Biniam Girmay FURIOUS with Jasper Philipsen after this Move | Tour de France 2023 Stage 7

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10 ай бұрын

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@hebhonger
@hebhonger 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, they need to rethink sprinting rules or at least enforce the ones already existing. Of the 3 wins, there were 2 where the guy arguably cut of other riders, and 1 where his lead-out was relegated. This is getting dangerous.
@CycoWarriorx
@CycoWarriorx 10 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%!
@dankrogholm9774
@dankrogholm9774 10 ай бұрын
Jaspersen shoulda been DNFd on top of this, two extreamly dangerous sprints. No spine from organisers.
@gregmuon
@gregmuon 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, a rule is a rule, but they aren't enforcing it at all. At this point Philipsen knows he can get away with it every time. It wasn't even remotely subtle this time. He went all the way across the road diagonally until he had Bini against the barrier. He's going to keep using it till someone gets sent to the hospital.
@frank6250
@frank6250 10 ай бұрын
@@gregmuon stop whining
@sudsehun76
@sudsehun76 10 ай бұрын
@@dankrogholm9774 this is how they have been sprinting since the begin of the time. ur escape goating an individual rather than attacking the industry that is promoting these behaviours. contrary to popular belief, philipsen isn't getting penalised, not cos uci doesn't have balls or uci favours alpecin or philipsen. it's cos, if they act on philipsen, that would mean they would have to apply the same rules for every one else and take action. that would create disruption in every single race, meaning every race u might have the race winner relegated, that looks bad for publicity. dirty riding is what alaphilipe and evenepoel does, reckless/endangering riders is what groenewegen did. philipsen's just hovering that limit but hasn't crossed it yet.
@stefanrogers2436
@stefanrogers2436 10 ай бұрын
It's almost exactly what he did to Wout in Stage 3 -- he starts his sprint in the middle of the road and just goes diagonally to slam the door on Girmay. I don't know why they let him do that.
@sudsehun76
@sudsehun76 10 ай бұрын
cos everyone does it.
@TheIndianaGeoff
@TheIndianaGeoff 10 ай бұрын
​@@sudsehun76yup. And cav in his prime did it too. Never got called on it. Heck he came up outside Sagan, who was way ahead, bumped him, Sagan reacted and got DQd.
@chriswitek9455
@chriswitek9455 10 ай бұрын
​@@sudsehun76which would be fine if there wasn't a rule against it AND the uci weren't "trying to keep riders safe" It's the inconsistency that irks everyone. Early 2000s? Shut a door fair game. Now they're worried about crashing and injuries so they say. But they don't do anything unless its irrelevant or someone gets hurt. Jasper will get relegated for pushing someone to the boards when it's too late and they crash and a bunch of riders get hurt. So much for being preventive.
@darlansilvaramos5634
@darlansilvaramos5634 10 ай бұрын
he looks for bini and keeps moving to the right......thats proposital.
@sudsehun76
@sudsehun76 10 ай бұрын
@@chriswitek9455 what jasper is doing isn't extreme compared to what others have been doiing. that's my point. jasper and caleb are lightweights compared to other sprinters and they usually are the victim of the system. ppl are talking like jasper can overpower other sprinters who are substantially heavier built than he is.
@ChrisWagner-bh3vn
@ChrisWagner-bh3vn 10 ай бұрын
JP will keep using the whole road as his sprint line because the judges keep allowing it. they really are worthless.
@garfieldferdinand242
@garfieldferdinand242 10 ай бұрын
Someone need to knock his tire and he will know not to do it
@carbonking53
@carbonking53 10 ай бұрын
If the relagate JP Cav gets the win. I dont think they want Cav to break the record so they look the other way again on an obvious deviation.
@peterneumann7145
@peterneumann7145 10 ай бұрын
@@carbonking53don’t think Cav wants to win that way but jasper the disaster is very apt
@HH-xw4hr
@HH-xw4hr 10 ай бұрын
I have said that Jasper and the rest of alpecin should get dq after all the crap they are doing. I am sacred for the health of other riders. Ofcourse there will be dangerous situations in a race but Jasper and co is on another level
@RabidMortal1
@RabidMortal1 10 ай бұрын
The only conclusion I can make is that the judges are okay with more crashes because crashes generate publicly
@echomike8591
@echomike8591 10 ай бұрын
Jasper pushed Pedersen to the left barriers and Girmay to the right barriers all in a matter of 3-5 seconds, very dangerous.
@rafaelceciliano6206
@rafaelceciliano6206 10 ай бұрын
Exatamente. O Fabio Jakobsen que o diga 😢
@MrJeppe313
@MrJeppe313 10 ай бұрын
He’s riding so recklessly without any regard for safety, and he will keep getting away with it as long as he wins and no one crashes
@martialpigneret20
@martialpigneret20 10 ай бұрын
Yes i agree you how can he won in this conditions??? He must have been disqualified. Philispen as we can see in this video is a cheating guy nothing more nothing less. Poor Tour de France if that guy can won like this... If he need this to win it's because he can't win by his own legally?
@rokker333
@rokker333 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. It shows that it didn’t happen in the heat of one sprint but that he is doing it on purpose. Only a matter of time something really bad happens.
@jordana4511
@jordana4511 10 ай бұрын
I 100% agreed . Jasper should been disqualified . He almost crushed Biniam also history was denied for Mark,C. Maybe Mark or Biniam could have been first place if Jasper hasn't cheated.
@jossytm6814
@jossytm6814 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Philipsen is getting away with blocking Bini is beyond comprehension
@Tonebaited123
@Tonebaited123 10 ай бұрын
He had a block earlier too. Are the refs being paid off or something? That’s an easy penalty
@richiegill5489
@richiegill5489 10 ай бұрын
Jasper was in front of Bini so it was his wheel. It’s the same in all races
@richiegill5489
@richiegill5489 10 ай бұрын
Jasper was in front of Bini so it was his wheel. It’s the same in all races 8:04
@aprgbnf4609
@aprgbnf4609 10 ай бұрын
Officials just don't care about rider safety until someone ends up in a coma
@loveelroi4453
@loveelroi4453 10 ай бұрын
If not racism what could it be cus this is blatantly mate … naaa If UCI can not see what we see it’s def racism sneaking in mate ..
@plyyco
@plyyco 10 ай бұрын
JP is going to seriously crash someone before the end of the tour because no one's penalising him for these moves. It's really worrying. It's also crazy to me that he doesn't get called out for it on the TV coverage.
@rossage5
@rossage5 10 ай бұрын
He already crashed Jakobson
@dreten000
@dreten000 10 ай бұрын
@@rossage5 no, jakobsen touched his backwheel. jakobsen his own fault.
@T_Mo271
@T_Mo271 10 ай бұрын
Total silence from the commentators about it. Really annoying, as it was purely obvious.
@loveelroi4453
@loveelroi4453 10 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you .. I don’t call him fast sprinter like others say cus pushing ppl around to get your way , may be cav and bini were kind of threat for him yesterday .. maybe regardless he should regulated .
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 10 ай бұрын
​@@dreten000it wasn t Philipsen actually
@rajiv2612
@rajiv2612 10 ай бұрын
Philipsen's 3 wins: First one - deviates and pushes WVA into the barriers forcing him to pull off. Second one - MVDP relegated for shoving Bini and launching JP Third one - shoving Bini to get on Cavs wheel.
@BERARITCHANNEL
@BERARITCHANNEL 10 ай бұрын
paris roubex john degenklob
@RoaldvandenBerghen
@RoaldvandenBerghen 10 ай бұрын
That's called sprinting.... everybody should stop crying
@MJarthur95
@MJarthur95 10 ай бұрын
@@RoaldvandenBerghenoh someone forgot a crash that got someone into hospital I guess 🤔
@esrepu
@esrepu 10 ай бұрын
It's a shame. If he is not stoped soon, someone will end up in a hospital
@rajiv2612
@rajiv2612 10 ай бұрын
@@RoaldvandenBerghen sprinting can be done safely. JP's moves have been unsafe that's the point.
@ConnorFrench
@ConnorFrench 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely devastated for Cav… was screaming at the TV
@healthcarethoughtleadership
@healthcarethoughtleadership 10 ай бұрын
Screaming LAHell
@wyverncoch4430
@wyverncoch4430 10 ай бұрын
So was I, "Go, Go,Go" .they cross the line. "Oh Damn". but Cav looked great coming out of nowhere
@slayer6936
@slayer6936 10 ай бұрын
Yep he should not have one win..well maybe just one!! The UCI is going to get someone hurt by not stopping them from doing this!
@DannyWhittingham-yk9oq
@DannyWhittingham-yk9oq 10 ай бұрын
He had a mechanical, you could see it stall
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
​@@DannyWhittingham-yk9oqYeah he even looked down at his bike at that exact moment too
@samsonfissehaye7807
@samsonfissehaye7807 10 ай бұрын
Jasper has clearly blocked Bini???? This is very unfair.
@autothrust330
@autothrust330 10 ай бұрын
Another dirty win. Others may argue, it’s competition, a win is a win. But, respect and sportsmanship is earned. This move is the exact opposite.
@callesgdk
@callesgdk 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad you brought this up. I was watching and my first thought was that Philipsen would get relegated but he wasn't and I don't understand why the TV commentators didn't even mention it because it was so obvious!
@BozalliCopter
@BozalliCopter 10 ай бұрын
Mechanical issue for Cav, he confirmed it in an interview. The gears were jumping, he had to sit down and then get up again, then they jumped again. Maybe he would have won, maybe he wouldn't...
@epincion
@epincion 10 ай бұрын
ITV had Marcel Kittel commentating and in his opinion Cav would likely have won if he had not had that mechanical.
@santiagobenites
@santiagobenites 10 ай бұрын
I think that he would have won. You could see him looking down at his drivetrain, and then he quickly lost his momentum.
@SWISSPOWERJET
@SWISSPOWERJET 10 ай бұрын
@@epincion I THINK HE WAS SO FAST BECAUSE OF THE CANCELLARA CHANGE :-))
@Veloasia
@Veloasia 10 ай бұрын
Of course he said he had a mechanical
@chrisfletch
@chrisfletch 10 ай бұрын
​@@Veloasiamaybe it's because it was true.
@inspktr51
@inspktr51 10 ай бұрын
He should be penalized. That was a clear nasty cut off. Clearly B.G. Had more legs than Phillipsen and Kav. You can see Benyam going very hard but had to stop to avoid a crash. When I saw that I was very upset 😠 😡
@michealissa1638
@michealissa1638 10 ай бұрын
yeah true, it's not just bini going very hard, but it's phillipsen going out if his line, and nearly causing a crash of another rider, the only difference with this incident and the one where Sagan got DSQ from the TDF was that Sagan caused an actual crash, but this move didn't. this should be a DSQ for phillipsen 100%.
@worldcitizen9202
@worldcitizen9202 10 ай бұрын
Bini lost cav's wheel. Jasper just slotted in.
@yunghoene8753
@yunghoene8753 10 ай бұрын
@@worldcitizen9202 bini has to go right to avoid crashing. if he stays behind cav, jasper crashes into him.
@sergimarch8874
@sergimarch8874 10 ай бұрын
Jasper did the same previously on the intermediate sprint. Was even clearer. A white stripe in the middle of the road he were and finished the sprint on the other side. Jasper is a very good sprinter but i'm not sure if he would have won three stages just sprinting on a stright line
@worldcitizen9202
@worldcitizen9202 10 ай бұрын
@@yunghoene8753 no bottle no winning
@helenatv4660
@helenatv4660 10 ай бұрын
Biniam was the winner today. Very upsetting. Proud to see our country at this stage. Eritrea🇪🇷
@rory4016
@rory4016 10 ай бұрын
insane that he has got away with it twice, both times were so clear too. surprised rival teams haven't kicked up more of a fuss
@hagostewolden.
@hagostewolden. 10 ай бұрын
Very proud of BINI !!! He came all this way with limited facility.
@markus717
@markus717 10 ай бұрын
6:25 Cavendish hit a bump that he didn't expect. Great point. On other replays I didn't even notice that. That's why expert commentary is so useful. Merci.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 10 ай бұрын
watch well, Biniam hit the bump also
@filda2005
@filda2005 10 ай бұрын
can we get a 1k where is no sleeping police man, curve, narrowed passage?
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 10 ай бұрын
sad news, Cav is out with a collar bone issue
@rokker333
@rokker333 10 ай бұрын
Guys, your covering of the Tour is absolute Pro level. Enjoy it every evening. Even though I try to watch as much as possible live :)
@koala10ish
@koala10ish 10 ай бұрын
By purposely blocking Biniam against the wall, Philipsen is clearly admitting that Biniam is much better than him! He should be disqualified!!!
@catosal0659
@catosal0659 10 ай бұрын
so wise
@koala10ish
@koala10ish 10 ай бұрын
@@catosal0659 Philipsen is a coward rat
@Rune__
@Rune__ 10 ай бұрын
I don’t see how the jury relegates Skjeldmose on stage 2 and doesn’t apply their own hard line against Plillipsen on this stage. I am not saying i think Phillipsen should be relegated today. I think the jury said it themselves by relagating Skjeldmose on stage 2. I think what Phillipsen did today was more severe an offence than what Skjeldmose did on stage 2…. Very weird.
@michealissa1638
@michealissa1638 10 ай бұрын
but he should be relegated, as he nearly caused the crash of another rider, and he went off of his line clearly, and from the left to the right.
@TeacherNickoy
@TeacherNickoy 10 ай бұрын
@@michealissa1638they wont relegate him, they have mvdp pulling the sprinters 1.7km
@cincydooley
@cincydooley 10 ай бұрын
@@michealissa1638 lol. No he didn’t.
@dkeener13
@dkeener13 10 ай бұрын
Jasper closes off one guy on the far left side of the road, then jerks all the way across to close off Bini on the far right side. Other sprinters have to choose whether to back off or risk getting Fabio'd. This is dangerous. Alpecin going to get worse with this nonsense the longer they go with no real repercussions. Cav went early but he kind of had no choice. Looked fast. With no lead out he has to get lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
@keongtham
@keongtham 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree there should be yellow card issued for dangerous riding or some warning.
@Parrysweets
@Parrysweets 10 ай бұрын
Theres sprinting elbow to elbow shoulder to shoulder, theres blocking when your back wheel has space and theres chopping across the front wheel. That was a clear devation in the final sprint.
@Jasperinvests
@Jasperinvests 10 ай бұрын
Cav's gearing drops from the 11 into the 12 twice. The first time on that bump and the second just as he passes Philepsen. Gutted for him!
@charlesmansplaining
@charlesmansplaining 10 ай бұрын
They need to get rid of the 12 speed garbage and go back to an eleven speed drivetrain. I've seen this 12 speed stuff fail on so many occasions and you just can't have that at pro level.
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
​​@@charlesmansplainingho even needs 12 speeds lmao. 10 speeds seems plenty to me. Edit: my other bike is 11 and works fine as well of course.
@charlesmansplaining
@charlesmansplaining 10 ай бұрын
@@Beau_Rivage I sure am glad I'm not forced to ride 12 speed. I ride 11 speed DA Di2 and it is great but I'm building a Centaur 10 speed bike with a groups I have never used, still new. And the bike will have rim brakes. I have grown tired of charging batteries too.
@geothunder1971
@geothunder1971 10 ай бұрын
They all need single speeds! now that's fair!
@HH-xw4hr
@HH-xw4hr 10 ай бұрын
I have written a mail to UCI, stating my concern for how sprinting is evolving on the biggest stage in the world. I hope as many as possible will do the same so we the fans can make a change for the safety of the riders. Maybe they wont listen to the teams but they will have to listen to the fans, the foundation of cycling, if enough do the same!
@T_Mo271
@T_Mo271 10 ай бұрын
They don't have to listen to the fans at all. Their only debt is to their sponsors.
@Coootzeee
@Coootzeee 10 ай бұрын
Great coverage of the tour again this year gents. Class from you.
@yonatanw2283
@yonatanw2283 10 ай бұрын
If this kind of action is not corrected by UCI. We will see more dangerous action.
@ValtintimeGaming
@ValtintimeGaming 10 ай бұрын
They want danger It’s obvious they play poker with the rider’s life
@109sssss
@109sssss 10 ай бұрын
UCI is a joke
@AlbertBuckinghamEllison
@AlbertBuckinghamEllison 10 ай бұрын
Damn, good footage, Cav came from miles back and got hindered but kept punching. I think everyone's rooting for him to get the record before retiring and I'm all for it!!
@charleschester3299
@charleschester3299 10 ай бұрын
I nearly broke my Tv watching the end of that stage. It feels so cheap to spend 5 hours of your morning/day watching these races just to see a finish like this happen over and over again.
@samipawlos7525
@samipawlos7525 10 ай бұрын
Tomorrow's stage is for bini mark my word!!
@malikmcclain7869
@malikmcclain7869 10 ай бұрын
Very Proud of Biniam for the Efforts!! A 3rd place finish, in spite of some questionable sprint tactics, where TDF directors seem to go with a "wait your turn", your time will come approach. I'm also checking for White Jersey points in the Best young rider category,at 23 years old,Pogacar has a lock on it. Keep being fundamentally sound, take advantage of the great lead outs,always protect yourself,your podium awaits !! Biniam,You have Arrived in the Tour de France 🎉🎉🎉🏆🎉❤
@oscarmarseille4220
@oscarmarseille4220 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Philipsen is getting away with everything is just crazy. First the situation with Van Aert now with Bini.
@richardmccaughey5928
@richardmccaughey5928 9 ай бұрын
Phillipsen will move as far to the right as possible to prevent a rider coming up on that side. He blocked Girmay, the same with Van Aert the other day. One could also claim he did the same on the left to Mads. Reminds me of Abdujaperov (sp), aka " Always crashes a lot" back in the '90's. Happy to see Mads get him today!
@woutn.967
@woutn.967 9 ай бұрын
Look up Paris Roubaix 2023 Degenkolb crash, Phillipsen deviating to the right with MVDP in his wheel
@darmaggi
@darmaggi 9 ай бұрын
@@richardmccaughey5928 Jasper almost looked downright angry that he only got to climb the podium for a green jersey....apparently dirty wins make him the happiest. I guess they don't call him Jasper the disaster for nothing, but apparently the commissaires aren't aware of that, or are too eager to give him the benefit of the doubt, and want to create "green jersey" heroes.
@user-cz3dd5wz1m
@user-cz3dd5wz1m 9 ай бұрын
1000% racism in this case.
@binkah3670
@binkah3670 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations 3 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤ Biniam Girmay you always made history you’re lion 🐅you’re very strong 💪 we’re proud of you forever 👏👏👏👏🤴🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
@cincydooley
@cincydooley 10 ай бұрын
How’re those Eritrean war crimes coming along?
@eritreanvibes9176
@eritreanvibes9176 10 ай бұрын
He boxed Pederson to the wheel of MVDP and boxed Bini to the wall if this is not a dangerous play then this is not different from the VAR checks that apply for Manchester United games, but the big problem for Bini is his team is not ready for a good lead out
@niclaswenzel8689
@niclaswenzel8689 10 ай бұрын
Sadly the only way the driving style of him could change or have consequences by now, is if other drivers went into suicide mode, too. Then there would have either been a crash or Philipsen wouldn´t have been able to get onto the wheel of Cav, as Girmay was already there.
@joshuahoover
@joshuahoover 10 ай бұрын
Jasper living up to his nickname once again
@garyjames-ij4fr
@garyjames-ij4fr 10 ай бұрын
What is his nickname?
@joshuahoover
@joshuahoover 10 ай бұрын
@@garyjames-ij4fr Jasper Disaster, according to the Netflix series 😀
@mollieabrham173
@mollieabrham173 10 ай бұрын
@@garyjames-ij4fr Cheater !! His nickname is Cheater. If it’s a fair game and world, Jasper has won just 1 stage not 3 so far. Because it’s really stupid what he did in these two stages; how can someone do like that in that time and in that place to another rider!?!!
@barbaroacosta5335
@barbaroacosta5335 10 ай бұрын
Lol Jasper disaster is just a foreshadowing of what's to come whenever the other rider doesn't yield to him.
@TheSimong69
@TheSimong69 10 ай бұрын
thanks for a great vlog
@tybronder172
@tybronder172 10 ай бұрын
It’s so stupid. I have a teammate that did the same thing to me but I didn’t yield cause it was my line and I was gaining on him and had never encountered someone who would just shove you out of the way. Created a crash and our friendship was ruined.
@hallothar382
@hallothar382 10 ай бұрын
who asked
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
​@@hallothar382who asked you to comment
@lloydyno1
@lloydyno1 10 ай бұрын
He even deviates on the intermediate sprint, starts on white line in middle of the road and drifts right (1:30 mins)
@garrywallah4966
@garrywallah4966 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't Disqualify MVDP for Jasper Philipsen's sprint deviation
@cber5077
@cber5077 10 ай бұрын
Great commentary mate!
@robertchandler587
@robertchandler587 10 ай бұрын
I love LR‘s lil speech bubbles of what the riders are thinking 😂😂
@lindsaynewell6319
@lindsaynewell6319 10 ай бұрын
The DVB cameo is an example of what separates LR from lamestream coverage for viewers who really want “inside the peloton” insight.
@duckonmyquack
@duckonmyquack 10 ай бұрын
I've noticed Biniam more than I would any other rider (possibly because of the high vis jersey) but seems like he's getting pushed around every sprint. Took a shoulder at around 900 meters on this one too. Dude could use some better luck.
@schmuwabu
@schmuwabu 10 ай бұрын
Yes I feel bad for him, but tomorrow he is one of the favourites, because the road is up to 5% steep right before the finish
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
You also need to be a bit rough in these situations. If you yield to everybody and avoid any contact then you'll likely never have a chance at winning.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 10 ай бұрын
I've often repeated about Biniam's fault of being soft and NOT placing himself properly
@markdwelchforcongress4456
@markdwelchforcongress4456 10 ай бұрын
Bini needs a sprinting coach to show him how to use his elbows and shoulders - maybe Robbie McEwan could spend a few days with him.
@cincydooley
@cincydooley 10 ай бұрын
Dude could be less soft.
@samsonmesfun9243
@samsonmesfun9243 10 ай бұрын
We are very proud Bini 🎉
@Leviwant11
@Leviwant11 10 ай бұрын
Nice video thanks
@skylerschwendeman
@skylerschwendeman 10 ай бұрын
Gutted about Cav. Seems like he had a real mechanical there. His form is strong though!
@willemdenhartog6587
@willemdenhartog6587 10 ай бұрын
Exactly he Will get that #35
@brianwright9514
@brianwright9514 10 ай бұрын
Even with the mechanical, he'd have the win if the officials relegated Phillipsen
@RAD6150
@RAD6150 10 ай бұрын
MVDP elbows him out the other day, Philipsen runs across him... Is Alpecin just untouchable?
@jenshelgesen4762
@jenshelgesen4762 10 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work lantern!!
@KurtVandeweerdt
@KurtVandeweerdt 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insightful talk-through! Also, 7:49 best pronunciation of Jonas "Whungegot"
@Acyclingfan
@Acyclingfan 10 ай бұрын
The UCI is so inconsistent. And when they make a call it's usually a bad one. I saw it while watching live and replayed it several times.
@YESCENE
@YESCENE 10 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for BG, this was one of his best chances of getting a stage win and making history. He clearly had the legs for it at the end. Looks like JP is going to keep doing whatever the hell he wants smh.
@cincydooley
@cincydooley 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like he just needs to be better.
@tboyautism5759
@tboyautism5759 10 ай бұрын
@@cincydooleydont u have something better to do than troll in the comments and respond to everyone being supportive of Bini? normal people dont do that, please stop projecting your self hatred onto others.
@cincydooley
@cincydooley 10 ай бұрын
@@tboyautism5759 I currently do not. I just made dinner and I’m watching wrap ups on todays racing. I had no idea there were so many people trying to make excuses for soft ass Girmay.
@kylesmoran
@kylesmoran 10 ай бұрын
​@@cincydooleywhat were you watching he got blocked then was still even basically at the line. Maybe everyone should have to follow the rules you racist bigot
@tboyautism5759
@tboyautism5759 10 ай бұрын
@@cincydooley Bini isnt soft, he's just not an idiot. Jasper has been doing this almost every stage, and people with brains have not tried to fight him because they know they will crash, potentially putting their careers as a whole at risk. You could be calling any of the riders who have backed off from the sprints because of his erratic behavior "soft" but youre choosing instead to have a meltdown over anyone who criticizes jasper, trying to blame it on anyone other than him. If Bini had tried harder, he probably would have been pushed into the barrier and crashed. That's not worth it. Take your masculinity issues somewhere else. Bini is strong as hell for making third, full stop.
@octaviakf
@octaviakf 9 ай бұрын
This was an excellent review
@littlewara
@littlewara 10 ай бұрын
The Dylan van Baarle incident is funny 😁 Good spotting!
@Omok33
@Omok33 10 ай бұрын
I’m convinced with this breakdown that Jasper should have been relegated. He’s all over the place and that’s a danger to the rest.
@barneyklingenberg4078
@barneyklingenberg4078 10 ай бұрын
The stage with Wout as well.
@zteveh
@zteveh 10 ай бұрын
The French can't let Cav take Eddie's crown.
@gretyza
@gretyza 10 ай бұрын
​@@ztevehEddie is belgian ??
@bundybir2684
@bundybir2684 10 ай бұрын
2nd time now. And again.. no penalty. TdF becomming a joke.
@RoaldvandenBerghen
@RoaldvandenBerghen 10 ай бұрын
Poeple becoming a joke for crying all the time. This is sprinting, if you dont like it, dont watch.....
@alexmichl3137
@alexmichl3137 10 ай бұрын
​@@RoaldvandenBerghenSo sprinting is about cutting people of and pushing them into barriers? I thought its about who is more explosive rider....
@Strategic_wins
@Strategic_wins 10 ай бұрын
@@RoaldvandenBerghen Its called passion and thats part of cycling and also even top riders say he should be penalized for that, if you knew cycling then you would of know this too
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 10 ай бұрын
@@Strategic_wins Jasper, is that you? You were in the wrong today man, no excuses.😆
@samuelabraha2915
@samuelabraha2915 10 ай бұрын
@RoaldvandenBerghen this is not American football pal, you are in the wrong side of sport
@jonatanwigerup2450
@jonatanwigerup2450 10 ай бұрын
For everyone thinking that he blocked by purpose. He wants the wheel of Mark, that is why he deviates. I think the officials look at this and say that JP officially starts his sprint after he is behind Cavs wheel and therefore shouldn't be relegated. Also ge is ahead of BG when he takes the wheel of Cav. This is a tough one for me, I haven't read the tule book when the "deviating rule" starts. Bc at the same time you are allowed to take the wheel in front of you
@alexanderevangelista5349
@alexanderevangelista5349 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree, most of this basher's are fan of WVA all cry babies
@simoncarter2773
@simoncarter2773 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you !
@RabidMortal1
@RabidMortal1 10 ай бұрын
Do the judges secretly WANT more crashes?? Tolerating moves like Jasper's will only encourage more rides to do the same.
@truthalwaysprevails6669
@truthalwaysprevails6669 9 ай бұрын
You’re right...I think they enjoy when the see crashing cyclists
@reymarm.3
@reymarm.3 10 ай бұрын
lowkey cheering for Cavendish 35th stage win! Hope he will get it this year!
@geuros
@geuros 10 ай бұрын
In previous sprints Cav had problems even getting to "sprintable" position, now he got it and voila - yes he had the speed! I believe he'll get it
@kylesmoran
@kylesmoran 10 ай бұрын
Bininwoulda beat him ez
@paulmcc2006
@paulmcc2006 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis as alwazys!
@marumaranatha
@marumaranatha 10 ай бұрын
UCI should do more to ensure that athletes are able should not get injured or hurt. This’s humiliation. We’re proud of you BINi king 🤴 😢😢😢😢 In the context of an event like the Tour de France, where athletes compete at the highest level of cycling, it is essential to prioritize fairness and respect for fellow competitors. In situations where one person intentionally blocks another person, it goes against the principles of fair play and sportsmanship. To address such situations, I would suggest the following: 1. Clear Communication: It is essential for event organizers to establish clear guidelines and rules regarding blocking behavior. Athletes should be made aware of the consequences and potential penalties for intentionally obstructing or impeding their competitors. 2. Fostering Sportsmanship: Emphasize the importance of fair play, respect, and sportsmanship through ongoing education and training programs. Encourage athletes to compete with integrity and prioritize the spirit of healthy competition. 3. Strong Referee Presence: Ensure that there are sufficient referees and officials throughout the race, actively monitoring and penalizing unsportsmanlike conduct. Referees should have the authority to intervene promptly and impartially when blocking or obstruction occurs, guaranteeing a fair and level playing field for all competitors. 4. Post-Race Review: Establish a post-race review process to thoroughly assess any incidents of intentional blocking. Use video footage and testimonies from involved parties to determine the severity and intent of the action. Penalties or appropriate disciplinary actions should be implemented if necessary. 5. Encourage Respectful Competition: Promote a culture of respect and fair competition among participants, coaches, and spectators. Create platforms for athletes to share their experiences, stories, and values about sportsmanship, highlighting positive role models and their examples. By implementing these suggestions, it is possible to maintain the integrity of competitive events like the Tour de France, fostering a respectful environment where athletes can demonstrate their abilities while upholding the core values of sportsmanship.
@EverythingIsPhotogenic
@EverythingIsPhotogenic 10 ай бұрын
I don't think Cav necessarily wants to break the record on a relegation, but it needs to happen. They may still do it, they did it in the Women's tour last year for a similarly egregious deviation.
@Veloasia
@Veloasia 10 ай бұрын
How many of Cav's wins were similar?
@stafgruglnioe5122
@stafgruglnioe5122 10 ай бұрын
​@@Veloasiawhat does this have to do with the OP comment?
@DanielHarveyDyer
@DanielHarveyDyer 10 ай бұрын
Nobody wants to break a record because the guy who crossed the line ahead gets relegated, but on the other hand nobody wants to come second to a serial cheater who should already have been punished, and then not break the record at all.
@themadman5763
@themadman5763 10 ай бұрын
Biniam Ghirmay is great sprinter
@sanslaq
@sanslaq 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely infuriating to watch, and such a shame for Biniam and Cav. I hope something gets done before anything happens to the riders.
@samuelgebredngl3834
@samuelgebredngl3834 10 ай бұрын
J. Philipsen put Bini in box intentionally. This is unprofessional. He is afraid for not beating by Bini. I hope the sport committee will come up with some penalties against him.
@therationalist234
@therationalist234 10 ай бұрын
The sprint before was different going into that right bend, but the one in Stage 7 looked sketchy AF! I was shocked that was clean
@MaxRothFitness
@MaxRothFitness 10 ай бұрын
Sick video
@berekettesfai9675
@berekettesfai9675 10 ай бұрын
Congrats bini
@okantichrist
@okantichrist 10 ай бұрын
I know gears can jump sometimes down say from 12 to 11.But gears jumping up as Cav said happened from 11 to 12??? Is that electronic gearing thing?
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
Well there was a pretty big bump he went over. I'm sure that was the root cause.
@RiseNShine681
@RiseNShine681 10 ай бұрын
What is the point of having the deviation rule if they are never going to enforce it??
@HH-xw4hr
@HH-xw4hr 10 ай бұрын
They enforce it on Skjelmose and bettiol in a not dangerous situation. But Jasper they turn a blind eye. I think they should dq the uci enforcers. I will only be watching mountain stages because of this ludacris
@naxiertrawit3404
@naxiertrawit3404 10 ай бұрын
Bin we glad you are safe you are hero
@dorothyjohnstone9618
@dorothyjohnstone9618 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if Jasper could win a sprint without deviating. Seems to be his tactic: ride any serious competition into the barriers. Should have been relegated IMHO.
@danielmacdonald721
@danielmacdonald721 10 ай бұрын
He hasn’t deviated moron all the ex pros including Robbie mcewan have said his moves are fine. Sprinting is always chaotic and messy, you need to have balls and be aggressive when sprinting or you won’t win. If your doubting his ability I suggest you research his career e.g scheldeprijs 2023, champs elysees 2022 Tour de France, Tirreno adriatico 2023, Baloise Belgium tour 2023 stage 1
@dorothyjohnstone9618
@dorothyjohnstone9618 10 ай бұрын
@@danielmacdonald721 I hit a nerve! Lol. As I said, in my opinion.
@sudsehun76
@sudsehun76 10 ай бұрын
how many philipsen races have watched prior to this tdf? name me just one race where he does what u say he does.
@GamerFlair
@GamerFlair 10 ай бұрын
He would win sprints. He wouldn't be as consistant. Today for example he would have had to go fully in the wind, as Cav went early and Beni had his wheel. Maybe he still makes it, maybe he just loses out due to not having great positioning going in. How many times in the past have we seen the best sprinter in the world, or the best sprinter in a race, not win the sprint because of less then optimal positioning or just because they just got dealt a bad hand that day. The fuckery they are doing is basically eliminating all those random factors in a way that isn't fair. But at the end of the day, if they aren't going to enforce the rules, this is going to happen and I don't even blame them because they are top level sportsman and they are there to win. If the rules aren't being enforced, it essentially makes what they are doing totally legal and fine. Its super effective, so why not do it. Of course, if the ruling body doesn't do something, it will get out of hand. F1 had a similar situation in 2021 where they didn't enforce rules early on because they didn't want to intervere with results. It got way out of control, esaclated to the point that both parties were just being totally unreasonable and crashes started happening.
@barbaroacosta5335
@barbaroacosta5335 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see a broken necks and facial reconstruction caused by jasper phillipsen.
@eritreanafrican7765
@eritreanafrican7765 10 ай бұрын
#BiniamG🇪🇷 had showed the cycling community that he is a real sprinter.
@cincydooley
@cincydooley 10 ай бұрын
Lololol. Because of all his sprint wins, right? FOH.
@merhawiberhe4476
@merhawiberhe4476 10 ай бұрын
Am proud of Beni Beni
@ellislamb5899
@ellislamb5899 10 ай бұрын
DQ, the guy is smart and is firmly aware that he is cutting off another rider to gain advantage in the closing end of a stage winning sprint
@NathanGuerraTV
@NathanGuerraTV 10 ай бұрын
JP found himself in a losing situation, the team dropped him off and he had no where to go. Alp & JP made decisions up to that point to be in that position, with the resources they had to work, and it was about to go sour...as did Bing/Cav with an advantage. JP would not have had Cav's wheel without causing other riders(rider) to deviate from spaces in a sprint that were rightfully their spaces by the rules. Agreed, 100% a relegation, there just is no argument otherwise. JP is really good, and has a strong headed youth for wins. I appreciate that quality...but it's been riding a line of overstepping boundaries in what is fair to win. In this situation totally unacceptable needing penalty. Luckily for everyone Bing seems like he isn't willing to risk damage to himself and others to fight back for that space, from what I have seen he has a spatial/situational fairness barometer that may be holding him back a bit against the no holds bar types in the peloton who are just more willing to risk those split second throw yourself in there moments that just trust someone is gonna move or the heck with consequences.
@MarvinWestmaas
@MarvinWestmaas 10 ай бұрын
Philipsen and controversy... you don't say 😂😂😂😂
@mnonodzilala8508
@mnonodzilala8508 10 ай бұрын
Jasper disaster strikes again
@Finas7
@Finas7 10 ай бұрын
😢😢😢
@nashibrhane8399
@nashibrhane8399 10 ай бұрын
🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷king bini🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
@darmaggi
@darmaggi 9 ай бұрын
It's pretty messed up that Jasper wasn't relegated on this stage or on his first win when he did the same thing to Wout, when he majorly deviated from the center of the road while taking advantage of his lead out, but then of course you see him glance over at Wout and crosses over a good 15 feet to push him within inches of the barrier, so Wout has to back off or end up like Fabio at the Tour of Poland in the first stage. You can split hairs about when the official "sprinting" starts as to when to apply a judgement on deviating one's line, but if he's pulled out from behind his lead out then it's safe to say his sprinting has started, and that was also when he moved over 15 feet to use barriers against his competitor. This kicker is when he lost the sprint to Pederson the other day, and only got to make an appearance on the podium for his green jersey, he couldn't muster that smile he flashes when he wins dirty....lousy sportsmanship and behavior.
@kevinmac4real
@kevinmac4real 10 ай бұрын
Biniam was absolutely screwed
@sudsehun76
@sudsehun76 10 ай бұрын
like he can outsprint philipsen.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 10 ай бұрын
or well torqued
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 10 ай бұрын
@@sudsehun76 shut up
@rocketmanracer26
@rocketmanracer26 10 ай бұрын
@sudsehun76 if Philipsen was that much faster, he wouldn't desperately need to grab a wheel.
@sudsehun76
@sudsehun76 10 ай бұрын
@@rocketmanracer26 ur confusing speed with distance. faster doesn't mean he can hold max speed for 300m. why is bini grabbing cav's wheel then, if he's faster. why not sprint in open wind? fyi, it's not me who's saying jasper is the fastest sprinter atm, it's the cycling world. also, bini and cav aren't even come top 10. that's a preposterous comment to make. he needs to take the wheel to fend off other sprinters.
@crackerbarreIkid55
@crackerbarreIkid55 10 ай бұрын
Case for phillipsen to be relegated was stronger today than in his last win. Shame that there is no consistent enforcement of the rules and that someone has to crash in order for the stewards to take action on dangerous deviations.
@shida2004
@shida2004 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. Today One is very clearly blocking.
@KremlinGremlin_IV
@KremlinGremlin_IV 10 ай бұрын
A focused energy field was sensed by high level officials in the final finish location of stage 7 at the same time Mark Cavendish slipped a gear. We have reason to believe one of the teams may have been involved in unfair mechanical competition that utilized electric pulse waves to induce a shift to the di2 gear system. This matter is currently under investigation.
@franco992
@franco992 10 ай бұрын
Danish Friends! I loved that reference LR
@teweraijanda2994
@teweraijanda2994 10 ай бұрын
So Jasper drove 2 sprinters into opposite barriers within 8 seconds..that is a derby at this point.SMH
@koko-lores
@koko-lores 10 ай бұрын
he was going in a straight line from one opponent to the other though... ;)
@janwillemvanderkrogt2422
@janwillemvanderkrogt2422 10 ай бұрын
Unbelievable, the jury has to be ashamed !😢
@markdonovan1540
@markdonovan1540 10 ай бұрын
Ok, the first win by Philipsen on stage 3, where he was called in to see the stewards, he wasn't penalised and I agreed with it, despite it being perhaps a relegation offense. It was borderline legal at best, hence he was given the benefit of the doubt. However, I would have thought he might have been given a warning that should it happen again then he would get relegated. And that's exactly what should have happened here. He knew if he stayed in the wind he wouldn't catch Cavendish or Biniam (who was on Cav's wheel), so he'd probably have had to settle for third. However, this is where we see his bullying to push Biniam out from behind Cav's wheel and then from there he gets the drag he needs to pull past both of them. Is this racing? Yes. Does it break any rules? I think it does. Was he relegated? No. This is the problem. No sense having rules if they are not enforced. Philipsen, who is a tremendous sprinter, shouldn't need to do this to win sprints, but he clearly shows no qualms in risking injury to others in order to win. However, regardless of the Philipsen dirty approach, Cavendish lost this in a strange way, he seemed to slip a gear or something that caused him to lose momentum at a crucial moment. As Philipsen had bumped Biriam out by the then, it gave him the ideal opportunity to launch his final power delivery to the finish line. Spectacular TdF never fails to deliver, but it's supposed to be a sport with rules that EVERYONE should be subject to. By not penalising this action, what message are the organisers sending to other riders and the public? It doesn't matter when it suits them? Are other influences at play? Biriam is rightly aggrieved for being barged out of the position he was in in long before Philipsen pulled right to knock him out a bit. It should definitely have been a relegation for Philipsen, especially given this is the second time that it's happened. Biniam was bumped by Van der Poel on stage 4, but there MvdP was relegated. There seems to be an inconsistent application of the rules. The TdF organisers need to take a long hard look at this and themselves.
@boblatkey7160
@boblatkey7160 10 ай бұрын
It's almost like someone is watching the camera view and yells into his ear at the very moment and says: "veer right now!"
@hawazino8216
@hawazino8216 10 ай бұрын
The UCI should consider it, they are sprinters, they should focus on winning on the last few seconds not engaging in harming each other. If this unlawful move doesn't stop by the UCI , it could cause serious consequences.
@bencritterson640
@bencritterson640 10 ай бұрын
You could also make the argument that these riders that are complaining at the end are getting boxed in due to their own timidity. When they were side by side Jasper had half a bike length on BG. Jasper beat him to the spot, plain and simple. I see your point but I think if you make standard sprint finishes a penalty you are going to have some really boring races.
@cornishalps9870
@cornishalps9870 10 ай бұрын
@@bencritterson640 There's using dangerous force to get another riders wheel, and then there's being respectful and not chopping someone's wheel when they're in the red sprinting at 70kph.
@fujiman7
@fujiman7 10 ай бұрын
@@cornishalps9870 I'd like to see how sportsmanlike you'd be if you were sprinting for a TdF stage win.
@bencritterson640
@bencritterson640 10 ай бұрын
@@fujiman7 exactly, everyone is talking like these guys are out for a Sunday easy ride.
@Frostbiker
@Frostbiker 10 ай бұрын
@bencritterson640 we don't want riders to get hurt in a sprint, that is all. The organization needs to penalize sprinters who put others at an unnecessary risk
@habeshanuniversalstudio
@habeshanuniversalstudio 10 ай бұрын
I'm Bini's fan ,but Jp is crazy fast he has the speed to block left and right barriers in 5 sec
@kylesmoran
@kylesmoran 10 ай бұрын
He was 2 bike lengths ahead then they were ahead of him because he was swerving. At least cav got ahead. Easy to stay in front when you block everybody.
@kylesmoran
@kylesmoran 10 ай бұрын
No you ain't you an apologist. GTFO
@slayer6936
@slayer6936 10 ай бұрын
He has done it multiple times already he gets away with it because they let him with Wout. He is going to hurt someone!
@ankaslodek3759
@ankaslodek3759 10 ай бұрын
Another sprint controversy, brilliant
@mikexkennedy
@mikexkennedy 10 ай бұрын
Philipsen is the Max Verstappen of the cycling world. "Back off or we crash". Going to end in tears one day.
@darmaggi
@darmaggi 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, Jasper, Max Verstappen, and Marc Marquez are cut from the same cloth where taking chances with competitors lives are concerned, and they all hope to take advantage using that extra aggressiveness to force others to back off or use their rear wheels to clip the competitors front wheels, and you can guess who's going to lose in that confrontation.
@Greg-zk7zh
@Greg-zk7zh 9 ай бұрын
@@darmaggi Max Verstappen is one of the best Formula 1 drivers right now, Marc Marquez is a 6 time MotoGP champion, so you say, that JP is a great rider?
@nikolaivermorgen14
@nikolaivermorgen14 10 ай бұрын
Judging a sprint isn't always as easy as looking for who deviated from their line. Cav starts in the middle and then drifts towards the right hand barrier. Bini is next to Cav but can't match his speed so he tries to tuck into his slipstream. Jasper sees Cav coming and also tries to tuck into his slipstream. So actually they both deviate from their line to follow Cav, who's drifting towards the barrier, and only one can take the slipstream. Jasper gets there first in this case so Bini had to yield. The moment Jasper arrives at Cavs wheel first, Bini's sprint is over. He's boxed in because he didn't have the speed to beat Jasper to the wheel of Cav. After the finish Bini even said there was nothing wrong with Jaspers move, it was just frustration in the heat of the moment. What worries me more is how crooked these barriers look. It's only a matter of time before someone gets caught out by one of those kinks, those are just flat out dangerous.
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone who gets it
@basv8456
@basv8456 10 ай бұрын
So happy to see at least one person gets it
@1badcrossfitter
@1badcrossfitter 10 ай бұрын
This is also how I saw it. And continue to see it every time I watch it over again.
@BurgerTime7441
@BurgerTime7441 10 ай бұрын
I think Jasper was taking Cav's wheel no matter how big or small the gap to the next rider was. He saw that was the place to be and decided he was going for it. JP got over next to Cav with his front wheel up level with Cav's rear wheel, So he was in a stronger position to drift backwards and force Bini off the wheel, even if Bini was only had a gap of 1cm between wheels. Personally I don't know exactly where the line is between normal racing stuff and relegation. People are pushing other guys off wheels many many times in the last 10k of the race. Not sure at what point it becomes not ok. Obviously this is the time where it makes the most difference.
@alexanderevangelista5349
@alexanderevangelista5349 9 ай бұрын
Up for this
@kha9053
@kha9053 10 ай бұрын
Biniam he is a a strong 💪🏿 person they can’t defeated him ❤because of that they tried cutting off that is not fair …,
@BlaqRaq
@BlaqRaq 10 ай бұрын
Nice rules. Lots of logic went into creating those rules. Anyway, I’m happy Bini wasn’t hurt by that careless and reckless ride done to block him.
@zackreynolds7590
@zackreynolds7590 10 ай бұрын
I’m just shocked Cav still has this kind of speed. He came flying by everyone like he used to do but obviously it went wrong. The stars have to be aligning
@jmoggridge
@jmoggridge 10 ай бұрын
philipsen bouncing between the barriers like a pinball
@jatojo
@jatojo 10 ай бұрын
I think they are right when they say that you need to crash if you want your opponent to be relegated. And even if that happens, you don't get anything out of it. Alpecin actually deviates twice in that sprint - if the one with Girmay isn't quite enough to get penalized, the one with Pedersen seconds before could have been referred to.
@markfournette2483
@markfournette2483 10 ай бұрын
So I think Cavendish just needed a 4th bike change to get one that might work for the sprint.
@GuntherSDoumson2178
@GuntherSDoumson2178 10 ай бұрын
Sprints haven´t changed. We have.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 10 ай бұрын
losing life or limb hasn't changed
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