Black powder partridge hunting

Hunting partridge with vintage muzzle and breech loading arms is definitely one of the best times. And if you do this with long time friends, you multiply the joy. Here is the story of a drilling made by Sauer und Sohn in the end of the 19th century still breaking clays and shooting birds.
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[@TheLoxxxton]

Its the joy of watching a guy who just enjoys black powder. I want to move to Hungary 🇭🇺

[@jacobdavies8105]

En is ❤

[@guaporeturns9472]

You can enjoy black powder shooting in many countries

[@bobthompson4133]

After owning or drooling over modern guns in my youth I want old stuff now

[@Onethirtytwo]

I like how you shoot in such gentlemanly clothing like a button up shirt, vest and hat. I'm going to recommend this channel to next guy I see at the trap club shooting in shorts and crocs.

[@stevep5408]

That's cool that everyone gets a share of the game! It would be nice to have a segment on preparing, cooking, and eating the game you harvest!

[@capandball]

I am thinking about that.

[@jeffreygraf3358]

Amazing that you find all the old reloading tools!

[@pamtnman1515]

the old reloading tools, particularly the Hawksleys, are getting very difficult to find anywhere

[@MasterFatness]

Ah, yes. Been waiting a while for another hunting video. They are always brilliant. Thank you!

[@sandromicic6102]

Theres always something more special and intuitive with older firearms that modern ones cant really match Great video as usual to enjoy with a cup of coffee 👍🏻

[@Bhartrampf]

The form fit, function and gracefulness of them is definitely superior to modern guns.

[@user-zk8tg8ko1u]

Same! 😃☕

[@monotech20.14]

All new firearms look exactly the same. No great designs , nothing striking about them

[@rain8767]

@@monotech20.14 yes, even if the action is the same the way manufacturers made guns back then with their own signature touch in every gun is unparalleled. The action is the same, the method is the same but the firearms aren't the same.

[@johncashwell1024]

Impressive, all around. I just love to watch a good bird dog in action. It just amazes me how close a good dog can get, then hold before flushing the birds. To add to that everyone looked like they worked very well together: it is vital that everyone always knows where everyone else, at all times, in relation to themselves and then on the flush, where the bird is and where its flying in relation to everyone else. And by "everyone else", I mean everyone and the dogs too. Then you add in the beauty of blackpowder arms to the hunt and you have the makings of a fantastic day.

[@Darkestdarkify]

I liked hearing the Quaker instrumental the background.

[@jlpjlp1953]

Hungarian hunting traditions are impressive. Communication, respect and safety are all excellent (and necessary) parts of any shooting sport.

[@jacobmarley4907]

I used to hunt black powder in the 1970's with a replica 12 gauge English double in 12 made by Navy Arms. I now use a 12 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn (Soule) 1932 double with Krupp LaufStahl barrels. It was originally chambered for 2 1/2" shotshells (which I reloaded) however I rechambered the shotgun for 2 3/4" shotshells to take advantage of commercial non-toxic (bismuth) waterfowl shotshells. Thank you for a very good video and as always I appreciate the respect you give the game after the hunt. Keep up the good work.

[@JakobElbaek]

Beautiful video! I cannot imagine a weekend better spent than this.

[@NE-land-sea]

The gentlemen and respectful people on this channel is what we need more then anything in this time we all live in

[@stevebarzee7340]

What a joy. Thank you. I shoot BP shotguns mostly for hunting. So nice to see the group sharing knowledge and skill.

[@peteraugust5295]

The hunting outfits are absolutely fantastic. Such a joy to see.

[@Ghost338378]

Thanks

[@Ghost338378]

As always I learned more from you. I would someday love to hunt alongside you with Muzzleloader Shotgun before I'm no longer able to walk but always love to watch your skills and teaching through these videos. Please keep these awesome videos coming. You're friend in Australia..Gnome!

[@capandball]

@@Ghost338378 many thanks for the support and good words.

[@_FNQ]

So much dedication, knowledge, tradition and beauty in these presentations. What a joy.

[@shadetreemech290]

I'm jealous of you and the hunts that you have and the comradery you share.

[@gregajohnson1985]

look at that beautiful gun. even the screws are embellished. what a work of craftsmanship.

[@rupertmcnaughtdavis3649]

Even the camera was Old School! I love the way all your comrades keen up the tradition. Looking forward to seeing the rifle barrel of the Drilling in action. From South Africa.

[@NJPurling]

Lubitel 2. I had one. After I checked & re-set the infinity focus it shot very well.

[@joezuzolo9785]

Your president Katalin Novak recently visited my College in Kansas. I loved what she had to say to us students about Hungary. I hope to visit your country one day!

[@vulcangunner58]

Time afield with dogs and guns,...is time well spent! Thanks for bringing us along.

[@rogerjclarke]

A most enjoyable and informative video. The black powder hunting in Hungary looks like a wonderful experience. Thanks for posting.

[@drmoss_ca]

Nice to see there is still some hair under that cap. Your shooting gets even better by the time you lose it!

[@capandball]

:D quantity is still not a problem. Now the color... that's a different question. :D

[@stanwessler3623]

Good guns and good friends can't ask for much more than that. Yall take care and God bless you. Thanks for the great videos. 👍

[@jamiecook3966]

Incredable watching you and your small group of loyal Black Powder shooters. Your channel is credit. From Canada

[@frydemwingz]

You look so genuinely happy while shooting. I wish I had at least one friend that likes shooting black powder guns, Ive taken them out to my friends while we are doing some back yard shooting sometimes, but they dont see it as any more than a novelty and dont like to relax and actually enjoy reloading a gun for 2-3 minutes. That's really part of the therapy for me.

[@ianclark2450]

This is great. Also check out fin and Flask. He has been hunting ruffed grouse with an antique muzzleloader shotgun.

[@jamessulzer5105]

Now that's fun! And great working dogs in the field. Thanks for sharing. This brought back memories of hunting with my father and brothers in the fields of Pennsylvania.

[@branislavbucha9500]

I love your black powder guns and ammo vids. Thank you for them :)

[@holderfreak6053]

Ich bin selbst aktiver Schwarzpulver schütze und freue mich auf jedes neue Video von solch einem Begeisterten Schwarzpulver Kenner

[@dennishall9173]

I love your videos and this one is very special for me because of the old ways that is long forgotten and how people came together to feed their families, plus the new drilling is one of the guns that I have always wanted

[@mattsheed9671]

Greetings from England, very Enjoyable Video too View. Use to do Black powder shooting Not been Able to find any 12 Bore Black Powder Cartridges for a few years! Kind regards Matt.

[@iduswelton9567]

Went Dove hunting once- i didn't have a good time- the other hunters were drinking while hunting and i never felt safe around them- im mostly a deer hunter from either a ground stand or a tree stand not a stalker - im a patient hunter i dont fire unless ive a clear picture of what im hunting- mostly ive used a 20 gage shotgon - a Mosberg model 500C Country Squire in 3" mag using #1 buckshot

[@capandball]

Drinking and firearms does not match. We have a zero tolerance here for alcohol during hunting.

[@iduswelton9567]

Drinking and hunting is a felony that could put someone in jail for 1-5 years and up to a $10,000 fine

[@redtra236]

Those brass shells look neat, and awesome gun

[@oldsarj]

I have three shotguns with hammers that were built before 1898, two 12 gauges and a 16 ga. all with 2 1/2" chambers. I love them. One is even a nitro-proofed Damascus.

[@stephenland9361]

One evening a guy showed up at my local gun club trap shooting session and brought his breech loading, black powder shotgun. He was kind enough to let anyone shoot it who wanted a go. It got dark in the late evening and the black powder put on quite a show. First, a long blast of flame, which turned to thick smoke and finally the fall of burning embers from the cardboard wad. The smoke obscured your vision and you couldn't tell if you hit the clay or not. Overall, quite the experience!

[@cmonkey63]

I can appreciate that this is not to everyone's taste, but I like it. Especially the vintage black powder. To give some perspective, I am middle aged, and my grandfather used to shoot waterfowl in Northern Canada. Also deer, of which there are so many. Take only what you need, and be thankful.

[@Joe3pops]

Info: count the rifle grooves in your rifle barrel. If it's seven there's a high probability is Alexander Henry style rifling. Was designed specifically to lessen the effects of black powder fouling and the British army settled upon this rifling for thier Martini Henry rifles. From what I understand this 7 groove concept would be exceptionally difficult to reproduce using modern rifling methods. Strange but supposedly a true fact.

[@capandball]

Dear J, the Henry rifling is indeed an excellent rifling. I used to have a PH Volunteer rifle with this rifling and it shot perfect.

[@rotaman8555]

I hunt with a 1929 drilling. She is actually quite light and easy to handle. I enjoy adding new game species to her harvest tally. I love vintage fine arms and I appreciate all the great history you show on this channel. Thank you!

[@sidekickbob7227]

I fully agree with you. I love to hunt with my 1931 "Ferlach" hammerdrilling. The 20 gauge shotgun barrels allows it to be light and well balanced, so it's a joy to handle.

[@pamtnman1515]

Wonderful video, well done and thank you from Pennsylvania, USA

[@jeffe.9904]

Awesome Cap! Thank You for another GREAT Video.

[@aziscakep640]

Shotgun cartridges were invented in the 1860s. Most early shotgun cartridges had a brass case, just like rifle and pistol cartridges. A few manufacturers during 1870-1900 offered shotshells with paper cases, but the early paper cases swelled when wet and paper cases could not be reloaded as many times as brass cases.

[@brandontanis388]

My grandpa had a Veterelli in his antique shop when I was in my teens. I researched reloading the caliber but I was not set up to cast lead. I remember that the article talked about seating the bullet onto a .41 Swiss case to shave a heel into the bullet, then pulling it to seat on the Veterelli case. I think the reason for using the Swiss case was that the cases for his .41 Swiss center-fire conversion were thicker than the Veterelli cases. Buffalo Arms may have some components.

[@rando007]

This channel is the dream! I love this passion for black powder shooting, hopefully I'll get to do it too one day!

[@paulharding1621]

What a fabulous guns,I look forward to you developing the rifle cartridge for drilling. I have not shot pheasant and partridge for some years but a lasting memory is using a friends single barrel flint lock to take pheasants.

[@lawrencehudson9939]

I love drillings unfortunately they are above my budget. I do shoot black powder in brass cases for Cowboy Action Shooting. Lots of smoke as we have to get off four fast shots but I love it. Love your devotion to respecting the game you shoot a fine tradition I wish we had in America.

[@Tookarooks]

Most enjoyable, the hunt was beautiful to watch using traditional SxS shotguns used. Bon Apatite.

[@carlosdelvalle3729]

Thanks!

[@capandball]

Many thanks for the support!

[@kevinbietry7527]

Paper shells need to return. In 2000 I was enthusiastic about turning 11 soon and my mother let me grab the old 16 gauge out from the closet and shoot it off the front porch. I grew up on a farm so that's not as crazy as it might sound. These shells were old paper hulls and had a distinct aroma that I have never experienced in all of my shooting since.

[@capandball]

I agree with you definitely.

[@NoTimeAllTime]

My grandpa used to have all these old 12 gauge paper shells and some brass shells. I agree that there was something good about about firing off the paper shells that I can't fully explain.

[@jasondyer110]

That was an amazing video. Thank you so much for sharing your hunt with us.

[@SlickSixguns]

That shotgun is gorgeous

[@harryconnor5079]

Been too long since your last video my favourite channel on KZbin bar none 👌👌👌

[@holgerdanske3960]

Great video, very interesting showing reloading of black powder shells. I'm really like your videos. Informative and entertaining. Please keep'n running.

[@gtopp9619]

Absolutely wonderful video. Thanks for sharing it with us.

[@woohu2u2]

Great video! Along with my normal "modern" firearms I also own two rifles, one shotgun, and two pistols using black powder. I really enjoy the black powder weapons.

[@marekbrezina8088]

Very nice video, as always....

[@RogierYou]

Beautiful vintage reloading tools !

[@Bhartrampf]

That's a sweet reloading unit, mine are all separate. Great video as always. A great day in the field with black powder guns.

[@ronaldpoppe3774]

Great video I love shooting black powder shells. Need to get some brass shells though. Thanks. Cheers Ron

[@richardt.4224]

Great video (as usual) and I eco the sentiments re seeing more of your BP hunting videos. I have not met you in person, but I've been at a few MLAIC championships as a clay shooter. I got into serious BP clay shooting 30 years ago, it all stemmed from not wanting to shoot the bag limit of ducks and geese with modern, so to reduce those quanities, I turned to muzzle loading. My greatest joy is deaters day on the Craigmore Station/Farm pheasant shoot in New Zealand. If it's a wet day I use my BP cartridge hammer shotgun, but if dry, I have a NZ made muzzle loading 12g. I have tried brass 12g cases, but don't get on with them, so I use used plastic cases, but with BP they only last one shot, BP is just too hot. my load is 1 1/4oz shot (now dismuth) and the same volume 2FF. Back in my competition days, I practiced with 100 clay a week. I used powder bought from a fireworks company, it was their morter launch powder (they use compressed air now), it worked great, 😃. I found that practicing with a flint lock was best, as it improved my follow through. I'm now retired from competition, but still get out there with my shotguns. More black poder hunting videos please.

[@capandball]

Thanks Richard, good to see a member of the MLAIC family here! I am not using Swiss for my shotguns as cheaper powders seem to work well enough.

[@richardt.4224]

@@capandball I have only used Swiss in the flint primming powder form while I lived in Adelaide, South Australia. I was extraemly impressed with how well it worked! I used it in my 1780 Mortimer 14g flinter with great success and would even set the charge off while being held upside down, just amazing stuff! When I retired from comps, my two originals got sold, because I'm not a collector.

[@Justin69ford]

Have you cast the rifle chamber? I have a Sauer and Sohn with the rifle bore marked 10.4mm however it is not a Vetterli. I had to make the cartridges from brass 410 bore shells. The drilling shoots like a dream and is my go-to sporting arm.

[@gregorypennell1755]

Another wonderful episode! I’ve embarked on the black powder cartridge shotgun journey myself, with a very nice condition Belgian made side by side. Mine has Damascus barrels, so it is holy black all the way for me!

[@1248dl]

Thank you for sharing your enriching experience.

[@lalitakhorja8432]

Very good❤

[@dourmoose]

Beautiful drilling. ❤️

[@357Dejavu]

Looks like fun!

[@marcosaraiva9205]

Vert informative vid well done! Always learning something more !

[@mauser_c9687]

today is a good day. never know that there is smoothbore rifle+shotgun till now

[@71krim]

Takk!

[@capandball]

Many thanks for your support!

[@omkarkolge8848]

👍 so beautiful your country ,❤️👍💪😀 vid hunting 💓

[@wjgrind]

Another great one, thank you and good shooting. I load 65mm paper as well with BP and wish I could find a vintage loader like you use.

[@wjgrind]

Please email me capandball Not a text-er just an old shooter 😁

[@capandball]

@@wjgrind Somebody was cloning the capandball logo, and it was just a spam unfortunately.

[@wjgrind]

@@capandball No problem I thought as much, as nice as you are I sure you wouldn't gift me a new $6,000 pistol! I'm old and combat disabled but not stupid.

[@jamescooper2618]

This is a wonderful video, thanks so much for doing this! Im a long-time subscriber and this is one of my most favorite channels. That's a short list.

[@Vishal.456]

Excellent shotgun buddy

[@bakters]

You guys had fun all right, but the ones I'm truly jealous for are the dogs.

[@kevinamerio8105]

Fantastic video !!

[@davefellhoelter1343]

I can see the Dogs Smile even with a Bird in their mouth! Love a GOOD Dog! better to have a good dog than a good shot! sitting next to 2 GSP's now and they are training my Doberman to hunt?

[@Bayan1905]

I don't know which I prefer more, hunting with black powder cartridge shotgun or using muzzleloading shotguns or fowlers. The cartridge guns are easier to load, but I've used paper cartridges like you would for a musket just mine are filled with shot and they're pretty good.

[@WildwoodCastle]

Just what I needed to see for my new 1886 Parker Brothers 10ga. hammer gun...

[@glennhornby7439]

Love anything black powder hi from Australia I own a 45-120 high wall and also shoot black powder shotgun

[@montanamountainmen6104]

I have a Birmingham , London C.G. Bonehill 10 ga circa 1899. Can't wait to get it after birds.

[@brentv9901]

Excellent video. I love shooting old shotguns with black powder. I mostly load brass shotgun shells for cowboy action though. And yes, the 10.4 Italian vetterli ammo is something you will probably have to reload yourself. Maybe ammo selection is didn't over there but that's what I had to do for my vetterli.

[@Tex1680]

You can use 209 primers in the magtec brass case. Just have to drill out the hole to the right size.

[@donaldkamula7931]

Another great video. Thank you

[@exoplanet2013]

Fantastic, really appreciate the effort to bring such excellent content.

[@thorstenfleck-baustian8775]

Thank you for another great journey🤠Love to see the Vizsla working on their home turf, I hunt ptarmigan with ours👍🇳🇴

[@vitalymitsay1234]

Kiváló példa a patronok papírhüvelybe történő felszerelésére szolgáló eszközre. Gratulálunk a vásárláshoz!!! Számomra úgy tűnik, hogy a készletből hiányzik egy tölcsér a pálcák és a tolórúd felszereléséhez, talán elvesznek. Még egyszer köszönöm a kirándulást a füstös por fegyverek történetébe! Üdvözlettel, Vitaly. P.S. A sárgaréz hüvelyek puskaporának töltőanyaga helyett a borosüvegekből szeletelt dugókat lehet használni. 7...10 mm. puskapor és 3 ... 4 mm. a frakción, de jobb, ha egy speciális tölcséren keresztül helyezzük őket. A felvételek az eredmény szerint stabilak lesznek. P.p.s.... A tokaji bor dugói különösen jóak ...)))

[@chpet1655]

Who can resist a Drilling ? Sauer & Sohn on top of it ! I’m not going to say you are lucky to have it I’m going to say you are well deserved to own it ! Beautiful ! The proof markings are fascinating they really showed the potential customer the quality of the weapon. I wonder if most buyers actually knew what they all meant or if they just relied on their buyer to know his business. I’m just assuming most “gentlemen” back then would have a man to buy their guns for them.

[@rodsvintagesxschannel.3095]

I use 80gr charge 2f in my 12 gauges. I use 3/8" cushion wads in place of the cornmeal fillers. But i use the stiff over powder wad on top of the charge...then cushion...then half of a stiff card wad.. Then my shot..then a over shot card...then roll crimp..

[@Kane856]

Another brilliant, interesting and informative video 👍

[@passthataxe]

That's some cool reloading gear.

[@ditzydoo4378]

Wonderful, storied shoot. It's always a good day to take one vintage longarm out for a walk. ^~^

[@Afro408]

Great story as usual and well done team for a wonderful day’s Grouse hunting! 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃😁 When you loaded the brass cartridges and just fitted a tight card wad over he shot, I was wondering if you find that the load in the unfired barrel moves forward under the recoil and falls out? I have a lovely old Richard Redman 16 bore, Underlever, BP shotgun. I load brass cases for it and was just running a line of wood glue around the over-shot wad, but the left barrel charge would still come loose and dump the shot onto the ground when the gun was broken. I have successfully hunted rabbits with it, because we no longer have a game bird season where I live and it’s a joy to use. 😁 I have since made a crimping tool for these cases and it just closes the mouth of the case slightly, but I don’t get any more lost loads. 😁 Thank you for your efforts on this channel. It is one of the best on here. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@capandball]

I checked it and did not move at all. The cardboard is really tight fitting. 20 mm in diameter.

[@Afro408]

@@capandball Are those cases harder to load in the chamber, than an empty case?

[@gbrinfo]

Hi from France, a great ans beautiful video !

[@michaelsewell3706]

So fun and satisfying hunting with BP and dogs.

[@tomlubas1512]

If I was fortunate enough to own a drilling I'd hunt with it(deer or birds) no matter what it weighed.

[@Joe3pops]

Hunting Hungarian partridge in Hungary! Perfection

[@davidflanagan1653]

That looked like Great fun

[@user-zk8tg8ko1u]

Nice video again, Iam glad that I know your channel. And I see that S-ball plastic (shot cartrige) finds its way even to the Hungary! :D Those were good rounds for its age :) Thanks for your video and greetings from Czech republic 👋

[@capandball]

:) I had a few of those in my cabinet, that I never intended to fire. There case however looks excellent. :)

[@user-zk8tg8ko1u]

@@capandball I actually never fire them too :D But my father did and he said that they were good. But they dont produce them now. Those rounds are banned here, because it can penetrate bulletproof vest (from what I hear). So, Its kinda piece of history too :) And thanks for your videos again! Those are my inspiration for trying blackpowder one day :)

[@allenwilliams7847]

I would like to about the reloading press that youe using..Did they make reproduction of it?And what it is call?

[@capandball]

I have not seen any repro of it, but would make an excellent product for sure.