the delivery of ‘i can’t reach you, so i imagine alone’ breaks my heart
@VEOIXX Жыл бұрын
Same :(
@persimm Жыл бұрын
While Ivan’s Black Sorrow sounds like he’s grieving someone hopelessly , i feel like mizi version sounds more vengeful and almost angry.
@notaperson79868 ай бұрын
Exactly what I felt like too, the tone felt more aggressive than when Ivan sang it. Definitely what Mizi would sing after losing Sua.
@ELISE876544 ай бұрын
agreed
@lillieluvskatz95214 ай бұрын
since black sorrows is aimed at till , to mizi its aimed at sua ( her death)
@พัณณิตา17-9023 ай бұрын
❤
@nicilysm2 ай бұрын
Ivan is really grieving now 😭😭
@Magdalena-rh4mu Жыл бұрын
Mizi's version going strong since the beginning instead of building up like Ivan's. How should I say it, you can definitely feel the sorrow, yet hers and Ivan's sorrows are totally different. Same emotion but both give you different feelings and you could sense it from the voices... Fascinating!
@Akipoutark Жыл бұрын
interpretation Feels like ivan was trying to keep his emotion in check during his song until he finally broke towards the end. emotions pouring in after all the buildup meanwhile mizi is already broken she has nothing to hold back. so she gives her all both versions really fit well their story context . I love how the songs interpretation changes in both of the circumstances. This song was very well written
@wisteria0971 Жыл бұрын
@@Akipoutarkperfect explanation
@tzatwar Жыл бұрын
yes ! very different kinds of longing
@aggie_ariyo8 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s the same
@Vinyr_8 ай бұрын
My little sister heard this cover and said "Ivan better bcz mizi sounds flat" 🤦🤦
@OkOk-fr9jv3 ай бұрын
Reminder that Rubyeye(Mizi voice) said she was thinking of Sua when singing this
@anamariamalo Жыл бұрын
It has a very different vibe compared to Ivan's. Sounds like a version that she would sing AFTER what happened to Sua, and not before...
@meiyosei78 Жыл бұрын
I think that also shows from the illustration. There's a blood splash on her face, and her eyes look distant and maybe full of resentment
@annseotan80499 ай бұрын
I listened to the song after reading 2 top comments saying that both original and this version are sad but somehow differently. And after trying to hear it to myself I think the difference is that Ivan sounds really resigned while Mizi here sounds angry?
@danalynch1188 ай бұрын
@@annseotan8049 definitely. She’s angry about it more than sad. Of course she’s sad but in this song it shows how her anger overshadowing her sorrow, unlike Ivan’s who sounds resigned bc unlike till with mizi, he’s accepted that he’s unreachable and will never be I love with him
@jade-ny8dn Жыл бұрын
Mizi's version is insane! The contrast between resentment for Mizi, and yearning for Ivan literally makes my heart ache for both of them. They're both soooo gooooooodd!
@Вера-е3н4х Жыл бұрын
Who is she Mizi ?and how is this related to Ivan, please explain
@jade-ny8dn Жыл бұрын
@@Вера-е3н4х I meant the contrast between their covers, they give off different feelings imo despite singing the same song.
@barbaragenshin98482 ай бұрын
@@Вера-е3н4хgirl go watch all the rounds
@barakito Жыл бұрын
wow this is so good, her version sounds so sad and bitter, instead of yearning like ivan
@쩡이-r5r Жыл бұрын
블랙 소로우.. 이반이 불렀을때는 간절함과 애절함이 잔뜩 느껴졌었는데, 미지 버전은 어딘가 원통함과 서글픔이 느껴지는군요...
@으에벱 Жыл бұрын
어쩐지 증오도 조금 느껴지는 것 같아요...
@hannanna1004 Жыл бұрын
동의합니다.. 근데 소로우..
@쩡이-r5r Жыл бұрын
@@hannanna1004 악! 충고 감사합니다^^
@왕냥-z1z Жыл бұрын
넘 좋아요 🥰
@가만-u3u Жыл бұрын
블랙서러워...
@mike-l8g3w7 ай бұрын
If you think about it, they both lost love. But while Mizi lost hers completely, Ivan never had the chance to hold it. edit: HAHSHAAHAH its so funny reading replies
@dsaid208174 ай бұрын
hey. why'd you have to mention this? man, both of them are so sad
@cloroxiclean73063 ай бұрын
:(
@mewoqo3 ай бұрын
Poetry.
@karinealmeida93562 ай бұрын
Thanks friend, you are a friend 🤝
@voretox2 ай бұрын
JAIL 😭
@matsumonet Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful cover, waiting for someone to edit ivan and mizi singing this together in a duet since they're both facing different kinds of sadness/issues, and I wonder if the voices will sound good together
@D1GTL-D1L3M4 Жыл бұрын
Ill give it a shot later and link it here for you! I think they'll sound wonderful in the chorus!
@powergobrrrr Жыл бұрын
I think they would wound great together but they're singing in different pitches so it would sound cracky 😭
@D1GTL-D1L3M4 Жыл бұрын
@@powergobrrrr update! You are correct its a bit awkward but they sound beautiful in the chorus im working on trying to get them to sound less clashy i think i can do it but its VERY DIFFICULT
@D1GTL-D1L3M4 Жыл бұрын
Update again! I finished it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJOpmXeNe9hjqsUsi=4B6ww4ehFkvxQe59
@matsumonet Жыл бұрын
@@D1GTL-D1L3M4 woah!! I'll check it out after I'm done with my classes for today
@chaseyy987 Жыл бұрын
THIS NEEDS TO BE ON SPOTIFY ASAP I STG
@melovedy_ Жыл бұрын
YES
@meibirb9646 Жыл бұрын
wake me up when it's on Spotify please ;_;
@melovedy_ Жыл бұрын
frfr@@meibirb9646
@mer0695 Жыл бұрын
@@meibirb9646ME TOO
@kora4137 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting
@servant9997 Жыл бұрын
미지가 수아를 지키지 못한 자기자신한테 낸 증오,후회,격노,슬픔등 온갔 감정을 black sorrow로 부르는것 같아요...
@유진월 Жыл бұрын
와 ㅁㅊ다 목소리 달라진것만으로 이렇게 크게 느낌이 바뀌다니...... 마치 미지가 수아한테 부르는 느낌이네요 서글프고 복수해버리겠어 같은 느낌이에요...
@Tenshi_xxx4 ай бұрын
I feel like Mizi is grieving for Sua, at the same time she’s sad and angry because of herself being powerless against Sua’s death.
@emmi999 Жыл бұрын
ok but shout out to the singer, she has an amazing voice!
@beesnquackers Жыл бұрын
Rubyeye’s voice is so powerful!!!!!!
@mahisathsarani56789 ай бұрын
Mizi's version definitely sounds like she's mourning someone. Like, regrets, sadness. IDK how to explain but the inflections in her voice. Meanwhile, the original sounds like he's thinking of the unknown future and experiencing the pain in the now.
@winterfruits87004 ай бұрын
SUA 😞
@personHere.2 ай бұрын
this hits harder after the final round poor mizi…
@q6kiis2 ай бұрын
no gf no friends, everyone who was loved by her is dead now 💔💔 my poor girl ╥ ╥
@annauc111 Жыл бұрын
I need Sua singing "Ruller of your heart"
@shivermearmpits Жыл бұрын
I have news
@velvety_violet Жыл бұрын
Omg you called it.. 👀
@EveseveE Жыл бұрын
Bro you manifested it 😳
@TenmasAgenda Жыл бұрын
BRO YOU CALLED IT???
@denizkocakafa2869 ай бұрын
MANIFESTATION
@merutomini Жыл бұрын
HER VOICE IS AMAZING OHMYGDODF JUST SOUNDS AS GREAT AS THE ORIGINAL !! YOU CAN REALLY FEEL HER EMOTIONS TOO IM GOING INSANEE
@lin_344 Жыл бұрын
이반이는 애절했고 미지는 서러운 느낌이..
@박서영-l7q Жыл бұрын
수아를 잃은 미지가 부르는 노래같다
@sundropt Жыл бұрын
STOP IM CRYIUNG IM CRYING IM CRYINGGGGGG EDIT: 2:23 IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE IM GENUINELY CRYING THIS SIS OSOOOOO AUGHHHH MIZI... THE WAY SHE SOUNDS MORE LIKE SHES MOURNING FOR SUA AND HAS ALREADY LOST HER RATHER THAN IVAN WHO CANT BE WITH TILL AND UGHHHHHHHH
@Anjuumiko Жыл бұрын
This is just, so, so, so amazing. The va put so much emotion in her singing it almost made me cry. I love Alien Stage from the bottom of my heart. Thank you to Vivinos, Qmeng and everyone in studios lico for giving us such an amazing piece of media.
@Uetu_25255 ай бұрын
이반이 노래할 때와는 또 다른, 분노, 슬픔, 고통, 불안, 그리고 트라우마, 트라우마는 수아가 눈앞에서 총살되어 버린 그 감각이 트라우마로서 나오고 있는, 루카와의 노래하는 노래도, 수아의 트라우마를 떠올렸는지 미지는 매우 광기적으로 되어 있었고, 정말로 행복해졌으면 좋겠다.
@Millie._.-9 ай бұрын
god her voice is so strong, and it perfectly expresses her grief of losing sua
@지경아사랑해 Жыл бұрын
미지는 이반보다 훨씬 상처받은 느낌이 강하다..ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
@yijingtsang5754 Жыл бұрын
Love this, for one is that among all of the contestants, I love Mizi's voice the most. Or maybe I just simp for girls but stage 1 was definitely my fav
@father270 Жыл бұрын
yeah my favourties were round 1 and the round with mizi and luca. both were so beautiful, somethin abt mizi i think.
@zuffleroo Жыл бұрын
Mizi's voice is so beautiful
@lazitazi5645 Жыл бұрын
I’m listening to this while there’s a storm, and for some reason, the thunder always strikes at the right time LMAO
@childofwelp Жыл бұрын
THAT FIRST LINE MADE ME CRY OUT OF BEAUTY OH. MY GOD MIZI BLACK SORROW GOD BLESS YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS SERIOUSLY HER VOCALS ARE SO POWERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL IM OBSESSED
@delphinelavendermorgan4627 Жыл бұрын
This fits her so well too. I love both the original and this one
@badfeelx Жыл бұрын
나 미지 목소리 너무좋아해서걍 죽을꺼갓애…… 진짜 무슨 노래든 미지목소리만 들어가면 존니막 소름이돋아…… 개아름다우진짜……
@v4mp1ressluv3 ай бұрын
theres something about mizi’s version that ivans doesnt give me. her voice is just so chilling and the emotion is like heartbreaking
@FeyleineRize2 ай бұрын
I think it's because his is sung with the feeling of calling out to someone but knowing your words won't reach, while hers seems to be sung as a commemoration
@옴-g5f Жыл бұрын
와진짜 너무 잘부른다 ㅜ..... 블랙소로우 가장 좋아하는 에이스테 노래였는데 미지 버전으로 들을 수 있다니 심장이 오벌도즈 ㄷ...
@noo2896 Жыл бұрын
지저스 크라이스트 세상에 진짜 어떻게 이런 귀한 리믹스가 있데요? 진짜 감사합니다.... 덕분에 매일 들어야 할 노래 리스트가 늘어났네요ㅠㅜ 행복해요^.^ 와 다시 들어도 미치겠네 진짜 대박이다.... 진짜 분위기 대박적이다.... 목소리도 대박이다.....ㅠㅜ 진짜 매력적이다ㅠㅜ
@MINN1T Жыл бұрын
외계인들이 왜 인간들 모아두고 슈스케 열었는지 이해해버렸다
@그저T1 Жыл бұрын
질척한 어둠 웅크린 모습 고개를 저어도 늘 같은 자리 닿지 않는 너, 나 홀로 상상을 해 빛이 나는 너, 옆에 선 나 So black, black as it can be 다가가면 갈수록 깊어지는 dark sea Like a black, black sorrow A story of such woe 이 이야기의 끝에는 피로 물든 시린 자리와 텅빈 공기뿐 너의 눈길이 닿는 곳에 네 손끝 스칠 곳에 하염없이 너만을 기다리고 검은 어둠 속 붉은 빛 모래시계를 돌려 긴 시간을 너와 So black, black as it can be 다가가면 갈수록 깊어지는 dark sea Like a black, black sorrow A story of such woe 이 이야기의 끝에는 피로 물든 시린 자리와 텅빈 Such black, black sorrow 그리고 너 언제나 나에겐 너 Black sorrow 나에겐 너 Black sorrow 나에겐 너 Black sorrow
@dominique23x34 Жыл бұрын
oh god, her version is so much painful, i love this so much
@elysiantulips57932 ай бұрын
this is my favourite cover from the alnst cast, I think. rubyeye has such a lovely voice.
@Wissal7ouissalАй бұрын
Ivan's presence is so strong in this song to the point i can feel it's his words no matter who's singing it.
@bazoongadonklaАй бұрын
The blood on Mizi's face is the same splatter that there was on her face at the end of "My Clematis", and at Blink Gone, where Till died in front of her. It's a similar pattern.
@Makkyostar9 ай бұрын
Mizi, Ivan ha muerto, ahora tu eres mi unica esperanza
@Strwberryyyx213 күн бұрын
Q dices ivan sigue vivo y esta besandose a till🥰
@hiawanae9478 Жыл бұрын
Goosebumps, oh my gosh her voice is soooo goooooddddddd
@뿌뿌-v9j Жыл бұрын
서로 노래 부르는거 너무 좋다...
@구름-s8j9t Жыл бұрын
dark sea할때 마다 당신으로 들려서 너무 좋아요....
@fuchsiafajr7 ай бұрын
Jilcheoghan eodum Ungkeulin moseub Gogaeleul jeoeodo neul gateun jali Dahji anhneun neo Na hollo sang sangeul hae Bichi naneun neo Yeope seon na So black, black as it can be Dagagamyeon galsulog Gipeojineun dark sea Like a black, Black Sorrow A story of such woe I iyagiui kkeute neun Pilo muldeun Silin jaliwa teongbin Gong gippun Neoui nungili dahneun gose Ne sonkkeut seuchil gose Hayeom eobsi Neomaneul gidaligo Geomeun eodum sog Bulgeun bich Molaesigyeleul dollyeo Gin siganeul neowa So black, black as it can be Dagagamyeon galsulog Gipeo jineun dark sea Like a black, Black Sorrow A story of such woe I iyagiui kkeute neun Pilo muldeun Silin jaliwa teongbin Such... Black Black Sorrow Geuligo neo Eonjena naegen neo BLACK SORROW Naegen neo BLACK SORROW Naegen neo Black Sorrow
@ain6435 Жыл бұрын
Mizi never fails to amaze omg,, to the singer you did a very good job delivering the feelings of Mizi!! I love it😭❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏
@luud91212 ай бұрын
mizi after round 7 (no gf and no friends left):
@lauralabule26612 ай бұрын
She has Hyuna, Isaac and Dewey 😭
@luud91212 ай бұрын
@@lauralabule2661 i bet theyre dying in the next vivinos' video
@TheActualMC2 ай бұрын
@@luud9121we’ll find out in 6 months 🥲🥲🥲🥲😍😍😍🤑🤑🤑🔥🔥🔥
@bruhseriously92972 ай бұрын
@@lauralabule2661 i mean what with the fact that the special round pits her and hyuna against each other, i don't think that'll last long
@yamatanoorochi31492 ай бұрын
Please please please give us more Mizi solos
@Sydneypilled Жыл бұрын
jilcheoghan eodum ungkeulin moseub gogaeleul jeoeodo neul gat-eun jali dahji anhneun neo, na hollo sangsang-eul hae bich-i naneun neo, yeop-e seon na So black, black as it can be dagagamyeon galsulog gip-eojineun dark sea Like a black, black sorrow A story of such woe i iyagiui kkeut-eneun pilo muldeun silin jaliwa teongbin gong-gippun neoui nungil-i dahneun gos-e ne sonkkeut seuchil gos-e hayeom-eobs-i neoman-eul gidaligo geom-eun eodum sog bulg-eun bich molaesigyeleul dollyeo gin sigan-eul neowa So black, black as it can be dagagamyeon galsulog gip-eojineun dark sea Like a black, black sorrow A story of such woe i iyagiui kkeut-eneun pilo muldeun silin jaliwa teongbin Such black, black sorrow geuligo neo eonjena na-egen neo Black sorrow na-egen neo Black sorrow na-egen neo Black sorrow :p
@Sydneypilled2 ай бұрын
When did my comment get this many likes dawg
@violetevergarden6247Ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@marjanistt Жыл бұрын
Gonna play this on loop for the next hours
@yukiwaki Жыл бұрын
this is one of my fav alien stage songs (but to be fair there isnt a lot sadly) and im so glad that that this was made, there is so much raw emotion in this piece.
@acevanitas11433 ай бұрын
SHE IS SUCH A GREAT SINGER THAT WAS INSANE
@veniisu Жыл бұрын
IM LITERALLY GOING INSANE HOW IS HER VOICE SO POWERFUL
@squidmark9993 Жыл бұрын
THESE COVERS ARE SO FIRE AKAHSKSJS ‼️‼️
@clockworklullabyVIII2 ай бұрын
Here after round 7. Hits different
@muffiech2702 ай бұрын
im so ill i cant take this bro ToT
@NicoleFlores-hq5nh2 ай бұрын
This girl cannot catch a break man, I wanna hug her :(
@TheSarahDrew Жыл бұрын
Oh my god the vocal so good 😮 and the lyrics 😭♥️
@TartadeMora2 ай бұрын
I am in love with this version, her voice is very beautiful and conveys several emotions to me that I cannot identify
DIOS MIO MIZI 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💗💗💗💗 HER VA'S TALENT IS JUST ENDLESS
@김은주-y9y4w2 ай бұрын
파이널 라운드를 보고 난 후 수아와 틸 둘 다 잃은 미지같다… 슬픔이 배가 되….
@cielhigh44012 ай бұрын
This version is def my personal fav. U can just feel the anger and resentment.
@silentlion_zer0562 Жыл бұрын
The cover i never knew i needed
@quynhanhnguyenphuc2499 Жыл бұрын
I have try to play the two version side by side and i a crazy combination that i didnt expect. Mizi is sing a little faster that Ivan and in different emotion but overal hearing them sing side by side is definately quite interesting
@P-gone Жыл бұрын
미지의 배경에도 이입되는 가사가 신기하고 슬프다.. 너무좋다ㅠㅠㅠ
@EloiseMartin-g7j2 ай бұрын
since we have mizi singing Ivan's song... do you guys think, by a rare very rare chance, that we may get a version of Sua singing Till's song...
@ThePthumerianQueen2 ай бұрын
We can only hope..
@linhlan91652 ай бұрын
nah...
@Echoetic Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know I needed this version, but now I can’t stop listening to it
@yesim3189 Жыл бұрын
미지 노래 존잘... 클레마티스 때랑 또 다른 느낌 좋네여...❤
@bababooey6969 Жыл бұрын
god her voice is so pretty
@ilovechuu-o5zАй бұрын
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH MIZI😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@ryee24039 ай бұрын
this song is so freaking GOOD! and MIZI's voice is amazing
@모던라인 Жыл бұрын
미지수아는 찐이다..
@Mina_c3 ай бұрын
It has been 1 year since this beautiful cover... I won't forget you Black Sorrow Mizi♡
@trashmart9981 Жыл бұрын
It goes from sadness, bitterness, and resentment.
@Pyeollin7 ай бұрын
Okay but like- WHEN I CLICKED THIS I DIDNT EXPECT SUCH A HEAVENLY VOICE OMFG ONE OF MY FAV COVERS OF BLACK SORROW‼️
@2옥희 Жыл бұрын
에이스테 노래들 노래방에도 나오면 좋겠다 🥹…💙
@greensky___709 ай бұрын
i was today yrs old when i found the girls have their own ver of the songs that the men sang. it suits them so much better
@elleislove7 ай бұрын
Honestly when listening to ivan's it didn't really hit hard but mizi's ver? damn i got chills
@으엥웩Ай бұрын
미지야 그만해 ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ 이정도면 되잖아ㅜㅜㅜ 너 너무 이쁘고 귀엽고 아름다운데 나 너무 고통스럽다 하지만 너가 이쁘니까 계속 들을수 있어 사랑해 미지야 ㅜㅜ
@dsaid208174 ай бұрын
woah hers is way more aggressive, love mizi and ivan forever
@nahtxf29 күн бұрын
[Verse 1] Jilcheikhan eodum ungkeurin moseup Gogaereul jeoeodo neul gateun jari Dahji anhneun neo, na hollo sangsangeul hae Bicci naneun neo, yeope seon na [Chorus] So black, black as it can be Dagagamyeon galsurok gipeojineun dark sea Like a black, black sorrow A story of such woe I iyagiui kkeuteneun piro muldeun Sirin jariwa teongbim gonggippun [Verse 2] Neoui nungiei dahneun gose Ne sonkkeut seuchil gose Hayeomeopsi neomaneul gidarigo Geomeun eodum sok bulkeun bicc Moraesigyereul dollyeo Gin siganeul neowa [Chorus] So black, black as it can be Dagagamyeon galsurok gipeojineun dark sea Like a black, black sorrow A story of such woe I iyagiui kkeuteneun piro muldeun Sirin jariwa teongbin [Post-Chorus] Such black, black sorrow Geurigo neo Eonjena naegen neo Black sorrow Naegen neo Black sorrow Naegen neo Black sorrow
@mari_mari001 Жыл бұрын
행복에 몸부림치는중 스발..ㅠㅠ 미지의 black sorrow라니 오마갇. 넘좋아요
@wintery6reeze5 ай бұрын
We need a mashup of this and Sua's version of Sweet Dream😭😭 i assure you it's gonna be a total banger for our drooping mentality
@zhaneksary9 ай бұрын
my new obsesion i cant stop listening this
@Doblolueniste703 ай бұрын
Her voice is soo goood
@999s99s Жыл бұрын
너무 좋아서 기절 그리고 슬픔ㅠㅠㅜ
@sampalhan76025 ай бұрын
미지가 부르는 새로운 맛... 최고
@aelisoup5 күн бұрын
you can hear the difference because their sorrow is different! mizi is mourning but she was loved by sua. Ivan was not loved back by Till( not that he knew of) mizi is angry, upset, ivan has accepted he is unloveable, he has accepted he will not have Till the way mizi has sua
@nnina Жыл бұрын
こんなのでてたの!?!?気づかなかった…最高!!!!
@Bellmellart8 ай бұрын
her voice is one of the best i personally heard
@milky_37387 ай бұрын
suamizi cure cover when IM BEGGINGGG🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@AryaCrot56066 ай бұрын
YESYESYEYES VIVIMENG PLS NOTICE THIS
@SeaAngel246765 ай бұрын
YES PLEASE
@monhoj87783 ай бұрын
:')
@yuphoric55233 ай бұрын
well!
@rina.smiles3 ай бұрын
you manifested and i hate you for it 😔
@PINKISODAS Жыл бұрын
I love this so much!! Mizi is one of my fav characters from Alien Stage 😁💕💕
@sxkuzz Жыл бұрын
I LOVE MIZIS VOICE SHES AMAZING
@MissusAnon Жыл бұрын
Love this art of Mizi for this track
@snoopymara8 ай бұрын
god i’m really in love with mizi👩❤️💋👩👩❤️💋👩👩❤️💋👩
@beefbossonthewiiuАй бұрын
The splatter on her cheek is on the opposite side but looks the same as Sua’s blood 🥲
@olla_p. Жыл бұрын
Also can we all agree that her voice is on another level ⭐
@TheHomesliceBreadsliceDawg9 күн бұрын
Ivan sounds desperate but also fine with it like I'll just keep loving this black sorrow, you can go about your day but he's still very sad but Mizi sounds mad, she can't deal with it anymore
@lovely.4749 Жыл бұрын
goosebumps this is so good 😭
@hannanna1004 Жыл бұрын
내가 표현력이 딸려서 뭐라 표현하는게 어렵지만 확실히 틸거랑 감정이 다른게 느껴진다.. 내 망상일 수도 있지만..하ㅠㅠㅠㅠ자꾸만 수아가 생각남 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ틸꺼보다 더 광기어린 분노, 원망, 허탈, 미쳐버린 그런.. 슬픔이 느껴짐..