Black Mage versus Odin! A GOOD day in Mentor Roulette!

[@nathanielhollas8471]

I was doing Orbonne as a tank for the first time (Ive done the raids before, but never as a tank), I took the last hit of the crush armour just out of habit. Safe to say I learned my lesson

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

It usually only takes one... And then remembering the experience! 😂

[@HakureiIllusion]

There's a cheese for the two dolls I found with someone in Duty Finder. If you drag them back up the stairs, the shockwaves from their slam don't seem to have much vertical range, so you can stand a little further up the stairs than them and just dodge all the hits. Tank and melee might have trouble staying far enough up the stairs to avoid while also staying in melee range, but healers and ranged have plenty of room to work with.

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

That's an extremely interesting trick! I will probably try this soon if I can! 😂 Thank you for sharing!

[@ze444]

Yo that's big tech, thanks!

[@IKMcGwee]

That's great thanks!

[@AkaAkoVT]

I might need to try that

[@pedroscoponi4905]

One thing I tested during one of my first runs - the dolls are not immune to Repose. If everyone and their grandma's burst didn't have AoE components to them, you could easily put one to sleep and then kill the other quickly. Oh, well! :P

[@JohnDCrafton]

Something about those Orbonne Monastery AOE's, I was in a roulette a few weeks ago and someone got the flare AOE, ran and stood right on top of everyone else, nearly wiped the raid

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Yikes! Yeah exactly! They really do hurt... We can survive it, but why not just play it safe?! 😂

[@fawkes6352]

Having spent five days learning/progging/farming EX2 for the wings, running the fight early in the morning before work and late at night before bed, and only getting the wings after *exactly* 69 clears... I'm honestly really thankful that THOSE attack patterns didn't make it into EX2. (Being deliberately vague about the fight and mechanics so I won't spoil too much for normal.)

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

That's the most nice number to finish on as well, congratulations! Also definitely, I didn't mean to suggest adding such a mechanic would be a good addition, it would probably be brutal for US! 🤣

[@aregularhuman4776]

for the swords mechanic simply stand in the line of a sword if its a short cross and between the swords if its a long cross

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

That is a good tip! Thank you 😊

[@LycanFayn]

I was astounded to learn in my first strayborough run that I can in fact keep track of two moving cups. But I still hope I'll figure out some tricks to make it easier XD

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Yes indeed! For my part the problem isn't the cups, it's that I also have to play the game at the same time! 🤣

[@kay_faraday]

Wow, I'm only able to manage one.... or one set, if they're part of the same rotation.

[@MajoraZero]

I normally can track of these things, but something messes me up. I blame some giant explosion that covers the screen enough to me to lose track of them :P

[@pedroscoponi4905]

@@MajoraZero Yeah, I'm pretty sure that effect is there precisely to make them hard to track x_x

[@Scerttle]

3:58 can confirm I felt like I was getting Fall Guys flashbacks. During those phases I just throw my rotation out the window and give everything a wide birth. Honestly in times like this they should take client-side positioning over server side. But oh well, at least it's a short fight. Could have been a fun one though.

[@Scerttle]

7:00 BLM feels so bad below 35 it's ridiculous. Like, I feel like they can't have playtested it, right? I got Haukke Manor the other day in levelling and I had to use lucid dreaming at one point because MP regen between packs just isn't enough. 9:48 ahah. There it is!

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

It is a very real possibility they didn't go to check low level black mage, but even if they did, I feel like pre dt low level black mage wasn't exactly amazingly impressive either, so perhaps they would've concluded that it isn't that much worse than it already was? 🤣

[@Scerttle]

@@CaetsuChaijiCh It's possible if you posted about it on the forums you'd be slapped with the dreaded "Working as intended" lmfao

[@IKMcGwee]

I finally played blk mage again since DT drop, omg the manafont, thundercloud and umbral soul changes are so nice!

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

And with today's patch, some of those get even nicer! 😁

[@TheKabukimann]

For the 2 dolls: You can stun them. i noticed this on my first run as a tank. This will give the healer a brief pause to stabilize the group or if they are a white mage spam holy for 10 seconds when they are at like 10% hp.

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Very true! I also realized this and had a laughing fit when I saw the doll just... IMMEDIATELY went back to slamming the floor when the stun ended! 🤣

[@pedroscoponi4905]

@@CaetsuChaijiCh "break time's over, BACK TO WORK"

[@morikmorvain]

@@CaetsuChaijiCh Also, potency changes mean that two targets is actually preferred at lvl 100 for several jobs rather than AoE. It is often optimal to single target combo and then use AoE resource spenders, if they are a gain on 2.

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

@morikmorvain very true, and because many many jobs now have aoe components on their big big attacks, even though we single target them down, we could still feel compelled to alternate a bit so there's two targets - assuming of course we are aiming for max damage! 😅

[@Strider_Shinryu]

That Orbonne Monastery tether always makes me think of the tether in E6's Garuda/Ifrit combo. So many times I've got that tether and no one grabs them to share them with me so I just get bopped...

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Oof yeah. Or being the main tank and it probably being a bad idea to help, so you can only watch as someone gets bopped 😰

[@IKMcGwee]

Last time I was in orbonne, I saw our tank heading for the tether, cuz tank brain, so I rescued them away from it. Good time

[@feelsbaraman4713]

From what I saw in Tsukuyomi te GNB managed to snapshot their moon debuff changing right before it ran out… though I thought once doom was applied you were dead? Might be extreme only

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

See that's exactly what I thought too! The doom was already there so what gives! 😂

[@Zharf]

@@CaetsuChaijiCh on normal the doom is 4 seconds, so if you move immediately you can still save yourself (though the selenomancy must trigger a stack again for it to go away) but on extreme the doom is like 1 second long so you pretty much just die

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

@Zharf I am surprised to learn the doom disappears if you actually switch in time, but fair enough!

[@firby7341]

i love these videos since i always learn things. i knew to alternate the debuffs in the black/white phase from tsukuyomi, i just never knew what the max stacks is that make you die so i always try to switch at 2 xD

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

I mean, better safe than sorry, but I am sure this fight feels a bit less stressful on casters now! 😁

[@zanaduz2018]

5:19 I found out that that particular mechanic only starts happening at the third time the boss does the room split (Poltergeist), so it is possible to out-DPS the boss to avoid it altogether.

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

That is indeed also a way to overcome it yes! 😂

[@cyphi474]

Yea you can transpose to get thunder...head. It takes bit of time(5sec CD) to transpose back and two spins to max out(cca another 5 sec), so you should do it only when run is long-er(top levels). I havent play much content below 50 to elaborate(its on to do list) best way to rotate on those levels with less tools to use since everything has changed. Losing astral fire at the end of rotation leaves you with no mp to cast anything. I mean, anything. You have to use Lucid Dreaming and get enough mp to cast blizzard, allowing you use Umbral Soul. Its complete lock, that can happen at any time if you arent careful and recovery can be difficult. Unless you have fireproc that can help you out of misery, or use mana potion to get at least something to work with. At 90+ you have always fireproc or paradox to extend when needed(depends what you use in middle..its complicated thing), 60-80 can be treacherous as you dont have paradox and guaranteed fireproc from it. If you forget...well...gl.

[@jacobsiron6929]

10:00 I think, and i feel it's not consistent, if you get out of the color before doom goes off, it'll come off- I could be wrong, but I think I've seen that happen once or twice myself

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Yeah that seems to be a possible reason why it happened like that 🤔😊

[@Zinkhal1]

5:00 these puppets are so funny ... as long as your group have atleast a bit dps .. most of the times for me 1 or 2 spells are enough to heal through .. but had 1 run where i just ran out of spells and had to use 3 hard casts ... as whitemage .. normally i dont even know what a hard cast for aoe healing is ...xDD

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Every time I see the dolls I think of my dumbfounded reaction when I saw them for the first time, and they just kept going and going and going and I started to get worried about the healing, while I was playing dps! 😂

[@MajoraZero]

Patch notes the day after this video, and now you won't drop Enochian during these long cutscenes! Hooray.

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Well now you just have to know they're coming so you can Umbral Soul in time!

[@GarnetDust24]

I’ve been getting A LOT more arr extremes lately. I’m not sure why that is…

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Hmm that is hard to say! I don't know why specifically arr extremes would happen more right now! 🤔😅

[@idaret.]

Im guessing that not a lot of people unlocked mentor roulette already so pool for extreme is much smaller right now

[@sailor_anna9924]

>_> i actually love strayborough. i hate getting tender valley T_T

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

What part about tender valley makes you dislike it? Or is it a case of stray borough being more interesting? 😊

[@sailor_anna9924]

@CaetsuChaijiCh well, strayborough is definitely more my vibe theme wise. But no I just don't like tender valley lol idky the bosses are a struggle for me, I know the mechanics but man they're so annoying lol. I also live in a desert so I just ... don't like it lol. As kinda gimmicky the other one is, it's fun xD

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

@sailor_anna9924 that's a fair reason 😊 Personally I'm sort of okay with both. Especially as I've gotten better at the first boss in strayborough 😄

[@sailor_anna9924]

@CaetsuChaijiCh yeah the first boss in stray was definitely irritating lmao. But I also was a rdm so I was just like ... why do they hate casters this expac lol. But I'd take stray over tender any day.

[@vespi57]

Everyone seems to hate Strayborough's first boss. Well, it can become annoying for various reasons. Not being able to maintain constant uptime is always prevalent, either because one has to keep moving to avoid everything, and whenever they get hit. But I thought it was a fun way to see something new in dungeons. Overall, Dawntrail's dungeons have been the best dungeons I have seen so far imo.

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Oh definitely. Personally I dont really mind it, but I understand for a lot of players with worse connections, it isn't just "well you have to dodge more", it's genuinely sometimes impossible to dodge, or feels that way! And that of course understandably makes it more frustrating! 😅

[@AkaAkoVT]

For me, the big issue is the teacup one. Suuuper hard for me to track the cups... sooo I often have to gamble a bit

[@cyphi474]

First boss in Deadwalk is plain stupid. They can grab you from distance, not talking about random lags you are having theese days... so much 'FUN'.... About Teacups. One that start on the edge will shuffle inwards on other side and then just swoop around and return to that exact spot. So you dont have to watch them all the time, just where it swing inwards, because thats the spot where cup utlimately stops after second circling around, making it easy to predict where safe spot will be. Its harder with two cups, but rule is same. Where cup slows down first time, is where will cup stop. Hope its not too confusing...

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Yeah I felt it had such a predictable pattern too, but for some reason it feels like this doesn't always work. But I can't put my finger on when if that is actually the case! 😅

[@ThePizzabrothersGaming]

would've liked a spoiler warning for current tier extremes on a video clearing normal content 5:45 :/

[@feelsbaraman4713]

5:36 is your warning

[@ThePizzabrothersGaming]

@@feelsbaraman4713 that warns me about the trial. NOT about mechanics in the extreme

[@CaetsuChaijiCh]

Oh you meant extreme spoilers. Hmm, well I felt I was vague enough that I felt it didn't spoil much 😅 I am sorry about that though! 😰 I guess I felt it made little difference to say what isn't there (as opposed to talking about what IS there!)

[@feelsbaraman4713]

@@ThePizzabrothersGaming it was vague as hell what exactly did you get spoiled on