This series is phenomenal. Thank you Liberty Pen...and all the wonderful people involved with this. This is long over due.
@jmtaylor54264 жыл бұрын
@Miatacrosser Hear, hear!
@JudgeBob4 жыл бұрын
Liberty Pen was blog neighbor of mine 15 years ago. To my knowledge he does not have a team or even an assistant. This is all the work of one man. God bless him.
@michaelsanchez81104 жыл бұрын
I just love listening to black conservatives talk about the issues plaguing the African American communities and the failures of the system at large. These men and women are so knowledgeable and intelligent, I always feel much smarter and informed on the issues after listening to them talk. Thank you for this series.
@x2dab1844 жыл бұрын
Charter school teach personal responsibility. Personally Responsibility is the antithesis of the Democratic party
@Bronk0Nagurski4 жыл бұрын
Liberty Pen is the most underrated channel on KZbin. That may be a good thing. If L.P. had mass amounts of subscribers, the powers that be would remove the channel.
@sanitary1034 жыл бұрын
Don’t hold your breathe. The thought police are in full swing. Prager U had a bunch of their stuff censored.
@kkampy40524 жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazing that the only thing you cannot choose for yourself is the school your kids go to? One of the most important things in their lives.
@Mr17WWE4 жыл бұрын
True black conservatism strikes again
@jmtaylor54264 жыл бұрын
@Navarre Marshall True *Black Wisdom* ... from one of THE most marginalized groups in America -- Black Men! We must hear these voices!
@yaoakimtantiquyloukou96744 жыл бұрын
it is difficult to explain to people that those who fight against racist are those to whom this business brings a lot of money est it is a MAFIA in disguise who pushes them as a victim to enrich themselves by handling communisms
@yaoakimtantiquyloukou96744 жыл бұрын
@@jmtaylor5426 true but a lot of people no care . I am African my teacher in Economics gave his first book in economics before he has started to sell . Black community No BLM but KNOWLEDGE LIVE matter
@Salty_Boogers4 жыл бұрын
Excellent series, thank you!
@TheTektronik4 жыл бұрын
Parents should always decide on their children's schooling.
@jerryarcher69164 жыл бұрын
If Biden goes into office he will stop school choice. It’s so great to see these great men and women to discuss this topic.
@TheCaliRhino4 жыл бұрын
I was so disappointed when I shared one of these with my sister & her response was asking “what’s this propaganda” 😳🤯🥺😭
@TheCaliRhino4 жыл бұрын
Michael Duncan, sadly she lives in SF & believes every anecdotal experience she hears is evidence that the country is racist & probably systemically so 🤦♂️
@viramandybur49154 жыл бұрын
Liberty Pen...please keep bringing these powerful voices to us...wonderful series!
@davidhunt74274 жыл бұрын
*_The first lesson of economics is scarcity: there is never enough of anything to fully satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Conservatives there are in their sociology department._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Liberals seem to assume that, if you don't believe in their particular political solutions, then you don't really care about the people that they claim to want to help._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_No matter how disastrously some policy has turned out, anyone who criticizes it can expect to hear: 'But what would you replace it with?' When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?_* ~ Thomas Sowell *_What is ominous is the ease with which some people go from saying that they don't like something to saying that the government should forbid it. When you go down that road, don't expect freedom to survive very long._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The most basic question is not what is best, but who shall decide what is best._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_There is nothing so bad that politics cannot make it worse._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good. In area after area - crime, education, housing, race relations - the situation has gotten worse after the bright new theories were put into operation. The amazing thing is that this history of failure and disaster has neither discouraged the social engineers nor discredited them._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_People who refuse to accept unpleasant truths have no right to complain about politicians who lie to them. What other kind of candidates would such people elect?_* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The fact that so many successful politicians are such shameless liars is not only a reflection on them, it is also a reflection on us. When the people want the impossible, only liars can satisfy._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_People who are very aware that they have more knowledge than the average person are often very unaware that they do not have one-tenth of the knowledge of all of the average persons put together. In this situation, for the intelligentsia to impose their notions on ordinary people is essentially to impose ignorance on knowledge._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_One of the most important reasons for studying history is that virtually every stupid idea that is in vogue today has been tried before and proved disastrous before, time and again._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The left takes its vision seriously - more seriously than it takes the rights of other people. They want to be our shepherds. But that requires us to be sheep._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_I have never understood why it is 'greed' to want to keep the money you've earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else's money._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems - of which getting elected and re-elected are number one and number two. Whatever is number three is far behind._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_When any branch of government can exercise powers not authorized by either statues or the Constitution, 'we the people' are no longer free citizens but subjects, and our 'public servants' are really our public masters. And America is no longer America. The freedom for which whole generations of Americans have fought and died is gradually but increasingly being taken away from us with smooth and slippery words._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Those who want to "spread the wealth" almost invariably seek to concentrate the power. It happens too often, and in too many different countries around the world, to be a coincidence. Which is more dangerous, inequalities of wealth or concentrations of power?_* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The great escape of our times is escape from personal responsibility for the consequences of one's own behavior._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The vision of the anointed is one in which ills as poverty, irresponsible sex, and crime derive primarily from 'society,' rather than from individual choices and behavior. To believe in personal responsibility would be to destroy the whole special role of the anointed, whose vision casts them in the role of rescuers of people treated unfairly by 'society'._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Much of the self-righteous nonsense that abounds on so many subjects cannot stand up to three questions: (1) Compared to what? (2) At what cost? and (3) What are the hard facts?_* ~ Thomas Sowell *_By the end of the 20th century, "liberals" had again discredited themselves, to the point where they went back to calling themselves "progressives" to escape their past, much as people do when they declare bankruptcy._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_What is especially disturbing about the political left is that they seem to have no sense of the tragedy of the human condition. Instead, they tend to see the problems of the world as due to other people not being as wise or as noble as themselves._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Envy plus rhetoric equals 'social justice'._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_There is usually only a limited amount of damage that can be done by dull or stupid people. For creating a truly monumental disaster, you need people with high IQs._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Few of the great tragedies of history were created by the village idiot, and many by the village genius._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_As long as human beings are imperfect, there will always be arguments for extending the power of government to deal with these imperfections. The only logical stopping place is totalitarianism -- unless we realize that tolerating imperfections is the price of freedom._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_To say that 'wealth in America is so unfairly distributed in America,' as Ronald Dworkin does, is grossly misleading when most wealth in the United States is not distributed: at all. People create it, earn it, save it, and spend it._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_For the anointed, traditions are likely to be seen as the dead hand of the past, relics of a less enlightened age, and not as the distilled experience of millions who faced similar human vicissitudes before._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_People who believe in evolution in biology often believe in creationism in government. In other words, they believe that the universe and all the creatures in it could have evolved spontaneously, but that the economy is too complicated to operate without being directed by politicians._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_It is amazing how many people think they are doing blacks a favor by exempting them from standards that others are expected to meet._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The vision of the left, full of envy and resentment, takes its worst toll on those at the bottom - whether black or white - who find in that paranoid vision an excuse for counterproductive and ultimately self-destructive attitudes and behavior._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_People sometimes ask if I have tried to convince black ‘leaders’ to take a different view on racial issues. Of course not. I wouldn't spend my time trying to persuade the mafia to give up crime. Why should I spend time trying to convince race hustlers to give up victimhood?_* ~ Thomas Sowell *_Liberals have been driven to the desperate expedient of attributing . . .social pathology in today's ghettos to 'a legacy of slavery' even though black children grew up with two parents more often under slavery than today._* ~ Thomas Sowell *_The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state._* ~ Thomas Sowell
@daemigeorge51674 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'd ask you to send that to me if possible
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@davidkilby10434 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Salty_Boogers4 жыл бұрын
6:53 Carol Swain NAILS it! Restorative Justice and similar policies are systematically destructive for student accountability
@jesusmysavior24244 жыл бұрын
Please make this known to everyone; every color; mainstream media, please help our parents and children!!!
@oilhammer044 жыл бұрын
It's not really about whether school choice works. It's about whether public education should be primarily a jobs program for adults.
@jimhughes1070 Жыл бұрын
Love them all... But Thomas and Walter have got to be at least in the top 10 smartest people in the world!! (My personal all-time favorite teachers)🎉🎉🎉❤
@andrewsilverstein61864 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@nathanngumi84674 жыл бұрын
Indeed, school choice should be a no brainer for Blacks, Hispanics and other disadvantaged groups.
@ProfessorToadstool4 жыл бұрын
right, dont just try and work with what you got, go over there where somebody who cares is already doin it, and glom onto them...
@kingbruce5834 жыл бұрын
I am 64 years old. They have been jumping money into the urban pools since I have been a child. It has been an endless pit I'm worthless education. Constant clamoring about needing opportunities. The urban communities have had the most opportunities handed to them without a doubt. It is time for themselves to stand up and do it for themselves now. Quit expecting the taxpayers of the entire country to carry their worthless policies any longer. Their cities are dirty, disgusting, filthy because they do not keep them clean themselves. The rest of the country does not go to the urban areas and create the filth. The field is created in the urban areas for themselves. As my grandmother said. Clean your own piss pot first.
@threescoreandmore56174 жыл бұрын
Here’s some questions I’ve been pondering: 1. What do lawmakers have to gain by denying school choice? 2. Who will benefit by school choice? 3. Who loses out by school choice? 4. What is the benefit to our kids by school choice? 5. Is there a negative for our kids by having school choice? 6. Why all the fear of school choice? I think I know the answers but I hope people stop and question.
@bubbag88954 жыл бұрын
well hell.. what does going to school teach that a kid cant learn at home?
@telubrico4 жыл бұрын
Good to see Leo Terrell has taken the red pill.
@wingnut31934 жыл бұрын
"By... [selecting] the youths of genius from among the classes of the poor, we hope to avail the State of those talents which nature has sown as liberally among the poor as the rich, but which perish without use if not sought for and cultivated." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:206
@kepriworks4 жыл бұрын
Love the series.
@donaldarthur34974 жыл бұрын
Behavior is the problem in public school(period). From around the 5 grade to 12 students get talkative and disrespectful. I remember in 1980 my tenth grade year mean students toyed with a old teacher so bad she had a break down. I stood up to the crowd that gave her a hard time after 20 minutes of there junk. I fault a group if guys me against many. About five years later a missionary to Haiti was teaching around 300 people and everyone was learning. No one was talking and no disrespecting the teacher. Behavior is the problem in school plain and simple.
@b2tall2394 жыл бұрын
Smart, prepared, successful students frequently make for smart, prepared, successful adults. And those adults are harder to politically control and are less likely to become government-dependent. Is it any wonder why (D)s are opposed to superior education options?
@wbdangelos83934 жыл бұрын
I can understand why the Federal government might oppose charter schools, which is the same reason we should have them.
@moviepracticing4 жыл бұрын
This was edited much better than the previous similar 👍
@bryandonahue43474 жыл бұрын
I love the intro music of these videos haha
@libertysweapon12324 жыл бұрын
I've been jamming to that tune for years. It usually means sowell or friedman is about to start dropping truth bombs.
@johnedwards7854 жыл бұрын
The latest demand from the 'LA Unified School District' aka Teachers Union for reopening the LA schools this fall is to 'Defund the Police' and place a 'Moratorium on Charter Schools' this is the type of chicanery De Thomas Sowell is speaking about!
@adamfrioui74844 жыл бұрын
It's all sounded like, a real jazz band,melodia ,to my ears, how beautiful, is that!!!We should question ,Obama's integrity!!
@danielryan90764 жыл бұрын
Two words. Teachers unions. Two more. Democratic city.
@jeffforbess68024 жыл бұрын
We should have separate schools for minority/poor kids that are actually there to learn. Move the other ones to trade schools, and let them graduate earlier. In Nashville, we have magnet schools. They are so popular that there is a lottery to get in. There ARE black families willing to do what it takes to educate their kids, as they know that’s the only escape from poverty. The problem is that they are the minority. It does no good to pour money into a school, if it’s basically prison light.
@kimgriffiths69804 жыл бұрын
Big respect to these great black leaders. They do more for black people by succeeding themselves. To me they are like Joshua n caleb when they brought back a good report about the land they spied on. Its true there are giants but God is bigger than the giants n He will help them to enter the land flowing with milk n honey.
@idliketosay4 жыл бұрын
Justice for Jessica Doty Whitaker!!!
@johnedwards7854 жыл бұрын
In order to have school choice you must vote for the Republicans, period!
@alexleonard94864 жыл бұрын
Demand diversity of politics from teachers, and teachers' union. Equal donations to all political parties. Demand school choice.
@carlahubbard72514 жыл бұрын
I'm an immigrant from a 3rd world country and I was outraged to know that schools pass kids even when they didn't learn the subjects. What that teaches to kids?
@michaelb35224 жыл бұрын
4:55 A new Sowell interview?!? **PAUSE** Don't worry liberty pen, I'll be back 😉
@ShubhamMishrabro4 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't money but the passionate about that thing. India had mostly poor people but they knew studying stem subjects will give them a huge advantage. I don't see this much in American and even low in black population. Ask them about an black rapper they will answer anything about him but ask them who was first black scientist they don't know. Most don't have interest in it if you see which should be changed
@michaelsallee75344 жыл бұрын
there are many "colleges" people are upset as being papermills. unfortunately, many high schools are papermills
@LoveVanillaRose4 жыл бұрын
Why is this even an argument? All Americans are free, they can educate their children how they choose, public servants are just that, servants. Servants are there to serve and do what they're told. School choice is a right of all free people, it shouldn't even be up for debate here in America.
@Jimraynor454 жыл бұрын
It isn't an argument based on reason. Its battle for money and power.
@mikec37494 жыл бұрын
I'm confused about what's said at 9:10 about the charter schools being unorganized and caring more about the adults than the students. I thought the charter schools were the opposite of that and it's the public schools/union that's the problem? Also if someone wouldn't mind explaining to me how the school vouchers work? What determines if you get one or not and what exactly does it give you?
@kickingass623 жыл бұрын
Unorganized means the teachers in the charter schools are not a part of the teacher's unions. In the second part of that he was referring to those who oppose charter schools caring more about the teachers than the students. The "voucher" is basically just the term they use for the government taking the money for a student that would have gone to a public school and giving the money to the charter school the student attends. I believe many charter schools are done by lottery as there is usually a greater demand than spots they have available.
@ddorsey10914 жыл бұрын
You can trace all the kid's lack of control back to their homes.
@anameichose88544 жыл бұрын
Please comment on Cory Booker's discussion with Amy Barrett about studies that show many more blacks were incarcerated with three strike laws percentage wise
@richardgoldfine31914 жыл бұрын
Charter schools may be a fine idea, but there is one little problem with giving money to religious schools. It is called the Constitution.
@tensortab88964 жыл бұрын
Why do we think that you need a college degree to get a basic entry level job? Because a high school diploma is worthless.
@Me-by8qi4 жыл бұрын
And how am I racist because I genuinely want school choice?!
@bubbag88954 жыл бұрын
ill watch anything with sowell in it
@glennwatson33134 жыл бұрын
I'm all for charter schools and vouchers but the truth is they are not scale-able. If every kid was put a in charter school then you would not see any benefit. The main benefit of charter school is that the best kids are taken out and allowed to learn without the worst student Pauling them down.
@GBSaSu4 жыл бұрын
It’s lottery based.. so no the best kids aren’t taken
@mrCUTNPASTE4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t getting a HS diploma but leaving without math and reading skills “On level” the reality of the “Equity” we keep hearing about? Just another version of participation 🏆’s
@jimhughes1070 Жыл бұрын
Remove the unions power (it was a "law" that gave them that power).... And federal funding as well!... Competitive incentive is the ticket!! (I learned that from Walter and Thomas.... On my way to genius)
@greenmindzane61484 жыл бұрын
Imagine disparaging the public school system while INVESTING in charter schools.
@proudpureblood50734 жыл бұрын
Silly orcs, you think you matter...lol!
@yaoakimtantiquyloukou96744 жыл бұрын
I am still waiting for the answer which state program has succeeded
@brianriley51084 жыл бұрын
I'm a little disappointed that not once did anyone mention that their culture is the primary reason for their issues.
@fzqlcs4 жыл бұрын
Check out the video: Thomas Sowell/Black Wisdom Matters - The Impact of Culture
@Jimraynor454 жыл бұрын
A more precise way to see it is that culture is primary reason for the _differences_ between groups. The primary root for the degradation is past government policies. Whites, hispanics and all other groups are also affected by bad schools. Test scores and eduation quality is down all across the board. The reason why it impacts blacks more is culture. Culture explains the difference, it isn't the primary reason.
@creationevolution3154 жыл бұрын
@@Jimraynor45 I grew up in a typical ghetto/hood/projects. I agree, it's the culture within these kinds of communities that destroy black people's potential. I narrowly escaped by doing well in school, working my way through college, etc. It isn't willful ignorance that keeps us blaming white racists for our cultural degeneracy, it's the SHAME. The shame is so overwhelming that the black community would rather break my neck on a noose than have me, or any blacks, speak about it. Shame and liberal/Democrat propaganda keep blacks in a neverending self-feeding deathloop of failure to thrive. That is why the black people in this video are hated, scorned or ignored by their own people to whom they've dedicated their intellect, will, and talents to help.
@jocof01774 жыл бұрын
While I can see some arguments are valid, in my District there are a number of charter school and their standards are not superior to the public school. In some cases it is worse. The schools are created for profit so the discipline is not better. Generally speaking, students equal $ so the more the better (including those not well behaved). The teachers are paid much less and do not have the quality or experience of public school staff. Additionally, the results of yearly achievement tests prove it. While the idea of charter schools has potential, it does clash with Teacher Unions as well as public schools themselves making them natural competitors. Lastly, keep in mind the population served is the same and the parents likewise. Charter schools are hardly the "magic bullet" portrayed here.
@threescoreandmore56174 жыл бұрын
I’m sure some charter schools do not do well. The beauty of school choice is that parents and students can choose the best alternative. Why are so many opposed to school choice? What is the underlying reason our lawmakers will not agree to allow it. Who is putting money into the opposition? And why?
@jocof01774 жыл бұрын
@Code Lergie Sorry, but that's my experience talking, not my political belief.
@armandgallanosa4 жыл бұрын
School choice. Why are Democrats opposed to improving education for their constituents?
@dontlietome67684 жыл бұрын
How much, don't care, do yiu have to have to do this to your children.
@ProfessorToadstool4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, much of Mr. Sowells wisdom was gathered from and among white people..so one could say his wisdom is, at least in part, white... so much for black wisdom...
@glennwatson33134 жыл бұрын
I'm all for charter schools and vouchers, but they do cherry pick, Yes the is a lottery but the families who apply for the lottery and agree with the requirements of the school are already superior to those who don't. I teach at a magnet school and the faculty is good but what makes the school great is the quality of kids we get and the lack of troublemakers that we don't get. If you allow me to make is just a little bit difficult to get a kid into my school I will give you a better than average school. The harder it is to get in the better the school.
@blackmanops37494 жыл бұрын
What I haven't heard discussed is the ability/skills issue. There is an unspoken, yet false, premise that all students can perform at a high level. They cannot. In addition to what is discussed, there needs to be a paradigm shift to develop a track for those who are not cutting the academic focused track. There are a lot of low functioning kids who are best served by teaching them life skills so they can be productive in society. (Counting change, how to speak to others, how to dress, how to comport themselves, etc)
@idkwatmynameshudbe74 жыл бұрын
@@blackmanops3749 I think Germany has than system with hauptschule and gymnasium. They also have well established vocational programs so students who dont want to go to college have a very viable path to take. Sadly, I feel like if a tiered school system would happen in the states people would call racism
@blackmanops37494 жыл бұрын
@@idkwatmynameshudbe7 Interesting. Didn't know that about Germany. And, yes, there are cries of racism for everything else, so I would expect no less.
@idkwatmynameshudbe74 жыл бұрын
@@blackmanops3749 yeah germany has multiple tiers for schooling, I went there for middle and highschool. Community colleges in America were based off German schooling as well. Some parents are starting to mess with the system because they get pissed off if their kid cant get into gymnasium which is the path towards college... but better then lumping everyone together
@pc33464 жыл бұрын
Technology school pays better if you got the gonzo!...y'all ought to preach that Moses firerainbow over Charleston s.c. on 8/16/15!..
@longanddeadly4 жыл бұрын
IF you dont vote for me, you aint a kitchen pigeon. -Joe Daddy Biden.
@debraanderson96584 жыл бұрын
Intelligently logical killed the teacher Union started all over from scratch
@ProfessorToadstool4 жыл бұрын
I have know many teachers over the years and they all say the same thing: those kids don't WANT to learn anything that is going to better them. I will say it again, cuz Mr. Sowell seems to have to have missed this point: those kids dont care about school. The doont want to learn they dont want to do anything but paty and make babies.
@1966johnnywayne4 жыл бұрын
I love to listen to Dr. Sowell, but there is a certain level of denial in these claims. The claim that "these are kids that are not skimming the cream, they are chosen by lottery" ignores the fact that people who don't go out and buy a lottery ticket will never win the lottery. Sure, the students selected are randomly chosen, but only those whose parents care enough about their child's education and are willing to put in the extra work required for a successful outcome combined with those children willing to "act white" will even apply for this lottery, and that ignores the majority that don't give a damn about education. The successes of the charter school system is based on a small, motivated percentage of the population, and given the opportunity to expand this program to the broader community will expose it's inevitable weakness (the elephant in the room)...and that is that on the whole black students perform poorly when compared to white and asian students. Charter schools have the ability to benefit more students than they currently are, even some of those who are not currently applying to the system, but eventually they will reach a saturation point where no amount of educational input is going to produce better results. I agree that a motivated child should have the opportunity to access a better educational environment, but we need to be honest about it's limitations.
@optimisticallyskeptical18424 жыл бұрын
While on the surface I would generally agree with you, we do not have studies that would show that outcome. I do believe that if charter schools were more the standard it would indeed follow the normal curve of those that wanted to learn and those that didn't with the average in the middle. But I also propose that being semi-private, charter schools would develop alternatives to children who were found to be having difficulty in a charter school environment, unlike how the public school system deals with it. If we can't get a child to learn, lets at least strive for a better outcome.
@lakeshow714 жыл бұрын
You're not taking into account that they compare how the kids who are accepted perform in life compared to those that applied and we're rejected. The ones accepted perform far better across multiple dimensions than those who return to public schools. A healthier learning environment provides the best opportunity for any one child to reach their potential. Your "Elephant in the room" argument seems to be genetically based. You seem to think that asian and white kids perform better because they are genetically superior, not because they we're raised in healthier environments. I'd be careful following that path too far.
@lm30494 жыл бұрын
All excellent points made here. And they should be made in a public debate forum much like those available in decades past where people debated and the audience intently listened to all sides. This public discussion would shut down all these riots. Om second thought perhaps cause more because rioters aren’t about discussion they’re about destruction. Sad state of affairs.
@idkwatmynameshudbe74 жыл бұрын
And what evidence do you have that this is a small motivated percentage? If 80% of blacks are pro charter schools, that would point to a majority being motivated enough to understand the benefits of them. It seems like it's actually a small unmotivated percentage that is ruining the classroom environment due to policies like restorative justice. Getting kids away from that influence as fast as possible so they can learn in peace is what charter schools offer