BixNAndy Vs. TriggerTech Triggers

[@seeker_007]

Dunning-Kruger effect in full force here. For those trying to learn: A. The Bix-n-Andy "overtravel" is very intentional. They started out in the benchrest world, it helps prevent influencing the rifle during follow through. B. What he's calling a trigger shoe is a trigger hanger. the shoe is the part that sticks out of the gun and you pull to yeet that Berger over the berm.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Being the guy who just has to say “well technically…” FYI no one likes that guy. A guy can’t make a simple mistake calling a hanger a shoe or whatever? You can’t just overlook that and move on? #petty If what you’re saying about the BA triggers is true, it’s not on their website that I could find. Also it doesn’t really make sense. A full stop at a wall after follow through would induce less potential error than a spongy over travel.

[@jimothy-johnson]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork He is correct that the overtravel is intentional and that is their reasoning for it. And that many people in the BR community would agree. BnA have said it in a bunch of videos and other stuff. The Tacsport Pro you're showing is being phased out for the Pro-X as well. Which isn't THAT big a change but I do think (?) the Pro-X has an overtravel spring opposing it to cushion it more if I recall right. As far as the creep goes, BnA say if your trigger has any creep something is either defective or the bottom sear hasn't been adjusted (not to be confused with the top sear you were talking about).

[@seeker_007]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork it’s not “well technically” it’s correcting misinformation.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@jimothy-johnson Thank you for a level headed response.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@seeker_007 cuz you're the freaking information police??? move on dude...i have no time for people who look for the tiniest mistake and have to make a big deal over it. Don't need the drama or the negativity. No thank you. Read Jimothy Johnson's response...that's an acceptable way to disagree with someone.

[@t3h8ar0n]

FYI - U.S. law prevents them from voiding the warranty merely because you opened to clean it. They can say it does all they want as a scare tactic, but in order to actually enforce, they would have to show that the fact that you opened it caused the issue you are making a warranty claim about (see the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975). As far as how to clean it without opening, I just blast it with chlorine free brake cleaner... works well.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Is that still valid if they’re a Canadian company?

[@t3h8ar0n]

@PrecisionRifleNetwork if the foreign company is purposefully availing themselves in the U.S. (as in, they willingly/actively participate in the U.S. market), then they are subject to it regardless of whether they are a foreign entity or not. If they are a strictly foreign entity, and their products are not officially sold in this market, then it wouldn't apply. It also won't protect non-U.S. consumers.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@t3h8ar0n thanks for the clarification

[@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote]

Thats good info bud. One of the best comments i read in awhile. Thanks

[@BrettThompson-b9y]

Hey I’m not a lawyer but I’d imagine if a huge million dollar company says it will void it I’d guess their lawyers can back it up😂

[@evernhamanderson]

Word on the street is that Hiperfire is releasing a target trigger for Model 700 platforms. Supposed to be less cost and super high performance.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Hmm guess we’ll see. I haven’t heard anything about it yet.

[@BoltActionsOnly]

Had a TT Diamond go down this past weekend. Hang fire issue that they issued warranty for. B&A ran fine for over 5000 rounds, im going back to it.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

bummer, I hate when stuff breaks.

[@BoltActionsOnly]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I think they are all prone to breaking over time, TT Diamond is a good one.

[@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote]

I can't say for prs but for 600yd and 1000yd competition benchrest i put a Bix'n and a Super Tuned Jewell that you take apart and polish all contact points and the inside of both plates above everything else for benchrest

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

sounds interesting. Honest question here though…can you really tell the difference between any number of different premium triggers when they are all set to 10oz or less?

[@BenchrestMarksman]

Sometimes it is necessary to get in and clean the trigger

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Agree, with certain triggers.

[@misterlewgee8874]

I've had 3 X tac sport pro 2 stage..the last one was the new.X version. The first one was perfect...lovely .. The second one ..tac sport pro 2 stage...would "click" with a spring noise when trigger pulled and not fire...until the safety was touched.. The Tac Sport Pro X 2 stage did the same. Scary. I followed advice and changed the sear over...same thing happened...only in the field .. This was very dangerous. I ended up with a triggertech green diamond 2 stage... which doesn't come with a bolt release. After 2x bix fails...on 2 different riffles...R700, I appreciate the many layers of safety the triggertech has. I'd prefer to have stayed with bix...but...firing the rifle with the safety after the trigger failed to fire it is a nightmare. The lack of over travel on the triggertech put me off...but...that's probably more of a theoretical thing..no over travel effecting poa etc as trigger hits hard stop... Only prob with triggertech diamond 2 stage ...so far...is that there is no bolt release for R700...this is easy to work around though..with a thin implement to manually push down the bolt release mechanism. I was probably the most unlucky person with the Bix. The first bix still works perfectly....

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

thanks for the comment and for watching.

[@misterlewgee8874]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork my pleasure..your video was a good idea..well done...

[@bryandexter7874]

Thanks for your efforts. Enjoyed the video.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@williamsweet7511]

I own two flavio triggers, two diamond TT, and a Bix'n Andy comp. The BnA is cool cause you can work on it. It sucks because they are always out of stock on the parts. If you buy one and the sear doesn't work, well, good luck getting a sear. The Flavio and the TT just work, right out of the box. No hate to BnA, they just need to keep the parts in stock. Which they've been out since last spring.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@nicholasp5817]

Ultrasonic parts cleaner? Would it be useful? I have a triggertech diamond in an AR-10 but I don't have enough rounds through it to be dirty. I have also heard of triggertech failures that I have not experienced.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

that's a fair question. I'm not sure is the answer unfortunately. I'm certain it could clean the trigger, but I'm not sure you want that solution inside your trigger. You'd have to make sure it got completely dried and potentially re-lubricated.

[@shaunoliverii8961]

Curious question! What do you think of the Huber triggers?!🤔🤔🤔

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I’ve never personally owned one. Sorry.

[@1clnsdime1]

The trigger tech is super easy to open. I cleaned min after 4krds, and it was perfectly clean.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Good to know!

[@Zegswijze]

I've had a Bix'n Andy on my Remington 700. It's ver light and crisp. But I noticed difficulties opening the bolt if that trigger is installed. At first I thought it was the ammo. Looked over everything and couldn't find the culprit. Until I changed back to the original trigger. No idea how a trigger could interfere with the opening of the bolt.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Seems strange. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Zegswijze]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork The only thing I can think of is the fact that my rifle was made when Remington was part of the Freedom group. So tolerances may be way off.

[@zachboor7541]

did you bend the trigger shoe? Also "creep" is taken out when the sear engagement is set correctly, currently right now you have to much engagement on your bottom sear engagement. Over travel is built in due to not influencing the rifle during recoil, you do not want to pull on to a firm wall.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thanks for the comment. 🤙

[@bradleytyrrell4417]

I shoot a bit n Andy Dakota trigger and its sweet as crisp and reliable I also shoot 3 trigger tech and they are almost as good but they are both sweet triggers

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Cool. Thanks for watching.

[@PassionforRifles]

I am waiting the TT trigger for a Tikka🤝🏻🤝🏻🤝🏻

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I agree. Would be awesome.

[@robbysreloadingroom]

@@PassionforRifles you and me both brother. A nice 3oz to 10oz single stage would be amazing.

[@PassionforRifles]

@@robbysreloadingroom i have never tested 3oz trigger yet😁

[@zachboor7541]

@@robbysreloadingroom bix'n andy already has that trigger out and is the best in the world for tikkas.

[@longrangevoodoo4480]

Hey bro. 00:34 Lol if it don't fit, do NOT force it. These are little grenades we are playing with.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Huh? Thanks for watching.

[@JasonVaughn-c7k]

I get how it’s nice to work on your trigger for a lot of people. But I hate working on them. The TT doesn’t ever need any work done. It’s built right.

[@long-range-eliminator]

I have a bix n andy in a fierce firearm, worst trigger ever . Never get the same pull everytime, and had 2 misfires !

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Dang that’s not good.

[@JasonVaughn-c7k]

@@long-range-eliminator ouch. That’s no good

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

TriggerTech is definitely my choice.

[@JasonVaughn-c7k]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork When I got my first one i immediately said out loud that this is the trigger I always wished existed. I prefer the 2 stage. Super light first stage. Solid wall And that break…….oh that clean break

[@KevinWood44]

Triggers have a back wall? I've never hit the back wall even once in my life 😇

[@bevans7772]

⁠ they do. It’s the limit of overall travel that extends past the breaking point. It’s hard to feel during live fire but very obvious during dry. For some people, it matters. Others, it doesn’t.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

👍 thanks for the comment

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thanks

[@KevinWood44]

@@bevans7772 I was making a sarcastic joke referring to my girlfriends back wall. Nevermind 🫣