Black Enchantments That Are Wild And Crazy In Commander

[@dharokaway]

Hecatomb seems great in a Beledros witherbloom deck! You make a pest every single upkeep, and can pay 10 life to untap all your lands to ping twice with all of your swamps.

[@moedark4390]

Thats awesome, i play it in my endrek sahr deck

[@Hazaak.]

I was gonna say this too!! my witherbloom deck could definetly hecatomb, and combo with the cards from dominaria united that make land dryads. Make a ton kf land tokens, play urborg, then hecatomb. Deal like 20+ damage xdd

[@joedominguez8064]

I have Hecatomb in my Shirei Shizos Caretaker deck, the sac is upside and can just shoot down everything lol

[@Commander_Claw]

I found the better commander is Valentin of the Dean. I just made this golgari deck. You make more pests than you think bc it's when your opponents creatures die and Valentin is a 1 drop. I'll be adding hecatomb.great job Demo...love the old cards

[@Commander_Claw]

@@joedominguez8064 shizo caretaker is throwback. Awesome!

[@KryptOKnight184]

I made a Lethal Vapors / Kardur Doomscourge and I DO activate it haha. The deck is where you skip your own turn 1,000 times and uses "until your next turn" things like kardur. very fun to set the trap and watch them try to get out of it, of course doesn't always win haha!

[@Axelovskji]

That's hilarious. Do you have a decklist?

[@1Fsypro]

Couldnt your opponents just also activate Lethal Vapors 1000 times in response to you doing it?

[@KryptOKnight184]

@@1Fsypro they could but that is what claws of gix is for, you you can activate lethal vapros a bunch and then maintain priority and sacrifice it

[@Toowe222]

@@KryptOKnight184 Wouldn't the claws of gix sac just go on the stack, giving your opponents priority before it resolves to activate the lethal vapours ability?

[@KryptOKnight184]

@@Toowe222 well since sacrificing a permanet is a part of the cost for claws of gix, lethal vapros will be gone before the opponent can react. They can react to things that happen on the right side of the " : "

[@ollmeister4632]

I really enjoy playing Pestilence in my decks. It's always a good way to sneak in some damage and wipe all the little creatures of the board and nobody removes it because it's not a big threat

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

I remember back in Urza Saga, WOTC made a precon called The Plague, it had 4 Pestilences in it :P LOL

[@kiliangerber4957]

Pestilence is pretty awesome with Last Laugh.

[@princepersona]

There is a cmc 3 pestilence that uses snow lands to pay the black. Really fun. Sadly don't remember the name right now.

[@zirilan3398]

Also very nice synergy with Circle of Affliction on black. Pest deals damage to you, triggers Circle to drain for 1, so you never lose life to Pestilence

[@nathanielnelson5669]

​@@princepersona Withering wisps

[@andrewfornes5320]

Dauthi embrace is one of my favorite pet cards. BB: Target creature gains shadow until eot.

[@Blacklodge_Willy]

Yes! Honestly so underrated!

[@DoctorCataclysm]

Great card. I have it in my Nine Fingers deck

[@NyxTheScary]

Shadow is basically just Horsemanship right??

[@andrewfornes5320]

@@NyxTheScary yes, so for BB the creature is almost unblockable from 99% of the format.

[@Blacklodge_Willy]

@@DoctorCataclysm I have it in my Volrath the shapestealer deck. Sneaking in some 7 plus damage is nice on a five mana commander

[@ewanporteous2232]

I have Hecatomb in my Endrek Sahr deck. Sacrificing 4 useles Thrulls is no problem and the ability to ping anything is really effective, especially when sacrifing creatures causing people to lose life, discard cards and sacrifice their own creatures!

[@christianbergeron2519]

Thank you for the recommandations. Haunting Wind seems like a reeeeealy great fit in my newly created, Tor Wauki the Younger deck.

[@casketbase7750]

Yes! Yawgmoth's Agenda is a lynchpin in my *Ghen, Arcanum Weaver* deck. I already run many self mill and Rule Of Law effects, and Ghen can sacc the thing when it becomes too cumbersome. EDIT: Lethal Vapors too! Ghen can sacrifice the card in response to an opponent trying to activate the self-destruct effect, and their turn is still skipped. Diabolical.

[@RealTal.]

demo i would also like to mention the lethal vapors+ teferi's protection combo. cast teferi's protection, then in response, active the last ability of lethal vapors an infinite amount of times, each one in response to the last. unless your opponent has alternate wincons, they draw their whole deck and die.

[@Seedmember]

The opponent activates the ability of Lethal Vapors infinite+1 times and nothing happens.

[@RealTal.]

@@Seedmember in response you active door to nothingness

[@soleo2783]

​@@Seedmember someone else in this comment section mentioned claw of gix to get rid of it

[@actiondk2279]

Breeding Pit from Fallen Empires is one of my favorites

[@thewalkingcrow8946]

I play lethal vapors all the time to trigger graveyard recursion combos. It's also good to shut a player down for a turn. I'm kind of known in my group for finding and playing weird ass random enchantments no one has ever seen or heard of before that just completely wreck the board. As a result they all have enchantment removal on deck now... I call that success.

[@Great_White_Shork]

I have a Tymaret, the Murder King steal creature deck and Season of the Witch will fit in very nicely. Now just need to scrounge up $40.

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

Hecatomb works well with Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder and Ghouldcaller Ghisa. Easy ways to get the requisite number of sacrificial creatures on board.

[@eric360elite]

Hecatomb is such a fun card to play around. Seedborn Muse + Urborg + Hecatomb = good time. You can also play Hecatomb as a one-time 'burn spell' by not to sacrificing.

[@JohnRambo-sj8ri]

I would also mention: Mortuary which is pretty unique. Works well in Nalia de'Arnise types of decks. Death Pit Offering if you could play before playing creatures or maybe you want to sacrifice them anyway. Spreading Plague + Darkest Hour can be very annoying to play against.

[@jongailey85]

Endless Whispers and seems like it might be decent in Jon Irenicus. Yet another way to exchange control of your creatures. Seems good! Never seen it before. Season of the Witch would also work in some kind of goad deck. It actually seems like it would be one of the more powerful cards in the deck if you build it right.

[@Hyxtrem]

I do have Koskun Falls, Desolation and I knew about Gate to Phyrexia (but 90€ Oo oO). Lethal Vapors is one I didn't knew about. Some clunky cards, but some really good. Honestly as a mono black player, just grab a Sword of Sinew and Steel, it's essential to answer artifacts. Nice video

[@CatholicDragoon]

Hecatomb would be perfect in a Kresh deck, you already want to be sacrificing creatures and you're incentivized to bring a decent number of cheap creatures and/or tokens with you cause you need things to sac.

[@percivalyracanth1528]

Koskun Falls is so good in my Jon Irenicus deck, Jon seldom needs to attack so he's a great little tapper to keep even more hate coming towards you than there already will be anyway XD

[@thekwjiboo]

Just started the video and already started thinking of some. Necropotence, No Mercy, Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos. I know these are pretty mainstream, but they're all very effective in edh.

[@connorl0204]

Another way to abuse lethal vapors: cast teferis protection, activate vapors 1000000 times all while holding priority. Add a grand abolisher effect and it will win you the game unless someone has a shuffle effect to prevent decking themselves, but less experienced players will often forget that they can also just activate it a bunch of times in response to you doing it.

[@EbonAvatar]

I'm so happy to see Hecatomb getting some love! One of my favorite cards since 1999

[@Veznikcpg]

Hecatomb with the new Zur giving it deathtouch is pretty spicy

[@tym6217]

I've used Gate to Phyrexia before in a monoblack deck I had that also had a sacrifice theme. The card is a bit clunky as a sacrifice outlet since its timing is heavily restricted and only a once per turn effect but it was worth the clunkyness in exchange for a source of reusable artifact hate in a monoblack deck that otherwise could barely interact with artifacts at all. I also like to run Meteor Golem, and sometimes even Scour from Existence or Spine of Ish Sah in monocolored decks that really struggle to remove certain permanent types.

[@coryirvin6651]

some great finds, that Desolation card is going right into Spirit of Windgrace

[@zirilan3398]

Can also recommend Destructive Flow

[@Ouja]

I used to use Hecatomb in a green/black deck with Night Soil, essentially making my opponents pay the sacrifice cost.i still use Lethal Vapors in my Sophie's Choice Deck. It's fun to make your opponents choose between 2 bad options.

[@theprogressivecynic2407]

In a donate deck, (typically Rakdos Xancha or Blim), there is a great enchantment that is so aggressively bad that it pretty much destroys an opponent. It's called Oath of Lim-Dul and it has a lich effect (you must sacrifice another permanent--including lands--or discard for each 1 life you lose, but you can pay BB to draw a card). Donate this to an opponent who can't generate black, and it's just the worst curse in the game which will gradually force them to sacrifice all of their permanents except the Oath, which can't sacrifice itself. It actually has one of the most dispiriting total locks I have managed on an opponent with Underworld Dreams, as every time the opponent draws, they lose a life and must discard it. You just clear their board and prevent any recovery. The same deck runs other things like Demonic Pact, which similarly disrupt an opponent.

[@gtfawaynotnow]

Gate to phyrexia can be really helpful in mono-black or black primary decks with removal. If you pair it with either liquimetal coating or torque then you can target anything. Which is great considering black is terribly weak for targeted artifact and enchantment removal.

[@magicsinglez]

Yawgmoth’s Agenda was mostly used for playing 2 cards a turn. You would play a card during your turn, then play an instant card from your graveyard during your opponent’s turn, like a counterspell or destruction spell. I’ve never had it out but I’ve seen other people play it.

[@Syncopiia]

Lethal Vapors works really well with indestructible commanders. Some good fits would Athreos God of Passage, Mogis God of Slaughter, and Zur Eternal Schemer. With Zur, if you're playing enchantments and making them creatures, they get around the etb destruction.

[@Lhurgyof]

I run Gate to Phyrexia in my Yawgmoth deck. It's mostly aristocrats, so the sacrifice is inconsequential and I think it's pretty flavorful for the deck. Desolation I have in my Zur lockdown deck as another way to Stax people out while I kill them with commander damage. Lethal Vapors I have in my Nicol Bolas Superfriends deck because it barely runs any creatures and it pulls a lot of weight to protect my board.

[@happybrain2674]

i use hecatomb on my 5 color landtype maters deck. (5 color cause i love last stand) there are so many interesting effects and thanks to green you have a lot of effects that ad basic land/ or all landtype. that theme is completely fine just by being green/black. there are enough landfalls but also alot that say for each forest get token creatures and with black you can double/tripple mana and do the damage/drain/lifelose. also strands of night is a unice black enchantment that works well if you can use lands from graveyard. find a way to sac a creature that let you play additional lands and have at least one swamp doubler and you get endless without doing anything (if you get at least 3 mana from a land you have endless mana^^) red has the fewest effects, so its not needed. white has the most swamp hate cards, but for each player. and blue carddraw is so good, you mostly can ignore the landtype carddraw effects, but i wanna metion there are also cards like realmwright, or stormtide leviathan to add colors and Flooded Shoreline to bounce lands/go endless??? (btw there are more bounce your lands effects so you can technically save lands without needing a grave)

[@Hazaak.]

I made rakdos chaotic enchantments using ur red enchantment video. Time to update it!! Funny cards I used that were black, was endless whisper and a sorcery that basically made two players take eachothers next turn.

[@mannya5088]

I can see Hecatomb working well in a Shirei deck. So long as what you sacrifice has power one or less, they would return to the battlefield on the next end step.

[@mibbzx1493]

Thats actually pretty sweet

[@BigDrew49]

Hecatomb won me alot of games in the 90s Ran it with Sengir Autocrat and Breeding Pit back then. Also had a Lord of the Pit thanks to all the sac fodder

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

Yawgmoth's Agenda is a good card to "gift" an opponent.

[@FailNinja76]

I got a copy of Yawgmoth's Agenda to put in my Yawgmoth themed deck, but I often found that by the time it was useful it was too late to really matter. Great if you already have a Rule of Law effect tho!

[@shaneroach8940]

I used to run Phyrexian Reclamation in my Muldrotha deck. Costs a single B to play with, "1B, pay 2 life: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand." I play a lot of kill-on-sight creatures, so it definitely gives me another chance to keep my creatures on the field in a deck where I don't really care if things die.

[@RealTal.]

also another card that came to mind when you were taking about hecatomb was the OG Koth of the Hammer, his ultimate does the same thing for mountains

[@kapiatgatas]

Great cards. I have most of the cards in my mono black enchantment deck from which I got an inspiration from Jumbo Commander. It's a grind type of game and make your opponents salty and pissed. Its also a deck that I hardly win so I seldom play. The spells are costly and have no evasion. I have to wipe the board 4 times to win by opponents giving up and calling the day.

[@rawrxdtonepforme9360]

Hecatomb would be amazing in my Moldrotha deck. The amount of search, ramp, board control the deck would make getting both it and Urborg on the field pretty easy.

[@VegtamTheWonderer]

Hecatomb has a pretty solid combo with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Kormus Bell. Sure, board wipes get a bit rough, but that's for everybody. And pinging everybody's else's lands down is pretty effective.

[@kalleflinkman7582]

Thank you for unique content. Please keep on adding the estimated secondary market price value around these cards, it was a good way to actually see if they are worth aquiring 😅

[@zeekeno823]

Hecatomb with ob nixilis captive kingpin is great. You could have goblin tokens to sac and it fits the ping playstyle

[@benjaminwiler8271]

One time I lost a game because I cast an extract from darkness with no targets in a graveyard and the only target anyone milled was phage

[@NaivafAreul]

8:45 [Season of the witch] basically attack or lose your creatures. Add [Revenge of ravens] so them attacking causes them to lose life. Now, it's attacking me causes you to lose life while I gain life. However if you don't attack you lose your creatures

[@danikirk5774]

I like Oubliett. It's an Enchantment for 1BB, it says: Target Creature Phases out until Oubliett leaves the battlefield. This is great because you can phase out an enemy Commander, and they have to destroy the Enchantment in order to get it back.

[@Mischievous_Moth]

Lethal Vapors is great in Zurgo, he's indestructible as long as its your turn, so he survives the enchantment and then pretty much has a clear path to win via commander damage

[@johnap5278]

There is an entire selection of cards that have combo shutdown potential and should be included as a possible drawn and or tutor I remember just including a ancient runes in a mono red deck and having it strait with. Me a few games the first card feels like it could shut off so man combos

[@meged5252]

Greatest banger channel-intro in exsistence

[@oakguy2153]

Hecatomb is a HOUSE in my Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker deck. Mono Black and I want creatures going into the graveyard, I get them all back, and they all have ETBs, LTBs and/or Dies triggers, or activate other value engines.

[@thetruthisoutthere8714]

I had Desolation in my Obeka deck. Really cool way to control the board, really good way to get focused until you're sitting there playing Arena on your phone, watching everyone else play commander. There's a reason some of these don't see play... As the caster, you won't be playing that game much longer after casting it, you either win for sure or become the main target.

[@ivernedit]

My tymaret deck has a steal sub theme for saccing to get back my commander. Dargo decks will like too. Real sweet card.

[@williamkeiser7562]

I used to play lethal vapors in fun 60 card deck a long time ago. Just lay down a pithing needed beforehand and it's much harder to deal with.

[@someguy1ification]

I run Hecatomb in my Balthor the Defiled deck. It's great. I'm happy to sacrifice creatures that I'm going to mass reanimate over and over

[@Mecal00]

I have Lethal Vapors in my Ghen deck, along with Forsaken Wastes (a world enchantment)

[@Arvaniz]

I've used Yawgmoth's Agenda in my Korvold deck for years. I can replay all my sac lands, and recast all the sacced creatures and permanents. And if the very same Yawgmoth's Agenda becomes annoying for what I'm trying to do... I can sac it with Korvold. ;-)

[@uhfrank]

this video has inspired me and i plan to make a deck that includes a majority of thise. really fun and different!

[@KeithJ166]

Hecatomb seems awesome and if you have a Sengir Autocrat you can get it out with no problem.

[@MustangMike52]

Hecatomv would be AMAZING in a grixis deck with Urborg and a Gherson Starn Kelermorph on the field. Each tap could ping for 3 and do some serious damage

[@mistysowards7365]

Hecatomb and desolation are cards I'm brewing w for a legacy mono black deck, kindle a chainer deck so far.

[@WolfmanXD]

That first artifact hate one will fit nicely into my vazi deck.

[@isaactuschy3949]

The way I’m going to get hecatomb with your tcg link rn for my torgaar deck!! It’s .31 for lightly played 😍

[@Pod28]

10:17 you just feel into the trap of "oops I just made Act of Treason into Murder" aka bad removal

[@yarimanko]

used hecatomb in my horobi deck; was fun turning my swamp pingers into complete creature destruction

[@jul5184]

Regarding the statement, that the concept of colors hosing other colors was abandoned in MtG: In M20 set, there was a cycle of color hosing cards: Fry(R), Noxious grasp(B), Devout Decree(W), Aether Gust(U), and of course Veil of Summer(G). There was also a cycle of creatures with protection from color. But then again, this was almost 4 years ago and I can't remember a more recent example.

[@Belena711]

You're right, but those are one-off effects, or very tame compared to what they used to print - e.g. Gloom(B), Omen of Fire(R), Nature's Wrath(G), Chill(U), Light of Day(W)... So even your list represents a big step back. Disclaimer - You're free to use the cards in my list against me... But please don't. 😅

[@barrysetser3909]

oooh - I got a deck that Hecatomb would fit right into.....Just got my pile o' cards in one place and am in the winnowing down to 99 phase

[@lorenzotanzi9851]

Endless whispers and bronze bomb is an infinite damage combo basically.

[@schlockfather]

Nice tech!

[@jzanedesign]

I run Hecatomb in my "Seizan perverter of truth" it's kind of a slow burn group slug deck running cards like hecatomb and last laugh.

[@mrnekomaneki01]

Ooh hecatomb seems like a fun tech in my chainer Dementia Master. Since you know I'm not saccing my own guys and can just resummon them.

[@laharlfan71]

Haunting wind is also pretty killer against equipments as well

[@green_dragon_knight]

Haunting wind would be a killer card against an urza deck or any deck using improvise or the ixalan enchantment that flips into a tolarian academy

[@dominooch1917]

Not sure how often you check older video comments but I think hecatomb works great in my Beledros deck since I can untap my lands and sac my pest tokens

[@kalamander8563]

One of my favorite black enchantments from back in the day is Last Laugh. 2BB cost. "Whenever a permanent other than Last Laugh is put ibyi the graveyard from play, Last Laugh deals 1 damage to each creature and Player. When no creatures are in play, sacrifice Last Laugh." Put this in an aristocrats deck and watch the fireworks. Oh, but make sure you have an Exquisite Blood like effect to mitigate your own life loss, as Last Laugh hits you too.

[@nathanielnelson5669]

Or if in white righteous war and sphere of grace. All your white creatures are immune and so are you.

[@virgilhoward9071]

I love Hecatomb, play it in several different decks.

[@jeremymajors8982]

My question with Hecatomb -- when you tap the swamp, do you get the damage and the mana? If so, this has potential. If not, it is worthless.

[@toastytcg1282]

Hecatomb could go into Obeka, sac trigger goes on the stack and then you just end the turn so you dont sacrifice anything

[@Badassest]

Hecatomb in dimir with cards like tales end to counter the ability might work

[@crawler0095]

dont forget you can play Phyrexian Revoker, naming Lethal Vapors to keep its second ability from being activated.

[@FamousCoozie]

I'm considering putting hecatomb in my Drivnod deck, it could be absolutely huge there.

[@groundswelllegitcoffeeandb3810]

Equipping equipment is also an activation ability of an artifact.

[@seansloan7015]

Picked up Haunting Wind for $40 because I have a pain deck and treasures are everywhere. Not a week later it jumped up over triple digits

[@outfoxies]

No Mercy getting reprinted in DMR was a boon, cracked one in a pack and instantly threw it in my Syr Konrad deck

[@zackwilcox3183]

With phage and endless whispers , say you're in your average 4 person pod , if phage is donated it just causes that one player to lose then phage goes to grave because of state based actions or whatever when a player losses right ? Or if you have phage in command zone goes to grave then choose to put to command zone ? Initially I was thinking the player would then just donate it back to you because they have control of it you are considered an opponent I'm sure , but with phage they just lose on the spot unless they have something stating otherwise .

[@zackwilcox3183]

@@shadowfate05 for sure , appreciate the reply in detail . I figured she wouldn't get looped around by the enchantment but wasn't super sure on where she went once the player tht got donated it lost the game. , I don't own a phage deck myself tho I love her as a card , I do find her as a cool commander tho with stuff like command Beacon or whatever it is to get her to hand and similar effects.

[@strangebynature2798]

Endless Whisper is great fun with Bronze Bomshell

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

Even better is combining Season of the Witch, Koskun Falls AND Endless Whispers for constant creature confusion and graveyard shenanigans.

[@cordelking6110]

Endless whispers has been crazy in my Blim, Comedic Genius😅

[@SheepinWolvesCloth]

I actually play Season of the Witch and Endless Whispers in my Phage commander deck, now considering yawgmoth's agenda for that deck

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

I'd suggest No Mercy, since WOTC finally reprinted it so it is reasonably priced, to have an effect that states ''Whenever a creature deals damage to you, destroy it''. I use No Mercy in my Group Slug Mogis deck, Rakdos Enchantment/MLD is hilarious no one expects that the finale is mass land destruction followed by a ''cage match'' with Mogis, horrible enchantments and no lands but in true Rakdos fashion sometimes the enchantments kill me instead LOL :P

[@Seedmember]

Contamination is a really nasty card. In my opinion it's a stronger Blood Moon, since you can avoid Blood Moon's effect if you have basic lands, but Contamination doesn't care about that. If you don't have artifacts to get some other colour, you're out of luck, you just got locked down. Nether Void can also be quite annoying, since it fits a lot of decks that want to stall the game until the heat death of the universe.

[@lynxthewise7233]

FWIW they released a card for each color in New Capenna that cost less if targeting a certain color. But I haven't seen anything else since. ( Bouncer's Beatdown is one ).

[@JakesFavorites]

There were some core set color-hate cards that had bonuses if they were stopping a certain color. Autumn's Veil was one of them.

[@Merlewhitefire]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Phage + Endless Whispers an instant wincon? Not only could you take out the first player, but them losing would result in Phage going from the field to to your graveyard, meaning you'd activate the effect again, taking out a second player, and then a third.

[@RKGrizz]

This video speaks to my soul.

[@billable1861]

I use Lethal Valors in my Sliver Hivelord deck. It pretty much reads target player chooses to skip a turn in hopes to get back in the game eventually. Full disclosure I haven’t played the deck in probably 4 years mainly for the reputation it earned at the time. Might dust it off again with all the power creep.

[@TheStephenation]

Hecatomb was in my Spirit of the Night deck. Sengir Autocrat was the default means by which I'd feed it, but the deck was full of reanimation effects anyway, so I could sacrifice pretty much any of my creatures to Hecatomb.

[@PomesCollege]

Desolation is an amazing card in Mazirek (or Korvold)

[@joshrobinson2409]

If you pair season of the witch with the black enchantment no mercy which says when ever an opp

[@Not-The-Plan]

If you can get Herald of Leshrac with Urborg and Hecatomb you could definitely have some fun.

[@empty5013]

haunting wind is a nice hoser for treasures but it's also 25 bucks for what is ultimately pretty low value sadly. If it was cheaper I'd definitely consider it for my pain deck :(

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

Just include Mycosynth Latice. Now it's great value for 25 bucks.

[@hahahafunniness]

Easily solved by getting a proxy. Price shouldn’t be a point since we’re all so price sensitive. So many ways of getting quality proxies anyway

[@SnuzzleGrundle]

I like how half of these are in my Blim, comedic genius deck.

[@eathonhowell7414]

Volrath's dungeon actually would work amazingly in an Oskar deck.