Black Shorts From Hawaii: the protective clan of the waves - Gang Surf - Documentary

[@Eesile]

Je m’attendais à un docu un peu sensationnel sur la violence des locaux mais quelle belle surprise de découvrir leurs réflexions autour de leur culture et de la colonisation qui dépasse largement ça, super docu

[@reddiver7293]

All that lofty talk is a red herring to distract you from the self serving violence they perpetrated on locals and outsiders alike.

[@BobbyAlThor]

Ouais, enfin : "à cet endroit (Pipeline), chaque année, on dénombre des dizaines de morts", ça c'est du bon sensationnalisme !

[@LUCKYMONKEY230]

Les chosent ont peut-etre changés, mais ca reste une belle archive du gang culture dans le surf. C'est important de comprendre l'histoire pour savoir d'ou vient la culture surf, sous toutes ses formes

[@marcmelpo972]

Buttons was such a LEGEND!! RIP braddah ❤

[@jimrehman904]

I was a skinny long blonde haired 19 year old Kid from NY when I moved straight to the apts literally in front of the V-land channel in 1979 and brought my 1978 MR Twin. I quickly became friends with Perry Dane, Jr, Alika, Squiddy, Buttons, Timmy Cavalo and the rest of the V land boys as they would hang on my porch smoking and watching the surf and MTV. I watched on the beach from 5 yards away as Perry collapsed the left eye socket of Johnny Boy who just started surfing v land from the west side. He disrespected Timmy Labrador in the Line up. He never saw it coming... Met Eddie after I worked at T&C sanding surfboards which sponsored his kids. He had a tight hold on the North shore. No joke. . He later built many homes all along the backyards beach front.I liked and respected him as he was always friendly to me. I lived there 18 beautiful years. Was a surfer kids dream come true. Aloha Hawaii!!

[@imuahayn8082]

good old days when v-land was regulated, only a handful of boys out, miss those days, was there when Johnny Boy returned from hospital , looking for Perry , riding his bike while carrying a bat lol

[@jimrehman904]

@@imuahayn8082 Good old days yea.We probably met at some point... After, Perry told me he was so freaked out by the damage he did, "I didn't`t want to hit him that hard" that he left the beach and went to Eddie to get some comfort. He was afraid of the westside boys counter action. I didn't`t know about the bike and bat.LOL

[@Collin-ic9ct]

Respect the people and their home

[@itcantbetruebutis7778]

Def

[@dasak67]

Quand le leader de ton groupe de surfeurs hawaiens chargé de proteger la culture locale est un juif de Philadelphie qui s'appelle Rothman c'est qu'il y a un gros probleme. C'est quand meme un groupe de grof beauf au final. Ils ont malheuresement perdu leur bataille car Hawai est maintenant complement colonisé et qu'ils sont au final un reflet de cette colonisation. Ils se cachent derriere leur tradition polynesienne alors que leur unique but est de surfer leurs vagues sans partager et se faire un peu d'argent au passage. C'est un reportage sur le localisme et comment des colons se font passés pour des locaux pour s'imposer comme l'amerique sait tres bien le faire

[@Alexander-Kurtz]

Très sensationnaliste ce documentaire...

[@nicolasbureau108]

Merci Antoine Laguerre sans frontière

[@reddiver7293]

Fast Eddie and the Hui, the Black Shorts gang. They were surfers that were also drug dealers and enforcers. Cross them in any way, and it didn't take much, and hella violence would rain down. If you were not a member, you could forget surfing Rocky Point. Fast Eddie was a very shrewd guy. So extensive was their influence on the North Shore that they were on the radar of at least two federal agencies. But fast Eddie was always two steps ahead of them. That was then. We are all kupuna now. And I have no idea who controls the underworld out there these days. Eddie's two sons have become legendary wave riders in their own right. Even at the height of my surfing the North Shore, I never wanted to live out there with that uneasy mixture of locals and crazy transient surfers. It always felt so good to have a session, get some beer at Paalaa Kai store and drive back into town. The hell away from all that madness.

[@reddiver7293]

@@jimrehman904 Pipe, dips**t

[@jbsoleil]

Un sport magnifique ! rempli de personne avec un Ego énorme et méchant parce que c'est leur vague mais leur vague est a l'océan .... paradoxe ! vive la glisse

[@eaglehawaii4979]

Da Hu'i respect da ocean and protect it from those who don't !!! 808 Mahalo nu'i lo'a 🌊🏄🤙

[@jeremys2364]

Good video explaining about the northshore vibe, respect & disrespect, plus water safety mentality. ALOHA

[@nomindisponible5420]

On voit clairement qu'ils aiment mieux le surf que la baston, ils ont l'air cools 🙏

[@hach2129]

Cool l'idée 🤙. Faudrait parler aussi ,des "BRA-BOYS" d'Australie... Ils étaient chaud eux aussi..

[@beaulandexavier5486]

Oui et encore plus cons.

[@Bastuun]

I was expecting more from this movie. Still cool.

[@dundee3555]

Trop bon de réentendre la chanson de fin ❤

[@highthl6395]

Fui pro Havaí no final dos anos 90, o cara arrumou problema comigo só porque eu sou brasileiro, mandou eu e um amigo ficar quieto porque o nosso idioma estava incomodando ele, falou que ia me esperar lá fora não importasse quanto tempo demorasse pra eu sair do mar, eu respondi pra ele, vamos agora então, mano a mano! Coloquei pra dormir, ai acordou puto da cara e falando que era pra eu ir embora da ilha que ele iria voltar com os Black Trunks, ele só não sabia que eu treinei com o Tom Callos e na mesma época um tal de BJ Penn estava começando no bjj também, treinava comigo até ir treinar com o Ralph e depois ir pro RJ, quando os líderes ficaram sabendo que eu já estava um tempo lá e que eu conhecia vários brasileiros que eram respeitados por eles, eu acabei fazendo a amizade com o Makua, filho do Eddie, já se passaram mais de 20 anos e até hoje eu sou bem recebido quando eu vou pra lá! Conselho que eu deixo para os mais novos, tem esse tipo aí na água até hoje.. se arrumarem confusão com você, tens 2 escolhas, primeira é ir no mano a mano e quebrar o cara ou colocar o rabo entre as pernas e sair fora! Eles respeitam quem é mais maluco que eles, foi assim que os Brasileiros conseguiram respeito por lá, ensinando jiu-jitsu e pegando onda gigante na remada, ah e o rapaz que arrumou problema comigo, é meu amigo até hoje kkkkk

[@Collin-ic9ct]

Too many Brazilians brought negative vibes and huge crowds. You're trying to equalize yourself with martial arts instead of respecting their space

[@highthl6395]

@@Collin-ic9ct Nós trazemos vibrações negativas? Vocês que aplicavam essa vibração negativa em todos os estrangeiros, não estou tentando igualar nada, só dizendo que o Brasileiro começou a ser aceito no Havaí muito por causa do Jiu-Jitsu e porque a gente não tem medo de vocês, no Rio de Janeiro vocês não durariam 1dia agindo do jeito que vocês agiam até poucos anos atrás! Tá na hora de vocês buscarem a independência de vocês, já que vocês odeiam até os Norte Americanos e nem se consideram como um deles! Eu tive que ganhar meu respeito a força quando fui pro Havaí, algo que nunca aconteceu em outro lugar do mundo! Vocês expulsavam a galera da ilha sob ameaça de morte e nós que somos a vibração negativa, Havaiano detectado kkkkkkkkkkk

[@jimrehman904]

@@highthl6395 I was there during the late '80s Brazilian "invasion". I was friends with the first several Brazilian girls( we loved them) that broke their tourist visas to live there illegally to clean houses, marry American surfers and surf. They lived across the street from V-land. I respected them. The guys accumulated around rocky point near the Gracie home. Not so much respect for them during the initial times. You guys had no respect for anyone on any of the waves.I never had any serious problems because I respected. Just like in Brasil, everyone dropped in on everyone. I know, I lived in Brasil since 1995. It was a culture thing. But it was actually 2 things going on that changed the way people thought of Brazilian surfers over time. Jiu-Jitsu and Brazilians themselves changing their way of thinking about how to surf with others. Today in Brazil, drop-ins are not the rule of the day. Abraço!!

[@marceloliveira6212]

Caraca, que história irada essa! 💯👊🏼

[@fidjivanoe2015]

J’adore la visite dans le bureau 😂 lui il aime seulement prendre la vague 🌊

[@pascalbeltrami2919]

interressant ce docu, pas assez creusé mais pas mal. Fast Eddy , un drôle de zigotto... J'étais à Hawaii lors du premier Eddy Aikau, il y avait les hawaïens et aussi les bigwaves riders de l'époque. Il y avait du respect entre tous. peut etre un peu noir/blanc tout ça.

[@rollsgracie268]

Things keep changing and growing story life

[@stevenclever]

English Sub-Titles??

[@JeffreyMcgee-w1u]

Aloha my surf Brad's much love to all you

[@Zensei987]

Pour préciser le surf est né à Tahiti mais il s'est popularisé à Hawaii pour et par la société de consommation américaine, en reo tahiti Hui veut dire battre/rosser

[@WiNd-SuRf]

Je me suis retrouvé au milieu d' un groupe de black short a Maui Ho'okipa (coté droit du spot) en 2012 c'etait des bon gros C....... c'était tous des blancs américains par contre.. pas de vrai hawaiiens.. Gros niveau.. aerial 360 etc mais ils te suivent , attrapent ton leash, Go home etc.. A l'inverse les vrais hawaiens sont tres cool en general J'ai un super souvenir d'un hawaiien en longboard sur une vague de 2 ou 3 m qui me fait le signe aloha en me rasant la tronche alors que je passait la barre .. xD

[@dylanmcney]

Where is there a version of this film in english without the french translation overlay of the video?

[@TaxiDocs]

Nop there is not.

[@cory_hugs7850]

@@TaxiDocsit was made in English 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TaxiDocs]

@@cory_hugs7850 What do you mean ? Original version is in french. Do you mean the interviews ?

[@guimoule9214]

​@@cory_hugs7850 vous pensez pas que ce sont juste des Français qui ont fait ce reportage ?? Êtes vous complètement idiot ou juste tellement fermé sur le monde qui vous entoure ?? Sûrement les deux, ça va ensemble !!!

[@romualdtorcal4428]

Aucune agressivité Des locaux très sympa

[@adamlorden5666]

37:06 that bruddah faceplanted real good.

[@vegaguajira96]

Faut! McNamara a surfé la plus grande vague jamais surfé à Nazaré au Portugal 3:31

[@AlbanCoville]

Ils disent de respecter les règles mais en seulement quelques vagues, on voit que eux ne respectent pas les règles de base du surf.

[@demistoclesps5465]

Yo soy caballero de playa de inglés tenemos nuestro enemigo Maspalomas que aveces trabajamos juntos ,anuario machos , y chao ,vale fácil fácil

[@bonbondesel]

En fait c'est pas vraiment des règles mais une tentative de garder leurs spots pour eux en réaction à l'attraction qu'ils génèrent et aux problématiques liées à l'étatisation d'Hawaii par les américains qui a créé une perte de territoires et une certaine déculturation. Évidemment ils ne vont pas dire de manière assumée ça. Après l'extrêmisme dans leur comportement est aussi une conséquence de l'extrême accaparation des spots par les étrangers. Du coup ils donnent les excès inverses en retour et c'est des innocents qui payent. C'est un défouloir pour certains locaux. Les règles en fait c'est eux ils font ce qu'ils veulent y a des endroits qu'ils réservent, sinon ils font des choses pas légales. Mais bon maintenant apperement le North Shore c'est plus aux hawaïens...

[@xisotopex]

started by a jewish guy from philadelphia ....

[@shacktime]

Nope. He was instrumental but not the main founder. He was adopted by the group.

[@reddiver7293]

@@shacktime Fast Eddie was the leader.

[@shacktime]

@@reddiver7293 He rose to that position later. He was adopted into the North Shore ohana by the other founding members and they collectively created it in response to disrespectful visitors who descended on the North Shore to make names for themselves without concern for the locals. Now, if you want to get into the weeds about who’s a bigger thug look up the Bayonet Constitution. Is Rothman a saint? Hardly. But the North Shore was a better regulated and far less chaotic scene at the height of Da Hui’s powers.

[@Mikemaxbros]

I think he lived in HB for a while as well

[@reddiver7293]

@@Mikemaxbros I heard he was sleeping rough in Kailua and was taken in by Henry Huihui. The 70s saw some really rough mob action in the news.

[@bradcoetzee]

The thumbnail image in the background is from an incident in Port Alfred South Africa :D

[@srfnma6813]

Vieux documentaire absolument plus d’actualité….. pour ceux qui connaissent le north shore….

[@77pebble]

Ok but this is 22 years old and likely to have changed. So how is the north shore like now?

[@shacktime]

@@77pebble Taken over by rich Brazilians and corporate developers.

[@srfnma6813]

@@shacktime exactly

[@zambla974]

Sa parle mais a l'epoque y avait persone qui s'y frottait😂👌🤘🤘

[@srfnma6813]

@@zambla974 non c totalement faux, pour tres bien connaitre le coin, deja il y a enormement de spots et en plus quand c gros le tri se fait naturellement...concernant ces mecs ils etaient sympa et il fallait juste les respecter.,,, en plus vu leur embonpoint ils n'etaient que rarement a l'eau quand c'etait gros. c juste du cinema pour faire croire a des naifs comme toi

[@bastien9419]

Le petit c’est koa rothman?

[@FranckP-lk1ez]

C est le rock

[@andromede6556]

Aloha!

[@timbere]

i've a very friend from dahui, Picuruta Salazar

[@RNaturee]

Esse era casca grossa!

[@SupremeAuto808]

First it was our waves, but it was always about our LAND…. RESPECT is all we wanted! Aloha means Hello and Good bye… You can Funk off if you don’t respect that!

[@shacktime]

You guys needed to do better in school to learn how to build strong businesses so that you could acquire your land. Now it’s mostly bought up by corporate interests from all over the world. Work smarter, not harder. It’s not too late but the sands of time are against you. Build a united front, learn the law, pool resources, and band together to beat the Robber Barons at their own game.

[@DQuanAlSamirOHoulihan]

looks like you want ice more than anything,

[@jackstrawfromwitchita5978]

give respect earn respect….

[@shacktime]

@@DQuanAlSamirOHoulihan Hawaii’s ice epidemic is a byproduct of the manufactured despair and institutionalized poverty that’s been pushed on the Hawaiian people since the Bayonet Constitution and forced annexation, which was completely illegal. It’s EXTREMELY hard to make a living in Hawaii. And that’s by design. You’re blaming the effect for the cause.

[@DQuanAlSamirOHoulihan]

@@shacktimeThat sounds Hot and all but I am Not blaming anything or anyone, I am Just stating facts.

[@rollsgracie268]

The genocide things, a bit funny for stability. Rothman is Jewish for starters. And humans been picking on the week since the beginning of time to catch a star in the middle somewhere and decide this is where it started But at the same time I’m sure they do wrong but I’m sure there’s some right to in terms of people coming over and trying to put their spin on it. That’s not cool they need to be checked at the same time it’s foggy black-and-white good and bad like everything.

[@raskalitodelapanpa8064]

la malice des colons me dégoute puisse t'il y avoir justice un jours et que la terre revienne a qui de droit amen

[@ramboenslip3612]

j ai plus de respect pour un insecte ou une fleur que pour ce genre de type

[@LgallupDz3]

Is that young @koarothman

[@TheGratty]

yep

[@7siamesecat]

The Rothman family is originally from... Philadelphia 😂

[@jimrehman904]

Yea but that is how smart and cunning Fast Eddie was... could you do that? 😂

[@nomindisponible5420]

C'est quoi le line up ?

[@emmanuelboulzat6745]

De toute façon c'est en général que les surfeurs font les kiki sur les plages c'est ma c'est ma vague il y en a pour tout le monde normalement quand on est intelligent

[@mariosoares1504]

Violence in the water

[@minahkinevideos2455]

Y'all forget about Imua!

[@goosejvdlr5718]

2:57 des dizaines d'accidents grave par an oui, mais pas de mort ! Il y a une 15zaine de décés depuis les années 60 si je dis pas de bêtises

[@JeffreyMcgee-w1u]

To my bradas Nicky nickos here

[@hach2129]

Sa aurait du rester sa le surf!!!! "Tu touche ma vague, jte casse les dents" !

[@captainscum5726]

Sympa la mentalité d homme de cro magnon

[@helnorse]

kooks!!!

[@davidguigan5357]

Tu prend une vague et tu oublie tout tes probleme....biensur...car a ce moment...ou tu prend la vague...ta vie est instantanement mise en dangez right now..donc tu est focus a 100%....heeee oui a ce moment la tu oublie tout tes problemes car le probleme est derriere toi et mesure 4m/8m....et gronde....il faut precisez.....

[@MrAloha76]

😎🤙🏾

[@wilfredlopes7474]

The hui aloha 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙❤

[@JeffreyMcgee-w1u]

Brad Das correction we helped on Maui homes Aloha

[@gunnerblaskey8864]

Eddie Rothman.... a fuckin legend... warrior Kingdom of Hawai'I Aloha❤

[@bradrielly7031]

A Jewish guy from Philly pretending to be a Hawaiian god but in actuality just a thug!

[@vincenzodaddy1223]

Sottotitoli?

[@cory_hugs7850]

Now it’s a free for all shit show at pipe, the new generation Hawaiian pipe surfers are didn’t keep the ball rolling, either don’t have it in them or scared of losing sponsors for someone recording them regulating, Vans, Volcom, WSL, see one of there riders on instagram beating the shit out of a kook in the lineup there most likely getting dropped 😂

[@shacktime]

No. The courts began to intervene. The videos going viral all the time without the backstory hasn’t helped matters. Most people just see the violence sans the context.

[@susigan]

"Protetor das ondas🙄🙄"

[@hawaiianitedivah]

We call them “Hui of He’e Nalu”… it’s not GANG….

[@jpmor7327]

" respect us because we were born here " meanwhile hes smoking his meth pipe in a van. Yes royalty for sure.

[@OGmikeDtw5xL]

Rest in aloha buttons❤

[@JeanMaro-y3u]

Maururu Eddy from huahine totara

[@stephenfrancis303]

Makua go backdoor makua! Dang lil grom koa he still looks the same

[@taosmar1]

let the bruddahs speak without the zfrench overlay....damn!

[@DQuanAlSamirOHoulihan]

Why, just let the jew from Philly speak for them.

[@jeanro3395]

Rothman n’est pas un Hawaiien, bien raciste dans ces propos sur les blancs alors que lui même est un juif blanc de Philadelphie 😂 et que la plupart sont blancs et blonds, à jouer les gros bras en insultant, zéro classe avec toujours cette arrogance des américains sinon oui respect pour Bottum et tous les vrais hawaïens comme the Duck❤

[@peterlmallard8963]

Such a shame they couldn't protect Lahaina and Maui from the criminal cabal but then maybe they are complicit.

[@jaimeglenn1540]

__________________✍️

[@chils888]

1 commentaire... c'est triste pour un si beau sujet es algorithmes enterre cette culture?!

[@vincentbernard1974]

en meme temps c'etait vrai ya 12 ans ce sujet, plus aujourdhui ... pourquoi le resortir ? bonne quesion !

[@Toprecria777]

Nao tem legenda 😅

[@FranckP-lk1ez]

On fait la même chose chez nous… du moins on essaie

[@bobross5079]

drug runnahzzzzzzzz

[@shacktime]

When good paying jobs are scarce and foreigners are pricing you out of your own land drug dealing becomes one of the few viable options. Institutionalized poverty and manufactured despair necessitates criminal enterprises. This is how the Irish and Italian mobs in the U.S. were forced into being. They were denied opportunities at every turn and had little choice.

[@oKrawzFull]

WE ARE MAUNAKEA

[@shacktime]

The technology developed by the Astronomy Precinct does more to protect Hawaii and Hawaiians from the threat of cataclysmic events more than anything else available. You should be proud that there are kanaka maoli who work there and are helping to prove that native Hawaiians can be scientific vanguards on the global stage. After all, astronomy is a rich part of the Hawaiian origin story.

[@raymondstebbins5904]

🫶🏝️💪

[@richevans609]

Just so everyone knows. Hawaii is Overwhelmingly Democrat. 🤷‍♂️

[@timbere]

out houle !! dont put the wax in the beach !!!

[@rollsgracie268]

The genocide things, a bit funny for stability. Rothman is Jewish for starters. And humans been picking on the week since the beginning of time to catch a star in the middle somewhere and decide this is where it started But at the same time I’m sure they do wrong but I’m sure there’s some right to in terms of people coming over and trying to put their spin on it. That’s not cool they need to be checked at the same time it’s foggy black-and-white good and bad like everything.