Black Dragon Confirmed Out Bad BSMC???

Black Dragon woke up Wednesday July 5, 2024 only to see Instagram videos purporting he had been kicked out of the BSMC Nation by a trial of his peers. Black Dragon was unaware that he ever even had a trial. Two days later the club leaked a video from the National President, RideorDie calling him a liar and stating he was not associated with the club. Today he responds.
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[@ReginaldSheftall]

I'm a former member and Ex Vice President of one of the Chapters of the Black Sabbath MC Nation! And only reason that myself and the other members joined the Nation,was because of Black Dragon work that he did with the Black Sabbath MC Nation. And I support Black Dragon to the fullest.

[@angelsierra1988]

This whole thing just makes what's left of the club Look Like Shit !!! Anyone in the club that stands by and allows this to happen are all part of The Problem !!!!

[@juangonzales4189]

@@angelsierra1988 indeed

[@pb68slab18]

Ain't taking no side in this, but I thought a major club rule is members don't discuss club stuff in public? 🤔 Or on the internet.

[@mtorrez3694]

MANY BLESSING MY KING PPL DONT REALIZE THE WORK U PUTTING FOR ALL THESE YRS U A PILAR IN THE BIKE WORLD ...GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS

[@Bodie2020]

Well I haven’t watched the entire video. But seems at the beginning he isn’t a member of a club anymore doesn’t it?

[@javiermcmillan1461]

He's the president duhh he can do as he pleases

[@midwestprince153]

You are 100% correct... not speaking on BD situation but the club world as a whole is so comfortable discussing "Private" information! The bike world used to be a mystery to civilians unless you were there... we have lost that aspect smh

[@judas_cobane]

@@midwestprince153no one lost the aspect family… but you gotta realize we are in the *Age of information* and on a *Spiritual Level* even in the scriptures it says *Everything will be revealed* the times we are living in? *INFORMATION HAS TO COME OUT* this across the entire board! My name is *KXNG VAUGHN* and I approve this message 💪🏾 And the only reason the bike world was a mystery was because, there was *No Social Media* hell up until 2011 everything was fine… but that’s when everything changed 2011.

[@beekerakadjsnaxx6133]

in 46 years of being in and around the life.. I have NEVER >. not once... EVER seen or heard of a club putting out ANYTHING internal to the club. NEVER talk club business outside the club is rule #1, and always has been. BD is getting fucked over a power struggle

[@user-he9wr8iy6d]

This just goes to show what the caliber of member acceptance in this particular foolishness.. pardon me club...as for U Black Dragon, Salute to u sir! Your books were a heaven sent for me early on hell to this Very day.

[@PapaPenguin-kz7pq]

Didn’t a certain one of the big 5 clubs put out a bunch of internal business about a member/former member (little Dave) a couple of years ago? It seems like a lot of loose lips all around.

[@beekerakadjsnaxx6133]

@@PapaPenguin-kz7pq If they did, I don't recall hearing or seeing it.

[@btoso32]

this is why im not rocking a club. bunch of woman parts. always drama. I'm not about it.

[@JayBirdNJ.]

This sounded like a power struggle from the get go. Young bucks trying to take over and push the OGs to the back. Dudes can be catty and dramatic, it's not just the ladies.

[@johnc.6645]

When I go to u-tube I take in your show. As a original member of an MC that only had one chapter and now has chapters all over the USA and Europe, I consider you an asset to the MC world. I don't agree with everything you say, but what you do enhances the MC world. I wish you the best Brother.

[@JustGKue]

Aint no damn way.....leaked docs? Man stop....30plus years...representing the club...positive stuff and an investigation for 10 years and now this is what they saying? Mannnnn. Cut it out smh

[@clintonlunn4357]

BSMC is in no rush to take down BD's content from its FB page.

[@raymondbispham6588]

Black Dragon... I came across your channel several years ago when you did your videos walking in the forrest and losing weight. I dont have an intrest in MC"s (just bikes in general), but i watch because of your outlook on life and i appreciate your viewpoints. Thank you for what you do and i hope you're around for many years to come.

[@davidbutler9808]

The same “thing” that happened to George Christie. After he retired and left HA, he found out he was “out bad”. That’s good company.

[@zachebert9509]

Oh do u know him personally or did u learn it from the internet if so your out pocket on both 😊

[@davidbutler9808]

@@zachebert9509 History Channel from himself. Don’t take much stock on internet stuff, unless I do a research follow up.

[@michaelmitchell8239]

​@@zachebert9509 Well Time for you to Educate then

[@davidbutler9808]

@@michaelmitchell8239 : He “put it out” on one of his HC shows.

[@harrykain285]

Wrong, davidbutler

[@cbsjourney]

I’d be embarrassed if I was a member of this club right now.. If they had any sort of issue they should have met up with you and squashed it.. Of course behind the scenes too

[@jubeijenkins2339]

Man I been in my Club for 20 years. I couldn’t imagine being in it for going on 40, even being the Natl P and it go like this.

[@josephmiddleton8584]

The question is how did this person even get to be president without a motorcycle?

[@brooklynred6762]

popularity contest

[@Irishboyz]

Pulled straws

[@Irishboyz]

Pulled straws

[@BIGGETDFX82]

Young people don’t respect their elders anymore and not loyal to anything or anyone it’s all about them there needs their wants

[@Satanro666]

word!

[@gregcorder828]

Been watching since you started, much respect! Keep on keep'n on brother!!

[@davidmunson6913]

Hang in there Black Dragon the younger guys don’t like our ways Your a good dude

[@keithnichols1366]

The young punks arent even close to being a respectful member to the older members that brought the club to where it is . They just want to claim a title they arent, just like people who claim to b Marines but never even made it through boot camp to EARN that title

[@davidbutler9808]

If just want to find a group of guys to ride with, since you’re a veteran, u could always join the American Legion or VFW Riders.

[@trulurecords]

Seeing this really hurts my heart. BD keep your head up and stay on point. We appreciate you and what you do for the community.

[@BlackDragonNationalPresident]

I appreciate that

[@Ghost-vf2li]

Black Dragon. We have never met. I hope that that will change. You strike me as someone with integrity. Keep your head up and let the haters hate. Your show had me interested in joining Black Sabbath. I found my place in a motorcycle organization. The Black Sabbath members I have seen here seem solid. Prayers sent your way.

[@David-yp4fl]

@@trulurecords ♥️🩸🇺🇲🇺🇲🩸♥️

[@KickstandzDown]

New intro goes HARD BD💪💪🔥

[@jackvien1089]

It's a sad world where motorcycle brotherhoods disintegrate because of politics right along with the rest of society.

[@David-yp4fl]

@@jackvien1089 🌿🇺🇲❤️🇺🇲🌿

[@warlaynmaclaren2349]

I'll probably get ripped for this, but... I have heard of many elders in many clubs, 1% and 99% who are being put out of clubs for alot of reasons. So all that knowledge and experience is being tossed away. what a shame

[@Dan-ti6wg]

You ever been in a club ..then you know today's Protocol and Bylaws haven't changed but been revised By new prez it's the new norm to the next generation

[@bikerslife583]

I can affirm that. I know met talked to a senior member of a 1% club that was retired. And a few others from other chapters I don't know personally but have been retired or put out bad. This club now is in the news nearly constantly doing things that shouldn't be done.

[@adamb4093]

90 % of people have no loyalty with old or young not even throwing in the club factor of it

[@Evergreen.SH.]

Chase positivity in your life and people will crawl out of the woodwork to stop you.

[@DJDillyGent]

41:01 sometimes you got to leave the tree before the thunder strikes it😂

[@Tommie.ManicGK]

Hey BD sorry to hear about all this. You got to ask if it's all worth it huh. I feel these people will go through the same BS one day too if they are acting like this. I'll Rock with you forever. Just stay well brother.

[@timegan]

I've never met you, and I've never been in any variety of an MC, but you always come across as a solid guy. Keep your head up and keep steppin', 💯

[@b.t.1632]

BD, it saddens me to hear about what happened to you. Just watched Arch Bishop’s 1%er show on it. DAAAAAMN! I’m truly sorry you’re going through this. No man should lose him home for doing what’s right. Keep your head up. Men become stronger BECAUSE of the struggle, not in spite of it.

[@David-yp4fl]

♥️🖤🤎💜💚💛🧡❤️💔

[@ogieoglethorpe3788]

i went to high school with a number of guys who joined clubs. a few (2) went 1% the rest to others and one thing they all have in common is internal politics and power struggles. its weird that a group that is supposed to be unified and all about brotherhood has no issue pushing people out or kicking them out as a way to move up.

[@generalsirconn1545]

I’m sending luv ❤to Brother Blac Drag from Chicago.

[@johnmoldoon]

Awesome show guys. I don't normally post or say much but I'm impressed with your platform and have been watching it for a while 👍✌️👊💪

[@expendable4h002]

Typical club stuff. If you are talking about people and not ideas, you’ll be the next they talk about when you leave the room. It’s all just a waste of time.

[@Divine_1Scorp.]

Hi BD, I am at right now so disappointed for what is occurring towards you. I’m well aware that this is GMB (Grown Men Business). I just wanted you to know that I have you, wifey, and family in my thoughts and prayers. You are a man of integrity, truth, and respect. You’re Faith and Will Power will lead the way to a path of greater knowledge and higher calling.. Sending prayers, and blessings your way. 💛🫶🏼🙏 Sincerely, Carmen.

[@BradleyZaretsky]

Love yall

[@georgewilson2983]

Praying for you sir it's because of your show that my interest in bikes came to be so keep yo head up and stay positive

[@David-yp4fl]

@@georgewilson2983 THAT IS INTERESTING 🤔 💡 HE HAS TOUCHED SO MANY LIFES INCLUDING MINE 👍👍💜👍👍

[@idonthavemonkey]

I was on BSMC website 2 weeks ago and it named BD as a former national president. Now they're saying he never was... WTF? The website's down at the moment

[@JeromeGray-cj8er]

Black Dragon, I once was prosecuted by an MC for doing and standing for what was right in the chapter that I led as the President. I also retired from the club and still couldn't exist in my retirement in peace with the club from the haters inside of the club. Eventually, I turned in my retirement colors that I earned and exited the drama.

[@mikoholt8624]

Good Evening BD ❤

[@RobertHaggerty-v1k]

much honor love and respect to all of you

[@highlander4350]

Respectfully, I was never a member of the Black Sabbath Motorcycle Club, however, as a motorcycle fanatic and retired Army Officer this club under the leadership of John caught my eye as unique. I then attended several events and met many members and they are really cool people. I don’t know what’s going on but I am sad because you guys are righteous dudes. The only reason I didn’t follow through with starting a chapter was because my spouse developed a terminal illness. What’s going on guys? You’re a great MC. Don’t let it come to this!

[@brianrahuba6919]

So much for brotherhood ! I'm glad I'm out . Its a B.S. lifestyle anyway . It leads nowhere .....

[@braggsdesigns76]

Pure facts

[@tazz816]

As a advid bike rider, trucker, and retired military, I listen to the show as I drive. I have to say that I am shocked about what is going on. I stand behind you as you move forward. Good luck on the road forward and I see now why this kept showing up in my suggestions feed.

[@slice4351]

Man How a lifer retired suspended people need to understand how this thing works slice 1% er

[@miltonstewart9358]

BD , hope all is well with you. Sending Prayers to you.

[@crushem77]

I think it's a shame what they're doing to you Black Dragon. You seem to be handling it all in such stride though. You're a class act Black Dragon, you keep on keeping on. I support you! Love and Respect!

[@margowarner3485]

Bd, I appreciate that you have not pretended to be innocent in all this even though they are running around these internet streets acting like you are the damn boogey man. They did a ridiculous live last night making themselves look even more inept and pointless. All of the BSMC members that spoke last night validated your membership, the offices you held and your actions. But they are too emotional to even see that's what happened! it was really sad and very embarrassing for an MC. Keep being a stand-up dude. They can't change that you are the face of Black Sabbath, whether you are in or out. You put that club on the MC map! That's what they hate!

[@54WISHBONE]

IN GEORGE CHRISTIES SITUATION THERE IS NO REASON FOR HIM TO BE OUT BAD I BELIEVE THEY WERE JEALOUS

[@zachebert9509]

Do u know him personally

[@54WISHBONE]

@@zachebert9509 no

[@masolyoung1712]

Keep your head up my brother,what God has for you is for you and nobody else, keep pressing forward my brother.

[@David-yp4fl]

@@masolyoung1712 SO TRUE 💡💙💙💡

[@jered2177]

Best of luck BD

[@shayb290]

Hello, Black Dragon,,,So sorry to hear how you have been treated,,,,,,Peace and Respect,,,to you and yours,,,from Dublin, Ireland 🇮🇪 👍👍☘️☘️☘️✌️

[@RobertHaggerty-v1k]

big bone much love and respect to you and your nation

[@FXR_OG]

Damn G, I heard what went down man. For real man?! Damn that’s pretty fucked up you got did like this homie. “Got No respect just no respect” as quoted by the late Rodney Dangerfield. Stay up sailor, you got this man. Your subs ain’t gonna leave you big homie. MLLH&R

[@BlackDragonNationalPresident]

Thank you sir!

[@nicholasrogge7041]

How to say it's kind of embarrassing on all the veterans that are getting put all bad when none of them damn motorcycle clubs would exist without them

[@RiffRaff1633]

Welcome to the OUT BAD side of the MC LIFE

[@Triussk61]

With all due respect to John aka Black Dragon, who cares! The man paid dues most folks won't get! Why he would be put out bad, who knows,? He's a Submariner and a Biker, and a highly intelligent Dude at that!

[@BlackDragonNationalPresident]

Thank you! It don't feel all that bad. But it really hasn't set in yet.

[@FRPpolo]

10 year member of a big club..never heard of Black Sabbath outside black dragon..just being real

[@highlander4350]

@@FRPpolo it’s not a big club and also never intended to be a 1% club either. Events I attended were a good time and the members I met seemed to be content with the club. Members treated me great when I was “hanging around “. I guess these personality conflicts are gonna happen.

[@jaycee9086]

There is a member who sent out a letter with receipts stating how others framed BD. Apparently they dont want the fact that they kept a pedo in the nation while knowing about it. Apparently they are pinning it on BD

[@insanewheels]

Great job brother Dragon🦾 I’m sorry politics found your front door. Sadly everyone of us that have put ourselves in the spotlight of social media in general, eventually someone gets jealous that they aren’t in the spotlight. They feel like YOU are taking away from their spotlight. Sad truth though? They were never going to be in the limelight. It always comes down to the crab in a bucket theory, once you start getting up, someone will try to pull YOU down to get themselves up. I’m proud of how you have handled yourself💯 Always love and respect🦾

[@hentiec8870]

Hi BD, this is a big kick in the nuts. I can imagen it is very heartful. Stand strong. You are in my prays. love and respect

[@derekwarrington6803]

I'm always gonna be here for you brother black dragon you have been a friend a brother an a mentor I can say for a fact I know your spirit an your heart all of this is by far without question b/s this is why father stated the lifestyle has become perverted and strayed to far from it's roots an shit like this proves it my family and my club stands with black dragon nothing but love

[@nicholasrogge7041]

Sometimes rules are meant to be broken especially if they're all caught up

[@zachebert9509]

TO THE GUY ON THE BOTTOM LEFT YOUR GOSSIPING NOW ....😂

[@nicholasrogge7041]

Bless you helped me be the Best Dad Ever

[@philliphowell9599]

Keep your head up

[@t.pearso3228]

the OG said it best "the agitators be the guys that don't have 10 yrs in".... and that's what it is 💯💯

[@nicholasrogge7041]

Well they wanted the number so fast they should have thought about loyalty over numbers

[@williamblair2791]

Hope everything is going good brother I always have your back and I think you need to start your own club trust me you have a lot of who will join and ik there's a lot of black sabbath that will follow you

[@ChandoisGainesjr-fn9vr]

Don't worry about the haters black dragon. Keep your head up & stay strong. God is with u that's all that matters. Jesus is your real brother. He will never leave u.

[@annfranklin3626]

BD, Im lost for words! Keep your head up.....

[@David-yp4fl]

@@annfranklin3626 🇺🇲♥️👍👍♥️🇺🇲

[@juangonzales4189]

I’ve seen that shit before. It happened to me when I wore a patch. I kept hearing that a member knew “ a dirty DEA “ agent and they had paperwork on me. Everyone saw it….except me ! I finally told them to come get their shit. Long story there so I’ll leave it there. But happy I no longer wear a patch. And no they didn’t get my bike !!

[@BlackDragonNationalPresident]

That sounds like it was a 1% crew to me.

[@juangonzales4189]

@@BlackDragonNationalPresident sure was.

[@zachebert9509]

Its not our culture to put our business out There in the street but your on your tube. thank god i aint part of no set😂😂😂😂

[@mortarfo7910]

In all my years being on the set, the no.1 rule was always “club business is club business, not anyone else’s business”The fact that so much info is out there leads me to believe that most if not all of this is total B.S.

[@harlybattiest]

Much Love BD

[@David-yp4fl]

@@harlybattiest LOVE FROM MISSISSIPPI USA 🇺🇲 👍👍💜👍👍

[@willispeacock948]

Looking at this from the outside it seems to have done exactly the opposite reaction they intended. It seems to have hurt the credibility of the club and not BD.

[@DaveLawson-ye1up]

That's okay we love you and we appreciate all you do for us

[@user-lh6zr3vz9b]

Love the new out bad biker TV and the t shirts, Great attitude.It's funny if you're not around a club anymore and you're not standing around in bar parking lots, you don't really see them anywhere that matters and regular people don't know or really care about them. Turns out they're not as big a deal as they think they are. Its pretty hilarious.

[@justinburris1365]

In some states certain cases drop after 7-10 years most if you comply then it drops off so he was waiting the time by an hopefull it fell off…at least to me that’s how it sounds

[@2Tall03XX]

Black Dragon, out bad, the fuq?!

[@JayBirdNJ.]

It's a power struggle between the younger generation and the older generation. The younger generation is trying to use social media to ruin the reputation of BD.

[@WaggsHL-dj2pp]

Prays for ya... I've meant u a couple of time and you always been good to me and my club

[@realityhurts8697]

I've been riding 30 yrs. Known a lot of club members from various clubs, some of which didn't get along. I never patched up because, I ride with whom I choose to. But I've never heard anything like this, from any of those clubs concerning members or former members.

[@nicholasrogge7041]

I think the MC world is about to really depreciate cuz I don't think anyone's going to want to be presidents if everybody always wants to whack the president

[@EVILLERKS]

B.D keep ya head up brother

[@joeamartinez5842]

So i have no idea what the exact charges were and who is the pedo that is being so called covered up? If we are gonna hear this, lets hear the full story! Cant assume that we all saw these so called documents

[@jimmyclark1255]

Stay STRONG my brother (BS.M.C

[@David-yp4fl]

@@jimmyclark1255 LOVE FROM MISSISSIPPI USA 🇮🇱♥️🇺🇲

[@mattmorrison9379]

Sounds like some BS. Smh

[@David-yp4fl]

@@mattmorrison9379 💙👍👍💙

[@NeekieC]

Keep standing tall. 🙏🏻

[@David-yp4fl]

@@NeekieC 🌿♥️👍💔🌿

[@jamiecarter59]

Black dragon just go ahead and prospect for OutKast and get it over with

[@BlackDragonNationalPresident]

They don't want my old butt! LOL

[@HodgeySYL81]

He would never do it because he never prospected a day in his life! He was given a patch and took off and started the club somewhere else

[@306jah]

It’s a chapter in sc that’s started a 1% club that got members who never been in a club in they life

[@ThatboyBlakeney]

Who and where? Just outta curiosity

[@wcmade1]

What’s discussed at the table stays at the table. And if you out someone they don’t matter anymore. Period. Everything after that is gossip

[@sergeant1hp]

I'm a ex VP in my club I will continue to recommend you to my probies

[@nathanmoody6360]

What is this letter everyone is talking about anyway who cares what’s the biker news for the day

[@BlackDragonNationalPresident]

I'll be back on biker news first thing!!!!

[@nicholasrogge7041]

Dad's called an honorary spot

[@garyny4073]

Who would dare give u a death threat , were a bigger army protecting u then all those Aholes combined 😮😊

[@senoraankhi5980]

Always fighting over who's in charge..ALWAYS

[@just3dayz]

Dragon, why the hell everybody sending you death threats what the hell did you do?

[@jamesjones-xp6rd]

Hi Black Dragon sir. Much love and respect. I haven’t listelistened in a long time but. I am , or have been a subscriber, I hope I still am. Your book “Prospects Bible”, helped me prospect. I patched in at age 64. I have been through a lot the past few years and I hear you are going through a lot of negativity. I’m sorry. I’m going to make sure I’m still subscribed.

[@ChandoisGainesjr-fn9vr]

Investigating him why'll calling him brother 😤 THEY SMILE IN YOUR FACE ALL THE TIME WANNA TAKE YO PLACE THEM BACK STABBERS BACK STABBERS! When u say black Sabbath u say black dragon! That's like when u say hells angels u say sonny barger. I didn't know anything about black Sabbath til I start watching black dragon tv years ago! Haters man! Be your own people! Stuff like this makes someone not want 2 join a club.

[@briansonnier7384]

I've never rode or been a member of an MC, but i've known bikers and a few members of clubs my entire life. I've never ever seen real, loyal bikers act like this. It's disgraceful.

[@nicholasrogge7041]

I had a dream of riding Harley I'm 44 years old I've built probably 150 of them helped Brothers keep their bikes going but not a single one yet he's helped me finish my bike

[@janetgreenslade6478]

Fucked up for a club to behave like this!

[@nicholasrogge7041]

Chicago says closed mouths don't get fed

[@DJDillyGent]

26:34 I have trouble telling people I got any kind of thing but perfect going on in my own house let alone a business or a club