BIONIS IS ON MIRA?!?! - A Xenoblade Theory

Mira is a strange planet with plenty of unsolved mysteries and land-forms yet to be discovered! Could Bionis be on of those places somewhere on Mira?
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[@shieldlesscap6124]

If Shulk created a new universe with Mira, and Alvis is digital, then it would make sense for Mira to be digital. - Translations - Invisible Walls - The planet storing characters' memories - TYRANTS RESPAWNING

[@bladewolfvii6383]

not just tyrants, every creature respawns. and mira being a digital world would make much more sense than bionis and mira being on the same planet...

[@Alkerae]

That's so meta, I love it, the true secret behind Mira is that it exists in a videogame console.

[@the1zeldafan609]

"It's something about this planet." That line might be implying that it's digital buuuut... The way she says it doesn't it sound like it.

[@ontos8534]

mira could be alvis basically making mira a giant planet

[@Verte7]

This gets even more insane when xenoblade 2 happens.

[@Cezzmart67]

Have you finished Xenoblade 2 yet? If not you're in for a treat

[@Verte7]

Christian Kenney I'm sick on the final boss that's why this gets more insane after xenoblade 2

[@thorshammer7883]

Green _ I think Mira is both Bionis and Alrest because that ending seems elude to it. Think about it The Titans are colliding with some huge Land Mass that was already there and that land looks similar to what Shulk was looking at also another thing is that it's surrounded by water and since both games take place at the same time Rex and Shulk's people could have met. Alvis could be the mashine mentioned in Xenoblade 2 that triggered the space anomaly and that's maybe why he's in Xenoblade 1 and why he's more powerful then Zanza traveling between universes could have gave Alvis those nigh omnipotent abilities. And this may explain why the mashines in Xenoblade X can transform because it maybe from the crossing of Mechon with Blade and Artificial Blade technology. Imagine that Rex and Pyra's group meeting Shulk's people.

[@thorshammer7883]

Green _ This may explain why the Homs are gone in X maybe a war broke out between Shulk and Rex's groups with both having their best technological advantages with Rex's group having Blades and Shulk's people having better weapons and they both maybe ended up destroying each other what happened in the Fallout games. Not saying it happened as soon as they met each other but with it happening over time.

[@Verte7]

Thor's Hammer and they never show all of Mira, as you can't fly around the planet, so there could easily be something on the other side of Mira that explains a lot

[@eulefranz944]

7:01 a world with no *Juju*

[@MAZ_249]

Can you lead me to this world?

[@EmilXOM]

If that was the ending, I'd laugh

[@Rigbone64]

Lmao

[@Sillvasuffa]

if only...

[@roberte.ospeedwagon1464]

I loved TheAggyuu

[@sydnerd101]

I'd like to point out that Xenoblade X also has a TON of references and similarities to Xenosaga, especially at the ending. - Elma's true form looks like KOS-MOS- Elma's original form looks like Mary (ancient one) with Chaos's coloring- Lao ends up in a location that looks like the Beach of Nothingness- Like in Xenosaga's backstory, Earth is destroyed and humanity is scattered across the universe- The black cloaked figure looks like a Testament- The Lifehold Archives look like the Zohars (this is also a Xenogears reference)- The scenes where Elma is about to shoot Lao and Lin intervenes holds a striking resemblance from a scene in Xenosaga Episode II, that scene is called "Feb's sisters / Awakening of Omega" where Lin is intervening and Elma threatens to shoot.- The Mimeosomes and the Realians are both machines designed to look like humans- The first character you encounter that both looks young and has silver hair is at the end of the game is revealed to be not human (Chaos, Alvis, and now Elma)- One particular enemy in the game really look like Gnosis (and there's a side quest where people get turned into them)

[@Luxin_Xeno]

This is a very well put together theory, but there are a few small details in both games that make a few points you made a lot less likely. -The world in Xenoblade 1 is described as just the titans and an endless sea. This is said by Alvis in the opening narration too, so it's a lot more likely to be true than if another character had said it. -A minor NPC confirms that the stars, sun, and moon in Xenoblade 1 are actually made of ether, not actual celestial bodies. These last two points basically confirm that the entire universe in the first game is composed of the titans standing on an infinite plane of ocean, with ether lights in the sky. -The planet Shulk makes at the end of the game is heavily implied to be a new Earth, just with the remains and peoples of Bionis (+the Machina) transported to it. The two titans are shown to have emerged from the point in the ocean where Earth once was (it's likely that point became the center of the new universe), and the planet Shulk creates is formed right over the dying titans. My theory for this is that Alvis was able to remake the solar system relatively intact since several planets and the sun appear looking perfectly normally in Zanza's Space Memory, but the rest of the universe was completely redone in such a way that it would contain many planets with new life. I'm pretty sure there's no way this Earth could be the one destroyed at the start of X, the most obvious fact being the other races and humanoids being called Homs instead of humans. Also, Earth in X is confirmed to have had the same history as our own up until Elma showed up to warn the humans and give them technology. -L is native to Mira, and is the last of his race. Ancient members of his species were heavily implied to have made most of the ruins and tech native to the planet. -Defininans are a Ganglion race, they're not actually from Mira. I'm not at all throwing out the possibility of a connection between the universes of the original and X, i don't think Bionis being on Mira is that connection. The Telethia being from a world similar to that of the first game is interesting, though. My personal theory is that the events of the first game exist in-universe in X as a story made up by the Nopon, probably one edited to make Riki the hero, which would explain all the references coming from them only, and Tatsu only sort of knowing the term Hom Hom, he'd probably only heard the legend a couple times.

[@Toe_Jamson]

From what I've divulged from the game, Rock's species is called Gaur which connects to Gaur plains, also an item that is found regularly around the life hold core is called "the book of death and rebirth" which is similar to Zanza's quotes through out the first Xenoblade.

[@BurstFlare]

12:26 Shadow: I think they're a bit too cute to be building killer death machines. *One game later* Tora: *Creates Poppi, who could very well be a killer death machine*

[@ivorybooker8957]

Xenosaga and Xenogears are connected Xenoblade Chronicles X. Elma is Alma from Xenogears. Hell, she virtually is KOS-MOS from Xenosaga. The Zohar is the Lifehold computer storing everything that every lived. Also, it was the reason that four of them were floating in space. Skells are the AGWS. Also, the White Whale was the name of the ship in Xenogears that crashed on the planet. This is humanity trying to regain it's lost heritage.

[@chaosblaziken1]

Great video. Also in Oblivia, the nopon caravan a certain nopon tells you about the floating islands and how they were from some civilization with the tech to make floating buildings, but they died out. Also the same nopon tells you about how the big ring in oblivia was part of a weapon used by native people of mira to destroy other native people of mira.

[@crystalclear7209]

I screamed when Tatsu said Hom Hom.

[@MAZ_249]

I only fell over, that's when I started to theorize the same thing that this theory is...

[@user-sn1hi7my7x]

16:47 Fourth Wall break right there. He's winking to the player behind those glasses

[@abrahamdelgado5682]

B finally! Someone!

[@RakeRay]

Humans are very similar to homs, humans are descendants of Samaar. Could the homs (and of course the high entia and machina as well) be the founders of the Samaar federation? During the final battle Luxaar says "At the dawn of the cosmos, the Samaarians arrived from another plane.", would any other species possibly have that sort of technology so early in the universe existence? Shulk did say that he wanted to meet all the peoples of the new endless world so it would make sense that they would set out as early as possible to do that. Unrelated to the other part, even though the universe Shulk created is a world with no gods Alvis would still need to be in it since he is the reason a universe exists at all. So if Mira would be the place where the Bionis and Mechonis ended up it would make perfect sense for Alvis to be located there as well and would thus explain many things such as why the humans are still alive, how everyone can understand each other, how the Telethia just so happened to come at the perfect time during Chapter 6 (who did the exact same thing in Colony 6 in the first game).

[@RakeRay]

+RakeRay One thing I forgot, at the beginning of chapter 6 Goetia mentions something about the Samaar Federation homeland potentially being on Mira.

[@Crichi404]

I don't know if you will reply, and i don't know if you have played and completed Xenoblade Chronicles 2, so SPOILERS Xenoblade Chronicles 2 retconns the ending of Xenoblade Chronicles. The experiment Klaus did was not solely done by him. He used the Conduit, which he explains, "suddenly appeared." He believed that the Conduit was a divine gift, and it acted as a gateway between universes. Klaus did not destroy his universe (which is not Earth, but Morytha), but instead, flung most of the inhabitants of the original universe into another (the Bionis and Mechonis). The original universe still existed, and Klaus was split into two, with his good half in the original (The Architect) and his evil half (Zanza) in the other. The Architect took the old universe and created Alrest, and created a new cycle of life, though not destructive like Zanza's. These two worlds exist practically right next to each other, but do not know of each other's existence. Eventually, the death of Zanza kills The Architect Klaus as well. What I'm trying to get at is that the Conduit, which was given by some divine entity to Klaus, could relate to what is going on with the Samaarians. it's most likely that the Samaarians are other humans flung from Morytha and into one of the infinite universes. They just happened to come to our universe when the Earth was new, and we descended from them.

[@thorshammer7883]

ChrisGHD Do you think Ontos is Alvis or is Alvis the conduit?

[@thorshammer7883]

Vesmir NG-3 So Ontos probably isn't Alvis.

[@thorshammer7883]

Vesmir NG-3 A AI character in Xenoblade 2 that vanished mysteriously after messing with a spacial anomaly.

[@MelodiCat753]

This is all a theory for fun as I know the developers have stated that the games are not connected, but I like to think that the continents we see in X are the remains of the Bionis and Mechonis. Talon Rock and the other things like it in Primorida are the Bionis leg. The hollow hills near the Silent Mire in Primordia are possibly the shoulder/Colony 6's splintered path. Noctilum has the remains of Makna Forest, as well as it has the divine roost. The divine roost's geography is similar to the geography of Eryth Sea in that it is a floating body of water surrounded by land. It also has a telethia in it, which makes sense considering that Alcamoth was in Eryth Sea. Oblivia has the giant ring which looks very similar to the gigantic ring on the Mechonis' left shoulder in art work. There are various other rings in Oblivia that could have been Mechonis body parts. There is a floating island that is literally called the Floating Reef. Perhaps it drifted over from the Divine Roost and is a remain of Eryth Sea? Some reefs also could have floated over to Primordia and become its floating islands. Perhaps multiple parts of Oblivia are from Sword Valley. Not sure about the big hole in Oblivia, though. Sylvalum is very sandy. With lots of concentrated balls of ether and the sand everywhere, I think some of the Bionis Interior ended up here. The sides of Oblivia and the mountain near Badr Basin look metalic in nature, so maybe remains of the Mechonis interior (Mechonis Field, Central Factory, etc.) ended up here as well. Lastly, there are many arches and bridges that look very similar to Valek Mountain, so the remains of that could be here. Cauldros is the volcanic region, which made me think of the lava,hot molten metal in the Central Factory. Perhaps there was lava heating up the metal there and all that lava ended up in Cauldros. Okay, that was a bit of stretch. Besides that, there are many metallic things here that are reminiscent of the Mechonis body parts. Here's my complete theory: Shulk and Alvis recreate the universe. Earth is recreated as well as the new planet that is seen at the end of Xenoblade, which in my totally for fun theory is Mira. The planet at the end of Xenoblade is shown to have the remains of Bionis on it (possibly the Mechonis as well), and these remains plus ground that Shulk and Alvis created become Mira's continents. The Nopon lived on in the region by the time the humans arrive, and the Machina, High Entia, and Homs perhaps went into space to other places. The Homs eventually created the Ganglion as the Sammarians, and some Homs interbred with the new primitvie humans on the new Earth. Some Machina became the Definians as well. Again, this was all a theory for fun, and I don't really believe in all aspects of it, but I do think that the landmarks in X might be references to the original.

[@StarlightKick]

You may wanna update this theory when Xenoblade 2 comes out. Hopefully that game will give us more answers. (Edit February 11, 2022: Holy fuck, this is now a possible theory for Xenoblade 3. If both species from 1 and 2 and it's remains are now both in the same world, it could be possible both worlds are on Mira long before X takes place.

[@hugenose8824]

Almost two years after this video was posted, we had confirmation that (*BIONIS-SIZED SPOILERS* FOR XENOBLADE 2 (and 1, and X) FOLLOW!!!) Xenoblade 2 is actually strongly connected to the original, after much insistence from developers it was it’s own story, renders these theories about X much more plausible. They need to be revisited with the new evidence Xenoblade 2 provides, in confirming there are multiple dimensions coexisting, including Bionis, Alrest, and possibly Mira, with a mystical Conduit able to manipulate their very fabric (Alvis?). Seriously, theorists need to get cracking on this.

[@charliev8224]

And the last few chapters in the game basically connect Xenogears and Xenosaga to Xenoblade, not to mention that freakin kos mos is in xc2, creating a unique and unbelievably dense lore. Any future xeno game from here on out will only add to the story and mystery

[@AnalystAdam]

I wonder if Xenoblade 3 will push this theory even further by the end of that game. We'll just have to wait and see this July!

[@theletsplaycurse]

i looked through the comments and somehow no one has thought of this idea that i know of but at the very end of xenoblade chronicles x you see a beach with lao on it which is similar to the beach we see at the end of xenoblade chronicles and that figure that walks up to him can't be anyone other than dunban but hey thats what i think

[@TheGamerGurls]

I never thought about it being the same beach! That'd be interesting!

[@theletsplaycurse]

i thougt of some other things as well like L being another form of alvis and how it seems like the barrier that protects the lifehold is similar to the barrier that protects prison island in xenoblade chronicles

[@ColdRamenTPM]

that's a beach in eastern primordia

[@theletsplaycurse]

+ColdRamen if that was the case then how do you explain the person that walked up to Lao If it was a beach from xenoblade chronicles then we have a possible explanation for it not only that but we have an explanation for the telethia as well Plus it would be a bit weird from a story perspective for Lao to just end up in eastern primordia and also since the people of NLA are constantly searching the entire area of xenoblade chronicles X they would have probably found Lao straight away

[@obsidironpumicia4074]

It is assumed that the caped figure is the Black Knight, who was supposed to be the primary antagonist in X. He is also reportedly the pilot of the "Black Skell" which fended off most of the Ganglion forces. Other than his other moniker, "The Lone Hero", nothing else is known.

[@IllIlllI]

„Recreating personalities from your memories“ Explains how in x people can live in mims without their „personality part“ being on the mainframe The samaritans are actually people from xenogear, the tech Elma gave the humans comes from xenogear, she is from xenogear I think Mira isn’t real, it’s more or less a simulation. That explains the language barrier thing. The whole thing is like a never ending cycle, not sure where if my order is correct but somewhere on the line of: Xenogear > (event that creates more than one timeline / Xenoblade1) > timeline 1 resulting in a cycle leading to xenoblade2 > timeline 2 resulting in XenobladeX Theres definitely a connection here, it’s a loop that when it ends, triggers a new beginning / retelling of the same story with slight changes

[@IllIlllI]

Luxar says something along the lines of „human birthright“ to Elma, something similar is present with the highEntia and Melia. Luxar talks about a failsafe that can stop the ganglions (Human DNA), there’s a failsafe in Telethia as well.

[@IllIlllI]

Theres no Connection between xenoblade 1/2 and X caus it’s literally a different universe (still connected, since „the story never ends...“)

[@IllIlllI]

The vita is probably gonna end up as mechonis (or as blueprint for him) when piloted by „the chosen“, something is gonna end up as bionis, piloted by zanza. In the end it’s gonna be about human vs robot and the existence of god. Or, what is human, can machines be human, what makes a god

[@IllIlllI]

Luxar also talks about „human being the cancer“ maybe all the dimension splitting caused a sentient ancient race (ghosts? Beginning of xenoblade x) to try and eliminate all of mankind for the chaos they created

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

It seems I'm not the only one who came to the same conclusion of bionis being on Mira. I really hope it is!

[@CJluvsMJ27]

A bunch of spoilers I just thought of something. Remember when Alvis said that beings "inevitably attempt to escape the passage of fate"? Is this why no one can escape Mira & why others keep crashing onto Mira? The passage of fate did look like space after all. Luxxar says it's even hard to time travel coz of Mira's atmosphere. Doesn't time travel, in either direction, count as changing the future, the same future that is changed within the passage of fate? So it makes sense that Mira's atmosphere is actually the passage of fate instead of normal space. I also believe that Alvis is seriously messing with the people of Mira. The only way I can see it possible for their languages to be translated fluently is through the work of a computer, much like our own smart devices & PCs. There's no way that a person could possibly translate these languages at the rate that the translations are needed. What do you guys think?

[@MAZ_249]

Seems legit, but I'm more curious right now to see what they do for XC3. They could advance these theories or trash them completely

[@CJluvsMJ27]

Michael Zvaniga more spoilers... The whole idea of a computer/Alvis running Mira was influenced by an outside source: the XBCX special edition package. It comes with a flash drive shaped like the little Lifeholds you find all over Mira. What do you do with a flash drive? You plug it into your PC & download the data. Maybe all of the data from the Lifehold was downloaded into Alvis' hard drive when the ship crashed, including the human languages? Even L was able to speak a lil human language with just a 3rd of the Lifehold's data. It's possible that Alvis Rosetta Stone'd the languages as everyone spoke, & it's possible that he saved everyone by making a backup file for the Lifehold Core before it shut down. Yes, I'm implying that Alvis is possibly Mira itself. XP

[@the1zeldafan609]

That's what was about this planet.

[@MonadoBoyFlameRock]

There's so much to be discovered in this series i hope the next game really tells us how Bionis lived in some way or form or how Shulk & his companions lived through those years without Zanza & Menyeth And how chronicles X started from the beginning so much answers thanks Monolith Soft and you too Shadow Resho. this was a great theory

[@sircadet9035]

Holy shit Xenoblade Chronicles 2 ending

[@thorshammer7883]

Donaldo alvares Yeah it probably eludes that Mira is both Alrest and Bionis.

[@adamrhodes9533]

Let me rephrase; Rather, Bionis IS the part of Mira you're on. At the end of the first Xenoblade, it's clear that Shulk's world caused massive terraforming, as that was Colony 6 and nowhere near Colony 6 resembled what we saw. Additionally, parts of Primordia resemble Bionis' Leg, parts of Noctilum look like Makna Forest and Frontier Village, with a landmark even being named Nopon Braidbridge. Some of the ruins in Oblivia are outright similar to the pipes used to navigate on Fallen Arm.

[@OracleGrouse]

+Adam Rhodes The rings in Oblivia are from Mechonis Arm. I'd say both Titans were mixed in the new world, ie.: Noctilum Falls are identical to Geat Makna Falls.

[@OracleGrouse]

Titanic Steampunk It's possible. Or Cauldros is another area of Bionis/Mechonis rich in minerals/crystals and they mined so much they augmented the volcanic activity in the area.

[@MrMaskedhater]

Great video man. However, I have a few things I want to add. 1) Bionis is gone. Period. Bionis was the giant Titan. The new world created at the end of Xenoblade is not Bionis. It's a new world. 2) The idea of creating a new universe was already in Xenosaga with Wilhelm and his eternal recurrence plot. The universe had already been reset many times before Zanza did it. 3) There is a definite possibility that the homs are the original Samaarians, and they colonized the universe. That is why we have all the different XCX races. They're all homs that have evolved after millions of years in different environments. Again, there's precedence of this idea with the beginning of Xenogears, for example.

[@rigglius7233]

I have something to add to your number one. Bionis is still present in the last cut scene of chronicles, but only the head is visable

[@MrMaskedhater]

Not to mention the same director, who also wrote them.

[@maxspecs]

I believe that Mira and the remade world are one in the same, however...My theory is more that the two continents of Mira are the remains of the giants. Primordia and Noctuum are right next to each other and very reminisce of Guar Plains and Makna Forest, with swampy areas that are akin to Satorl Marsh thrown in. Obivia is a bit trickier, but the mountainous terrain is a match to Valak Mountain. The floating islands of it and Primordia also remind me of the Eryth Sea... Sylvalium is a molded-over metal continent, whereas the molten Cauldros reeks of the leftover power units from the Mechonis. These two areas, next to each other and facing the other three, could easily be leftovers from the metal giant. The fact that the Definians are found nearly exclusively in Cauldros, being supposed descendants of the Mechon race, as well as the mass amounts of ruins found there point to a long-lived race of Mechon colonizing it and living far beyond any race short of the Nopon. The biggest holes in the theory are that it's mentioned that Nopon come from off-world, and the literal giant hole in Oblivia. The only place in the world you can fall to your death (aside from the volcano crater in Cauldros, maybe?) and there's a barrier at the bottom once you can fly. What the heck caused that massive hole?

[@MelodiCat753]

I know this is old, but I believe the giant ring in Mira is the giant ring on Mechonis. They look so similar!

[@harrisonslack6383]

Honestly I never thought of a continuity between the 2 games, I saw it as more of a timeline split. So i thought that xenoblade X happens in a universe where the universe of xenoblade chronicals was never created, hence explaing all the advanced technology. The only thing I ran into is that this doesnt explain the nopon being in X at all

[@RichardKleinRuthRizen]

Ya know, this is what i've been thinking the entire time I played through X. There were so many nods it has to be related to OR Bionis in general. We did see the world become a sphere in the ending cutscene of the original. Therefore, isn't it possible that maybe the power of the monados might be the cause of everything happening on Mira? I mean, it would make complete sense the more you think of it. in the original we were always told the Monado's abilities weren't completely known. So, couldn't that mean, perhaps, that the monados have the ability to keep everything on mira going strong?

[@marshadowkid2182]

Did. you have to give shulk glasses during that sequence

[@rigglius7233]

That little thing you added to the end strengthens the theory even more. That character must of been alive through xenoblade chronicles to the point your at now. And there is one character in chronicles that does live for 9999 years, so is that person that machina that you can give eternal life to.

[@FireEmblemForceman81]

I like this! I still feel like Monolith laid the references on thick and the connections didn't have too much meaning in and of themselves, but as the series progresses there will likely be more evidence. Considering that the series is going in a Final Fantasy kind of direction where each game is a different world {XC2 will have a fresh start, too} I wouldn't be surprised if there are common species shared in between them {i.e. Nopon being like FF's Chocobos and Moogles} and further references in the Collectopaedia.

[@elbedost]

dont forget in one of the quests from the voltants you do a search for info on their old gods and when you complete the quest you see that their gods where actually human or homs (it does not speceficly say human or homs) so this could futher strengten your theory

[@Kyzoren]

I just remembered, there was a quest in OG Xenoblade where this High Entia kid was trying to figure out how to get the Telethia-fied High Entia back to normal. If the results of this quest were to have eventually been successful in some way, maybe full High Entia could've been revived and still be around on Bionis. and Endbringer and Plume are the last remaining due to how strong they are. Due to how Endbringer behaves, maybe it achieved some kind of enlightenment or regained consciousnesses to some degree and now protects the planet from (extremely)malevolent forces and/or powerful creatures like the Yggralith, It's Enemy Index entry states that it has helped BLADE operatives on missions sometimes, as demonstrated in the story cutscene with him in it.

[@LeXhikis]

At this point its hard to connect XC and XCX. I think youre wrong assuming that the telethia prescence is a connection. A lot of developers reuse certain aspects le elements between their tales. Fromsoft for example uses the Moonlight Sword in its games (Armored Core, Demon Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodbourne to mention so me) but that doesnt make them sequels or part of the same universe. Maybe in the sequel of X we can confirm or dismiss these games being related other than the name.

[@lukemcfall644]

If the games are connected X2/ZX/whatever it's gonna be called if they make a sequel we better see a pilgrimage from the main continents to find the Bionis and Mechonis. Or at least I'd like to see that

[@firecorgi5718]

I acctually believe the continents are the fallen Titans the continents match up to the original areas in xenoblade (primordia=bionis leg and knee noctilum=satoral marsh mixed with the forest oblivia=a dried up eryth sea it also is the only area with floating islands like eryth sea sylvalum: Valak mountain effected by the ash from oblivia since it is has very tall mountains oblivia:the remains of mechonis after the explosions which is why there is lava and tech there is either the mechon or the enemy in X forgot the name) it makes a lot of sense at least to me because we saw at the end of chronicles that bionis looks flat as if it fell over in the way the landscape looks in the pull out at the end

[@firecorgi5718]

I also propose that in alvis universe earth wasn't a thing it was a different planet entirely and earth was only created after the universal reset that shulk caused and from there earth history happens over billions of years and bionis's parts and mechonis became Mira

[@firecorgi5718]

+Firecorgi I didn't mean alvis I ment Zanza or Claus

[@livrax5827]

One thing to note is that Mira has 4 small moons and 1 giant one. In order to counter act this and for Mira to have similar properties to Earth the planet has to be humongous. So it is very possible for the people of Bionis and the people of NLA to not know about each other. Another thing to note is that Nopon would most likely be the race to set off of Bionis in search of land as they are traveling merchants, and with a whole world to explore. One last thing to point out about your theory about Xenoblade X taking place a long time after the original is the Ponado (nopon monado) and the monado hair clips. Those two items from in game appear to be in VERY good condition considering they are thousands of years old according to your theory. So it is easy to believe that the Nopon left Bionis first in search of new races to trade with, the people of NLA came crashing down, the prone hunted down the nopon travelers, and the people back on Bionis never left after the venturing Nopon never came back.

[@matthewe0218]

If we could have telethia and pharsis fighting in the next game I would pay all the money I ever make

[@antoninbernard9656]

I think the ruins in Oblivia look a lot like parts of Mekonis, like the rings on its shoulders. Also, the buildings in Cauldros kinda look like Alcamoth, but that's a stretch. I think if Bionis is somewhere, it just collapsed and formed Primordia and maybe Noctilum. There are things in Primordia that look like Bionis' wings

[@MAZ_249]

The problem with your Mechonis theory is that the Mechonis was completely destroyed, the only thing that remained was the fallen arm

[@antoninbernard9656]

Even after Shulk "recreated" the world with Alvis?

[@MAZ_249]

Good point, but at the same time, you never see the Mechonis after he recreates the world.

[@antoninbernard9656]

Michael Zvaniga Maybe that was intentional

[@MAZ_249]

Ohhhh, I like that idea :)

[@IamFatcat.]

Hare a game with its own brand identity and own history. I'll make a continuation but distinct both in argument and atmosphere but I'll put some EASTER EGGS last game to give a smile to the fans. Fact: A lot of theories about both universes are connected even when clarified that it is not.

[@OracleGrouse]

Multiple points to add or correct: The Definians aren't from Mira, they arrived with the Ganglion. And I noticed just before ch12, in BLADE Tower, you can see an hologram of Mira and there are land masses on the other side of the planet. That might be where Lao washed up and where the Black Knight found him. And the rings in Oblivia weren't "man-made", they'd be from the Mechonis Arm's rings. Even the protusions on the rings are the same. The Noctilum Falls eerily look like the Great Makna Falls. Ever noticed the giant spikes around NLA? Identical ones can be found near the Noctilucent Sphere, just a lot more dusty. It means something crashed there. I think it might have been an enemy force, explaining why there are so many Xe-Doms and Oc-servs patrolling the area after all those years. Those enemies might have marched North to the Or'sim capital and a battle ensued= The Emerian Battlegrounds. Though I'm quite sure that city is Samaarian and not Hom (unless they're the same) as the tower architecture is quite reminiescient of their ship design. And the statues around Cauldros look like humans too. Now, about the Samaar, they might be the Homs. If I speculate, I'd say Shulk's civilization developped quite advanced technologies through the generations and then explored the universe and created their own "biological machines" which they programmed to not attack them, and they created a lot of them in various 'species'. But they described the Samaar as 'coming from another dimension at the dawn of the Universe'. Mira might exist on some sort of sub-dimension in our universe, because many races describe landing/crashing on Mira as being quite unusual: -Everybody lost control of their flight system. I'm no engineer but I think those rely on coordinates and entering a new dimension would really confuse such system. -And the planet "suddenly appeared" on their radar... The world we see at the end of XC kinda felt like an utopia with all the races mingling peacefully and strangely Mira tries to act the same: -The Zaruboggans find their Voltant and were surprised with their luck -The Orphes can replicate Senirapa water with Miran water with only a few tweaks -The War seeking Ganglion enraging all wildlife the moment they arrived (L described the planet as being peaceful until their arrival) -The bacterias in Miran water happens to be rich in a certain 'type of bacteria'. According to a friend who studied in biology, there are bacterias that can store foreign DNA and use it to evolve....... and what happened to the Lifehold? Water leaked in and we just happen to see Lao waking up on a beach, near water. So Mira allows humans to be reborn in its oceans. And water is often a symbol for re/birth and regeneration. That's all I remember...

[@peacorptv6502]

I think Shulk is in the game. Either as The Black Knight or L

[@OracleGrouse]

peacorptv If I understand correctly, the Black Knight might be human or sided with humanity at one point, so not him. And why L? He's a representation of Lucifer and a completely different race. And X takes place eons after Chronicles. I doubt Shulk is immortal.

[@OracleGrouse]

Titanic Steampunk Shulk roaming around the world, unable to die, having seen the eons pass... Or people trapping him into immortality to worship him as a god. That'd be cool (plus him joining the party again.) But he did forfeit his godhood at the end, we just don't know to what point.

[@OracleGrouse]

***** It's during chapter 12, when you're in BLADE Tower, behind Maurice(?). It's a small hologram, but there's definitely something on the other side. You could probably see it in a LP.

[@OracleGrouse]

Exciting isn't it?

[@JamesAuseten]

Nah, Xenoblade Chronicles X and the original one stand strongly alone as independent stories. Trying to link the two of them together is really reaching. It's like trying to link together the universe of Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica. Also, the universe of XCX is much more consistent with Xenogears or Xenosaga than Wii Xenoblade.

[@treyjay9560]

James Austen This comment needs more attention.

[@MasterJunior93]

P V h Easter eggs. Monolith Soft made the games, they can put whatever they want in their own games. There's no need for a connection; game devs love Easter eggs as much as we do.

[@Soru98]

Huh, I honestly didn't think of this theory to be honest. I had a theory about how Bionis and Mira were in the same universe (but different planets), and how Shulk was likely Lin's father. But watching this theory makes SO much more sense!! Time to play X again! :D

[@shawnitonnoryzus7247]

You are right about the nopons creating replicas this applies with xenoblade 2 as well where masterpon made an Aegis like weapon for popi qtπ, its a direct clue out of it

[@TheSweetSpirit]

I thought all of this before the game came out. Not the specifics, just the idea that the X universe (literally ANY universe) could have been the Xenoblade universe. I sort of gave up thinking about it, but it's still fun to theorize about.The fact that the lifehold stuff looks similar to the zohar (particularly from Xenosaga, but also somewhat Xenogears) things really interest me. I also don't think Tatsu's mention of homs are ONLY for a joke, but that's just me being hopeful lol. I'm more curious about how Mira is freaking super crazy and weird. So many questions about its existence, lol.

[@They_are_Arthur]

Maybe the Homs just didn't enjoy travelling as much as the Nopon. Maybe the Bionis area on Mira is just really, REALLY far away from the other continents, and the Homs didn't feel like bothering with it.

[@jesynelsonsjamaicanaccent3531]

King Arthur That doesn't sound right though, nopon aren't the curious type.

[@They_are_Arthur]

PuPSter PuP Nopon may not be curious, but they are almost every where in Xenoblade 1 and X. In XC, they inhabit Colony 9, spots around the Bionis' Leg, eventually Colony 6, Satorl Marsh, the Bionis Interior, Makna Forest, even Eryth Sea, and Valak Mountain. They aren't on the Mechonis of course, but they're all over Bionis, so it would be plausible that the Nopon would travel out to far away continents such as Primordia and Oblivia. The Homs mostly inhabit the lower parts of the Bionis, and only the war hardened Homs can be found on the Fallen Arm. I'd say it's safe to say that the Nopon generally love travelling, and the Homs will live with what they've got.

[@jesynelsonsjamaicanaccent3531]

King Arthur The only reason I can think of is that Nopon just wanted to sell their merchandise to whatever was there at the time so most of them migrated?

[@They_are_Arthur]

PuPSter PuP Plausible. That sounds very right.

[@jesynelsonsjamaicanaccent3531]

King Arthur In XC they talk about Nopon Merchants traveling across the Bionis all the time so it makes sense some of them would settle in different areas where they sell well.

[@kjelljouck208]

i think metal face is converted into the vita

[@ardras4649]

What if...the Homz were the Samaarians the ganglion fears so much? I don't have any solid prooves, it's just un huntch... But it would make sense wouldn't it?

[@Alkerae]

**realization** so, hey, what about this... Nobody is able to leave Mira, even Professor B couldn't leave with a(n alleged) time machine. Not only that, but the humans arrival on Mira was slightly suspect I always thought. What if it's not so much a case of Mira and Earth being in the same universe (or if they are, that they always were) so much as, Mira IS the planet from XC, after the era of stagnation foreshadowed in the end of it's game. The landmasses are the collapsed body of bionis, and the steel structures in oblivia are what's left of the collapsed body of mechonis after centuries of looting and recycling. The forcefields keeping everybody on the planet are there because it's a world of two long dead gods, it doesn't have a place in a galaxy of rules and physics, and it no longer has gods because of Shulk's wish... however, the events that made this world in the first place, with that space station and supermassive ultra galaxy collider ring the size of the whole planet, those were never truly undone, thus leaving it as it's own special place cut off from the rest of existence due to the wishes of the gods who came before Shulk. I'm way too tired to try to make complex theories, I probably explained that just awfully. It's far more likely that the references are just nods, and the game is only named xenoblade to ride on the coattails of a completely different, totally unrelated game. I do think, however, that the forcefields keeping you within the play area seem awfully story canon, there's mention in the game that the planet seems to attract all sorts of life from all over the universe (and then trap them here), the time travel machine being bounced back is a bigger clue than we think it is, and if this was the world of the gods from XC that may also lay groundwork for explaining how we can all talk to eachother, and why humans just can't seem to die. (Lao having his body back was a big eyebrow raiser, his body was surely destroyed why did it reappear?) OF COURSE, however, this all depends on the devs for this game having a Hideo Kojima level of writing talent and motivation behind a plothole filled world. So... I'm going to just lean on the side of "it's just a stupid game with lots of references" for the time being, because the writing in this game just hasn't earned that level of respect from me from what I've seen so far.

[@Mr.Sniffles]

What if the Homs and High Entia where the original Samaarions? This would explain why humans (who are direct descendants of the original Samaarions) look like homs. Plus Luxaar said that they the Samaarians came from another cosmos. Perhaps the original Bios? Also The technology needed to created high tech. Spaceships could be provided by the High Entia. And since the Gangilons where created by the Samaarians it's safe to assume that this was possible by High Entia tech. After all DNA technology would be something that the High Entia would be very skilled at. Just some random thoughts here but i really liked this video. It's about time someone made a video about this.

[@Moneymade77]

Fiora's attack at 18:33 and the attack from ares 90...another easter egg!

[@alfredochamorro9831]

the place in mira where the thelethia stay is similar at the bionis head and is the once of the most tall places of the game

[@melvinstarks9504]

I like how he warns ppl about spoilers but we have a clear view of blade tower oh and look her a spoiler

[@jakewoods6721]

If you look at ending of xenoblade chronciles the bionis appears to be inside a planet, which is rather strange. Plus at the end of xenoblade chronicles x you see the 'broken data base' flooding

[@kingdracox3008]

If the two games are connected (Which they really aren't) then here's my theory. The Homs from XC1 use space travel to go a planet that is named Earth. All records of anything in XC1 including the planet the Bionis was on fades away to the ages. When Earth gets destroyed and the WW reaches Mira they've actually re-discovered Bionis, and all the other continents are just the corpses of the Bionis and Mechonis. Primordia is the Bionis leg and Kneecap Noctilum is Satorl Marsh mixed with Bits of Makna Forest Cauldros is a chunk of the Mechonis Sylvalum is one of the lower regions of Valak Mountain Like I said the two games aren't connected. Just thought this would be fun

[@sirtreeswithabeard6276]

yes they are xenoblade 2 and 3ds are linked and this xeno game and xeno gears etc are all linked

[@gonderage]

apparently there is a nopon in the drongo caravan who clearly explains that the ruins in cauldros were in ruins *waaaaaaaay* before there were nopon. otherwise a lot of stuff in mira is there because the designers thought itd look bitchin sick if there were pointy things and easter eggs

[@SitoneRiviera]

16:15 This song is in the game but I don't know the name of it and it comes up a lot. Does anyone know the name of this song?

[@jordanhaugen7363]

I think it goes without question that the Samarrians are homs, a point supported by the Zaruboggan mission where you see what their creators look like. they looked like humans and who looks like humans? The Homs.

[@jordanhaugen7363]

now I realize that there's no proof that it was the Samarrians that made them, but they would certainly be Advanced enough.

[@SmasherUGS]

What if, due to the definitive editions changes, the Key on Alvis neckglace, is actually a USB memory, and Mira is in itself that data, explaining why the mimiosome still work, it could just be a glitch on that memory. (also, pokemon sun/moon ending had a chamber very much like the final area in X, but that is taking it a bit too far ;) ) (pokemon are blades)

[@HoDKenji]

Klaus is the architect of shulks world and rex´s world. Alrest ist the paralel world of shulks world.

[@JimLStone]

There was a Hom village on Mira But the white whale crashed down right on top of it, killing them all

[@fmskaisergsaw5567]

i didnt watch the wohle video so far (stoped at 11:41) but i had to stop to say this: There is a trophy for finding the secret spot on the huge ring in oblivia, and this trophy in german has roughly this name: "Wem wohl dieser Ring gehört?" - "Who probably owned this ring?" Also, not related to the video but i never found anything about it in the net. Spoiler ahead! The guy, who is responsible for the 100 lopsters side mission said this in his quest: "The Deeds done from us in the Lifehold were overshadowed from a traitor that >survived< and that hes under us while nobody does anything against him" (poor english sry) at least in german i understood from it that its known to him that Lao survived.

[@kissairashaegawa8555]

Awesome. You made me so hype for X2. If they make it.

[@Mecchy_Monke47]

I had an eargasm when he said Xenoblade Chronicles X 2 was coming out

[@MAZ_249]

It's not confirmed that there will be a XC3 or that it would be a sequel to X. But I'm willing to bet all my money that there will be a XC3

[@SockTeamStudios_Official]

Jo I'm also from the future. 2 is connected with 1 not X

[@jackaverill1253]

My theory is that the Homs are the samaarians, and with the help of high entia tech, they created the massive samaar federation to explore the universe, but as malennias passed, they're goal may have changed, or maybe their genetically engineered servants, the ganglion took control of the federation, killing the Homs. Also, I found it interesting that the craftable super civilization attire is L's and Celica's outfits, maybe Celica is a high entia.

[@jackaverill1253]

Also, if you look at the structure of sylvalum, all of the arches really give me a gaur plains vibe

[@goldwyvern465]

I had theorised that sylvalum was a dried up erith sea because of the shape of it and the walls around it that resemble bone.

[@mythguard6865]

I am so glad I’m not the only one who thought about this

[@SkilledYetTalentless]

What has become very clear from playing through Xenoblade X is that Monolith Soft designed it to be open ended. Mira had me convinced as soon as I met Tatsu and his family, that the planet houses the remnants of the great titans, but as Elma said at the end of the game, there's something about Mira itself that is somehow partially protecting the humans. Not only that, but Mira's occupied space is said on many an occasion to be unstable, by Luxaar himself, and also by Professor B. when he tries to time travel.

[@Fsawk]

Really great video Shadow, super interesting :D

[@harunji]

Claus destroyed the earth with some kind of the Large Hadron Collider

[@kevincmejia]

I still firmly believe the X series are supposed to happen before the story of Klaus the cliffhanger of the ending of XCX leads me to believe soon in the sequel we will learn what happened to earth and know more about klaus, the architect of the universe of Shulk and Rex

[@Ghost_Drive]

Nice video! I would like to add on something about weather. My favorite place in all of gaming is Eryth Sea at night during a meteor shower. I could sit and stare for almost an hour if it didn't end. Another strange weather effect was Satorl Marsh at night, with the glowing lights floating around. Now, what is some of the more interesting weather in Mira? Well, I loved the idea of electromagnetic storms. In addition, there is cinder block rain. But there are three I want to point out: Energy mist in Noctilum, Spores in Sylvalum, and meteor showers in Oblivia. Don't the spores and/or (probably or) share a resemblance with Satorl Marsh? And meteor showers are exactly the same. So now, wouldn't it make sense that those two things be on the same planet? The spores could have traveled with the homs, and the meteor showers could happen regardless of geography. As for the still huge differences in ecosystem, a BLADE mentions how strange it is that the continents are the way they are. half-baked, I know, but I'm wondering if there is merit to it. Also, nice outfit, that is literally what I put on my character when I want him to have casual clothes.

[@ChakainHD]

Dude you just blew my fucking mind. Excellent work though

[@Kyzoren]

Due to Shulk rebooting the universe, an old Earth duplicate, XCX's Earth, would make total sense! I think Mira is way bigger than what we can explore, I doubt the world is only the 5 continents and endless oceans. I believe, beyond great sea and the green wall boundaries, lies in wait, the old world... the remains of Bionis (and Mechonis), where the "Legendary Frontier Village" would still be... maybe an ancient Alcomoth, still floating in the sky.... and most definitely a city that would be called... Colony 69 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) Side note, I wanna say "The Nopon are the key to Mira's hidden past..." but they were probably too busy trying to make a quick buck rather than write down their history and keep it protected... or remembered...

[@LCHIGO420]

in my opinion i think this theory is bs.The Bionis Was a Computerized Program

[@jesynelsonsjamaicanaccent3531]

OverWatch Gamer No it wasn't.

[@LCHIGO420]

proof?

[@jesynelsonsjamaicanaccent3531]

OverWatch Gamer Not how it works. You don't prove something is untrue before it's proven true.

[@LCHIGO420]

ok then this theory is not true.This is because in the end of the game its revealed that the bionis and mechonis was created by zanza and meyneth.

[@jesynelsonsjamaicanaccent3531]

OverWatch Gamer Yes, that doesn't mean it's a computerized program. Alvis is the computer, the world of Bionis and Mechonis actually existed after Earth was destroyed in that universe. This Theory makes a lot of sense.

[@AceZ-X7]

You know. Look at talon rock in the entirety of its geography... Done? Doesn't it look like bionis?

[@DavideGrucci95]

It's gonna be exciting when Xenoblade Chonicles IX will be announced.

[@jamiehyland548]

This video was so well made!! I love it!! My thoughts exactly on the howl telethia part

[@puzzle_1279]

I'm at 16:57, wasn't there a side quest where the one of aliens that wear those suits gets a hold of a record of their gods and its revealed to look a lot like the humans in the game?

[@gonderage]

yeah, the zaruboggians. there was the heretic and he asked you to revive him with a diamond thing in return for decoding an encryption. it then revealed that the zaruboggians creators are *veeeeeeeery* close to looking like humans. he then proceeded to flip out.

[@WaltDisneyMC91]

Well you were right about Klaus not destorying the original universe I guess

[@joeham8795]

I'm a fan of both games and this theory, but if zanza made a new universe and in the process getting rid of the milky way galaxy universe thing, it would be incredibly lucky for shulks universe to remake earth

[@andrewholm739]

you were right about them not destroying earth this is explained in xenoblade chronicles 2

[@bladewolfvii6383]

something entirely different: I wonder if humanity has achieved immortality in the sence that the mimeosomes don't age?

[@derpinickd4626]

loved this video so much. very good theory and one random fact. the sun sets the same on mira and bionis.

[@GamingWithLuigi]

This is just mindblowing! Great video and THEORY!

[@WordChicken-mk7el]

What about Celica she could be a homs I haven't finished all the affinity missions so correct me if I'm wrong

[@michaelsaurusrox325]

And who is L?

[@livrax5827]

+Word1012 Chicken Celica isn't a homs. She appears to be a human-cat hybrid when looking at her ears. She and L are probably part of races that were created when the world was remade

[@maxspecs]

+Word1012 Chicken Celica's referred to as a Qlurian in the game, which is one of the alien races exploited by the Ganglion. Rhyz is of the same race...but we don't know much more than that about them.

[@TAMEREDUDESERT]

And what about the Mekonis ??

[@Kyzoren]

Where does it say the Definians are native to Mira? I don't remember that... Although, even if they aren't, the theory still could work when considering not only the Definians but the Mimiosomes are mechanical as well... why would Elma's race create such a thing? Where does THAT originate if not from them? Also one mustn't forget about the Zaruboggans; In a quest, we aid one in finding the origins of their race, and surprisingly, the progenitors of their race seem to be EXACTLY like humans like in appearance... what's up with that...? We never see Zaruboggans outside of their suits but, due to the reaction of the Zaruboggan quest-giver, I can assume they look nothing like us under their suits...

[@dillonkinder9296]

so Shulk created a new universe does that mean he also created the alien species that destroyed earth and want all humans dead in Xeoblade X?

[@justnope5358]

maybe

[@austinkasmeier6707]

Yeah you missed the mysteries man approaching the body of Lao.

[@somefxguy2005]

Instead of Mira being the Bionis, i like to think that the Bionis is Mira. What I mean by that is that Mira came first and brought about the Bionis. Think about this, When Klaus created Bionis, he obviously based the homs off humans. He based many fauna and flora off things from earth. Now where did he get the idea of the Telethia or Nopon then? He was inspired by what the human race found on Mira. It is highly possible that Klaus based the ecological system of the bionis off Mira. It's also possible that Mira brought forth the creation Alvis since it primarily uses ether as the building block of creation which seems to be a substance that exists and is used by the planet Mira.

[@fluffys95]

+SomeFXguy heres a blog twist * zanza comes back * that would be a shock haha

[@monadoboy9639]

Yeah the bionis and mechanism do resemble the skells used by the humans and the prone it's possible these two titans were built by the prone and humans in order to fight one another and millions of years later bionis now houses the humans because maybe it's more sustainable :D

[@jakewoods6721]

Plus, x could be taking place at the same time as xenoblade, on the same or different planets

[@israelcrafts25]

hey thats the exact same theory I have, I wanted to post it on You Tube but I didn't have the equipment to do it. But good video! :)

[@Hammy900]

Sometimes I just wonder what the actually HECK are the Nopon doing on Mira. Now it all makes sence. And it gives me a feeling that Nintendo was purposely trying to make 1 and X in the same universe.

[@lunay6753]

maybe those ruins in cauldros were sword valley

[@Kapsb]

Hi, could you tell me the name of the theme that plays when you're talking about Theletias?

[@TheGamerGurls]

+Francesco Orlando Turco So nah, so fern (Lao's Theme) ;)

[@Kapsb]

+Shadow - Resho Gaming Thank you indeed :)

[@nimbusgarde1512]

+Shadow - Resho Gaming "So nah so fern" is german :D

[@urielvalencia5856]

Just came across this video.. really good analysis! I really hope we get a XCX2!

[@matfhju]

The homs are the semarians that luxxar mentiond at the end of the game

[@Hammy900]

Wait at 12:53 Nopon are in the 2nd game, does that mean 2 and 1 take place in the same universe as well, and that their were more than 2 titans even in the first game?! My head is melting!!!!

[@justnope5358]

all xeno games are conneted and happen at the same time shulk and rex events happen at the same time and alvis , mythra and malos are all kin malos and mythra are in xeno 2 and alvis is in the 3ds game

[@justnope5358]

and xenoblade x is the world where shulks world and those who are on rex`s one may meet there are cat like beings in x which must be kin from those gormotti in xeno2 and the telethia and macha are from shulks world

[@BurstFlare]

9:26 Yeah, 2 lightyears away. Light can travel *extremely* far in one year. 12:42 Funny how the idea of that being the only way gets blasted to bits by the very next game.

[@tugaygunes4816]

At the beginning in x we learned that only a few ships made it alife from earth.... Maybe zanzas original self was once a human, then fleed with his group of scientist or so and boom, the same universe.... But thats maybe a little too far fetched

[@joseferrerjr2710]

Everyone got to know more in Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Bionis and Mechonis are not on Mira, they're on Elysium