmutd2008]

BiltHamber get this man a new whip for his/your products!!

[@David.M74]

John maybe using 50/50 in the Foam Cannon is the best solution! Greetings M from Belgium

[@DavidC1]

BILT HAMBER FACTORY TOUR????? WHEN???? BH FANS REJOICING AGAIN!

[@qwertyjeffers]

what if touchless gets on a fabric convertible roof unintentionally, would it stain if i do not wipe, thx

[@rudeboymd]

I think my opinion of touch-on has changed the more I use it. I was not impressed with the product at all to start with but I think it is most effective in a foam lance as a lazy mans way of waxing at the end of a wash. Hydrophobics and shine is insane. Just use it once a month on my car as can't be bothered to wax and saves on microfibre applicators/buffing towels.

[@Noone-lm9mk]

So what was the answer?

[@eddiel7033]

The way so many guys are copying other guys' tests lately, I'm really surprised no one has copied your dirt simulator tests. Those are really great. I'd like to see more shampoos and pre-foams go through it.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

its not so easy to get a working dirt simulator the copy channels will copy stuff thats easy to copy, they wont put the time in to formulate things. someone will copy this though eventually just like everything else we were first to do here. 99% of detailing content on you tube is not even real.

[@DavidC1]

Do you think BH Touchless is made for a user who has a dedicated cermanic already applied, and this product is optimal for not degrading it? Some enthusiests like me wash their car 2 times a week when i have the time and could this preserve my coating even longer.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

I think its just a new material Bilt Hamber discovered and played aorund with and got great results with. It does not work the same way as other surfactants, its not just a degreaser as such. when winter comes I will test more with it but from what I see its really effective. I notice a difference when Im pre washing my alloys as well.

[@petef7323]

I just bought 5ltrs of touchless It smells exactly like Clover Ubik 2000, a very powerful degreaser.

[@nickaf5262]

This will be good

[@rscholey85]

Tried touchless in a pump sprayer left horrendous marks on my paintwork, citrus pre wash is what I got instead no issues , still use the touch on

[@forensicunplugged4295]

ok so a pre wash cant mark your paint. its a rinseable detergent. Ive gone through 5 litres off the stuff and your comment does not make any sense. if this is a real comment Im wondering if the product went onto steam hot panels at high concentration and dried off. If you over concentrate products you really need a good pressure washer to blast off. one of the best things about BH though its the rinseability of the detergents. lower down that PIR use 1-2% for normal soiling.

[@joemurphy4489]

John, if Touchless is more free rinising, does that mean there is less chance of water spots than using Auto-Foam?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

not really. but its perhaps less masking or filming it will rinse off the car with less effort. really water spotting is more down to water drying in droplets on the car.

[@declanosbourne62]

Hi forensics details. How are you doing? Hope all is doing well. Can I use this prewash product in sunlight? I’m an mobile detailer here in the USA so I work in direct sunlight and so I need something like this to do my pre-wash so I don’t scratch the pain while washing.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

Yes. Just rinse off quickly. These products work fast and don't need long dwell times

[@declanosbourne62]

@@forensicunplugged4295 ok thank you.

[@andhen12]

In my country its really simple. Autofoam is half the price for some reason.

[@jonnybravo3055]

I'd like to see some kind of video with top 10 detailing mistakes or a top 10 tips. That would cut down your editing John 👍🏼. Or even your top 10 favourite cars of all time.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

good shout I will work on this.

[@brianmueller9277]

The area I'm confused about is which products to use on a coated car. Seems like using a topper and the touchless / touch on are somewhat redundant.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

prewash with touchless and autowash. add more bling with the ceramic spray tooper from your coating brand. if in doubt maintain the coating though with the products from the coating brand.

[@redsresearch]

aren't you from the uk where it doesn't get cold?

[@barrygwilliam5367]

This might be a daft comment, but could you do 2.5% of each product to make 5% overall? Would this be beneficial or pointless?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

never go off piste. you dont know whats in these products. You dont know the impact of mixing them. this is undeniable simple logic isnt it. To delve deeper, autofoam contains small amount of solvent, touch-less is solvent free, whats the impact of adding solvent to suger based surfactant? unknown? could be bad? random.. never mix chemicals unless you are the guy that formulates them and knows whats in them and if they are compatible. (its not a daft question though mate)

[@DavidC1]

thats why i use BH products is the cleaning power! strips off road film in seconds.

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

Strips off dirt well. But what's the long term effect of putting high alkaljne products on rubber door seals and plastics every wash?

[@DavidC1]

@@KiranPatel-fk1pg no damage. Jon has already investigated this issue! It’s highly diluted when applied in a snow lance. Bilt Hamber products are highly safe and gentle.

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

@@DavidC1 I thought Jon only tested it on paint?

[@hamaadrana6191]

How about giving a free dose of touch less with every 5 litre auto foam?

[@jackroberts3801]

I struggle with auto foam because in certain cases, it struggles with bugs. Am I the only one?

[@qwertyjeffers]

that's pretty embarrassing. these bugs are not even alive

[@raydavison2972]

What is going on at in2detailing? They have not had Auto Foam for months (Maybe 9 months) and they are also sold out of Touchless?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

thats not true. but they have been out of stock of lots of bilt hamber stuff and when it comes back into stock it goes out of stock rapidly. covid has caused lots of supply chain issues but Ive fed back to imran. He is loosing business if he does not have the stock people go to someone that does. I think he placed a gargantium order of BH stuff.

[@raydavison2972]

@@forensicunplugged4295 That's quite possible Jon, I might have better phrased it as 'Every time I have visited in2detailing in the last nine months they have been out of stock'. Of course I have not visited every day but I have done so many times. You're right also about losing business. I was introduced to in2detailing via your videos and have found them very good value and they became my first choice for detailing products but I have been forced to go elsewhere in the last year or so due to non availability and of course the more you find a store is out of stock the less you will bother to even visit

[@A7mag3ddon]

I just bought some auto foam and surfex hd amd they are both in thr new horrible jerry can style large bottles i don't like the handles at all.

[@richardpowell723]

👍

[@Brandon-no3vc]

Why is one ph 13 and the other ph 12 why not both ph 13

[@forensicunplugged4295]

different chemical blends different PH.

[@Brandon-no3vc]

@@forensicunplugged4295 do you ever have to use a high ph shampoo 4 the contact wash?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

@@Brandon-no3vc you cannot determine how a product behaves from its PH. For example you can make a paint stripper thats PH7.

[@Brandon-no3vc]

@@forensicunplugged4295 true eh and i guess the sugar or w.e is in it helps with salt. We just went thro winter salts and iv never done a true wash a contact wash on it yet but im sure auto foam should be fine right? Carzilla says to use adams strip wash shampoo for my first contact wash says ita a higher ph at 9 or sumn?

[@christaplin2557]

Little did you know spring never happened 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@SilverTrill]

Been looking to get this but imran at in2detailing hasn't stocked up on this a a few other stuff I wanted for months and isn't replying to emails to 😒

[@forensicunplugged4295]

hes on the case, covid just generally caused problems and shortages and its hard to meet demand at the moment. he has an email notification thing setup as well so you get notified when things get restocked, and hes just taken someone on full time to help with the workload. so hopefully stock levels can become more robust ;)

[@SilverTrill]

@@forensicunplugged4295 yeah good call Jon I have set notification and added to wishlist now just need to sell my extra 5L of autofoam 😅 by the way keep an eye on amazon they had 500ml of mrpink reduced to £2.21 I added 4 to my basket and had a phone call and forgot about it 1 hour later it was out of stock 😡 they should get more in only a few days ago it was reduced to £4 so might be able to get another bargain even tho it not that good , I use this to make my snowfoam slightly thicker by adding 10-20ml just so autofoam cling long in windy or sunny conditions