Psychiatrist

[@_Uh_Oh_]

Making this televised was probably the best idea the Depp team had. She literally couldn't control herself, smirking and laughing - pretending to be upset one second, and then laughing and passing notes the next. Then we got to hear her trumped up "version" of the events, and it really brought to light just what a dangerous deranged psycopath that woman is. I'm really not happy that all of this is not being taken more seriously, considering what she claimed happened, the man could have gone to prison for years if she had played this even more deviously than she did. And that is the crazy thing, we are all very lucky that she truly IS a shit actress, and that her "mountains of evidence" is all as pathetic and fake as it is. And that it was leaked, and the world got to see it. Cause my god, Depp took a hit but it is NOTHING compared to what she actually wanted and tried to do.

[@Jill199]

It wasn't the Depp teams idea. The judge called it and JDs team didn't object but Amber's team fought hard to have it NOT televised

[@amandamoody2058]

She didn't want it so she could lie even more and like she did in the uk .. everyone got to see her true side her true evil form

[@dbeazrn3934]

@Uh_Oh_ Agree 💯% !! Also - A lot of the evidence was made public during the UK trial - Depp vs Sun - in which AH was NOT A CLAIMANT, so SHE DIDNT WIN ANYTHING as she & Elaine like to proclaim. 🙄🙄🙄

[@marymathews2244]

I think murder was definitely on her mind.

[@lindaefraim5895]

Johnny knew if it wasn’t public Amber would use it for full and even if it was televised she try to change it

[@bad-people6510]

There was no harm to victims being believed in this case. On the contrary, if you're a legitimate victim, you're not Amber Heard, you're Johnny Depp. This was justice being done for a victim.

[@lecheflan4777]

I am no Johnny Depp fan, and this trial got me got curious about him so I watched videos of him being interviewed and just interacting with other people from 20, 30 years ago. The way he talked then was exactly the same as he did in court.

[@isobelswan]

And your conclusion was?

[@shaylatorch]

Yes, his personality and calmness is how he's always been! He's just an all around good guy who certainly deserves much better than that evil heifer

[@lindatannock]

@@isobelswan they're saying he was open and honest and being himself (how he always behaves/talks), showing he wasn't acting or putting on a show for the court like AH was

[@rhondaalbrecht]

@@isobelswan That his baseline never changed in all of those years... he's the same today as he was, 20, 30 years ago. AH, on the other hand, was all over the place.

[@LuluDumpling]

@@isobelswan The conclusion is that he was being himself. As opposed to putting on an act for the court. For example, some people said he spoke so slowly because he's lying, meaning to give himself time to carefully think what to say before he opens his mouth. But if you watch interviews etc to compare you find that that's just his normal way of speaking. Slow, measured, thought out words, occasional stuttering..

[@kimberley1449]

Did you notice that she was never afraid of him in all the audio!! That stood out for me!!

[@115dancingqueen]

Never!! The way she spoke to him, taunted him without fear. She was no victim!!

[@flatfoot38]

absolutely

[@davidjbiscoe957]

I found Dr Hughes worse than Dr Spiegal. She said that she used the "He abused her" statements because by her notes she found that Amber was the victim. It was not her job to decide whether he was guilty or not. Her job was to give her testimony on Amber's mental health based on the notes and tests. Dr Hughes appeared to be a man hater as according to her, if a man gets hit by the woman, he did something to deserve it. Her job is helping women who kill their spouse to get off on self defence claims

[@LocustIvy]

Dr. Hughes was a wreck.

[@rosestewart1606]

but there is also the fact that Dr. Hughes based much of her arguments on her own research...and if she were to make different claims it would also invalidate her research

[@hawkeyescoffee6399]

My fave part was when she got so twisted up she admitted he was the victim...but didn't even realise she'd said it. The thing is, she has done a lot of work with that law firm, she has incentive to give them what they want, not just for the pay day she got from AH but for all the future clients they'll pull her way. Oh, I also love that she said it was appropriate to run tests retroactively despite their purpose being for use while still experiencing the abuse, the fact she thinks that smokers chances of lung cancer stays the same even after they've been stopped smoking for 10+ years, and that she essentially gave AH the cheatsheet guide to what symptoms you have with PTSD (although AH still couldn't act it even though she tried to claim it verbally - I wish they'd shown that vid of her practicing a fight scene for Aquaman with a staff... where she celebrates after hitting the instructor hard enough it practically knocked him out of the room...but oh, Amber tell us more about those eggshells everyone is walking on). ...And by love I clearly mean hate.

[@kazzer115]

Dr Hughes was appalling = a disgrace, an embarrassment and she harmed her own professional business, deservedly so. Pray her clients go elsewhere.

[@davidjbiscoe957]

@@rosestewart1606 an expert witness is supposed to give evidence without prejudice. Her research is geared to support the woman because that is who she always represents in court. Her main cases are getting women who murder their spouse off on self defence. She clearly stated that if a man gets beaten by a woman, that he did something first so deserved it. She then during cross when asked about why she used he/she instead of the victim or the abused stated she used it because she knew JD was the abuser. Her research was flawed because she gave Amber the sheet telling her what symptoms PTSD hold. Much of the interviews were done via zoom also. Compare that to Dr Curry who gave her tests to determine her state of mind. I have never heard an expert witness try trashing an expert witness for the other side when they have applied standard nationalised means of research the way Dr Hughes did to Dr Curry. So if she gave honest straight replies without the hatred in her face she might have helped Amber's team better. The fact it was a majority male jury and right from the off made it clear men can never be victims showing much bias toward Amber clearly shows her research was one sided.

[@daricetaylor737]

The old adage "birds of a feather flock together" really is true. Amber Heard hired a legal team who reflected her own personality and that legal team in kind, hired professionals of the same mind set. It was a train wreck from the start.

[@LilyGazou]

👍🏼

[@stephaniehooper386]

You are so right they were all sickening

[@Olivia-pc7pj]

My heart breaks for her daughter. To be raised as an only child by a single parent with these characteristics. How will a child navigate this? 💔

[@geneivemary4234]

I understand being she's being 'looked after' but her new girlfriend and nannies.

[@cilandialane3084]

One of 2 ways, if the child's heart is negative she becomes another amber. If the child's heart is positive she will fight through it to be a good person in spite of her mother.

[@geneivemary4234]

@@cilandialane3084 I hear you... but that's actually a lifetime of exhausting! I wouldn't wish a narcissistic vindictive spiteful mother on any soul especially a daughter... and daddy is not apparently 'in her life'. Narcissist mothers damage their daughters. It can take an entire lifetime to heal.. and that might be after years of pain and confusion cos you never learnt how to have healthy relationships. It's taken me 50+ years. But I knew I'd get there! 😁

[@cilandialane3084]

@@geneivemary4234 yes, I have lived that life as well with a younger sibling. She destroyed our family. Until she dies, the family will live by her rules. To find a normal balance get away from the situation. I moved far away. You may have to lose those you love to keep your own sanity.

[@katwest6778]

Yes I agree, that poor child has a very difficult life ahead of her. But I believe her decision to have a child was born from her fear of abandonment. Everyone seems to leave her! Partners and close friends! I think somewhere in her mind she told herself that her child would never leave her, at least not in the foreseeable future anyway 🤷‍♀️

[@bonniemiles7957]

AH claimed to have ptsd , so the judge ordered the professional evaluation. JD did not claim any such so was not under order to be evaluated.

[@kimberlyfaulkner3782]

I want to know his opinion in Dr Hughes! She was a real piece of work. She got more upset 😡 about what Amber had told her than even amber did. Her hands were shaking and she was very rude. She was very clear that a man can only be a victim if its a man on man relationship of POV/domestic violence. She wouldn't even acknowledge that a man can be abused by a woman. That should've thrown her testimony out!

[@prayerpatroller]

She has a moral imbalance: Too much pride and not enough humility.

[@LorriM]

Clarification for Dr. Curry: she met with Johnny Depp and his team at home for the interview because Johnny was essentially homebound due to his fame. When the interview ran past the three hour mark, Dr. Curry said she was hungry and asked if she could have something to eat and in response, Johnny ordered takeaway for everyone. That came out on rebuttal cross examination. 👍

[@grace692]

Amber Herd provided an excellent disclosure, to a world audience, of what a malicious domestic violence abuser looks like and does. SHE is the domestic abuser. She has helped victims of dv quite a bit.

[@Dragonfly657]

Dr Spiegel doesn’t like to be questioned! He is one of those Drs that knows it all and don’t you dare question him! Lots of Drs are like that and I feel for their staff. He got very angry but I do agree that psychiatrist need to see their patients!

[@Trish.Norman]

The thing that made Dr. Curry’s testimony about BPD/Histrionic disorders so powerful is that for the rest of the trial, with Heard’s testimony and evidence, it validated Dr. Curry’s conclusions!

[@m.w.976]

Yep, AH put on full display Dr Curry's diagnosis.

[@susancollender6478]

One thing that struck me in Ms. Heard’s testimony was that she seemed, when in her “emotional” mode, to not be able to distinguish between truly momentous stuff (he dragged me by the hair, or whatever..) and smaller things (he didn’t say I looked pretty in my dress on the red carpet..[I’m paraphrasing]).But she’s in her mid-30s, Johnny Depp is not her “first rodeo,” and she hasn’t come to terms with the fact that other people, and especially domestic partners, never say exactly what you want them to about your clothes or hair. They may compliment you a lot, but not at the time, and in the way, that you dream up. And THAT kind of thing (her dog stepping on a bee, also) seemed to carry the same emotional weight when she was testifying as being beaten and threatened…

[@tawnyprovince-ward2353]

JD went in on her multiple time verbally and shredded her which is actually what her feelings. The things he supposedly did never brought true emotion forward because it didn’t happen; it was just when she talked about things he said during and argument that hurt her feelings were the only emotions brought forward. She is a grown ass woman in an argument you’re going to have mean things said and you’ll say mean things because you’re mad.

[@antiiconoclast7834]

As a woman and a “survivor” of a particularly sinister man who was likely Cluster B and IMO likely a psychopath, I have a very different view from Amber Heard and many others. The idea that victims must speak out is generally wrong. The primary goal is to stay alive, to heal and be restored to the greatest degree possible. What does speaking out against your criminal abuser do except put yourself in further danger with your criminal abuser? I believe that putting as much distance between you and the psycho is the best plan for survival. Allow them to find something else to fixate on.

[@antiiconoclast7834]

@@ThriveCollective1188 I agree!! And I too have wondered if Amber was transferring her rage about someone else on to Johnny. In my marriage I really did fear for my life & I tippy toed around my husband for fear of setting him off. Amber taunted and abused Johnny. That just isn’t behavior of a woman in fear for her life! I sure appreciate you sharing your insights.

[@antiiconoclast7834]

@@ThriveCollective1188 your “just thoughts”, IMO are likely the closest thing to the truth!! I know I was my ex-husbands target for his rage against his mother. I took the punishment for the abuse his mother inflicted on him when he was growing up. AND during our marriage his mother was very abusive towards me. The double whammy. On the surface the appeared normal. They put on quite a performance to cover up their behind the scenes insanity😱

[@keatsgipsy9991]

Absolutely agree with you, for people who literally believe they will die during an attack all they want to do is run and never see the monster again.

[@lesleylogan]

@@ThriveCollective1188 It's a widely accepted fact that David Heard, Amber's father, was arrested for running illegal (is there any LEGAL?) Dog fighting rings. He broke horses by putting his eldest daughter on board of a wild horse, which she called being his "crash test dummy". His wife was apparently his victim in DV, and his girls were certainly in constant fear of his violent, drunken rages. Look to the child to see what insane bullshit the adult is running in order to "get back" at the original abuser. And that father looks terrifying. Amber, I think modeled her own violent cruelty after him, and Whitney was her first little vic. Any ideas or knowledge on what Paige Heard died of at a youngish age? I can't find anything about it, but she was "disloyal" to Amber by apparently loving Johnny.

[@Karen1234-]

This is a really good point. My abusive ex and I have been separated for 8 years now. My best friend since childhood doesn’t even knows many details of what happened in that relationship. It’s still too hard to talk about.

[@jim2611]

one of the reasons Ms Heard was confronted about the gift of the knife could have been to make the point that, if there was actual domestic violence one would be fearful and would not make gifts of weapons to the abuser.

[@marilyncalvert4143]

I have a 38 year old daughter that is bipolar and border line schizophrenic. Each day can be a challenge. Right now she is on her meds and the courts have really looked at her diagnosis and tend to let her slid. She has a six year old son that I had to adopt because she abandon her son. Through the years since I diagnosed her then took her to be reevaluated to confirm she’s been in and out of jail and these mental illnesses can be so extremely different but that said I thought Dr Curry did an excellent diagnosis and she hit it right on with Amber. I loved how she calmly like your doctor spoke in layman’s terms on explaining the illness so it could be understood by everyone. When Amber got on the stand we were watching a rerun of what Dr Curry saw. I found it incredible. Watching this trial from the US and hearing the response from the UK and around the world was in agreement. Love you channel keep up with the wonderful work.

[@kristend344]

I regard the knife with an inscription of "Until death" - as a threat. She chose to purchase the knife - he didn't ask for it.

[@Thundersnowy]

Fair and unbiased is she's the bully, he's the victim. She's the psychopath, he gave and gave, trying to make it work, a very caring person. She's a narcissist.. Johnny is genuine, authentic and caring

[@davidjbiscoe957]

People seem to think this case was about Dom Vio. It wasn't. JD never brought it to court as a victim of DV. It was about clearing his name after being falsely accused of Heinous acts. The fact he was proved to be the real victim was of a consequence of the trial. Dr Hughes was also a poor unprofessional "expert" witness

[@kskidspastor]

I hope her other victims find the courage to speak up. I’m very concerned about the kind of life her daughter will have, with this delusional, abusive mother.

[@icemaidenxxxx]

Great video Daniel. Loved listening to Dr Das, and hearing a professional not connected to either side and what he said, just confirmed (not that it was needed) the outcome of the trial was correct. I think the trial being televised was definitely a good decision. Apart from it showing and proving she is a compulsive liar, it also brought to light DV etc..against men and gave them a voice FINALLY.

[@gloriapaddock4618]

I enjoyed this video and listening to Doctor Das describing borderline personality disorder. I have a 21 year old granddaughter who has been diagnosed with that and she has all the emotions and alcohol and drug problems associated with this disorder. It is so very sad,she said to me once that she hates the thoughts that go through her mind but once she snaps she can’t stop what comes out of her mouth. One thing is that my granddaughter isn’t physically violent but she breaks things. Very distressing for her mother who cops most of the verbal abuse. With Amber having these two disorders and being physically abusive I really hope down the track that she doesn’t start mistreating her daughter. I know it doesn’t take much to set them off.

[@MakeMeLo]

I believe she's a malignant narcissist and I know it's nearly impossible to diagnose because they never tell the truth during assessment.

[@louiseevans5752]

E X A C T L Y OR WHAT MEDS TO SUBSCRIBE ??!!

[@MakeMeLo]

@@louiseevans5752 There are no meds for narcissists, they don't believe anything is wrong with themselves and won't be truthful during the psychiatric assessment. It's because of those that psychiatrists always misdiagnose them or shy away from labeling a narc because of the lengthy checklist that must be checked on all boxes before they will give a NPD diagnosis.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

Fortunately it is possible to diagnose, even when they lie and dissemble. But unfortunately there is no treatment except therapy and they don't want therapy.

[@kathryncainmadsen5850]

Dr Curry's explained how she diagnosed AH in detail. I'd watch that again. I believe narcissistic TRAITS are a big part of that HPD. So I'll go with Dr. Curry's result rather than some opinion on a comment.

[@yardengali]

Exactly! I think so too. I dare say most people who have experienced someone with NPD recognized it in Amber. One big difference is, as this dr is also explaining, borderliners tend to react impulsively. Narcissists are able to plan and execute long term manipulation..as we know Amber did. She is even on tape stating this to Johnny.

[@poponachtschnecke]

I think part of why Amber acted the way she did on the stand, is that she saw how much people loved Dr Curry, so she tried to emulate her, but she didn't realize that her role is so different that her behavior was inappropriate

[@salliegallegos918]

Lort, did she ever try to emulate Curry from hairstyle, wardrobe, mannerisms, and set phrases! Heard failed badly!

[@scoobydoodandy4296]

@@salliegallegos918 True, however, if AH has BPD then it can explain this behaviour as those of us who have indistinct personal identity will tend to emulate the behaviour and appearance of those who we respect, admire or find attractive. We can also transition from one personality type to another fairly seamlessly to match the person being addressed. Imagine being an Englishman talking to a Welshman on your left with a slight Welsh accent only to then respond to the Scotsman on your right in a similar Scots accent, except with personality traits rather than accents. I'm not making excuses for AH but I know there may be reasons for a persons behaviour that are beyond their control and given that the "Borderline" is that between psychosis and reality the fluctuating personality may even not be perceived by the subject.

[@beccagee5905]

@@scoobydoodandy4296 It can explain her actions, but not excuse them. She needs help before she goes beyond what she's done to JD. She's very dangerous, because she doesn't seem to have an off switch for her anger, or the ability to empathize with the person she's hurting.

[@scoobydoodandy4296]

@@beccagee5905 This is a great point, There is a difference between a reason and an excuse. The word excuse is often used and implies that the offense should be overlooked because the person couldn't help it. I tried to make clear that I was not making excuses for her but was expanding on factors of BPD that were not explained by the guest Dr. This same Doctor was a guest on another podcast I have watched recently regarding a criminal case and I found him to be far more thorough in that production. I don't think this video was long enough for him to really do himself justice as a professional, the other podcast was over an hour. Incidentally, I find that knowing that I have BPD makes me more empathetic as I have to closely examine my opinion against opposition. I am often trying to see things from others perspective as I know mine can be flawed.

[@nancykahn4125]

She now has a daughter… I fear for her

[@sandrawhitehouse3998]

Great to listen to two really professional narratives on this trial. Excellent Gentlemen thank you. The verdict in my opinion was correct.

[@michellejones6630]

I honestly think the fact that she's got these particular personality disorders, is EXACTLY why she changed her look, feelings, hot/cold, whatever..... because she can't control it. Those traits are so dominant that it just takes over and totally controls everything about her.

[@kathypiazza4567]

At one point during Heard’s interview with Savanna Guthrie she did say she testified that she had made many mistakes, said horrible things, which she most definitely did not during her testimony. It’s obvious she followed all social media criticism, she tried to answer the detractors by saying she knows she has been wrong or behaved badly but even whilst making this claim to Savanna it felt insincere like she doesn’t believe she was ever responsible instead Johnny forced her to react badly, still all his fault. It’s still his fault she has to retry the case in the media. Her illnesses are very evident, to me & many more people.

[@lemonde1701]

I know from experience narcissists when put on the spot tend to admit their faults etc, but its very brief and meaningless, its only a mean to reel you in even more and then bang...its your fault or whoever yet again, its an endless circle

[@jenniferroach4153]

Amber can’t even comprehend the fact she breathed a whole new life into KZbin content. And how we are still watching. With an almost morbid curiosity. She wants this to end and stop being talked about with such negativity. But my god, I can’t look away from this whole train coming off the tracks. She just keeps screeching and we just keep watching. And will till the wreck is cleaned up.

[@bjs301]

Very insightful. I've worked many cases involving persons diagnosed with BPD or HPD, and they are extremely challenging. And as I understand it, these disorders tend to be refractory to treatment. That would be a good point to cover in a future video with the doctor.

[@Kari.F.]

Dr. Spiegel was an expert witness who didn't show much expertise on the stand: He didn't accept or consider the fact that JD has been diagnosed with ADHD. He was very insistent that 60 mg Adderall isn't prescribed to adults with ADHD (on what planet is that unusual, exactly!?). JD taking 60 mg Adderall daily was substance abuse. He is also diagnosed with an anxiety disorder, and taking the prescribed medication for that was apparently also substance abuse. AH drinking like a sailor daily, using mushrooms, cocaine and her own prescription medications was somehow NOT abuse, though. And: Substance abusers are just as vulnerable to become victims of domestic abuse as they are to become abusers. They are easily gaslighted and taken advantage of. Funny how the good doctor didn't seem to know much about that either, seeing as that was his field of expertise. It was so bad, it was like watching an SNL skit - just annoying instead of funny. His discombobulated op-ed afterwards didn't help his case either...

[@Rae777]

I was surprised he said that. I went to my mom, who's a psych nurse with ADHD to confirm the high end dosage of Adderall, and she said 60mg isn't high for a daily dose.

[@astrialindah2773]

Have you seen the KZbinrs that believe that Amber's lawyers actually got the wrong doctor spiegel? There is another doctor Spiegel whose credentials include PTSD.. and they got this quack by mistake..? I would say karma at its finest 🤣

[@lindaarrington9397]

That's what the trial was being tried on The op-ed She defamed him

[@lindaarrington9397]

@@ginakeveryn2349 he dont.... He said on the stand His patients were his victims

[@Karen_DNP]

Amber owns several hand guns including a .38 Special w/no hammer & .357 Magnum (a big handgun) and is essentially a expert shooter as she claims. She goes to a gun range weekly “as a fun hobby” and sleeps w/one under her pillow. So why would she be scared of a knife, esp the large one she gifted JD with “until death” inscribed? If he wielded it, even in jest, she could easily claim “justified Homicide”.

[@vickis2170]

Thank you for your insight into her behavior. Agreed with the circus comment and the fact it is not over anytime soon. Altho we can hope for this to end :) Very happy for JD.

[@johnmccann5104]

She must regret the trial and was seriously ill advised to do the interview judging by the millions of comments across KZbin 🇬🇧

[@doonewatts7155]

What a joy an informed, articulate conversation between two intelligent professionals

[@innervisions1828]

Amber is a textbook case of the so-called Dark Triad of Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy. People with Dark Triad traits tend to be callous and manipulative; have an inflated view of themselves and shamelessly self-promote; and be willing to deceive to get their way. As nasty as that combination sounds, such people can be alluring. They can be perceived as physically attractive, charming, and even funny. They do especially well in short-term mating situations based on first impressions (read: hookups), and with partners who fall in love easily-so-called emophilics.

[@amandabott2279]

As a UK RMN from way back including forensic intervention I congratulate you both for applying the science to this case 👍

[@jemois]

….actually… Dr Curry got annoyed with the muffin questions🤣🤣🤣 I don’t understand why they tried to spin the muffin story.

[@Lily-Bravo]

I thought they were trying to prove Dr Curry had been unprofessional by trying to show she had given her husband details of the case. Ridiculous, hilarious and a worthy failure.

[@m.c.5124]

Thank you Sir for sharing your knowledge of the British court system. I am such an Anglophile it hurts. I live in Utah and aprecia-te both you gentleman’s willingness to share.😁 I always got the feeling she would be a bunny boiler just as in Fatal Attraction.

[@Lily-Bravo]

I hope your Anglophilia has not been misplaced. I would like to see the UK trial revisited, that would suit my British sense of fair play, but in recent years I have not been convinced of that quality's existence.

[@Hartleymolly]

I think people are forgetting that Amber was taking adderall at this time. My best friend has similar issues to Ambers, when she was prescribed to adderall, for a short time, it completely changed her into a vindictive, obsessed, human. It was scary. You could not tell her anything

[@MsYazzoo]

Great video, dont forget she has narcissistic traits too, this very much contributes to her behavior eg not accepting she lost, going after JD to get a reaction, lying, seeking revenge etc etc..

[@zulu5282]

I am at this very moment going through a traumatic divorce, my ex wife has an undiagnosed personality disorder which I was subjected to throughout our relationship, I suffered domestic financial abuse and verbal abuse. I have provided evidence of this but it does not seem to interest the court.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

I'm sorry. Do you have a psychiatrist to testify for you, if that's possible?

[@zulu5282]

@@cosmicmuffin322 we have made a representation to the court, I have evidence on her pattern of behaviour over 14 years of our relationship, I was a victim of domestic financial abuse as well as verbal abuse. It is down to the court to rule if it is necessary.

[@beccagee5905]

@@zulu5282 Do you mean she purposely over spent your money in order to harm you? That would be hard to prove as some people can not control their spending. Did you ever take control over the finances, and only give her enough for reasonable needs? I know people like this and they do become verbally abusive, because it's like an addiction to spend money.

[@zulu5282]

@@beccagee5905 yes she did she took out credit with 7 online catalogues using my identity, but she used her email address so that the bills went to her, she took my bank card from me and ran up the credit card. It started from 2014 she said she would sort it we have 2 children and she would use them in an argument, I stayed because of the children until it became unbearable. She also opened an account with Klarna bank in my name. All have been investigated and reported to the police. Nothing was done except I was identified as a victim of financial domestic abuse and a victim of fraud with CIFAS.

[@suzannesmith2452]

Fascinating conversation. Thanks to you both for sharing your expertise.

[@debgalloway1398]

This video is one of the best I have seen from you on this trial. I found Dr. Das to be very interesting and in my eyes unbiased. He was clear and offered educated opinions on both Johnny and Amber and on their expert witnesses. I have a new channel to check out! Thanks!

[@lorrainet6798]

I’m a big fan of The Behaviour Panel and they did 4 episodes on AH and JP body language. That was their evaluation too, that her emotions changed without morphing. JD owned his issues and I’m sure he must have found this cathartic. This only endeared himself to those watching and helped the jury to see the truth.

[@theGhostWolfe]

Can we talk about Dr. Spiegal refuses to acknowledge that while IPV can cause trauma, not all trauma comes from IPV? Or that he’s apparently done this before, but had the nerve to ask the judge if he had to answer a specific question?

[@sofiatarn8238]

I take offense personally against her bc of the lies and accusations. And honestly, how dim is she?? You cannot possibly lie THAT BADLY!!!!

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

Brilliant discussion. Thank you both

[@50sVintage]

Heard is nauseating. What is amazing is how she continues to the present (6/27/2022) to make the same slanderous proclamations. Her interview with Savannah Guthrie would have been comical if it weren't pitiful. She believes everyone else is an idiot, constantly referring to the regular person, the average person, trying to school others, all demonstrating time and again her own deficiencies and shortcomings. A dead snail has more self-awareness.

[@lemonde1701]

100% agree

[@maboulton2355]

Yey, watched @APsychForSoreMinds the other day. Its a great uk collaboration. Looking foward to checking out uk cases with you both

[@EmbraceTerror]

I HATE the notion of taking responsibility for "your share" of alleged abuse in a relationship. That diverts most of the responsibility from the one who initiates and implements that harm and places in incorrectly onto the true victim.

[@annfrancis6287]

Yeh , you were abused because it was your fault is implied

[@tinamenon1593]

Terms such as the primary victim or core perpetrator are used to denote who the prevailing aggressor vs recipient is/are. What no one appears to address is reactive abuse based on any personality disorder. If the logic of the diagnosis is believed, why not ask if the abusive dynamic (including if JD on substances was arguably abusive in those moments, which could have triggered AH's reactive abuse where she became an aggressor & moreover due to the diagnosis reacted disproportionately). Everyone seems to think the consequences of JDs behaviour under the influence are all forgiven yet tell that to ebtire families suffering abuse at the hands of alcoholic and drug addicted individuals. Exaggeration and lying did not help AH one bit and destroyed her credibility but I found throughout the whole trial very little examination of what abusive behaviour actually looked like and was JD abusive in those instances, as well as A H abusive in her responses and to what degree of each etc?. DV is utterly nuanced and complex and what this trial did was reduce it to a popularity contest. If AH is a BPD person who acts highly abusive on occasions does that completely exonerate JD from countless acts of abuse claiming he was Mr Hyde under the influence?. The whole trial left me terrified for the future of trialling DV and that abusive partners with money will launch defamation actions to silence victims with less support and money as a matter of course now.

[@EmbraceTerror]

@@tinamenon1593 I wonder why you say that.

[@a.a9211]

Justice for JD in the UK! Please sign and share the petition by searching online: Re-open Appeal (UK) of Johnny Depp defamation case, following unanimous US Jury Verdict

[@artfullyspun5480]

I think the knife gift was a veiled threat.

[@mandajay6187]

Dr Curry addressed in court that she went for interview at JDs home, she sort council if appropriate, states Mr Depp pretty much housebound by fame, didn't have dinner, they were hungry so JD ordered some food

[@pdgg7025]

British judge very biased and did not consider fairly all the evidence including information around AH misrepresenting herself to authorities and thus questioning her character.

[@tajetaje9238]

Watched some clips from uk inquest I am sorry but I think it was a farce

[@whathappenedtomyYThandle]

In earlier years of AH's life she used a few similar diagnosis to describe herself to Therapists, a Nurse, plus. I'm not sure what the hearsay non-admissible binder has to say but perhaps that's why there is so much redacted (blacked-out). The assessment was court ordered I understand because of her own admissions which opened the door for AH to be seen.

[@selfesteem3447]

This Depp v Heard Trial is a great study for Psychology.

[@nataliemaja2947]

I believe Elaine needs to be diagnosed by a Professional as well🧐

[@Drayton627]

Amber seems to be a danger to herself and others, why isn't she sectioned?

[@louiseevans5752]

I SAID THIS TOO !!

[@louiseevans5752]

BEYOND sad!!!

[@uudd369]

Thank you for doing this.I have been diagnosed with BPD and have undergoing treatment, so this has been really insightful. I was kinda surprised when they brought up the 'knife' in cross and felt it was really not necessary...I guess I can relate to some of AHs emotions.

[@nannabannanna3958]

Glad you made a video with special guest , Dr Das, explaining more in depth about these disorders. I'm glad it was pointed out that ah needs to be removed from anything to do with abuse, that is what is giving a step back for women.

[@danatowne5498]

I wish you would cover the more subtle signs of abuse as it occurs in men. I think that would be VERY helpful, as a mother of three boys, now men. We need to better know when those we love might be in trouble.

[@Karen_DNP]

Good video! Thank you Barrister Daniel and Dr. Das. 💜✌🏼🦋

[@JohnJones-wo1bc]

Fascinating video. The descriptions of the personality disorder appeared to fit AH perfectly!

[@jemois]

Joan Crawford had this type of personality disorder.

[@debbietidwell2482]

Another excellent commentary‼️Really found Dr Das viewpoints very interesting‼️Thank you so much for your professionalism‼️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@kitti.r.est.1962]

You both are extremely fair and enlighten.. very well done 👏

[@covenant_mog05]

It was already a circus when Amber used public opinion to tear down JD for 6 years without due process. Why is it now not allowed that JD use the same public opinion to fix his image? If people are complaining about cameras in the court room i think theyre being hypocrites. The court is a formality, regardless of verdict the public opinion was already against JD, but now cameras gave all of us a front row to humanly observe both people. Amber came out as insincere and manipulative, something we didnt get to see in the UK trial.i trust more my own observations than what a news outlet "reportedly" says what happened inside a private court room. 🤔

[@janetmahoney5552]

I read that AH's team was told to call Dr. Spiegel as their expert, however, apparently it never occurred to them that that is a common name, and they actually called the wrong one! How is THAT for unprofessional counsel!?

[@johngillon6969]

Thanks a lot! I finally learned thru this video that i have borderline personality disorder. After 72 years of life, now it all makes sense to me.

[@Virtualblueart]

I like how Dr Spiegel has been quite angry that people are remote analysing himself after he showed in court that he had no qualms about doing it to other people. (against all of the best practice guidelines mind). I amateur remote analyse Dr Spiegel as an absolute hypocrite and potentially being a danger to his patients.

[@shereeholland172]

I think that the diagnoses made by Dr. Curry was formed to then coagulate the argument of her not taking responsibility, blame-shifting, projection, denial, revision of history, deflection, minimizing her drugs/alcohol usage, fabrications ... which JD's team summarized at the end through Camille Vasquez... imo

[@clairem3323]

Bravo!! First mental health professional that makes that statement of victims

[@ellieg7494]

Excellent video. I find your videos very interesting to watch and the presentation of them to be ‘to the point’ and this is refreshing, so thank you for these.

[@LathropLdST]

Nah. Sociopath. She sounds like my dad and sister, self-aggrandizing and grandiose.

[@merin797]

I think AH illustrated her disorders in court with her clothes, hair styles, messages sent via jewelry (bee) she wore. Smiles, sneers, fake tears, Excessive note passing etc….

[@raffaellavitiello1762]

The best explanations ever given for those disorders . Thankyou

[@eleveneleven572]

Borderline Personalities are truly awful people. I've a sister in law with BPD and she's left a trail of destruction throughout her life...divorces, accusations, theft, traumatised children, debts, arrears etc etc.

[@scoobydoodandy4296]

I'm sorry for your experience. We may be truly awful, I've heard similar things said about Men, and I suffer from that ailment also... Please try to understand, though, that I personally (and I can only truly give evidence on my own experience) try to be a person that I can at least live with if not really like or respect that much. I only exist, not actually live, because I fear causing harm to others. I now hate myself for wasting my life in self doubt. You are entitled to your opinion, It's just a bit tame compared to how I feel about myself a lot of the time...

[@margaretsharp499]

Weird he mentioned self harm, I thought that myself. Self harness will instigate a situation where someone else can be blamed for their own need to hurt themselves

[@tel77]

Superb discussion. Thankyou Gentlemen.

[@jenivieve8273]

I appreciated Armchair Psychiatrist's video on her potential personality disorder - that her behaviour actually seemed more akin to NPD than BPD.

[@WoodlandT]

I agree that she definitely demonstrates narcissistic and antisocial traits. I don’t think those traits negate her diagnoses as BPD & HPD. It seems likely to me that she possesses characteristics of all 4 cluster B PDs

[@jenivieve8273]

@@WoodlandT they're muddy waters anyway, hard to differentiate sometimes, but there's just something that puts me off about her behaviour that I've never experienced with BPD friends. Subjective though. I hope she gets some help but I can't see her engaging properly even in therapy.

[@tonyking9235]

THAT GUY WAS RIGHT OUT OF TOON TOWN . I WAS WAITING FOR THE WEASEL TO POP IN 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Happinc]

A person telling such lies ruining the reputation of another by making false accusations & wasting court time should be prosecuted as a deterrent to others tempted to copycat!

[@grahamf695]

Another KZbin video argued that the defence had accidentally picked the wrong Dr Spiegel as their expert witness. The video presented the other Dr Spiegel as being ideally qualified to be an expert witness in this case.

[@irinaclutterbuck4616]

If she will take responsibility, she will be admitting to perjury and to perjury by her friends.

[@poerava]

In a way, this case was a win for Amber. She saved herself $40M.

[@hellypoppy5739]

I heard on one of the experts (lawyers) channel that the jury discounted testimony from family, friends & photographic evidence & based their decision on the testimonies of the 2 protagonists & the experts….

[@sarahlang2119]

I'm pretty sure the juror said that their testimonies were the most crucial factor, but that also there wasn't any evidence to back up what she was claiming.

[@hellypoppy5739]

@@sarahlang2119 yes, you’re right…. I got it muddled

[@skipd9164]

If we all agree that the bed incident was disgusting , it's even more disgusting that no toilet paper was found anywhere

[@sparkleypegs8350]

They should televise all big cases.

[@annmowatt7547]

Welcome Dr. Das, whom I have found and watched before. Great to have you both together. Re. JD's speech, I am an INFJ and, watching JD on the stand, I reckon he is too as he speaks as I do, very hesitantly especially when discussing himself as we hate doing this and our preferred mode of communicating is through writing. If an INFJ, this would also explain so much about JD's personality as we make so many allowances for other people (AH's behaviour) and also avoid causing any hurt to others, especially those we see as abused ( letting Whitney off lightly when he had more evidence that she lied on the stand based on the deposition from Jennifer Howell.) Accepting blame and responsibilty? INFJs are very self aware and always honest and open about our faults.

[@Lily-Bravo]

I didn't know what you were talking about so looked it up. It all looks very interesting. Are these personality types accepted by psychologists? Were you diagnosed?

[@KingdomPlans]

@@Lily-Bravo They're based on the work of Carl Jungs Archetypes and no, they're not in the DSM-5 or ICD etc.

[@joricardochard2824]

This was so interesting, thank you.

[@cocos.9730]

Don't forget mister BlackBeltBarrister that in the UK trial, the judge had a conflict of interest.

[@deceiver444]

Thanx to Dr Sohom for his eloquence and enlightening answers.

[@shereeholland172]

Dr. Spiegel was a Sight for Sore Eyes!!! imo... LOL 🤣🤣😂

[@Bardtic]

I am a bit of an amateur content creator myself, focused on certain video games. And this may just be my amateur opinion but @A Psych For Sore Minds the thumbnails on your videos are too dark. Everything else is great. The border, the facial expressions etc are all great. Make the background brighter, make it pop. Most people and most phones use black mode now adays. But really enjoyed this discussion and really enjoyed @A Psych For Sore Minds

[@aligaines8476]

People don't get he's from Kentucky, then Florida. That accent, and i'm talking from childhood, with years of acting, voice training, diction, living in Europe, still remains... along with certain mannerisms/modes of speaking. When I go home, it's maddening how slow they speak... In my head i'm rotating my hand around like speed it up and preventing rolling of the eyes. Even insults go over most heads, being slow and sweetly said (may be the origin of shade). But being in the military, gone all over inside and outside the US and living in NYC for decades, they still think I speak like a Southerner and draw things out (too friendly which is suspect). But in the South, they think I speak like a Yankee and are too short (but you're expected to be patient and respectful, especially when listening to elders). Go figure.

[@l.a.w.79]

I think her primary diagnosis is NPD which explains her lack of insight. BPD is likely not primary but it is present and that is likely due to her childhood.

[@aimeerose9524]

I think she wasn't better at the whole thing because the narcissist side of her truely believes she can do no wrong, what she says id above all others voice and no matter what she is entitled to be believed.

[@wiseguymaybe]

One question for Elaine's sake. Is Dr. Sohm Das board cerified? 😁😁😛