Black powder partridge hunting

Hunting partridge with vintage muzzle and breech loading arms is definitely one of the best times. And if you do this with long time friends, you multiply the joy. Here is the story of a drilling made by Sauer und Sohn in the end of the 19th century still breaking clays and shooting birds.
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[@TheLoxxxton]

Its the joy of watching a guy who just enjoys black powder. I want to move to Hungary 🇭🇺

[@jacobdavies8105]

En is ❤

[@guaporeturns9472]

You can enjoy black powder shooting in many countries

[@MasterFatness]

Ah, yes. Been waiting a while for another hunting video. They are always brilliant. Thank you!

[@stevep5408]

That's cool that everyone gets a share of the game! It would be nice to have a segment on preparing, cooking, and eating the game you harvest!

[@capandball]

I am thinking about that.

[@bobthompson4133]

After owning or drooling over modern guns in my youth I want old stuff now

[@sandromicic6102]

Theres always something more special and intuitive with older firearms that modern ones cant really match Great video as usual to enjoy with a cup of coffee 👍🏻

[@Bhartrampf]

The form fit, function and gracefulness of them is definitely superior to modern guns.

[@user-zk8tg8ko1u]

Same! 😃☕

[@monotech20.14]

All new firearms look exactly the same. No great designs , nothing striking about them

[@rain8767]

@@monotech20.14 yes, even if the action is the same the way manufacturers made guns back then with their own signature touch in every gun is unparalleled. The action is the same, the method is the same but the firearms aren't the same.

[@jeffreygraf3358]

Amazing that you find all the old reloading tools!

[@pamtnman1515]

the old reloading tools, particularly the Hawksleys, are getting very difficult to find anywhere

[@johncashwell1024]

Impressive, all around. I just love to watch a good bird dog in action. It just amazes me how close a good dog can get, then hold before flushing the birds. To add to that everyone looked like they worked very well together: it is vital that everyone always knows where everyone else, at all times, in relation to themselves and then on the flush, where the bird is and where its flying in relation to everyone else. And by "everyone else", I mean everyone and the dogs too. Then you add in the beauty of blackpowder arms to the hunt and you have the makings of a fantastic day.

[@JakobElbaek]

Beautiful video! I cannot imagine a weekend better spent than this.

[@jlpjlp1953]

Hungarian hunting traditions are impressive. Communication, respect and safety are all excellent (and necessary) parts of any shooting sport.

[@drmoss_ca]

Nice to see there is still some hair under that cap. Your shooting gets even better by the time you lose it!

[@capandball]

:D quantity is still not a problem. Now the color... that's a different question. :D

[@stevebarzee7340]

What a joy. Thank you. I shoot BP shotguns mostly for hunting. So nice to see the group sharing knowledge and skill.

[@jacobmarley4907]

I used to hunt black powder in the 1970's with a replica 12 gauge English double in 12 made by Navy Arms. I now use a 12 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn (Soule) 1932 double with Krupp LaufStahl barrels. It was originally chambered for 2 1/2" shotshells (which I reloaded) however I rechambered the shotgun for 2 3/4" shotshells to take advantage of commercial non-toxic (bismuth) waterfowl shotshells. Thank you for a very good video and as always I appreciate the respect you give the game after the hunt. Keep up the good work.

[@rogerjclarke]

A most enjoyable and informative video. The black powder hunting in Hungary looks like a wonderful experience. Thanks for posting.

[@branislavbucha9500]

I love your black powder guns and ammo vids. Thank you for them :)

[@mauser_c9687]

today is a good day. never know that there is smoothbore rifle+shotgun till now

[@richardt.4224]

Great video (as usual) and I eco the sentiments re seeing more of your BP hunting videos. I have not met you in person, but I've been at a few MLAIC championships as a clay shooter. I got into serious BP clay shooting 30 years ago, it all stemmed from not wanting to shoot the bag limit of ducks and geese with modern, so to reduce those quanities, I turned to muzzle loading. My greatest joy is deaters day on the Craigmore Station/Farm pheasant shoot in New Zealand. If it's a wet day I use my BP cartridge hammer shotgun, but if dry, I have a NZ made muzzle loading 12g. I have tried brass 12g cases, but don't get on with them, so I use used plastic cases, but with BP they only last one shot, BP is just too hot. my load is 1 1/4oz shot (now dismuth) and the same volume 2FF. Back in my competition days, I practiced with 100 clay a week. I used powder bought from a fireworks company, it was their morter launch powder (they use compressed air now), it worked great, 😃. I found that practicing with a flint lock was best, as it improved my follow through. I'm now retired from competition, but still get out there with my shotguns. More black poder hunting videos please.

[@capandball]

Thanks Richard, good to see a member of the MLAIC family here! I am not using Swiss for my shotguns as cheaper powders seem to work well enough.

[@richardt.4224]

@@capandball I have only used Swiss in the flint primming powder form while I lived in Adelaide, South Australia. I was extraemly impressed with how well it worked! I used it in my 1780 Mortimer 14g flinter with great success and would even set the charge off while being held upside down, just amazing stuff! When I retired from comps, my two originals got sold, because I'm not a collector.

[@montanamountainmen6104]

I have a Birmingham , London C.G. Bonehill 10 ga circa 1899. Can't wait to get it after birds.

[@aziscakep640]

Shotgun cartridges were invented in the 1860s. Most early shotgun cartridges had a brass case, just like rifle and pistol cartridges. A few manufacturers during 1870-1900 offered shotshells with paper cases, but the early paper cases swelled when wet and paper cases could not be reloaded as many times as brass cases.

[@Onethirtytwo]

I like how you shoot in such gentlemanly clothing like a button up shirt, vest and hat. I'm going to recommend this channel to next guy I see at the trap club shooting in shorts and crocs.

[@jamessulzer5105]

Now that's fun! And great working dogs in the field. Thanks for sharing. This brought back memories of hunting with my father and brothers in the fields of Pennsylvania.

[@stephenland9361]

One evening a guy showed up at my local gun club trap shooting session and brought his breech loading, black powder shotgun. He was kind enough to let anyone shoot it who wanted a go. It got dark in the late evening and the black powder put on quite a show. First, a long blast of flame, which turned to thick smoke and finally the fall of burning embers from the cardboard wad. The smoke obscured your vision and you couldn't tell if you hit the clay or not. Overall, quite the experience!

[@joezuzolo9785]

Your president Katalin Novak recently visited my College in Kansas. I loved what she had to say to us students about Hungary. I hope to visit your country one day!

[@Bayan1905]

I don't know which I prefer more, hunting with black powder cartridge shotgun or using muzzleloading shotguns or fowlers. The cartridge guns are easier to load, but I've used paper cartridges like you would for a musket just mine are filled with shot and they're pretty good.

[@_FNQ]

So much dedication, knowledge, tradition and beauty in these presentations. What a joy.

[@jeffe.9904]

Awesome Cap! Thank You for another GREAT Video.

[@aziscakep640]

But Capandball isn't the Shotgun shell was Not built at 19th but is Was built Early in 1860s

[@stanwessler3623]

Good guns and good friends can't ask for much more than that. Yall take care and God bless you. Thanks for the great videos. 👍

[@tomlubas1512]

If I was fortunate enough to own a drilling I'd hunt with it(deer or birds) no matter what it weighed.

[@omkarkolge8848]

👍 so beautiful your country ,❤️👍💪😀 vid hunting 💓

[@teaCupkk]

360p? Oh i get it: gunpowder era resolution.. :)

[@capandball]

:) 4K as it was uploaded.

[@teaCupkk]

@@capandball For some reason it can only play at 360p on my end. Must be some glitch. Maybe it's time to reboot my PC, after almost a week of continuous running.

[@alexanderthomas2660]

I also only have 360p here, 9 hours after it was uploaded… I have tried it in an incognito window as well, but same result.

[@lawrencehudson9939]

I love drillings unfortunately they are above my budget. I do shoot black powder in brass cases for Cowboy Action Shooting. Lots of smoke as we have to get off four fast shots but I love it. Love your devotion to respecting the game you shoot a fine tradition I wish we had in America.

[@frydemwingz]

You look so genuinely happy while shooting. I wish I had at least one friend that likes shooting black powder guns, Ive taken them out to my friends while we are doing some back yard shooting sometimes, but they dont see it as any more than a novelty and dont like to relax and actually enjoy reloading a gun for 2-3 minutes. That's really part of the therapy for me.

[@Joe3pops]

Info: count the rifle grooves in your rifle barrel. If it's seven there's a high probability is Alexander Henry style rifling. Was designed specifically to lessen the effects of black powder fouling and the British army settled upon this rifling for thier Martini Henry rifles. From what I understand this 7 groove concept would be exceptionally difficult to reproduce using modern rifling methods. Strange but supposedly a true fact.

[@capandball]

Dear J, the Henry rifling is indeed an excellent rifling. I used to have a PH Volunteer rifle with this rifling and it shot perfect.

[@daviddiffenderfer6963]

when I turn u on KZbin I start the grill turn gas on and light it warming up for the bratwurst

[@NE-land-sea]

The gentlemen and respectful people on this channel is what we need more then anything in this time we all live in

[@Darkestdarkify]

I liked hearing the Quaker instrumental the background.

[@gregorypennell1755]

Another wonderful episode! I’ve embarked on the black powder cartridge shotgun journey myself, with a very nice condition Belgian made side by side. Mine has Damascus barrels, so it is holy black all the way for me!

[@marcosaraiva9205]

Vert informative vid well done! Always learning something more !

[@allenwilliams7847]

I would like to about the reloading press that youe using..Did they make reproduction of it?And what it is call?

[@capandball]

I have not seen any repro of it, but would make an excellent product for sure.

[@rando007]

This channel is the dream! I love this passion for black powder shooting, hopefully I'll get to do it too one day!

[@jamiecook3966]

Incredable watching you and your small group of loyal Black Powder shooters. Your channel is credit. From Canada

[@cmonkey63]

I can appreciate that this is not to everyone's taste, but I like it. Especially the vintage black powder. To give some perspective, I am middle aged, and my grandfather used to shoot waterfowl in Northern Canada. Also deer, of which there are so many. Take only what you need, and be thankful.

[@brandontanis388]

My grandpa had a Veterelli in his antique shop when I was in my teens. I researched reloading the caliber but I was not set up to cast lead. I remember that the article talked about seating the bullet onto a .41 Swiss case to shave a heel into the bullet, then pulling it to seat on the Veterelli case. I think the reason for using the Swiss case was that the cases for his .41 Swiss center-fire conversion were thicker than the Veterelli cases. Buffalo Arms may have some components.

[@dennishall9173]

I love your videos and this one is very special for me because of the old ways that is long forgotten and how people came together to feed their families, plus the new drilling is one of the guns that I have always wanted

[@karolpofficial9307]

7 hours and still 360p :-C

[@capandball]

I can't understand why... I upload only in 4K.

[@iduswelton9567]

Went Dove hunting once- i didn't have a good time- the other hunters were drinking while hunting and i never felt safe around them- im mostly a deer hunter from either a ground stand or a tree stand not a stalker - im a patient hunter i dont fire unless ive a clear picture of what im hunting- mostly ive used a 20 gage shotgon - a Mosberg model 500C Country Squire in 3" mag using #1 buckshot

[@capandball]

Drinking and firearms does not match. We have a zero tolerance here for alcohol during hunting.

[@iduswelton9567]

Drinking and hunting is a felony that could put someone in jail for 1-5 years and up to a $10,000 fine

[@Afro408]

Great story as usual and well done team for a wonderful day’s Grouse hunting! 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃😁 When you loaded the brass cartridges and just fitted a tight card wad over he shot, I was wondering if you find that the load in the unfired barrel moves forward under the recoil and falls out? I have a lovely old Richard Redman 16 bore, Underlever, BP shotgun. I load brass cases for it and was just running a line of wood glue around the over-shot wad, but the left barrel charge would still come loose and dump the shot onto the ground when the gun was broken. I have successfully hunted rabbits with it, because we no longer have a game bird season where I live and it’s a joy to use. 😁 I have since made a crimping tool for these cases and it just closes the mouth of the case slightly, but I don’t get any more lost loads. 😁 Thank you for your efforts on this channel. It is one of the best on here. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@capandball]

I checked it and did not move at all. The cardboard is really tight fitting. 20 mm in diameter.

[@Afro408]

@@capandball Are those cases harder to load in the chamber, than an empty case?

[@kevinbietry7527]

Paper shells need to return. In 2000 I was enthusiastic about turning 11 soon and my mother let me grab the old 16 gauge out from the closet and shoot it off the front porch. I grew up on a farm so that's not as crazy as it might sound. These shells were old paper hulls and had a distinct aroma that I have never experienced in all of my shooting since.

[@capandball]

I agree with you definitely.

[@NoTimeAllTime]

My grandpa used to have all these old 12 gauge paper shells and some brass shells. I agree that there was something good about about firing off the paper shells that I can't fully explain.

[@rodsvintagesxschannel.3095]

I use 80gr charge 2f in my 12 gauges. I use 3/8" cushion wads in place of the cornmeal fillers. But i use the stiff over powder wad on top of the charge...then cushion...then half of a stiff card wad.. Then my shot..then a over shot card...then roll crimp..

[@NOOBKIAtv]

why do i only have 360p? :(

[@capandball]

I do not know. it is uploaded in 4K

[@WildwoodCastle]

Just what I needed to see for my new 1886 Parker Brothers 10ga. hammer gun...

[@leaocacador44-40]

🇧🇷🇧🇷👍🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👊🏼👊🏼🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@lexedmonds9075]

Did you mean to upload this at 360p only?

[@capandball]

It is upoloaded in 4K. I do not know why it is 360p on most computers. I've done all the films in 4K for 2 years now.

[@lexedmonds9075]

@@capandball It seems to be okay now. Don't know what happened. Probably some hidden facet of KZbin's internal programming. Thanks for the video!

[@mattsheed9671]

Greetings from England, very Enjoyable Video too View. Use to do Black powder shooting Not been Able to find any 12 Bore Black Powder Cartridges for a few years! Kind regards Matt.

[@anthonycapuano8554]

Hungarian hunters after Hungarian gray partridge, over Hungarian pointers.... With black powder. Excellent!

[@kokorico5416]

Excellent video as always! Which primer do you use in the paper case cartridges? Black powder in shotgun cartridges needs light,medium or strong primers? Thank you

[@mikolajlowigus]

Hello, I would like to ask what kind of primers are did you use for W-209 firearm because there are three types, and I want to know which one did you use in shell S&B (red one) during elaboration with black powder?

[@joakimblomqvist7229]

Hello there and tank you for so many excellent videos! I don't reload shotgun cartridges but I shoot Cowboy Action. Modern star crimped shotshells extract poorly since the case material extends too far when fired. Cutting the shell and then roll crimp it instead would tage card of tge problem. I got some tool made to be worked from an electric drill but the process heats the cartridge exessively... a slow, hand driven tool like the one you use in this video would be a great thing! Are there any newly produced ones to buy or do I have to get an antique one (I gaven't seen anything like yours on the market here ever...😢! I need one 😊! Grateful for any help or pointers in tge right direction. All the best!

[@rodsvintagesxschannel.3095]

I shoot vintage paper shells the old ways. Some of my vintage sxs are shown on my channel. Feel free to view!!

[@Justin69ford]

Have you cast the rifle chamber? I have a Sauer and Sohn with the rifle bore marked 10.4mm however it is not a Vetterli. I had to make the cartridges from brass 410 bore shells. The drilling shoots like a dream and is my go-to sporting arm.

[@Victory-wl7lu]

Great video. What is the corn filler? Polenta? Will the moisture from the corn affect the powder if cartridge stays loaded for extended period of time? And- what would be your load for 16 ga brass shell?

[@glennhornby7439]

Love anything black powder hi from Australia I own a 45-120 high wall and also shoot black powder shotgun

[@357Dejavu]

Looks like fun!

[@paulharding1621]

What a fabulous guns,I look forward to you developing the rifle cartridge for drilling. I have not shot pheasant and partridge for some years but a lasting memory is using a friends single barrel flint lock to take pheasants.

[@ianclark2450]

This is great. Also check out fin and Flask. He has been hunting ruffed grouse with an antique muzzleloader shotgun.

[@milosjanos5058]

Drillings made specialy for Luftwaffe, were issued to Luftwaffe pilots flying in North Africa.

[@davefellhoelter1343]

I can see the Dogs Smile even with a Bird in their mouth! Love a GOOD Dog! better to have a good dog than a good shot! sitting next to 2 GSP's now and they are training my Doberman to hunt?

[@Tookarooks]

Most enjoyable, the hunt was beautiful to watch using traditional SxS shotguns used. Bon Apatite.

[@murilocosta922]

Olá! Vc esta usando cartuchos “ Metálicos “ da CBC Brasil 🇧🇷. Ainda uso bastante por aqui, nas minhas recargas ! 🤝

[@peterparsons7141]

Paper cartridges may gain favour in modern times. Many are aware that plastic hulls do not degrade when dropped in the field. Paper might be a good solution to plastic trash.

[@ronaldpoppe3774]

Great video I love shooting black powder shells. Need to get some brass shells though. Thanks. Cheers Ron

[@shadetreemech290]

I'm jealous of you and the hunts that you have and the comradery you share.

[@vulcangunner58]

Time afield with dogs and guns,...is time well spent! Thanks for bringing us along.

[@gregajohnson1985]

look at that beautiful gun. even the screws are embellished. what a work of craftsmanship.

[@michal.abramowicz]

75gr 3f bp Card wad filc wad card wad 33 maybe 34 grams of shot

[@davefellhoelter1343]

Dude! "I'm OLD!" I have shot Paper cartrages! and own a few.

[@pamtnman1515]

Wonderful video, well done and thank you from Pennsylvania, USA

[@Tex1680]

You can use 209 primers in the magtec brass case. Just have to drill out the hole to the right size.

[@keithmoore5306]

nothing like a hunt with a set of good hunting dogs working well!! you can use a hot glue stick to secure the over shot card just heat the stick and smear it around the edge!

[@Vishal.456]

Excellent shotgun buddy

[@Joe3pops]

I own the exact same model of hammer drilling in 10x10x45-70. Of course black powder only. I had a Birmingham gun maker square up & true the action, Chokes honed to Imp Mod and Skeet #2. Thank you for interpretation the proof marks. Mine was probably built close to yours. However mines a beast at 10.5 pounds. The butt stock was replaced very expertly. Was imported by Charles Daly the New York based gun importer. It has no sling swivels though. I sometimes wonder if it was ordered by a wealthy American western cattle rancher and traveled his rural property in a wagon box. Maybe? Yours is the only one on youtube closest to mine. 🇨🇦 Be well.

[@escoladotirocleber5076]

Uma pena que no Brasil ainda não temos a cultura da pólvora negra.

[@christophersilsby7829]

I need to figure out a load for. 410 in Blackpowder for my 45/70 1873 Sporterized carbine. I believe that "BANNERMAN Company got a hold of a full sized Infantry model(Which makes sense because his company bought a lot of surplus weapons), the people removed the rifling from the Damascus barrel and shortened the same and braised a new post sight, but leaving the original back sight. I received it when my Father passed away. I knew that the firing pin was broken, so I was able to order one, but still need a new firing pin spring before I even think about firing it. If you send me your Email address I will send you some pictures of my Rifle.

[@SabirKhan-oi1ik]

Sir I m from India &love ur each n every vedio based on black gun powder & can dei for a double barrel

[@peterusa123]

It’s awesome videos, I like the reloading tool. Please send me the name and model. Can’t find it.

[@bakters]

You guys had fun all right, but the ones I'm truly jealous for are the dogs.

[@chpet1655]

Who can resist a Drilling ? Sauer & Sohn on top of it ! I’m not going to say you are lucky to have it I’m going to say you are well deserved to own it ! Beautiful ! The proof markings are fascinating they really showed the potential customer the quality of the weapon. I wonder if most buyers actually knew what they all meant or if they just relied on their buyer to know his business. I’m just assuming most “gentlemen” back then would have a man to buy their guns for them.

[@holgerdanske3960]

Great video, very interesting showing reloading of black powder shells. I'm really like your videos. Informative and entertaining. Please keep'n running.

[@agoodwalker1726]

Dear Cap&Ball, thank you for the sharing. why don't you use a regular plastic shell you can find it the land during the hunting season? With my father, i did such a reloading with the same bushing as you are doing with the paper shell. br

[@ditzydoo4378]

Wonderful, storied shoot. It's always a good day to take one vintage longarm out for a walk. ^~^

[@woohu2u2]

Great video! Along with my normal "modern" firearms I also own two rifles, one shotgun, and two pistols using black powder. I really enjoy the black powder weapons.

[@arpadlimanagy7018]

Disparo dessa 2 canos calibre 20, com pólvora 3TTT...

[@gbrinfo]

Hi from France, a great ans beautiful video !

[@jamescooper2618]

This is a wonderful video, thanks so much for doing this! Im a long-time subscriber and this is one of my most favorite channels. That's a short list.

[@rupertmcnaughtdavis3649]

Even the camera was Old School! I love the way all your comrades keen up the tradition. Looking forward to seeing the rifle barrel of the Drilling in action. From South Africa.

[@NJPurling]

Lubitel 2. I had one. After I checked & re-set the infinity focus it shot very well.

[@escoladotirocleber5076]

Obrigado por compartilhar. Muito bom! ....

[@thorstenfleck-baustian8775]

Thank you for another great journey🤠Love to see the Vizsla working on their home turf, I hunt ptarmigan with ours👍🇳🇴

[@holderfreak6053]

Ich bin selbst aktiver Schwarzpulver schütze und freue mich auf jedes neue Video von solch einem Begeisterten Schwarzpulver Kenner

[@redtra236]

As a skeet shooter I think the main thing you're doing wrong is stopping/slowing down right before you shoot. Especially in the slow motion shots you can tell you're doing this on some of them. If you keep your swing up until after firing it should help a lot.

[@capandball]

Garret, you are absolutely right. Being a target shooter this is very hard to overcome. During the whole year I practice stopping the rifle to be as stable as possible, so when I switch to small game hunting mode, my brain still tells me to cool down the muzzle, aim steady. :)

[@Rambonii]

Should be a double safe weapon for black powder if proofed for smokeless