You gotta rap to understand how hard what black thought did is. U gotta memorize where to breath, how fast to breathe, how to flow (ie speed up or slow down and space your words out), all the words, control the saliva in your mouth, stay in beat, give inflection to your voice properly, it's crazy.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think of all of that. I was amazed by his memory and focus.
@volusiasorange2 жыл бұрын
he is the greatest of all time. this is a PhD dissertation. It takes 30 listens to really understand all of his metaphors and analogies and cadence. He is the best ever. THE ROOTS
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
The focus involved to be able to spit that is unbelievable
@karlhungus25902 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right!
@raulgrijalva162 жыл бұрын
“Brain matter contain to much data/ I tell a story like fingerprints and blood splatter” Black Thought used to practice rapping laying down with a weight on his chest for breath control. 🔥🔥🔥🔥 reaction!!!!
@matthewcortecero7032 жыл бұрын
yoo where did you hear that? never heard that but his breath control go crazy
@joedivision71482 жыл бұрын
I've heard he would run while rapping but idk. At this point his skills are legendary.
@karlhungus25902 жыл бұрын
The first line and the last line you quoted are amazing. "I'm sorry for your loss, there is somebody in the car, it's probably one of yours." Brilliant!
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
BTW, we (hip hop community) are all in consensus that Funk Flex is SUPER annoying during these "freestyles"... He's not a DJ anymore, he's a personality
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was disrespectful by making noise
@MelquanKatz2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. he either thinks his mid verse commentary adds to it or he is using his annoying voice as a watermark to.I.D. where the freestyle was recorded.
@jalennelson60082 жыл бұрын
He can be annoying but he's put in a lot of work through the years and is still a platform.
@pickenchews2 жыл бұрын
The definition of what "freestyle" means in rap is a loonnnng running debate among hip-hop heads. Even in the 90s, this was a debated issue. Even in the 80s. Big Daddy Kane insists that in his day (80s), "freestyle" just meant any random verse or collection of bars that isn't part of a song, that you just pull out of your hat in impromptu situations. Most 90s-oriented heads insist its an off-the-dome thing...but even in the 90s, there were so many verses on mixtapes etc called "freestyles" that were really just orphan verses. 🤷♂️ I agree there should be different names for different things lol
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I thought most of you would be like "That boomer doesn't know what he's talking about"
@pickenchews2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts haha not at all. I think its actually impressive you picked up on the discrepancy
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@pickenchews Thanks. But the Fire in the Booth video (that turned out to be so different than what I was expecting) is what started my confusion.
@boshidobrown2 жыл бұрын
In the 80s, in which I was in high school freestyle was off the dome. I first started noticing the change on mixtapes in the 90s. The DJ would put on the cover" freestyle" by a artist that wasn't a freestyle at all. In fact the first MCs were hype men for the DJ, who was the star of the show. A MC was getting the party hyped on the spot off the dome. Freestyling and writing are two different talents and when it came to making records the writer was the choice for obvious reasons. KRS ONE is still off the dome to this day and one of the few writers that can freestyle. Big Daddy Kane was one of the new school rappers that evolved Hip Hop along with guys like Rakim and Kool G Rap in the late 80s early 90s. So you are on point with the Big Daddy Kane reference but there is a decade of hip hop before BDK
@pickenchews2 жыл бұрын
@@boshidobrown fwiw, there was also about a decade of hip-hop prior to the 80s ...but Kane linked up with Biz around 84. Pretty sure KRS was off the radar/homeless teen at that time. BDP debuts in 87. Kane debuts as a solo artist in 88 i think, but had already been writing for Biz etc. As with most things that happen organically, I'm pretty confident there were just different circles of ppl who had different ideas of what a freestyle was.
@DC943592 жыл бұрын
This guy Black Thought is one of the greatest MCs to do it, he doesn't get the credit he deserves for his lyrical content. Black thought started off this with a scheme but you can clearly hear him half way through or near the end he's really searching for words and bar's in his head he nearly loses his way a few times but he's one of the best ever. This is a historical freestyle.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I don't have an experienced ear to be able to tell when he's struggling
@idrismackey337911 ай бұрын
Bro… There’s nothing in this that wasn’t already prepared… And I don’t say that to lessen how great it was; this is solidly the greatest verse written ever in any era by any emcee. If you think he was searching for words and bars that weren’t already prepared you haven’t fully grasped what he was saying; the content was way too loaded with meaning for it to be spontaneous.
@pearlsworld16813 ай бұрын
He doesn’t lose his way, that’s the signs of a great freestyler when you can keep coming up with new thoughts instantly and keep flowing with perfect timing
@pearlsworld16813 ай бұрын
that whole freestyle wasn’t written, you can tell how he changes patterns and cadences
@sylvesterstanton7488Ай бұрын
Facts he even said this wasn't all written in an interview.
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
Here we GO!!! This still leaves me in awe! People that want to discredit ANY part of this don't have any idea what this man has gone thru and what he has accomplished!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what you're saying.
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts There's a lot of ppl that argue the "Freestyle" and not give it its just due. Also, both his parents were murdered when he was a kid. I really see him as an inspiration. "I am a walking affirmation that imagination focus and patience gets you closer to your aspiration".. To overcome so much, he could've easily been eaten up the the streets and ended up another black dude from the hood in jail or dead. But he's Grammy award winner Black Thought! Rags to riches.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@57kwest I certainly didn't mean to disrespect his craft at all. My point is that I'd like to know what kind of freestyle I'll be reacting to before the video starts. That's all.
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts I wasn't talking about you at all. You being speechless at the end is literally what we all felt the 1st time watching. There's young dudes online that want to say that this wasn't impressive because guys like Harry Mack are doing there thing or they just don't have the mental capacity to understand his level of intelligence. Alot young reactors say " I can't bop to this in the club so it's trash" or it's cool but have you heard the new tekashi... You gave it its just due.
@brian952402 жыл бұрын
@@57kwest that's true! Beats have replaced lyricism; in the current scene. There have been fire verses over okay beats; that became classics. If you love the bars, the beats will be easier to digest (the more you listen, anyhow). Some people treat music like pills. They don't take what's going to help, but only what makes them feel good.
@John__Dough2 жыл бұрын
To spit all that, not pause, not stutter once, and have all that breath control is amazing! Common might have the second best “freestyle” on LA Leakers!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the focus!
@1spTV2 жыл бұрын
yeah i was going to say that. common killed this one. You'll notice as well how common uses his hands as he's rapping to stay in rhythm. i do that to, helps externalise our rhymes , like if you were extracted them from your brain and playing with them with your finger tips. i just thought of it recently , i don't really see me rapping or freestylng wthout moving my arms and hands in cadence.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@1spTV I see singers keeping rhythm with their hands and feet while they're performing.
@tackyzack86932 жыл бұрын
Rome wasn't built in a day🤔 Black thought burnt it down in a minute and built it back the next day🤯 I haven't seen no one comment on that bar. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@slimgym452 жыл бұрын
"Same cadence as D.O.C. pre-accident" 😳 such a sick line. Mad respect!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
That line stuck out to me, too. But mostly because I was proud of myself for knowing what he was talking about. lol
@henneseslimify Жыл бұрын
Got the D.O.C line! Very proud of you everyone gets blown away by the pre Kardashian Kanye line but the significance of the D.O.C bar is just as heavy.
@Cryptone28 Жыл бұрын
@@henneseslimify heavier!
@henneseslimify Жыл бұрын
@@Cryptone28 facts!
@FredrickMJones2 жыл бұрын
Black Thought is beyond brilliant. There aren't too many people who can do this for 10 minutes straight. Hell, if you give most rappers 1 year to prepare, they still couldn't write like this. Freestyle simply means not scripted. You are pulling from everywhere. Don't get too caught up with the "of the dome" concept. Thanks for not pausing every other bar to state the obvious and or to say something stupid. You just got another subscriber.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub, Fred! I used to stop the song in my first couple of videos and then I noticed how much it irritated me when I watched other reactors do it, so I stopped.
@blaze1bx2 жыл бұрын
First off, respect to YOU sir, for being a “boomer” who is interested in reacting to hip hop. That’s super cool! So, the ol’ freestyle debate. I’m a traditionalist in that a true freestyle is off the top of the head. Point, blank, period. However the terminology has shifted since back in the day, so now a freestyle is “allowed” to be a pre-meditated collection of pre-written material. You must remember, RAP (the music) evolves, because HIP HOP (the culture) will always evolve. As far as Funk Flex, he’s always been annoying. And yes, most of the dudes he “invites” to the studio are allowed to do multiple takes and with all the post-editing done, they end up posting the best take. True Emcee’s like Black Thought, kill it in one take. Which shows and proves his elite- level status as a lyricist.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that explanation! It answers so many of the questions I posed in the video. When I ask those questions, sometimes I think they don't really make sense; but to hear you and others talk about this long-standing debate about freestyle, I feel vindicated. And my questions about Flex and showing the best take out of multiple attempts? I wasn't sure if anyone would have an answer to that. And for the record, I don't think it's fair to show an excellent freestyle without knowing that it took 50 takes. And I'm all for the evolution of freestyle but when the definition changed from meaning strictly off the dome to allowing pre-written material, it's not the definition that should have changed, it's the name that should have changed. Leave "freestyle" as off the dome; create a new word for off the dome with pre-written material. (I bet you didn't think you'd ever hear a boomer so worked up about freestyling). lol
@1spTV2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts you are freestyling right now , lol !!!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@1spTV Not any good rhymes, though.
@adublbeatz86562 жыл бұрын
To piece all of that together and take the story full circle....As surprised as I wanted to be the first time I ever heard it, I couldn't be because it was Black Thought. He loves and respects his craft. His level is high yet he can make it all seem so simple.....with little effort.....
@iananderson-ley18472 жыл бұрын
I really respect all the research and care you go into this with. It makes all the difference and I for one really appreciate it
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling me that, Ian! I certainly learn a lot!
@SUPREMEgoldchain_REAKTZ2 жыл бұрын
This is a top notch performance!🔥🔥🔥
@proudafricanamerican7586 Жыл бұрын
Black thought is truly amazing
@CJ-vh2hf Жыл бұрын
This guy is a top-tier lyricist and MC. Who’s been doing it for close to 30 years if not longer! And the definition of freestyles has changed over the years and also, how people perceive what is considered a freestyle, if you think about any type of expressive art or improvisational performances of course, some of it is already going to be memorized and stored in your head and you is going to piece it together to be able to offer it to your audience.
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
Thanks, CJ! I don't like reacting to freestyles. I like listening to them but they're difficult to react to, mostly because I want to know what I'm about to hear: off the dome? partially scripted? totally scripted?
@SRXT092 жыл бұрын
the breath control is out of control (no pun intended)
@robertchavez80452 жыл бұрын
Well Brian, now you know why I hold The Roots in such high regards. Black Thought is only one element of the group. The thought of a hip-hop group with great mcees and to see a group play their own music/beats on live instruments was just so innovated and ahead of their time. The group is the DJ! I've seen their live shows about 5-7times and it was always such a great show to see and witness live!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
What is your favorite The Roots song?
@robertchavez80452 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts Thats a really tough one for me..there are so many. I'd have to really go through their entire catalog to find that one! Plus what I may deem number #1 of theirs may not be what the masses like.. or want you to react to.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@robertchavez8045 Ah. Maybe pick your favorite popular song from them. 😁😁
@Crbennettx2 жыл бұрын
Pros
@wfdbackdraft77622 жыл бұрын
Black Thought is your favorite rapper's favorite rapper!!
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
I know you're reading but at one point, even Flex is in awe of what's happening. I read that the reason he can go so long without stopping is because he is using circular breathing. He learned from Oprah and Broadway actors that if you put a weight on your chest while breathing, you can extend your breathe to speak longer. I'm sure I f'd that up but you get the idea
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned it today. But it's the first time I've heard the term.
@seanjjpaul2 жыл бұрын
Best freestyle of all time
@seanjjpaul2 жыл бұрын
@@cedrictherene369 Just watched him and Holy shit his amazing
@leecolfax15072 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 "Only machines can do that". So funny but true. Black Thought is so incredible. Super glad you did this. If ever you want list of great freestyles of this format, just ask and I will provide.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lee! I might do a freestyle poll. I've got about 5 on my list now. Tell me your favorite one and I'll check my list.
@leecolfax15072 жыл бұрын
This was a "scripted" freestyle. They pre-write weeks or even months in advance when you are the caliber of Black Thought. When you are at his level, it would be embarrassing to put out something with little effort. It could ruin your reputation. Hints why this is beyond special. He prepared and showed what his mind and pen is capable of and put an exclamation point on why he his so revered as a lyricist. Just amazing!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@hassongordon1249 Жыл бұрын
It's mixed with scripted parts, pre-written verses committed to memory (he's written so many rhymes) and imrpov points that helped bridge gaps in the written content. Just cause he makes it seem effortlessly doesn't mean it's all written.
@vincentwilliams712 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 this rap is a MASTER CLASS at any UNIVERSTY in America ....
@yazeedyairbey2 жыл бұрын
The Fat Pharoah line, is relating to Pharoah Monche when he was in Organized Konfusion.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Ah. I have some Pharaoh Monche songs on my request list.
@headcontraption2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@TheRzarectah2 жыл бұрын
“I’m international, my passport pages like War & Peace”….Just picked that up on my 17th listen 😂
@teeblack06 Жыл бұрын
one of the best freestyles of all time.
@solglow23592 жыл бұрын
Having a pre-written verse isn't considered a freestyle. But what Black Thought has done here is amazing and an example of freestyling in its purest form. Anyone that freestyles has a few(or many) punchlines or bars. Anyone that says otherwise is lying. You have to have an excellent memory and be flexible enough to improvise off the cuff as well. It is what you say but it's mostly HOW you say it that shows your skill. Your weaponry is a tree with multiple branches. How will you connect those branches? When do you leave one rhyme scheme and jump onto another branch? What would you do if you had a premeditated set of bars but your brain creates a new branch of bars? Do you cowardly stick with what you know or are you brave enough to take a leap of faith and create new branches on the spot? Can you weave multiple sets of bars together in a cohesive manner and alter those bars to paint a picture? You have split second decisions to make so you gotta be like water and just flow subconsciously. When you look at BMX or skating freestyle runs, the same thing applies. Every move that they perform are already practiced, rehearsed and learned. It's the choice of moves and the succession of moves that are used that determine your score. What trick will you use to follow up on this trick? What variations of a trick can you use? What approach will you use to start and finish your run? Freestyling is simply a combination of premeditated rhymes and improvising on the spot. Freestyl8ng can make you a better writer as well because freestylers tend to stumble upon new rhyme schemes, bars and metaphors all the time.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that explanation and analogy, Sol Glow! That really makes sense. This is what confuses me: there are freestyles that are 100% off the dome that are exciting and amazing to watch. Then there are freestyles like what you describe and what Black Thought does here. They are two different things with different skill sets but they are called the same thing. That was my complaint in the reaction.
@anonymouslakernerd72142 жыл бұрын
I'm an old school emcee myself and am with you 100% on this, Brian! I am so annoyed how the term "Freestyle" is so diffused that it defines nothing. In its truest sense, it should be improvisational. Memorized lyrics are not true freestyle. That said, this was an amazing performance.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely an amazing performance. But to have a description before the word "freestyle" would let us know what we're going to be witnessing. What Harry Mack does and what Bugzy Malone did on Fire in the Booth are 2 completely different things but have the same name.
@danmontgomery52182 жыл бұрын
But that's not what freestyle means
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@danmontgomery5218 What does it mean to you?
@anonymouslakernerd72142 жыл бұрын
@@danmontgomery5218 What isn't what freestyle means?
@Rick_G_772 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts there are 2 types of freestyles. The original meaning was a rhyme/song (written or unwritten) that is ‘free of style’ meaning there is no structure and is not about a particular subject matter. But sometime around the late 80’s or early 90’s the term ‘freestyle’ changed and became more known as rhymes that are ‘off the dome’. I’ll send a link to an article that explains it better
@thatoneguy41502 жыл бұрын
You should react to commons recent freestyle on the LA Leakers! It’s really good!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I'll put it on my list. Thanks!
@ChainsTheChef8882 жыл бұрын
Amazing video choice! It’s insane, I could listen to it again and catch new meanings!
@pauljohnson3442 Жыл бұрын
As a person who grew up in hip hop culture and was there from the beginning I appreciate that you're digesting this piece of art. Black Thought is a supreme artist of the highest caliber. I'm sure you've already had your questions you posed in your video about the freestyle and how it proceeds when artist go to Hot 97 to perform their freestyles. I especially appreciate your introspection on what you experienced and the impression it left you with. Keep doing what you're doing. Experience and variety is the true spice of life. Salute to you, sir.
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paul! I appreciate it. I still have an issue with the name "freestyle" because there are different types of freestyle but they all have the same name. Before I hear a freestyle I want to know if the artist is saying that their freestyle is off the dome, partly memorized with some off the dome, or totally memorized. I can't give an honest reaction unless I know beforehand what I'm supposed to be amazed by.
@pauljohnson3442 Жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts Hey Boomer! Check out this video. They discuss what comprises a "freestyle". I think you may find it insightful, but the quote that you read from Black Thought before you began watching the video defined prettu well the definition of freestyle. Here's a link to the video in which I am referring to. I hope this helps you in your introspection into HIp Hop and Rap culture through its music. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGfMgZqMhLOKoJo
@onlyjustcommentAry2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I believe a true “freestyle” has one definition. That’s why when one is actually high level it is properly appreciated, and more of a spectacle.
@omarg9342 Жыл бұрын
Please take a deep dive into the roots. One of the greatest rap groups/band in history and Black Thought is one of the legendary MC's of our time.
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've been meaning to do another Roots song. I've only reacted to You Got Me. Seed 2.0 and Act Too seem to be the most popular requests on my list. What do think, Omar?
@yesdex5996 Жыл бұрын
Freestyle and off the dome off the dome is Unwritten
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
It would make me happy if people made the distinction between "freestyle" and "off the dome". I think they need to be judged differently; but it's all called "freestyle".
@brokoen72882 жыл бұрын
The answer just blew your mind 🔥🔥 This man, who everybody asked for, gave you the definition on paper and in practice. So let's agree to believe Black Thought oké?
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Did I say something that led you to think that I didn't believe Black Thought about something?
@brokoen72882 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKSvqGmvfqt_gtU ( a battle rap where one pulls up is phone 🤦🏿) and podcasters Rory&Mal giving you some context start at 4:13 minutes in kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHXcmZmredaKhsk
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@brokoen7288 Thanks for sending that to me, Bro Koen! It was really helpful. I agree that whipping out your phone during a battle is cause for disqualification. Aren't there rules in rap battles? Since I have zero experiences with rap battles, here's my boomer opinion: the battles should be timed rounds - I say 1 minute to spit your rap. It takes talent to go over 1 minute but it also takes talent to pace your rap to end at the allotted time. And over 50% of your rap has to be a direct response to what your opponent just rapped. The judges grade you on content that makes sense, rhymes, punchlines, stumbles, pauses, etc. And they decide the winner. Has any of those things been a part of battle rap?
@brokoen72882 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts💯
@robt71392 жыл бұрын
2 things: 1) Black thought in his younger years had mastered "off the dome" freestyle and evolved from that. There's even a video of him on KZbin freestyling while his partner Questlove pointed out random things for Thought to incorporate while in the middle of his flow. 2) Freestyle dance in hip hop isn't really "free of style" but rather an improvisation of creating combos out of already known steps. I'm sure there's a parallel there to freestyle rap. Cheers!
@robt71392 жыл бұрын
(here it is) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaCXhainh7ism5Y
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I like how you wrote "off the dome" freestyle because it lets me know what you're talking about. When people just say "freestyle", I'm never sure if they mean off the dome, totally written, or a hybrid of both. Freestyle dance sounds like I'd have to concentrate while dancing. Concentrating is the last thing I want to do when dancing.
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
You're right, Off The Top and Freestyle should be 2 different categories.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I thought I was just being a picky boomer.
@richiefiguera1980 Жыл бұрын
thank you for doing this reaction!
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Richie!
@godson11892 жыл бұрын
Love how you're embracing the culture. React to Mysonne Funk Flex freestyle and Ray Vaughn LA Leakers freestyle
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Mysonne was on my list already and I added Ray Vaughn
@idrismackey337911 ай бұрын
I appreciate your appreciation 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@smittybenzo46932 жыл бұрын
Flex's freestyle portion is pre recorded. This was actually a reveal as far exposing other guests on his show that do multiple takes. There aren't too many live freestyles on other shows out there possibly because of the language.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
It's a reveal because Flex wouldn't out someone on his show for having multiple takes? Would he ever shout "One take!" if it really wasn't?
@d.ahuman63232 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome reviews. I'm now a subscriber and a fan.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@squad30592 жыл бұрын
You cacthing some of the BARS now , I see you Brian.
@mattdeacon95809 ай бұрын
"Freestyle" really means free of song structure. "Off the top" means improvised. There was a moment in time where people called improvised raps "freestyles" and that has still stuck around to a certain extent, which is where all the confusion comes from.
@ABoomerReacts9 ай бұрын
Yes, I grew up thinking "freestyle" was off the top. But when I reacted to some freestyle on here, it was obviously pre-written. The two types need different names. Who do I need to talk to about that? 😜
@smittybenzo46932 жыл бұрын
I've learned over the last 25 years or so to adapt to the terms. I remember when rhyming unwritten or written material amongst peers was just rapping. Ok so then to make a distinction, you'd mention things to prove you were going "off the top", like "he's wearing a red hat"....Then the term "freestyle" (which wasn't a mainstream term ), still usually meant off the top but it was generally known that if you were battling someone, you'd be prepared with pre written material. Before Eminem was known, he'd go to radio shows and spit pre written raps over whatever beat they'd put on and murder the mic. We knew they were pre written but who cared. Of course he could go off the top but on a radio show, for a mass audience, it would be wiser to spit your fine tuned material although off the top was more fun. The debate was non existent until people that didn't and don't indulge in the art became critics.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
What did you think of the Black Thought quote that I read?
@SUPREMEgoldchain_REAKTZ2 жыл бұрын
Freestyle didn't originally start from coming off the dome. It meant the rhymes you were saying was free from a topic. Cuz early raps were usually a story or pertaining to a topic. Then it evolved to coming off the dome. So by the original term if you are freely rapping without a topic then you are freestyling. My source for the original meaning of freestyling is Big Daddy Kane
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
So you're saying that the rhymes you were saying that were free from a topic were not off the dome?
@SUPREMEgoldchain_REAKTZ2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts they were written rhymes but didn't have to stick to a topic. That's why they called it a freestyle
@BeastNationXIV2 жыл бұрын
"I'm too legit to quit it" Reference to M.C. Hammer's big hit in 1991
@chicochanguito77902 жыл бұрын
My friend!!! I missed u pal but im back atleast for the time being lol much luv stay healthy stay blessed and stay out of trouble people .....lol
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chico! I miss you too. I hope everything in your life is going your way.
@JUSTINtime5182 жыл бұрын
Great video again. Thank you so much from Albany New York! I agree, had to edit my comment. Yes, a true “freestyle” is off the top 100% improvised. Some “freestyles” are considered that if it doesn’t have a “hook” or a punchline.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Justin. I can admire all types of freestyles. I just want them all to have different names so I know what to expect before the rapper starts.
@lorenzobenjamin22609 ай бұрын
Freestyle is/was what you thought it should be...to me everything else is counterfeit
@ABoomerReacts9 ай бұрын
It could have a different name other than "freestyle" and I'd be ok with it.
@SonDialer2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the pure freestyle, completely off the top, just youtube black Thought Quest Love freestyle, when he was just a kid, he been had that covered. No sweat.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll check it out.
@radioethiopiate2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. A fully rehearsed freestyle is not a freestyle - it's just a performance. But those who do this and call it a freestyle are hoping you don't notice. I think of freestyle like a jazz improvisation. A musician spends years practising scales, learning other people's songs, writing their own parts, etc. So when it comes time to improvise they draw on all those years, all those licks, and much of what they play is made of smaller parts they've played before, but in a new order, a different speed, a new feel or a different rhythm. Good improvisation is muscle memory, but in order to keep the flow going you may need to occasionally lean on something rehearsed before you can go free again. In this freestyle you can occasionally see BT point to his head and look up or take a breath. In those moments I imagine he's either finding a new rhyme to finish the scheme or going through his extensive mental rolodex of pre-written bars or known rhymes to snatch something he knows will fit. This one is something special. He really set the bar high with this.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
The analogy about a jazz musician is great. And that Black Thought did this in one take is mind-boggling.
@LivinLegin2 жыл бұрын
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@Ni_N9ne2 жыл бұрын
I think Black Thoughts definition is the best I've heard. I'd think of Freestyle like Rap, there are so many different sub-genres under that umbrella. And you can tell which is which once you're used to them. There are a few different King Los freestyles on LA Leakers on that is like Black Thoughts but he also has some that are "off the dome" he has people throw out words. That may be the best way to see the difference from someone at a high level of his craft doing both main styles of "freestyle". Royce da 5'9"s LA Leakers freestyle is also a top tier radio freestyle.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Blake. I'm sure experienced listeners can discern which type of freestyle it is after the freestyle has started. But for us newbies, I want to know what kind of freestyle it is BEFORE it starts. But that would happen if I ruled the world (imagine that).
@Ni_N9ne2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts I get that totally. Here are 2 links to King Los one "off the dome" kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZzUYaOPq9Sgm5I and one "radio freestyle" kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXiTh5J8e7eees0 Both amazing and will show the difference. Off the dome has much less substance, it's more about just keeping the plates spinning and rhyme scheme going. Whereas the radio freestyle is crafted to be layered and purposeful in its message. Basically it's like stand-up vs improv, they are both forms of comedy and they can meld into each other. Hope that can help.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@Ni_N9ne Thanks, Blake! That analogy does help.
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
@@Ni_N9ne King Los is definitely a beast "OFF THE TOP"... Like Mack, just hood.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@Ni_N9ne Thanks for sharing that ,Blake! Your analogy is great; and I could see the difference between the two. King Los is awesome in both of those clips. I can't tell which one is more impressive but to be able to keep rhymes going like he did in the off the dome clip - that's like super human. 99.9% of the inhabitants of Earth cannot do that.
@mintalent43792 жыл бұрын
Most freestyles (and a lot of interviews) you hear on the radio are pre-recorded. Stations get fined for things like cursing so to avoid issues the common practice is to pre-record and screen them. As a result, some come unprepared a need multiple takes to get the freestyle completed (we see and hear the edited versions). The idea of what a freestyle is, has changed with people like Biggie and Jay Z who create their music by memorizing lyrics in their head. Years of unspoken rhymes stored in your brain is going to sound different than something created in the moment. Most experienced rhymers even if freestyling off the dome with reference rhymes, rhyme schemes or rhyme styles that they have thought about or used in the past. The only real rule that people often adhere to is using rhymes from released songs and calling them freestyles (people have however turned their freestyle lyrics into songs). We are all as confused as you! Welcome to the community!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
So when Black Thought finished and Flex said "One take! One take!" does that mean Flex says that that for everyone because all we hear is the perfect version?
@mintalent43792 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts No, Flex spoke on this before. What we heard was actually the only take done. Most who do the Flex freestyles have to stop at some point and start again. Flex was letting people know that this was performed near flawless on the first attempt which is why Flex made it a point to let it be known. If you listen to some Jay Z (Roc-A-Fella) freestyles with flex (early 2000's) you can hear the cursing, them apologizing and offering to pay the fines. You do have some places like Sway in the Morning broadcasting on satellite radio which allows cursing. They have live freestyles and you can see people making mistakes and recovering during the freestyle. The fact that he made little to no mistakes is as impressive as the rhymes themselves!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@mintalent4379 Thank you! That answers many of my questions.
@Dj.Ennis12 жыл бұрын
Common Sense also has a dope freestyle you should check out, doin it in a way some of these youngin's can't seem to or don't care to master. A freestyle was originally of the dome, unscripted, unwritten but there are many ways to pull it off like busy b vs. Kool moe dee back in the day busy b was a crowd rocker and kool moe dee was a mic rocker, both good, the confusion comes because some guys are clearly really good. Krs one, supernatural, Common, mos def, Craig G just to name a few who can legitimately go off the top
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
My confusion is that the word "freestyle" is used for both off the dome and scripted.
@Dj.Ennis12 жыл бұрын
Ok, so you had these hip hop radio shows like sway and tech or stretch and bobbito and as the many mc's, and I use the term mc lightly for some, would frequent the shows, the radio host would ask the mc to kick a freestyle or if he OR she couldn't freestyle, cause it's not everybody's thing or ability, or at least be encouraged to gimme your best rhyme and I think that's where the lines got blurred because the host of some of these shows, and I'm not placing blame, but they stopped differentiating who was freestyling and who wasn't
@TheRealness4082 жыл бұрын
Lol if you want to see what happens when someone needs more than one take, but doesn't get it, look up Omelly's freestyle on Sway in the Morning. 😂😂😂
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to enjoy looking at that. For educational purposes only. Lol
@TheRealness4082 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts Lol I'll be praying for you.
@ZZEB2 жыл бұрын
Freestyle is one of two things 1) Rhymes off the top of your head 2) Rhymes you never heard before (that are not a recorded song by the artist) or BOTH
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I don't like that it's one of 3 things. I want each one to be its own thing. Is there a manager that I can speak to?
@ZZEB2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts lol no manager, but there is a Teacha KRS ONE!
@bklynoctorious4982 жыл бұрын
You rigth on the money . I feel the same , its corny to me when rappers spit a pre-written and call it a freestyle.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm talking about!
@Trumpwearsadiaper842 жыл бұрын
black thought is the greatest rapper of all time. don't let anyone tell you different.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Too late. I've already had people tell me different. lol
@Trumpwearsadiaper842 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts lol he's my personal second favorite
@57kwest2 жыл бұрын
He's your favorite rapper's favorite rapper! 😂.. This dude doesn't get listened to; he gets studied!
@_coachcraig_2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Other artists come there and they have to do several takes. He edits all of the parts together for the final result.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Craig. And does he tell the audience that it took several takes?
@_coachcraig_2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts He doesn't. He treats it like a movie or tv show. He just splices the good parts together. You may be able to tell when watching with the different angles or camera shots. I've seen some guys just stop and take a drink of water and then resume when they're ready.
@rotatopoti2 жыл бұрын
Benny the butcher, black though...crowns for kings off - The plugs I met.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That song is def on my request list.
@sir-gawielijah19972 жыл бұрын
Sir, I'm a younging and a new school rapper and most of my inspiration comes from my digging on hip hop history (the culture). As a rapper, in my opinion Freestyle has two definitions: 1. Off the dome: we talking about what Harry Mack, Them Big L, Proof(may he rest in Power) do, they think of everything they spit at the spot. 2. No structure: Just like this, is when a rapper raps on different issues and doesn't focus on a single structure like most tracks put out. Most at times, they're written and memorized before hand. That's all I can say with my little knowledge
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Hi youngin! The thing that surprised me the most when I started this channel is learning youngins who like hip hop don't know these songs. Blew my mind. So it's nice to see you here and to hear that you are digging into hip hop history. I hope you'll stick around. As to freestyle, I totally agree with your definitions. What I really want is something other than just "freestyle" to describe what I'll be hearing. Maybe like Dome Freestyle and .....?
@shermLarock2 жыл бұрын
Everyone has there own interpretation. It's basically no rules or format. Being able to rap at the drop of the dime. Weather being written or of the cuff. A combination of both. Usually consisting of Rhymes that are not (but not limited to bring ) in a official song .
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I don't like it that everyone has their own interpretation. I want rules. Same with the meaning of a posse cut. I want everyone to agree on one definition. Who do I talk to about this? 😜😜
@chosenelite762 Жыл бұрын
In rap/hip-hop we have a tier list for lyricist. There's olny been 5 all time to make that list where we categorize rappers as aliens as far as the ability to rap and have alien tier cadence with amazing intelligence. This level is far beyond your Drake and Jay Z's of the world. Way far beyond commercial rap or stereotypical rap. That man said He's a griot that makes you wanna peacock your arms😂
@edwardstutts1098 Жыл бұрын
Even Actors has to impervise if they forget their lines. It's still acting. Freestyle is creative thinking mixed with research ed material. Memorize knowledge is not as easy. Even if it is written. You still have to deliver. You're free to put together a style hopefully all your own. Hence freestyle....
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
I agree with all of that. I just want to know what kind of freestyle I'm going to watching beforehand. Off the dome or mostly memorized?
@edwardstutts1098 Жыл бұрын
What difference does it make. Don't get caught up in off the dome, written or a combination. The context is what's important
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
It makes a difference to me.
@edwardstutts1098 Жыл бұрын
What's the difference? Is that how you rate whether or not the person is talented or not? Not completely freestyling is a disservice to rap? Every rapper incorporates written bars and off the top from time to time
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
@@edwardstutts1098 I understand all of that. I would like to know what the freestyle is supposed to be before I hear it. It's just me.
@amnqetu_Cipher-da-Builder2 жыл бұрын
Freestyle is as Black Thought stated. Thank of it in the same way as a jazz improve. What Tariq is saying is that rappers have a lot of rhymes in their head constantly. Elite rappers can piece these together on the fly, and match the rhythm that is playing spontaneously. The less skillful can only rap at a particular cadence to a particular type of beat. Roots of rap is for rappers to be in a cypher saying their truth to whatever beat or no beat. It is in the moment and what is said should pertain to that moment. A rapper who is rhyming based on props in the room, is just rhyming. That has its place. But when you are getting to the heart of the matter, dropping truth, that’s next level
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I can totally accept and admire off the dome rhyming and also the rhyming that is both improvisational, thoughtful and meaningful. I just don't want them to be called the same thing.
@dunoripavalan19802 жыл бұрын
Check out the movie/documentary “Freestyle” for more info.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dunori! Sounds good! I'll check it out.
@santafrisco59082 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best freestyles ever. Great choice Sir. I agree with what Black Thought said, a freestyle has def changed over the years. I have a recommendation that you might enjoy. The group is Blackalicious and the song is Alphabet Aerobics..... I think you'll like this song.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! It is on my request list.
@MARCUSFENTRESS19952 жыл бұрын
Yea there's is many forms of freestyle, as an advid listener of hip-hop I think I'm able to differentiate those who are actually freestyling off the top and those who are maybe doing a combination of both. Sometimes even when the whole thing is completely written they'll call it a freestyle cause it's the first time you've recited it out loud, or rap it in a different cadence you had in mind already cause a lot of the times when you up to a radio station they'll pick a beat for you. So in a sense they are freestyling.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I think that I could pick out a total off the dome freestyle and a totally scripted freestyle. I am totally not experienced enough to differentiate between off the dome and written in the same rap. You could put a gun to my head and I would not be able to tell you what part of Black Thought's freestyle was off the dome. Maybe it's because he is so damn good at it.
@reynaldotresor18902 жыл бұрын
What's up Brian? I'm 43 and have loved rap all my life. I really enjoy watching your videos. I totally agree that "freestyle" should only mean rhymes that come straight off the dome. I also don't know what Flex means when he says other rappers do many takes; I don't know what you call that. But I still appreciate this rap by Black Thought as an incredible verse of super dense lyrics and an amazing display of breath control, enunciation, energy, interesting references, etc. You're right though, it should be called something else, not a freestyle.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Reynaldo! I agree. I have total respect for what Black Thought did here. It's amazing. And I really have respect for off the dome rhymers like Harry Mack. But they are two different things that are both called "freestyle". They need their own names.
@TheMiG962 жыл бұрын
I'm having visions of Nat Turner holding his masters head, like Yorik and Horatio in Hamlet 🔥 🔥 🔥
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
That should be a painting hanging in a museum. (With plenty of prints to go around). What a powerful message that would be without having any words.
@DRaquascapes2 жыл бұрын
Did you see when Jimmy Fallon had him on the show talking about this? The video is on yt.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I did see it. I don't know if you've been following my discussion on what a "freestyle" really is; but when Jimmy said to Black Thought "That was all freestyle?", I wonder what he meant. Did he think that whole thing was off the dome?
@dareal052 жыл бұрын
The Roots - "What They Do" (more Black Thought)
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! That song is def on my request list.
@CallMeMrTibbs2 жыл бұрын
I think Black Thoughts description of “freestyle” is pretty accurate on what people say is a freestyle. I get your point though: sub-genres or sub-definitions? Here is a video to add to your list: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZusmnyXabpjgZo Tupac and Biggie freestyling together. I dont know if you’ll want to react to it:its only 2mins long. Great video though. Cool to see them just chillin.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I actually saw that video when I was doing my rivalry series. Wish they could have stayed that way.
@CallMeMrTibbs2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts Oh, sorry. I don’t know if you mentioned that before: I might have missed it.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@CallMeMrTibbs No, you're right. I never mentioned it. I saw it as I was doing research.
@leonard130392 жыл бұрын
Big L '95 Freestyle 👍
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
That is on my request list. Is that an actual recording off of one of his albums? Because Freestyle '98 is on my list, too.
@MightyScruffy2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts if he's referring to the one where it's Big L & Jay Z, then it's taken from the stretch and bobbito radio show that was instrumental for hiphop. There is a documentary about the radio show that is/was on Netflix, and they were reminiscing about this freestyle.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@MightyScruffy People have been requesting that Big L/Jay Z freestyle
@ReiMarvel2 жыл бұрын
Cool that you're also doing freestyles. Overall, including songs, there's so much to recommend! I see that you reviewed mostly classics - Are you open to current Hip-Hop songs as well? Also, are you open to some underground/indie classics? Keep up the work!
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I reacted to Tyler the Creator and to NF. They weren't very popular here. As to underground/indie, check out my "Underground" playlist and see if those are the types of songs you're talking about.
@ReiMarvel2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts There was this big underground movement at one point with artists such as Atmosphere, Murs/Living Legends, Sage Francis, MF Doom, Aesop Rock, and Mac Lethal at the helm. I’m not sure how well they would do with your audience but it could be interesting to explore. No Regrets by Aesop Rock is a good storytelling song. In terms of new, good quality mainstream stuff, I nominate Lil Wayne feat. Kendrick Lamar - Mona Lisa (w/ the subtitles on). Good storytelling with a unique style.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@ReiMarvel Thanks for all the suggestions! I have at least one song on my request list by everyone you mentioned except for Sage Francis. I did an MF DOOM reaction - it was very popular..
@inyokutse2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see a crazy off the dome freestyle, check out King Los on Sway in the morning 🔥🔥
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Someone sent me a link to it. That's what I think of when I hear "freestyle". King Los is superhuman.
@jaesan58722 жыл бұрын
This was part of a Funk Flex Freestyle Series that were prerecorded, so artists would use multiple takes to make it look professional. The majority of freestyles, especially in the 90s and 2000s, were one takes recorded live on the radio. The youtube era changed a lot of freestyles to being prerecorded for better videos. Prewritten freestyles have always been prevalent on the radio because artists are trying to market themselves and wow the audience with clever punchlines. Off the dome freestyles were more prevalent in cyphers on the street and early battle rap. They were definitely more common on the radio, at one point, but they were never the rule.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! They still need to call off the dome and pre-written different things than just "freestyle". (I'm not going to let it go) lol
@edwardstutts1098 Жыл бұрын
Free style is written material or off the dome that is heard one time and one time only. Not record ed on an album. Cd or mixed tape.
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Edward! I don't like that "or" part. Written and off the dome should not both be called freestyle.
@bloodblitzowns112 жыл бұрын
I think another aspect is a lot of the time they dont come with a beat. They get a beat played for them and they have to find the flow on it.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
You're right, Joe. That would be difficult.
@jonbustos51802 жыл бұрын
Black thought used circular breath in this expression, other artist's have no idea what that is. Maybe so many takes is so that they can get their breathing right. About freestyle , maybe yes you know all the concepts but will they flow, and can you keep pace. Again circular breath is his key, along with his immense knowledge ,like he said psychologist. For reference check out podcast radiolab, breathe episode, Black thought in in more than one of their episodes. Thanks
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Cool! I will check it out. Thanks, Jon.
@garylincoln59132 жыл бұрын
How did you find it to react to this video with no lyrics?
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
This video was fine because it was just Black Thought sitting at a table. A video with action and choreography and extras? I wouldn't be able to do that AND lyrics.
@therealslimshady5013 Жыл бұрын
I also recommend Harry Mack, King Los, Juice WRLD, Royce da 5‘9”, Big L, & Supernatural.
@ABoomerReacts Жыл бұрын
I've seen Harry Mack on KZbin. He is truly off the dome. Are any of these others?
@adammitrani94842 жыл бұрын
you gotta react to Big L - 98 freestyle. Make sure you find the full version, its about 5 minutes long, 2 verses.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
It's on a Big L album?
@adammitrani94842 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts no, it was a freestyle he did for stretch and bobbito I think, you can find it on youtube
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@adammitrani9484 OK, thanks!
@blizzle1932 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct this is not off the dome at all..... The only thing that makes it freestyle is that he seems to have it memorized like he can just do it right there on the spot in front of whoever..... And I agree that is kind of just like having a concert basically
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for agreeing with me!
@isaacsello60972 жыл бұрын
Top of the dome and freestly are 2 different things even though people mix them a lot lately. Freestyle originally was rapping without song structure and it could be written but you just get out what you need to say out and top of the dome was improvisation right then and there like Harry Mack as you said but lately is all mixed up. The naming "Top of the done" is no longer used regularly everything is called Freestyle now. Remember that freestyles and interviews on radio are pre recorded lately even if the show is live but the freestyle portion is pre recorded hence guys can have 50 takes to get the perfect one. I think in the older days everything was live.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I don't like that it is all called "freestyle" now. Could you talk to somebody about changing that? lol
@isaacsello60972 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts lol I wish I had that power.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@isaacsello6097 Me too
@bloodblitzowns112 жыл бұрын
Youre next freestyle should definitely be one of the locksmith freestyles. You won’t regret it
@lethalassassin17542 жыл бұрын
I see people debating free-styling in the comments. I too truly believe it should be off the dome and improv. But it can also just be free or pre written thrown together over a beat. Doesn’t matter a whole lot only when idiots claim pre written freestyles are better than or are off the dome when they clearly aren’t. People bash Big L for that too yet I’ve heard him go off the dome a few times. People think battle rap evolved and got better but it’s simply because of pre written became a thing.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone should be be able to call their freestyle "off the dome" unless they incorporate things they see or hear in their immediate vicinity.
@mtcnaz2 жыл бұрын
He’s super human
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
And his super power is focus.
@thatstheguy072 жыл бұрын
There’s a really good, witty freestyle kind of battle with Slug from Atmosphere, and Eyedea who is no longer with us. They’re buddies but they go at each other it’s pretty humorous. I think you should check that out it’s super entertaining. On the wakeup show. It’s like close to 10:00.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I will definitely check it out.
@Leharrio_Structure74142 жыл бұрын
I agree with you points of needing to categorize this new age FREESTYLES =. off the dome/ {Pre-styles} or (Writ~Styles) 🤔 should be the categories .!?
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Somebody suggested the off the dome is Freestyle; and that scripted freestyle is called Flowing.
@keitranvirgil2237 ай бұрын
he is speaking from real life....
@lukecantwell72712 жыл бұрын
Love your choices on what to react to! King Los would be another great choice
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Luke. Someone sent me a clip of King Los doing a total off the dome freestyle. That guy is a beast. His brain works differently than most humans.
@SUCHROXWELL2 жыл бұрын
Whilst there’s some contention over the definition as it was during hip hops origins, by the late 80s the term ‘freestyle’ was largely accepted as referring to improvised rap. The development of emceeing at this time was very much rooted in ciphers and battles, where competing emcees would attempt to outdo one another with traded insults and boasts, and it’s here where your skills at improv gave you an advantage. During this time period hip hops only real outlet was radio, so invited artists would routinely be requested to offer the listeners a freestyle performance. Essentially this was the artist’s opportunity to ‘prove themselves’, gain the respect of the wider community and achieve the credibility that was vital in sustaining a career. It should also be noted that in these days, hip hop was a participatory culture, meaning that most fans were also actively involved in the scene themselves, with many of us identifying as rappers, DJs, Breakers or graffiti artists. Because of this there was a pretty high-bar to pass for an up and coming rapper to seal the approval of the hip hop audience. Now, although the ability to freestyle was expected of any ‘real emcee’, the fact was that it was a very unique skill which many, even great rappers didn’t possess (Rakim has never been able to improvise for example). Because of this there developed this open secret in the hip hop world, where most rappers would simply rehearse a pre-written verse or two and present it as a ‘freestyle’, so to save face and maintain their credibility. By the mid-90s this was the standard. So fast forward to today, and the term ‘freestyle’ has changed (or gone full circle depending on your version of history) to meaning a spontaneous and unstructured performance rather than improvisation. This recognises the reality that most rappers cannot improvise, so for me is perhaps a more honest definition of this form of performance. That said, I do miss the days when rappers would at least make attempt to develop the skill of improvisation as it’s amazing to witness when done well.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge with me. When "freestyle" started to evolve from off the dome to pre-written, why didn't the first rappers to do it get called cheaters? I think something like that would ruin careers. Unless they called it something other than "freestyle" so it could be accepted as a different expression of talent. I don't get why there wasn't more push back from fans and DJs to these rapper that called it "freestyle" when it was obviously pre-written and rehearsed.
@SUCHROXWELL2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts No worries. There was pushback and 'pre-writ' became a bit of a pejorative. Going to see artists live, the crowd would often boo if the rapper didn't freestyle (seen this many times). However, as I say, some of the greatest rappers couldn't freestyle so there was also acknowledgement that it was a special skill. The other thing to keep in mind is that the audience has changed significantly since the late 80s / early 90s. Hip hop has evolved from sub/counter culture to pop culture and as such the audience is very diferent. This inevitably has implications for what is and isn't considered authentic.
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@SUCHROXWELL I can totally admire off the dome when the rapper rhymes about something in the room at that moment; or in a battle rap where the rapper is responding to something his opponent just said. It's a special skill. Pre-written with elements of (provable) improvisation is also a skill but it seems focused more on content and delivery. Those 2 types of freestyle need to have descriptors so I know what type of freestyle I am about to witness. A totally pre-written and rehearsed "freestyle" is debuting a new song. It's not a freestyle. (Look at this newbie to hip hop having strong opinions!) lol
@SUCHROXWELL2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts I pretty much agree with everything you said there. Don't get me started on the corruption of the term 'mixtape'. 😂
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@SUCHROXWELL Don't get me started either. I don't know what I'm talking about but I still want to debate about it.
@kennycooper2942 жыл бұрын
freestyle use to be all off the dome but now its raps that have not been recorded on a record or a combination of both, just what you read. but also it can be lyrics from several different songs put together
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
I can totally admire both of those art forms; I just don't want them to called the same thing.
@kennycooper2942 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts well its pretty much decided now nothing to be done. more traditional off the dome freestyles can be seen on sway in the morning 5 fingers of death
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@kennycooper294 Thanks for the tip, Kenny. Someone else sent me a clip of King Los. He's a beast.
@1spTV2 жыл бұрын
By the way, black thought is the best freestyler in the world in my opinion. Saw the roots live. He s absolutely relentless
@ABoomerReacts2 жыл бұрын
People who can do really good off the dome freestyles amaze me. They're brains are wired differently than most of us.
@1spTV2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoomerReacts yep. and add 30 years of practice that gives you black tought.