‘Bit of a sham’: Adequate consultation on the Voice referendum ‘never happened’

[@normanmazlin6741]

The ignorance, apathy and greed of those who are willing to trash our Constitution makes me a little ashamed of my Countrymen.

[@justjoe942]

Feeling the same here in the U.S.

[@goldenautumn3073]

As has been felt in New Zealand, Canada and presently proceeding also in the U.K. This is a communist/socialist agenda.

[@ianenglish123]

Trash a constitution that makes King Charles head of state. A constitution that required the approval of British parliament. Yep I would had to see a constitution approved by antiquated imperialists changed at all.

[@taswr]

Vote NO to the voice & Vote NO to Labor in the next election.

[@Want0nS0up]

A substantial portion of labor voters are voting no to the voice.

[@margarethennessey5182]

Sure will. Never received mine yet. If it doesn’t come I’ll get a fine. Won’t be parliament ing it. I have the number wouldn’t want to vote twice.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

Total arrogance from Albanese to think that he could change the constitution without any explanation or consultation .

[@netsurfer3655]

He's a politician, and it's a vanity project gone horribly wrong. Should never have even seen the light of day.

[@LovelyLass-nb8op]

More worrying is the high court going along with it

[@normanmazlin6741]

The ignorance, apathy and greed of those who are willing to trash our Constitution makes me a little ashamed of my Countrymen.

[@Want0nS0up]

@@LovelyLass-nb8op The High Court were dribbling with anticipation of more power to play God with our lives.

[@mariafewster4127]

He thinks , we are all, as dilly as he is.

[@flyonthewalltheatre]

Albo is both responsible and accountable for this debacle through his deceit and dishonesty. $350mill wasted on this ridiculous referendum! VOTING NO!!

[@kilburn1313]

That figure $350 million was just a guestamate....sorry, inflation, the war & Trump, you know.....oh & Putins fault too

[@davidjohn8589]

Albo is doing the voice for his own gratification

[@patrickwakefield2297]

albo would have to be the most slimy politician ever to make prime minister, he has got to go, vote no to him and the voice.

[@jemzargo]

Hope it sinks his political career

[@Fran-r4u]

They underpaid Stolen Wages to Indigenous Peoples by over $360 million, did this $$$$ go to assist Ukraine which is on the other side of the world ???? Huge shortage !!!!!!!? We all NOT that DUMB NOR BLIND....

[@awc900]

Just vote this thing down and move on. People more important concerns.

[@jamesgowing3856]

It is quite clear that something underhand is going on in regards to the Voice. Noel Pearson keeps saying he has spent 15 years working on the voice and yet the parliament doesn't have proposed legislation for the voice established. In fact the legislation will be worked out later. Albo is trying to pull the wool over Australian voters. Vote NO!!!

[@robertproietti-ricci6403]

VOTE NO .....AND VOTE NO ANYTHING LABOR DOES AND SAYS

[@netsurfer3655]

What consultation would have been necessary? It's painfully clear that this proposal is divisive and racist. How could anyone, aside from the Aboriginal industry, ever consider this as something worth discussing let alone voting on? The plain fact of the matter is that Australians should all be treated the same regardless of ethnicity and origins.

[@Bulldoggy-v3c]

love it mate the aboriginal industry that fwarking says it all :)

[@bobbetterman]

"Aboriginal industry" is exactly what it is. The idiot PM is too stupid to realise this.

[@derekjparnell]

"Australians should all be treated the same regardless of ethnicity and origins" - absolutely spot on! So, why aren't we already doing that now?

[@goldenautumn3073]

Well, the 'voice' debacle is the only thing that has stopped it! The aboriginals ALREADY have full Constitutional rights, including Parliamentary representation, as ALL Australians have! So why has this even been raised by no less than our 'democracy-serving' (I don't think!) PM?

[@johnmu7034]

We need a big audit to trace where all this money already spent has gone. I voted No

[@Conky769]

Criminal behaviour from Communist activists

[@kilburn1313]

Mayo's comments alone should be enough for any one to decide its NO

[@batmanlives6456]

Sums it up beautifully!!!

[@lappo2534]

Sham? Mabey. SCAM? DEFINITELY.

[@kaynine31]

At least we now know who to trust and who to NOT TRUST. It's all been exposed now - thank you.

[@edwin5419]

The intention will be read as narrowly or as broadly as the High Court decides. Do we really want to leave it in the hands of the judges?

[@goldenautumn3073]

Not with what even High Court judges have been so recklessly deciding for a 3% minority group just lately. Imo this stinks to high Heaven. Surely it constitutes treachery against our country and Constitution? At the very least it's mob rule mentality and sheer tyranny!

[@WitchDoctor-m9s]

Hope it is Challenged in the High Court and Albonzo then gets Tried for Treason.

[@goldenautumn3073]

Hear hear.

[@Luke_chux]

If i was old enough to vote, id be voting in my language. "Heeell nahh"

[@davidjohn8589]

Australia just remember if the voice gets up Australia Day is gone Linda Burney has all ready said that it is gone and maybe the name of Australia and that is just the start State Reserves could be called sacred ground that means only Aboriginal people aloud on the land not us and things like Royal Children Hospital name change or anything with royal in it gone so for the love of Australia VOTE NO

[@cheekong08]

Amending the constitution is a big thing. Why is there so little consultation?

[@baddaddy8718]

This is to take our private property off us home owners

[@goldenautumn3073]

And MUCH worse.

[@pisces89]

Australia’s collective gut says No

[@farangutan6773]

A YES vote will affect all taxpaying Australians , consultations, reparations , compensations ,treaties, high court decisions , lawyers , bureaucrats , politicians .Taxpayers will be paying for all involvement in the process . VOTE NO .

[@goldenautumn3073]

And all of this just to 'give the aborigines a' voice in Parliament' - which our PRESENT Constitution already guarantees they have? Yeah, right!

[@ShillingEntertainment]

Vote No

[@kevinsmith3671]

Simply WRITE NO. I have just came off a24 hour suspension so keep posting for the NO VOTE but Be AWARE. WRITE NO in BIRO

[@lilatan639]

No from WA

[@kaynine31]

This idea is very silly and ludicrous and should never have even been considered. It has no substance or value, except for those with their hands held out for $$$$$$.

[@rapscallion9333]

Consultation is not Labor's strong point, VTP, renewables over farmland,offshore wind, indigenous heritage laws,

[@tracer7898]

It is not, they just hand out our taxes to parasites

[@KatharineShaw-z8u]

What a shameful campaign this has been. Albo, msm, big business, celebrities, academics, elites, and radicals have all done their best to cancel out any opposition to the YES vote by insulting the intelligence of the average Aussie. Yet despite all this 60% of Aussies are in the NO camp.

[@vincentberg1069]

It is hard if not impossible to state it in short words better than Senator Price : "Australia should be united together as one, not divided by race. The proposed new ‘Voice’ in parliament is divisive and dangerous - it will only push Australian apart. Take action to keep Australians united!" We should never have any 'treaties' based on racial, ethnic and historical divisions. These differences can be rather mutually enriching and uniting Australians, if they are cultural differences of people with absolutely equal social and political rights. Otherwise, these differences could mutate into means of destructive divisions! Throughout human history, the face of the entire world has always been changing: its ethnic groups, countries, borders, etc. Many of these changes have been unjust as they resulted from conflicts, violence, local and world wars, and crimes against humanity. We need to constantly learn from our history that not to create new injustices. One of such lessons suggests that we must not attempt to heal committed injustices by new injustices. Our history shows that any attempt to reverse established historical reality turns into injustice. In case of our country Australia, it is not possible to heal historical wounds of Indigenous people by giving them a special constitutional status and rights, or even 'sovereignty'. More than 26 millions Australians should not be discriminated compared to less than a million Indigenous people. We need to find just and really democratic ways of efficiently addressing their issues. Injustice cannot be healed by injustice! With full respect to Indigenous people and regrets of what happened to them in the colonial past, we all still have to realize that the historical reality is that Australian nation consists now of people from many ethnic and cultural backgrounds. The Indigenous people group is not the biggest one and not the one, which made the biggest contribution into creating of modern Australia. Anyway, regardless of that, under no circumstances it is a good idea to try to reverse history, as it would mean racism and discrimination towards majority of people in Australia, which are not responsible at all for our colonial past. We need to strongly condemn colonial crimes and atrocities but accept historical reality and have really democratic society, where we all should be absolutely equal in our rights. No one, including Indigenous people, should have any special privileges regardless of their background and history. It is why I am against Voice and any specific ethnic and/or racial 'treaties' but strongly for really democratic Australian republic where every person would be absolutely equal in their rights.

[@lesliesepssy9222]

Vote Albo out NOW! What else he might come out with in the next three years?!

[@rightsaidfred803]

I would suggest most people have made up their mind by now. History says the “undecideds” will lean toward No. Even a 50/50 split of Undecideds gives No campaign a comfortable win based on current polls. And yes would still need to win 4 states for double majority. That’s a tough ask when WA and QLD are heavily leaning toward No.

[@paulgraham5790]

The darkest time in Australia’s history is upon us. There is a reason why events become history and that reason is there is a time to move on. We are dragging this back up and the truth has little to do with any of it.

[@goldenautumn3073]

It's part of the present globalist socialist/communist WOKE takeover, and our lives won't be worth living if it's voted in - remembering also that it CANNOT be reversed once in, which of course any MP and certainly a PM, would well know. But tell the voters that? No way!

[@alliswell2114]

Taxpayers give $30B annually for 984,000 people (3.8% of the population) • Expenditure per person in 2012-13 was $43,449 on Indigenous Australian compare to $20,900 on other Australians a ratio of 2.08 to 1 and increase from 1.95 in 2009. 3,278 Aboriginal corporations • 243 Native title bodies • 48 Land councils • 35 Regional councils • 122+ Aboriginal agencies • 3 Advisory bodies • 145 Health Organisations • 11 Indigenous Federal MPs • 12 Culturally important Indigenous days • Senator Price says Australian taxpayers spend at least $100 million a day on direct support for Indigenous Australians. Every year $39.5 billion of direct government expenditure every single year. The figures are based on the 2017 Indigenous Expenditure Report produced by the Productivity Commission. Issues of racial and social injustices are hardly ousted by elevating and heightening race (cultural identification, credentials). Especially on a political level, but also within the wider community. NO NO

[@Mman-d2v]

I'm voting NO because I can't afford to loose my job and pay more tax to validate someone's feelings.

[@Caitness1]

Bringing black biro, voting No because I believe it is best for all Australians.🇦🇺

[@maricelmatias908]

And what about the billions of dollars that will be required for the pensions of these Aborignal legislators and amid the skyrocketing grocery prices, mass homelessness, unaffordable rents/house prices etc causing rampant theft and even abandonment of their pets and not to mention parents having to eat only twice a day so their children can eat three times a day;

[@kerravon4159]

What matters _DON'T_ relate to indigenous people?

[@farangutan6773]

exactly , all matters relate to indigenous people and we the taxpayer will be paying more so they are treated separately .

[@goldenautumn3073]

@@farangutan6773 Which of course amounts to discrimination, which Alborigine and Labor claim they are against!

[@jolla9963]

Did someone expect Albo to follow the law? Really?.....

[@FlixMr]

Albanese needs to be held accountable for an abuse of power and process

[@Brennan_Dale3169]

Big Al's used cars, trust me.

[@Barney_Rubble247]

😆😆

[@colleenrichards5662]

Yeh, and Albaqueasy is the dodgy used car salesman…

[@chuckmaddison2924]

The situation Aboriginals find themselves in is because of their choices. A yes vote won't change that. I vote NO

[@cherylblechynden2048]

Simple, why don’t these leaders go to the disadvantaged communities and sort the needs out , that what the money was for.

[@susanmurphy8853]

Wouldn't the Constitution limit the power of The Voice?

[@ThaMassDebater]

In Julian Lessers speech at the Sydney Institute the other day, he was asked how the voice would help indigenous Australian battling rheumatoid health conditions. He responded by telling us how that through consultation at grassroots level they have made pathways in other health objectives. Well Mr Leeser, those improvements that you have witnessed have come without the need for a voice body to parliament. These measures towards improvement have been achieved through consultation and legislation. Why do we need a body in the constitution, on the same level as the parliament and executive, only for people of a certain ethnicity, when you clearly explained that great outcomes are occuring without the voice. Historically maligned groups such as women have achieved better outcomes through consultation and legislation. Why wouldn't a bi-partisan body outside the constitution be as effective? The notion that anyone should be treated differently because of their genetics, is the basis of racism.... 🤦

[@goldenautumn3073]

I think their answer would be, if they were halfway HONEST, that this is a quest for ULTIMATE CONTROL of Australia, not any 'plea for help for the aborigines with 'no voice' in Parliament. I cannot BELIEVE anyone wouldn't realise that our Constitution provides the EXACT SAME rights, services and privileges to ALL Australians, INCLUDING the aborigines! That's what Constitutions of democracies are compiled to provide! There never therefore was any NEED to have this idiocy even considered, for they ALREADY have the exact same Parliamentary rights of representation as every other Australian does!

[@howunacceptibleofme2145]

You better stop making sense or it's of to the re education camp for you ....

[@gordiebrooks]

So we could also have a 2 tier justice system depending if you are indigenous or not !!

[@MB-qo7ru]

I am neither racist nor stupid (Marcia). I am not a dinosaur nor a dickhead (Ray). I have done my homework (thoroughly) and I will be voting NO!

[@maricelmatias908]

Talk about Albanese/Labor getting their priorities right, as if Aussies do not know the antics that already elected legislators have been busy, from sexual harassment/abuse of women, men, and even children while at work,

[@mclanaford2957]

He Albo joined the Communist party in 1983.

[@maricelmatias908]

Gosh, have Albanese/Labor know how will Australian taxpayers pay for the hundreds of millions of dollars required on creating another class of entitled legislators, albeit of Aboriginal ancestry?

[@maricelmatias908]

to engaging in pornography, to all sorts of rorts from holidaying in expensive cruises with lovers, renting their own wives’ properties, etc ad nauseaum, agree?

[@maricelmatias908]

And as if Aussies have not had enough of citizens claiming to be Aborignal such as in Highway/Border patrol such as the white as snow dual Israeli citizen protesting to officers that “Australian laws do not hold sway over them and they are sovereign”, right?

[@maricelmatias908]

What’s next for a “Voice” parliamentarian to legislate that Aboriginals are exempt from paying taxes; complete with an angst ridden speech and tears as well as dressed in loin cloth to shock and get media mileage, is that it?

[@frankm6110]

of course it is, has he actually done anything that wasn't a sham or a ruse to line certain pockets???

[@christineoneill9749]

what's the prime Minster saing why dosent he get up front with the citizens of Australia . the constitution is quite clear on this matter any one who was born in Australia is a citizen of dearfor he has the right to be the prime minister of Australia and that includes the aboriginal ware the constitution is quite clear on this matter it makes refence to all citizen's and that includes the aboriginal who hade a voice in the parment we had a representative in the parment an aboriginal his name was Neville Bonner he was a spokesman for the all citizens and that include the aboriginal because the constitution dosent have the word's aboriginal or indigenous dosent mean that there not included in the constitution as thay we born in Australia thay automitatticly have the same right's as all citizens so this referendum is quite clear a waste of time and money . I know what I'm talking about because I know the constitution of Australia like my ony name ? so why dosent the prime minister get real and study the constitution if I can do it he can God bless Australia 🇦🇺💛👈

[@rhyno1740]

Maybe they should do something about the Aboriginal youth crime in NT, It's getting out of hand.

[@goldenautumn3073]

Alborigine is so tunnel-visioned on getting this idiocy pushed through he doesn't have time to govern this country or attend to its needs - imo, he's a malignant narcissist intent on installing HELL into our Constitution. If the LNP were working, they'd be calling on his removal from office. HIS 'disinformation' a.k.a. blatant lies and DECEIT, is nothing but an APPALLING DISGRACE. THIS is how a Labor government 'works'.

[@RoseWhite99]

True. We need more time to access the implications of the Voice from different perspective. For now, I will have to remain No until I have more information to re-access.

[@nwodestruction3903]

No consultation?? Really? I never would have guessed. Perhaps nothing but empty rhetoric and hollow celebrity platitutes may have been a clue.

[@cameronjohnston5748]

I wonder what happened to the liberals on this matter? Just as guilty by their silence.

[@goldenautumn3073]

Yes - equally concerning, especially as Dutton's amazing first reaction was to advise he'll set up yet another exhorbitantly expensive referendum on the same subject! The only SAFE way for Australia is to get RID of this UNBELIEVABLY treacherous, divisive and dangerous agenda - for ALL time.

[@robertnelson1526]

Aldo might be looking for a new job how about a zoo keeper vote NO save the constitution

[@anthonywood323]

Regardless, this will go thro whether we, the people, do not want it. This Government harkens back to Bob Hawke and other communist/Marxist aficionados' who view the Aboriginals as some exclusive individuals.

[@goldenautumn3073]

They're just a pawn in the game of obtaining control of our CONSTITUTION! And it follows the AGENDA currently being pushed globally. If we don't stop it here now, Australia WILL become a socialist/communist dictatorship.

[@mr2981]

There should be a law that any vote for changing the constitution has to be on the specific, written changes in question, what is does, what it doesn't do, etc. Not just the 'idea'. That is the only way you will know exactly what you are voting on.

[@daisyflower4105]

Albasleezy just wanted to bulldoze this through.

[@AustralianLady1]

There is no excuse that the tax payers have not been told the truth about what has happened to the Billions of dollars that was given to our Indigenous people. Or is it just another way for the Corporate Industry to get their hands back into the cookie jar for another share.

[@mclanaford2957]

We the People of AUSTRAliA must vote No IF we don’t we will lose our democracy forever more. IF YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY AND ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY VOTE NO AGAINST COMMUNISM.

[@2porangi]

Not sure which way to vote? Just vote the opposite to what the Murdoch press want you to vote!

[@EdOeuna]

I reckon they set it up to fail from the start, whilst giving the appearance that they’re trying hard to bring in the Voice.

[@johnhome5872]

Albo is right; it’s about the vibe. Drink the cordial, rev yourself up and join the referendum Mardi Gras.

[@christinecavanagh5906]

If you can't change the constitution, how can albanesse change what Bob hawke made sure went though

[@goldenautumn3073]

If you mean the 1967 change, that was simply the groundwork for THIS change, because ONE change to our Constitution sets a legal precedent where any other future changes can be simply added on! This socialist/communist PLAN, which few Australians know about, has been working subversively for many decades - GLOBALLY - as is now being evidenced worldwide. Just look at what's happened in NZ, Canada, and is happening in the UK and USA. ALL almost identical moves and destructive results! And what we've just witnessed in our own State of Victoria, imo confirms it. This is NOT a move to protect our rights and freedoms we've so far enjoyed - it will take Australia into communist DICTATORSHIP.

[@ianenglish123]

Wasnt Dutton and other LNP members invited to sit on committees, yes they were, in fact there was extensive consultation with the opposition, not that they had anything to contribute. Because they are the Noalition.

[@darylephillips6778]

The last horse Murdoch backed was called Scomo and it is still trying to Finnish the race .The same will happen with the horse called no

[@jamesgowing3856]

All sensible voters will see that Albo is a liar and the racist voice should be voted out. It's a big No for the majority of Australians

[@mikem9001]

Why do you despise indigenous people? Jacinta Price and Warren Mundine say, vote No, and demand an audit of the corrupt Aboriginal Welfare system.

[@goldenautumn3073]

This has nothing to do with Murdoch or Scomo, or any other individual: it's about stopping this threat to the rights and freedoms of all Australians - yours included, so the blinkers need to come off, I'm afraid.

[@darylephillips6778]

@@jamesgowing3856 That comment of yours alone is racist

[@jamesgowing3856]

@@darylephillips6778 You are the racist. Anyone that promotes a race based concept that puts one race above other races is a certified racist.