'Black Sails' Season 2 Interivew: Toby Schmitz and Clara Paget

Season 2 of Black Sails is heading into its second half and secrets are being revealed. No spoilers in case you haven’t watched it yet, but last week dropped a pretty huge bomb about Captain Flint’s (Toby Stephens) past. In present-day Nassau, there is a lot happening with Jack Rackham (Toby Schmitz), Max (Jessica Parker Kennedy) and Anne Bonney (Clara Paget) as well, though it’s a lot more subtle.
Power is shifting as Bonney discovers the depth of her feelings for Max and weighs that against her long history with Rackham. Just look at the threesome scene from the beginning of the season. It was far less about sex than it was about power; who could look who in the eyes and who was trying to escape their inner turmoil beneath the sheets.
I recently got a chance to visit the set of Black Sails in Cape Town, South Africa and chat with Schmitz and Paget about their characters and the power struggle that’s bringing up a lot of Bonney’s past and awakening things in her that she didn’t know were there. Make sure you stay tuned, because, in addition to the interview with Parker Kennedy and Zach McGowan we ran last week, we’ll have more coming up as the season progresses. When Season 3 premieres in 2016, we’ll have a bunch of sneak peeks and other big surprises.
Pirate fans will love this tidbit I learned from Starz Managing Director Carmi Zlotnick: They’re discussing how to bring in real-life Bonney and Packham cohort Mary Read. Schmitz and Paget weigh in on this as well.
Toby Schmitz and Clara Paget:
:08 - Paget and Schmitz talk about the shifting dynamics of Bonney and Rackham’s years-long relationship.
1:50 - A discussion of the threesome and the shifting balance of power between Max, Bonney and Rackham.
3:08 - Paget discusses the strong female characters in the show and Schmitz gives his take on the celebration and simultaneous reviling of women who step outside gender roles. (Quick tease of next week’s show, but not a spoiler.)
4:39 - Why Max and Bonney can’t be public about their relationship.
5:11 - How the show could bring in real-life pirate Mary Read.
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[@walfredodellagherardesca1739]

Toby is the best actor in the series but not many seem to have noticed.....super expressive, very talented!

[@Barnsey3288]

Jack is my favourite character so far. I think they need to utilise him a bit more.

[@LilyFitzgerald]

Same, he's so crafty. Apparently I dig that.

[@isaacgrajo1292]

he's the equivalent of tyrion in game of thrones. the guy who's always at a disadvantage but is just too clever.

[@sternerregnix2612]

Brains over Brawn but he still ends up feeding the Crows.

[@julijakeit]

I can see him in Hollywood soon. Also, I ship him with Clara.

[@FriendlySniper]

The threesome scene was so hilarious. Anne's expressions when she notices Max and Jack getting intimate were priceless. Her face was like "the fuck's going on here?!?"

[@VDA19]

I like how she gets a bit jealous after. Some people think that she is no longer attracted to Jack after she gets on with Max, but it's clear she has feelings for both

[@LUR1FAX]

Something this show gets right is the female characters. They're not "strong" in the overpowered, flawless Marvel sense. They're strong characters because they're complex characters with flaws and big character arcs. And they didn't turn all the male characters into weasels as an attempt to make the female characters seem better. The writing for all the characters is great in the show. They absolutely nailed it.

[@tonywoutrs]

After all, this show was from a time before the girl power trope metastasized its way into Hollywood. It's fascinating how the pursuit of countering sexism came to the expense of good writing for female characters.

[@bensonen6855]

Yeha 100% agree, when Anne gets the best of a much larger guy in a fight, it's believable, she fights dirty. And she's hot, unrelated but even with the angry face, she's so hot

[@mat7083]

@@bensonen6855And she’s loyal to her man and would die before losing him.

[@kate-lv1rb]

they're both so pretty.

[@jinzokrim9979]

Bonny gives you the feeling that she could slit your throat at any moment and in the same time you can feel her love toward Jack , Clara did an awesome job , she gave us the only true badass female character in TV i wish we will see her in other projects very soon

[@Prog4Prog]

I think all the major female roles in this series were badass. Elenor, Max, the brothel madam, The Maroon queen, Elenor’s grandma... all absolute power house roles.

[@jinzokrim9979]

@@Prog4Prog Yeah man you are right they were all badass characters but what I meant by badass in the case of Boney is that she is the best and the most realistic woman fighter I've ever seen on tv.

[@Prog4Prog]

@@jinzokrim9979 Oh, I see what you mean! Yeah, she’s a proper pirate wench. What an incredible show and such a shame it stopped at 4, the ending left for an interesting story for 5 what with the introduction to Mary Read to Jack’s crew.

[@jinzokrim9979]

@@Prog4Prog For me it was the best action tv serie I've ever seen , and yes it's a shame that we didn't have another seasons but I am also glad that they didn't ruin it like other tv shows ... But that being said it's still hope for us to get the Treasure Island tv shows since Black Sail could be considered as it's Prequel ^^

[@jinboy4813]

I think what makes her so badass, is that she's realistic. She isn't a fantasy assassin, whose a hardened fighter, but looks like a model at the same time. She looks the part if you know what I mean.

[@bruceaisher]

Wow Clara Padget is absolutely stunning. This is the best series on TV without a doubt.

[@Madmazellina]

Only after sons of anarchy

[@robinandrew1223]

How the hell did Toby pull off that beautiful polished British accent - Whoa, that was super impressive - EVERYTHING he did was impressive but I wish he did more fighting than relying on Ann for all the kills and dirty work. I LOVED her!!

[@yourmother638]

British accent is very close to his native tongue. British and Australian is very close

[@pastilanbataa147]

both looked rugged and soiled as pirates but legendary. and as a modern person in this interview they're stunningly flawless. hahaaa the contrast they can truly make a persona out of their true selves. great actors.

[@fike2951]

i did not expect him to be australian

[@VDA19]

Luke Arnold is as well.

[@BlackVelvetDaydream]

What was always so interesting to me about Ann Bonny is that she's so cagey. Like, she seems for all the world as something of a combination between furtive and brutish. Quiet, unfriendly, reserved, prone to acts of physical violence. Kind of like a snake. She wants to be left alone and when people don't leave her alone, she bites them. But then she has this intriguing relationship with Jack Rackam, and later with Max, and it makes you wonder what's going on inside her head.

[@foreverafangirl713]

Are they wearing matching bracelets? So cute.

[@LittlePixieGreen]

Great questions on the interviewer's part! They really got the actors talking about interesting and deeper aspects of the show and the actors really seemed to enjoy this one. Really professional : D

[@user-hg5ss9vm6v]

Ann:"All will be good..." Jack:"Love your optimizm". Scenes like this, makes me laugh out loud😂

[@zebraneighbor6383]

Toby without sideburns took me a second to recognize him lol

[@mulder19x95]

I honestly though I would hate this show because of Michael Bay and I am honestly super impressed at how great the show really is!

[@mackeywhaleboy]

Malcolm Reynolds i think one of the best things about the show is; that they had a story to tell, it started and ended perfectly, leaving us wanting more, but knowing that more wouldnt have been a good thing. Which is sad for the show and the actors, and us. Heres to hoping they do treasure island series at some point in the future, in the meantime im going to rewatch the series and pay a lot more attention to everything happening in the background, as i was so focused on the main characters and watching them id love to pay more attention to the scenery haha

[@sjs6266]

loved the whole series. every one has played his part amazingly awesome.

[@sternerregnix2612]

Except Tom Hooper. Billy Bones. Terrible terrible actor.

[@Janaparnikova]

+Sterner Regnix not true, he's very good actor and a very charming one. writing is terrible.

[@osmanov7783]

The most beautiful couple.

[@yourstalker7386]

holy crap he's hot.....did not see that coming! lol

[@CallardAndBowser]

How many people are thinking that Toby Schmitz would be the perfect cast for the next James Bond? I do !

[@reallivebluescat]

never realised he was aussie

[@kallo182]

Its amazing how different, normal Toby looks in this Interview. He have a complett different Mimic when he play Jack Rackham.

[@pepinozinanasshole]

He really talks exactly like that int he TV show as well

[@applelynch6980]

+Oliver Draathelvete yes . its real nice

[@FantasyVisuals]

Oh my goodness. She is gorgeous 💕

[@rockingodzilla]

They look like they could be related! And their both absolutely gorgeous!

[@roseimmad3079]

Clara is Amazing the whole cast is amazing

[@ecwinste]

They look so much better in real life.

[@antred11]

ecwinste I think they look great on and off the show!

[@MalcolmRandall]

They look like a young Keanu Reeves and Olivia Wilde.

[@antoniocenteno4959]

MalcolmRandall He looks more like Chris Hemsworth without the beard

[@LUR1FAX]

Australian Keanu Reeves.

[@stephen_jc]

@@antoniocenteno4959 wow skinny Chris Hemsworth

[@E180TEKNO]

tres belle actrice frenchement et lui j'aime bien dans son role de jack rachkam il joue super bien

[@lassedk4955]

WE FUCKING WANT A SEASON 5!!!

[@000wanderlust]

Whoa she looks like a red haired and blue eyed natasha negovanlis (carmilla)...both beautiful

[@ferofax]

Why is the interview without her own mic?

[@VaterOrlaag]

4:35 But that's not true - people knew about Max and Eleanor, we even see a brothel customer complaining that "She keeps you all for herself!"

[@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian]

It's amazing what a bar of soap can do in the right hands lol

[@jinboy4813]

Bruh fr

[@ericsonofjohn9384]

Fuck's sake, I was hoping his accent was his actual one. Great actor

[@jinboy4813]

Same. His English accent in the show as well his witty humour went so well.

[@samsmith8870]

She keeps my Black Sails at full mast lol

[@FeverFromDaBronx]

I luv the role that she plays......if you really break it down.......she is gangsta in that show

[@7PabloEP]

❤😍❤

[@user-id3dg7en8z]

Isnt that the dad of clara schimdt

[@josemiguelq]

f ck i love anne bonny character

[@85Aheadstix]

Rackham and Anne bonny!

[@atunrandom7765]

Anne is so different from Clara, Clara is beautiful MG

[@ktoth29]

Weird hearing their native accents

[@brandonkeller478]

Max substitutes for Mary Read or that could be Max's real name

[@vivianveenstra9559]

I am from the future: mary read is in the series!!

[@arabianprince7508]

Jack is hot

[@alexman378]

How is Nassau patriarchal in season 2? Eleanor was running the island.

[@ben.ny_si.ms2000]

Alexander Angelus I think they’re more talking about the world they live in as being very patriarchal, and even with Eleanor running the island, a lot of the pirates freaking hate her.

[@run4walk]

Black Sails was a fantastic through and through, but let's not pretend that Anne fancying Max wasn't the most predictable thing since Billy surviving his fall.

[@jake3736]

how tf can you have the most posh accent ever and then have the trashiest accent in the show

[@Nohandle1125]

That Toby is a Daddy. Yum 😋

[@JohnnyOutlaw100]

I want more Max and Bonny. Romantically. Bonny is better for Max than Eleanor ever was. If Mary Read does come into the picture, it should be JackxMary. Keep Bonny and Jack platonic, they were never romantic in the show in my opinion, simply co-dependent. Even Anne says toward the end of the season "It's different with Max, I'm not your wife Jack, we're simply partners." If they bring Mary in, let her be Jack's romantically. Just my two cents.

[@24Kurenai]

no Max needs to be with her future husband John Silver, just like the book implies, Anne can bang Reed and then they can be in a crap plot together.