Birth of the US national security state (with historian Aaron Good)

A discussion of the creation of Washington's national security state and the rise of US exceptionism.
This is PART 3 of the Empire and the Deep State series Multipolarista editor Benjamin Norton is co-hosting with historian Aaron Good and producer Seamus McGuinness of the American Exception podcast.
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[@joylarson9040]

I've watched it happen, no one would believe me. Thank you for putting my life into words.

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

This is excellent. These history lessons are very much appreciated. Thank you.

[@joecool3332]

Foriegn policy is always future domestic policy

[@danintheoutback1]

If the economic elite & government is willing to kill hundreds of thousands of people overseas… then they are not above killing hundreds of thousands of their own citizens, if their own self interests demand it. If they are willing to kill them, then they willing to kill you…

[@likuidmethod]

That’s the story of all empires

[@jdpartyhat4067]

Abby Martin introduced me to the concept of dollar hegemony via her Empire Files channel. I believe I found Multipolarista via Abby Martins' Channel too.

[@VirgoAtheist0971]

The Grayzone is a great group of truth seekers, and Abby is a beast! Love her! She’s super hot too!

[@davepuxley7387]

I found Ben through the Grayzone, but I found them through Abby Martin, so transitive property for the win, Ms Martin!

[@lefty4letty]

abby is anti denazification.

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@VirgoAtheist0971 Who created US dollar hegemony and why?

[@GeopoliticalEconomyReport]

Abby is a great friend and I love the Empire Files! I'm very happy to be associated with her

[@gabagool44]

This series is so good

[@longyou8254]

Great analysis, great guest

[@justice.freedom.mankind]

Another Amazing lesson that We learned, as usual! Thank you very much to all (in particular, to Ben for the initiative) for this great opportunity to learn more about the Deep State & its security!

[@MundaSquire]

Educate to agitate. Agitate to legitimate. Legitimate to overtake. This is how we'll make change. Thanks.

[@markunderwood8837]

Excellent, looking forward to the next episode, thank you!

[@lortega70]

What a great series, I can’t believe I had missed this for two years! What a great contribution to geopolitical understanding, guys, thank you!

[@bobramsay4355]

Good job guys !

[@kateoneal4215]

Excellent history lesson!!! THANKYOU SOOI MUCH!!!

[@ronunderwood5771]

“The Puzzle Palace” by James Bamford pub 1982. Excellent history of the NSA. “Who Financed Hitler” pub I think 1977. Painstaking research by a husband and wife team of financial historians.

[@omshanti4982]

Excellent leacture. Would be good in podcasts. Thank you.

[@sarahali6413]

Thank you 🙏 for yet another brilliant episode . Eye opener, informative & insightful . 🕊

[@Guitarpima]

Empire is easy to figure out. People want to dominate you. They offer you freedom. You are free to be dominated. You give them permission to do this.

[@tylerdurden3537]

Have u read Thomas Hobbes leviathan? His conjectures on state power it's origins and it's antithesis' are interesting and even though dated still quite relevant.

[@skylaindigoink2013]

I love this series…it would definitely better if these segments were numbered…

[@matthewnewberry7275]

You should have put part numbers on the video titles.

[@nycboogie]

You really ought to include Seamus McGinnis in the description, Ben

[@VirgoAtheist0971]

Thank you! Was looking for his name!

[@lefty4letty]

yes. i love him.

[@ashm3697]

Excellent series

[@glynnismacpherson504]

I am enjoying these history lessons, three clear, knowable minds. Thankyou

[@fnwa-okobia6077]

"In January 1961, six months after independence, Lumumba was murdered in Katanga. On February 13, officials in Katanga announced his death, but with a story so fishy that almost no one believed it. Furious protests took place around the world. In a blistering denunciation the Soviet Union blamed the imperial powers and asked that the United Nations leave the Congo. The Soviets demanded the resignation of the Swedish secretary-general of the UN, Dag Hammarskjöld, whom they saw as the chief henchman of the colonialists. Predictably, people marched in Moscow, but the largest crowd, of over one hundred thousand, assembled in Beijing, China. Perhaps predictably too, demonstrators grabbed headlines in Africa and Asia: Casablanca in Morocco; Khartoum in Sudan; Accra in Ghana; Bombay and New Delhi in India; Karachi in Pakistan; and Colombo in Sri Lanka." "Death in the Congo: Murdering Patrice Lumumba" by Emmanuel Gerard -

[@NocturnalDoom]

Thank you 🙏

[@vtbluzplyr]

Great discussion on the hidden nature of reality. Tech tip: invest in better mics.

[@ralfmatters448]

I love this series, as an Australian, an Indigenous continent colonized by the Brits, slowly taken over by the US, sometimes referred to as the 51 state of the US of A, it is curious to me, the tenor of your discussion, as if this hegemony 'should not be so.' It is so import that the crimes of 'our' corporations and state institutions are documented and very slowly learned from... not in my lifetime! We are a long way from co-operative internationalism, which will still have conflict and corruption but I think there will be fewer deaths and a cooler globe through US empire than, Russian Empire, Chinese Empire or Iranian Theocracy. As impotent, as the opposition to the hegemony in the Western aligned powers is, it is more alive than in the other Empires above. All empires say they are one thing: Democratic, Just and Peaceful but are frequently the opposite. The world got wealthier going off the gold standard, the US the most, but the step away from constructing value from a commodity like gold means we are a step closer to constructing value upon things that really matter, like saving the environment, bringing up children with sufficient love and resources, enhancing human capacity... It has to start somewhere. I'm glad you can discuss and educate us in this criminal history of US power but let us not pretend, that there exist a better group of humans who would not make similar tragedies as us Westerners are making.

[@jcjcviews]

I want to salute you three young, blokes. Viewing videos about class in England brings to mind the major problems we're having in this "country" empire. I dare say that the greatest members of our population have no Earthly idea about what class is. I believe for them class is defined in this sort of way based on the kind of clothes you wear and the car you drive. If you have no car, well, you have no class. That kind of thing. Knowing you fellows are going to be around for quite a while, lets me know, being my age, that understanding the fundamentals about reality may very well be preserved. Salute!

[@crescentprincekronos2518]

Dammit Mr. Norton, you are shattering my history 😂😂 great job young sir

[@liamporter1137]

Well said.

[@kosmosfaber6534]

Guess, you didn't cut it after all, Ben 😀

[@notrueflagshere198]

This regime does not cancel debts. Debts are holy.

[@rodgerasai]

Unless they are to Businesses for Covid "relief".

[@notrueflagshere198]

@@rodgerasai Well, yeah. They cancel their own debts.

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@notrueflagshere198 Debts are leverage. They will never erase debts only reimagine payments through inflation.

[@jackshultz2024]

I’ve. Read that back in the 1930’s, when you bought a Ford motorcar, you received with it a free copy of “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” as part of Henry Ford’s efforts to spread fears about Jews.

[@posmoo9790]

28:00 this is a very incomplete recitation of history. FDR wanted to fight in ww2 to save the British and French Empires so the United States could take them over. So when Japan was GIVEN basing rights to the colony of Inodchina by Vichy France FDR freaked out because that was going to be his colony and so he embargoed Japan from the entire world market of everything. Japan didn't attack indochina. Eventually they would fight the Vietnamese freedom fighters who the USA would start to arm. Cordell Hull, FDR's right hand man and an inveterate racist who constantly said the japanese were congenitally incapable of honesty, refused to even negotiate with Japan until the withdrew from all of Asia. Everything. Then they would be willing to set up a meeting with Hirohito and FDR. If you knew anything about Japan at the point the political government was one of the least aggressive part of the society. If Hirohito withdrew from Asia the young officer corps would have overthrown and killed him. So as Hull and FDR knew they would force Japan had to attack the dutch east indies and in order to be safe from American intervention they would also attack the philipines. Hull and FDR deliberately put the Japanese govt in a position where they either would be mudreed by their own amry or where they would fight the americans. Totally intentional. it was the plan. The Japanese couldn't wait and keep trying to negotiate because they only had 6 months of oil left when FDR cut them off (every European nation followed FDR in the embargo, so every oil colony across the world was now unavailable to the Japanese).

[@WanderingGinko]

You should do your own podcast man that's some serious analysis

[@elmersbalm5219]

The first assertion is all over the place. It’s always hard to prove intent. Can you elaborate on your theory regarding FDR’s intent? Taking advantage of unfolding events is basic bread-and-butter geopolitics. If FDR was interested in reforming the colonial system then it made sense to tackle the colonies of old Europe. Roping in your political enemies to do your work is a well understood strategy. To me it looks like the domestic colonial interests managed to neutralise FDR.

[@posmoo9790]

@@elmersbalm5219 FDR published the atlantic charter, the declaration of the new world order that would be installed after the united states won the war, 6 months before pearl harbor.

[@elmersbalm5219]

@@posmoo9790 I fail to see a nefarious intent from FDR’s side. Churchill was an irredentist who wanted to claw back the Glorious Empire. The deep state in the US made sure to turn whatever was good in the charter into yet another cudgel for American exceptionalism. No institution survives pecuniary interests of powerful actors.

[@posmoo9790]

@@elmersbalm5219 FDR wanted to control the british and french colonies the way they are controlled now. financially, bringing their leaders to be taught in america, making them into liberal parasites like themselves with no allegiance to anyone but their fellow rich people so they would then sell out their own countries, they resources, so they would sacrifice their own people in the their lust for wealth. you don't think it's nefarious when two countries set out a plan to control the entire world, because they said they'd only do sweet things with the power? lmao. what were they gonna say? yes we intend to rape your resources and people in a more opaque way.

[@edmoods]

Are you guys, Ben and American Exception on Reddit?

[@dandilion62]

My family's bread and butter.....my Dad was a pentagon apparatchik.

[@aion5837]

The problem of power.

[@rochelleglickman8162]

Does that mean that we should only vote for those who are independently wealthy?

[@colettechausser7879]

No more voting. No more tax payments.

[@donHooligan]

Convict # 9653 For President ....says it all.

[@tuckerbugeater]

Trumpers are idiots. Trump was obviously black mailed by Epstein and Rothschild banker Wilbur Ross.

[@kateoneal4215]

Carrion crows commin' home to roost!

[@patri153]

❤❤❤

[@Dan-DJCc]

There is but one principle of our liberal democracy, survival of the rich, for they are by their own definition the most fit.

[@waltdill927]

BTW: We have rather moved on beyond the quaintness of "dollar" anything. Perpetual debt is the current global standard, and expectation.

[@jlwann9584]

Will you talk at some point about Strategic Air Command and also the US Electronic Warfare Hall of Fame. My father was inducted in 1986 or 1987. Every inductee was discussed and the reason they were inducted was given. But when they got to my father the reason was said to be classified. Been Curious ever since.

[@sejnb1]

The U.S./Wall Street Nazi connection from WWII is most relevant to the U.S.'s current NATO NAZI alliance.

[@Jiidwag]

Yes they are!!! Nazis, White Supremacy, Colonialism, Imperialism, Exploitation of the poor, Oligarchy, Tyranny, Genocide, White Bubble, and AmeriKKKan Exceptionalism have always gone hand in hand in post Roman history

[@davidwilkie9551]

The big Reveal, "There's no such thing as a Military Meathead". Evil is evil.

[@gregoryallen0001]

no one cares lol but i've been calling it the CORPORATE INTELLIGENCE STATE 💁‍♀️

[@vincetagleoficiar2860]

👍❤️

[@COURRUPTIONCOIN]

... .. ... ......... ... .... .. .......' Hey kid . . ...

[@billesommer4636]

Did I miss the part about A Dulles living in st. Moritz Swiss the home of the Bildenberg group where he met with his pal Lenin??!

[@mjmatteo]

Read: Selling Free Enterprise: The Business Assault On Labor And Liberalism 1945-1960 by Elizabeth A. Fones-Wolf

[@matthewmezgersr6591]

Listen to “The MMT Podcast” and read Stephanie Kelton’s book “The Deficit Myth”

[@AbcDef-iq4no]

The people at the top operate as a group/thinktank and are currently utilizing a playbook written by Zbigniew Brzezinski in the 80s and during the Clinton administration, including the chemtrail program. So, to understand the chemtrail program you have to think like a thinktank, which only implements programs that have many arms, like a spider web. For instance, the chemtrail program accomplishes the following: it affects weather in western states including California, Oregon and Idaho to cause wildfires, it makes a lot of money for the makers of the chemicals being sprayed (Monsanto and Bayer), and it works beautifully to frighten people to the point that they are too afraid to ask what is going on with our skies being sprayed to look like tic-tac-toe games. The wildfires drive enourmous profits because the people in the know who are behind the chemtrail program can hedge the stock market on commodities such as lumber to rebuild fire-ravaged areas. In other words the wildfires are being used to make billions upon billions in stock market profits in the same manner as inside information.

[@icarium6031]

What’s the difference between fascism and corporatocracy?

[@blackfreud9048]

You aren’t mentioning the importance of the atom bomb as the “big stick!” It wasn’t all slick talk.

[@gregorylumpkin2128]

Why do you need a security state when the state is already secure? 💥💣 $$$

[@Guitarpima]

At 24 minutes, you mention Henry Ford and something about Zion. What is he talking about?

[@infiniteinfiniteinfi]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion#United_States

[@kosmosfaber6534]

Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a pamphlet written and distributed by the Tsarist's secret police propagading that Communism was a Jewish world conspiracy. These protocols were spread all over the world, inter alia, to Hitler (by Alfred Rosenberg) and Henry Ford.

[@ronunderwood5771]

Henry Ford was virulently anti-Semitic. The reference is to a very nasty book “ The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”. You will find plenty

[@sf6199]

✔️

[@rcmrcm3370]

👍✊

[@tylerrose7583]

Crazy to me how many things that are common place in America all go back to wall street 😂

[@marcdunord]

strange that the transitions from continental-colonial to pacific-colonial to WS-centric imperialism get not even a word... Was the US ruled by improvisers before NYC's rise?! :O PS. latin americans started denouncing the US' racist pro-european imperialism below north america already in the early 1800s and haiti's liberte' was targeted by jefferson already....

[@callmeishmael3031]

Do evil people ever not rule over us?

[@jazzypoo7960]

Comment.

[@jetromauro1057]

Don't be so hard on Seamus he is being groomed by the big guns,tanx for the show Ben big ups guys

[@blackfreud9048]

Oligarchs always bet on BOTH sides…..always

[@erictaylor8951]

Tripartite the Church the King the Mob 3 ringz for the Elven kingz

[@Дорогаяумрао]

Страна ГУ вера и Маккарти.

[@batman4329]

The democrat and RINOS

[@pavilionator]

😼

[@wolfsden3]

V0te L1bertarian n00bs 💯🔥🔥🔥💪

[@tuckerbugeater]

Who gave the Soviets nuclear weapons?

[@danintheoutback1]

Actually, a Russian spy stole the plans of the USSR’s first nuke & it went on from there. Although the U.S. helped the British & the French to get the bomb.

[@jazzypoo7960]

I'm glad they got them.

[@rcmrcm3370]

Gave? Someone gave you Soviet nuclear weapons. Wow. Did you give them underage girls in return?

[@colettechausser7879]

Well, like a lot of countries like the US and Israel, they took in nazis.

[@Marryatau]

Japan and Germany both under direction of the USA