INCIDENT 9 - "THE STAIRCASE" UK Depp Trial Barrister Analysis (Part 3)

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[@robertmac9057]

Judge Nicol in the UK case wrote a legal book with the barrister Geoffrey Robertson who is (edit: was) married to Kathy Lette, one of Heard's biggest supporters - Amber's Angels as they call themselves. Heard attended a party at Lette's London home during the UK case. Judge Nicol's wife is friends with Lette, and Lette is also a friend of Heard's UK lawyer Jennifer Robinson. The judge worked before he retired at Doughty Street Chambers, where his colleagues included Jennifer Robinson and the barrister Helena Kennedy - another prominent Heard supporter who attended the party at Lette's house. How anyone could think the judge was not compromised in this case is beyond me.

[@silentvoiceinthedark5665]

This is very common in the US family court system. The legislature basically allows family court lawyers to write the laws, so if you lose your job you have to pay $2000 to a lawyer to file in court to be heard by the judge to get a wavier during your period of unemployment. In Australia this is not a judicial matter but can be decided by a paper pusher after viewing the documentation of said unemployment

[@achitophel5852]

Nicol J also has connections with Murdoch's Sun newspaper which are too close for him not to have recused himself. Geoffrey Robertson is divorced from K Lette incidentally. As a knight in shining armour for human rights, it would e interesting for him to air his views. He's not exactly a wilting violet on this type of subject.

[@seanc.mcnally2118]

Can't stand Lette

[@mizofan]

Connections also with Rupert Murdoch, owner of The Sun, gutter trash infamous for its lies.

[@robertmac9057]

@@achitophel5852 It would certainly be interesting to hear Robertson's views on the case. Mind you I think he's been working with Nicol on an updated version of their legal textbook so he probably wouldn't want to drop his old mate in it. Maybe they could add a chapter on the Depp case in their updated book, I'm sure it would be fascinating! 😄

[@NatashaFitnessYogaPilates]

Whitney’s story was completely different with AH’s in the US alone. Then bring in the different stories from the UK, and there is zero credibility left with either of them.

[@superdave8248]

I'll be honest, I really question if all parties involved were either high or drunk as skunks when this incident occurred. Nobody questioned with this had clear memories of what happened. And to take it further, I think the two sisters had talked about this over the years and filled in the blanks of their own foggy recollections. Only in doing so, what the sisters told each other didn't jive with their own memories and they didn't realize this until they had talked it through in court testimony. Had they realized the inconsistencies they would have gotten their stories straight. But the damage was done in the UK trial. It is pretty obvious that Heard embellished the hell in that telling to get some additional publication interest in the story, and it never even dawned on her that this testimony would be questioned later and checked for validity. Sad thing is I think The Sun did learn a lesson with all of this. If they report similar stories in the future, it needs to be with a perpetrator and victim who are not UK citizens. Because the best way to avoid a defamation case is to not give the claimant an option to sue the "victim" with the news outlet in the same trial. The lesson that Depp and everyone else should have come to out of this is to sue the person who make the declaration first and then go after the news outlets for the defamation. But that gives the news outlets time to submit a revision to the story which then makes their damages considerably less if anything at all.

[@mfoco1]

@@superdave8248 ISTM highly likely that AH was drunk. JD may have been on painkillers, which would have mellowed him out rather than make him violent. If sister was on coke, she could easily misread the signs, and would undoubtedly be a very unreliable witness. AH needs to grow up and start taking responsibility for her actions.

[@NatashaFitnessYogaPilates]

@@mfoco1 well her sister knew exactly what happened because she told Jennifer Howell the real story (her former boss right after it happened) which matches with Johnny’s and the bodyguard.

[@tonyallen9213]

I rather suspect that Whitney twigged on to her game and gave a true version of what happened to avoid the size 12 boot of the law tickling her backside.

[@annakarenina3188]

Exactly Natasha. I reported them for perjury based on just the USA trial to the VA police as they completely contradicted themselves.

[@nopewmopan]

"She had not included every detail" is a theme in her testimonies. Because she adds details that didn't exist before. Sometimes phrased as "I didn't get a chance to [give all the details]" to explain why she's adding more at a later time.

[@belindacinca7275]

That’s what people do when they are lying. Just sayin’…

[@206babe]

7 times she fixed, changed, added to her statement in the UK . She was allowed sit in for the whole trial nd kept changing it after listening to the witnesses

[@MerelvandenHurk]

And "it was so short after Australia that it didn't seem like a big deal" is also complete and utter bull. There's only two ways that would work: 1) it didn't seem like a big deal to her at the time so it didn't make much of an impression in her memory, which is bull because she remembers enough details about it that are WAY, WAY less relevant than him having a cast on his hand, and it seems unbelievably unlikely that you'd remember how hard the punches were but don't remember that there was a cast all the way through recounting the story over and over and over right up until cross-examination; or 2) it didn't seem like a big deal to her while writing down the incident and that's why she didn't include all the details, but it's a friggin' witness statement. You don't treat an incident like that like "not a big deal" when you're literally making it part of your allegations, and being close to Australia has no bearing on it. You describe each incident separately, and you get out the details you need to get out there, regardless of what comes before or after. If you don't include all the details in your witness statement, that would only make sense for details that don't matter like the color of the wall or when you had last watered the plants. Being punched in the face with a CAST does not meet the criteria of "unimportant details" if you ask me. Especially not when you look at other details she describes in these incidents that are more specific and less important than him having a cast on.

[@sarahwynn6486]

Yet then in court says she brought every piece of evidence

[@Saroi3]

21:40 We are talking about Amber here who uses donate and pledge synonymously. Also "I did not punch you, I hit you." So she probably believes push, shove and swinging is all the same.

[@createinspain]

I believe she said at the UK trial that she had donated her winnings to charity and the UK judge took that as evidence of good character. Of course, we all know now that she didn't and the charities did not get the money. Meanwhile, she has now done interviews saying how unfairly she has been treated!

[@BasicCoverMan]

The money she claimed to have given away was her divorce settlement which was reached out of court. She wasn't a party to the UK case, just a witness.

[@Peter-jl4ki]

It was known at the time (even to the judge) that she likely didn't do that. He prevented evidence to that effect from entering the trial. That trial screams corruption.

[@createinspain]

@@BasicCoverMan I am aware of that

[@mfoco1]

@@BasicCoverMan if the judge uses such a statement as denoting someone to be of good character, but then learns that they lied just to look good, the judge must then consider them to be of extremely dubious character.

[@mj-jo8es]

@@icouldbewrongicouldberight Did she pledge to donate that money before JD sued the Sun, or was it during the UK trial that she suddenly said she donated it?

[@ahc1957]

This is so hard to follow and make sense of. Does anyone actually believe this as factual? Don’t forget, if he hit with a cast on, think of the pain he would feel and the possible damage to his healing finger. I broke my wrist. I was so protective of my arm in the cast. I made sure that nothing came close to it.

[@Peter-jl4ki]

Not just possible damage to the finger, guaranteed damage to the cast. Which would be documented in his personal physician's notes. The notes don't reflect damage to either.

[@jesussaves7849]

Exactly!

[@gilbertarnold8666]

If Amber was being actually clobbered with a plaster cast, there would have been INJURIES, and they would not be "minor"! Just as when she claimed Johnny was hitting her 'repeatedly" with his hands -WITH HEAVY SILVER RINGS ON..and all she had to show for all this "abuse" was one little bruise on her cheek? Just how stupid does this woman think people are? if she had been beaten as hard and as 'repeatedly" as she claimed she was (with a plaster cast and with a hand with heavy rings on all fingers, don't forget; she ALSO testified that she "never" saw Johnny without his rings!) she would have needed medical attention, at the very least, and plastic surgery at the worst!

[@johnwilson3918]

My thoughts exactly - but being the Devil's advocate - you may not fear pain - if you're high on drugs or alcohol. I would expect damage to his finger and/or cast!

[@VoguishMis]

@@johnwilson3918 but he shouldn't even be able to flex his fingers in the cast. Not enough to grab her hair and punch her with his left hand.

[@sassyboofle6983]

Oh my gosh what a wicked web we weave eh .couple of things . FIRSTLY Have you heard the audio where she states she believed that they ( herself , sister etc ) were going to get evicted . So she said that this was the only reason why she DID what she did . Sounds like an admission of black mail over her worrying about being kicked out . And she said basically do this or more trouble is coming your way . SECONDLY if this is true and admittance of lies does that mean …… well ,perjury . Veiled threats , bullying all the way .👍🤑

[@Muck006]

You can be pretty sure that he has listened to EVERYTHING ... not everything TUG headlines as "new" ... is actually new.

[@kellyfalletta1949]

Think extortion might be better term than blackmail. They might be the same, but in my mind blackmail implies she had something on Johnny, but extortion feels more like all she had was lies and threats. Legal terms also reference blackmail as extortion, which is a crime. Extortion, Perjury, Oh yeah, wonder if Elon & Murdoch family used any influence with judge on Ambers behalf. Not sure how influencing court is termed, but it’s also a crime. The list is endless

[@kazzer115]

I just saw that audio & her texts yesterday! and her obv. trying to blackmail him. She'd withdraw the accusations - it was upto him - if he'd give her what her lawyer's letter demanded (Penthouses, $$$$ etc) I believe she knew he was done with her/gravy train ending & went psycho 'Gone Girl'... had IO call cops, trashed the place, whacked herself... got the RO & called Paps to take pics outside court. She was going to make him suffer AND good! Plus get some $Millions.

[@ladooshka]

The cast actually was soft and also the doctor stated that if you hit with a cast it would break. His cast was never broken

[@EmmaLemmon]

It would also have been too painful for him with a healing severed finger.

[@lindagreen1534]

He didn’t hit her……period!

[@phil4986]

I wish you had been another attorney on Johnny's already great team. Great and fair analysis as usual.

[@Aisaaax]

I mean, I know you as a barrister is trying to remain impartial and to not accuse the judge too much. But to me, personally, it seems like the judge made up his mind and then just stretched the evidence to fit his idea.

[@annakarenina3188]

Before I start watching... I actually reported this very item to the Virginia police department "tips line" thing (their version of crimestoppers) for perjury..... Gonna watch your video now, see if we spotted the same things in the testimonies.

[@annakarenina3188]

Okay.... Take your video, and compare it to this from Whitney's testimony and Amber's, with a 3D model of the staircase... Then also what Jennifer Howell's sworn deposition statement (court letterhead) was on top (along with her letter, which was a separate document too). kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGXKlqmqg76AeNE It was potentially perjury even without the UK statements, and with your analysis too, it seems to just go even further down that rabbit hole.... I cannot comment on what UK judges should do. But I do wonder if combined, this event alone could be enough to have the whole UK case opened, as it has so many discrepancies between AH and WH between both USA and UK. Of course, time can cause memory to deteriorate, but this seems far too into being non credible, imo (and my opinion alone: this isn't my field, and anything I say here is personal thoughts, not to be taken as representative of any legal body in the UK).

[@kristen1441]

Police aren’t involved with perjury.

[@annakarenina3188]

@@kristen1441 wait, what?! Who investigates and gathers evidence regarding perjury in the USA then? Perjury is a crime in the USA, right? It's a very serious crime in the UK, and can carry up to (I think) 7 years in prison over here. (But it has the criminal standards of proof of beyond reasonable doubt; mens rea, actus reus; and all that.)

[@superdave8248]

Not in Virginia and not an attorney. But this is a civil case not a criminal one. In this case a DA would have to push back hard on the perjury. But I think that would require a second trial as this would be a new charge or in this case a single criminal charge. So in this situation, you would need to have a Virginia DA charge Heard with perjury in a civil case that they don't even have any coverage over. It might get thrown out by the judge before it even saw the light of day. A civil case is outside of the realm of a DA privledge to prosecute and if the prosecutor isn't a invested party, then the charges get dropped. Probably the only person in this case who could file for perjury would be either Depp's legal team or the judge. But in order to do that, you would have to take into account the UK trial testimony and evidence which was outside the realm of scope for this case. So just like the DA in the previous statement is outside of scope for the perjury, so to would be the judge and Depp's legal team. They could only claim perjury if there was submitted evidence to conflict with the given testimony. Further, although it is pretty obvious that the testimony in the UK trial conflicts with the evidence in the US trial, the two countries have different legal systems. And the evidence for one would likely not be a submittal to the other.

[@kristen1441]

@@annakarenina3188 District attorneys.

[@kellyfalletta1949]

I’ve followed US trial and noted inconsistencies and do believe grounds for perjury. Thank you for the extensive detail in the inconsistencies in UK trial that further substantiate they both should be charged with its perjury. I know that the UK judge has retired, but really: why has the appeal not been reopened and why has the judge not been investigated for his own inconsistencies in case evidence?

[@Khumzwi]

'Hitting' someone with a cast is equivalent to assault with a deadly weapon. It's like someone 'hitting' you with, for example, a bat or a hammer in your hands. That's VERY important info to have omitted, coupled with both sisters' stories being inconsistent. The fact that Ms. Turd and her skivvy never mentioned that Johnny hit them with a cast on, as it wasn't such a biggie, is enough for any judge to realize both committed perjury. Just absolutely disgusting and corrupt for a judge to clearly not take his oath seriously.

[@ernaanspach473]

Jennifer Howell's account of the incident, (though not admitted in court) was available on line and tells a whole different story of the incident. It may still be available on Incredibly Average (Brian's) channel.

[@chrisdavidson8525]

That was really eye-opening, it blew Whitney's testimony out of the water.

[@CaliWeHo]

Yes! Whitney was trying to stop AMBER from hitting Johnny!

[@khensani_m2282]

@@CaliWeHo which would make sense as to why she was facing amber.usually when you are stopping a fight you are facing the aggressor as to protect the victim. if they are both attacking each other you probably have your hand out to each telling them to stop .why would your back be towards the person attacking. makes no sense at all

[@matthewdon9565]

A relatively minor detail but an important one, the cast on JD's hand was a part cast as opposed to a full heavy cast.

[@CarrieMK]

According to JD’s surgeon (this was presented as evidence in the trial), the cast on his hand was soft and hitting anyone would have cause him a lot of pain. They also saw no evidence that his wound sustained such abuse.

[@barbaramongoose9]

Brilliant analysis!!! Probably the best I've seen so far on the 'staircase incident'.

[@michelleanderson8370]

Thank you for your insight into explaining the 2 cases and why they are so different. I can't see perjury charges coming tbh. Someone is obviously lying and if UK courts can be convinced to allow another appeal then those discrepancies will feature big and bold as new evidence of lying to the court to get the verdict reviewed

[@gerriebell2128]

Obvious evidence of lying and she acts dismayed in today’s TV interview that the jury didn’t believe her? She forgets how many people actually saw her testimony.

[@michelleanderson8370]

@@gerriebell2128 She disregards it...We are all nobodies to her. They always talk about 'fans' but not all of us are movie buffs. I watched it all and didn't believe her because she is not credible.

[@BlackStump172]

@@michelleanderson8370 It is highly unlikely that that number of people are fans of Johnny Depp . I was not a fan and did not know much about him until the TRO but had seen him in a couple of movies . The sheer number of victims of DV who have spoken out because of Amber’s obviously abusive behaviour is because they watched the trial .

[@sarahoriordan7862]

Loving these vids! I thought the exact same thing when her sister started saying what had happened!

[@MervynPartin]

I think that the UK court system needs you as a judge, BBB. You definitely have better reasoning powers than some of the present incumbents.

[@hollyerorabaugh4406]

New sub and I’m so happy to hear from someone in the uk and a professional barrister!

[@karthymcg2104]

I like to hear your analysis of the UK judgment as I’m from USA and don’t understand it

[@johnllewlyndavies222]

The judge's son worked with the man accused of libel. That was about it.

[@Peter-jl4ki]

The UK judgement is made by one single person, who has a way better understanding of the law than a jury does, higher average intelligence, better access to evidence, but - unlike a jury - doesn't need to convince several other people that their interpretation is right. A diligent judge who wants to be just is always superior to a jury. The jury got it right, the judge did not. BBB, being a barrister in the UK - and probably wanting to keep things that way - would offend the wrong king of people if he publicly accused the judge of not being diligent and lacking the intention to be just. So, being English, he used more words to say exactly the same.

[@andreass2301]

Thank you for doing these videos. I followed the UK trial in the papers, and was surprised at the judge's decision, and how he could have come to it. This sheds some interesting light on the matter. It is also worth saying that you must be a brave barrister with little regard for his career to pick apart a Judge's decision so publicly!

[@selenea7788]

Thank you for looking at the UK evidence/judgement. His honour established AH's credibility on three accounts, primarily the charity donations. AH and her sister, sat and listened to evidence prior to their testimony. Allegedly, AH and her sister were using their phones in court. So many inconsistencies in the UK trial. JD would have sustained injuries to his pinned finger. JD is also right-handed and could not grab or make a clenched fist to punch with a finger in a splinter cast. I hope this case is looked at again with costs not being met by JD. Imo, an unsafe judgement was made.

[@MizpahMoo]

Great observations Dan. So many inconsistencies!! Have to see that Amber couldn’t stay quiet for long and we will see an interview from her soon! How many more inconsistencies and lies will come forward & how many other people will she blame for what happened.

[@aquanettarobinson2064]

The staircase finally. Play act it out and do your jaw drop. Do AH VERSION AND WHITNEY VERSION. SOMEBODY(ies) lying.

[@ingiford175]

Which AH version, the UK version or the US version as they are different.

[@erichenry5000]

All together 😂

[@KravKernow]

Wow, the level of painstaking forensic analysis you put into this is staggering. I have nothing of note to add; you covered everything pertinent. It does give a nice jumping off point to discuss an issue that arose from this in the US trial. To be lazy I'll just cut and paste something I wrote at the time. It was on Twitter hence the broken up format; but that does set out each issue quite handily. As KZbin sometimes freaks out about pasting I'll try that in a separate post.

[@Laurennnnnn13]

Thank you for sharing this! The judge was completely biased not to mention conflict of interest. #justiceforjohnnydepp

[@jovicrazed]

Not that it impacted the outcome (though I suppose it might have impacted the $$ awarded, though I doubt it) I wish that Camille would have clearly pointed out the discrepancies between AH's and WH's account of the stairs incident.

[@TheasChristmasVillages]

Yours is one channel I still listen to, I really like your clear and concise (and unemotional, non-dramatic) analysis of the issues and your unambiguous conclusions. I'm subscribed and will be as long as you offer this type of content. Thank you.

[@alchemistcrow8960]

I guess we need not critique JD's team, given that they won. Still, they made choices which confuse me. For example, I would have used prior testimony to impeach both WHE and AH, which they did not go hard on. More, I do not understand why JD's team did not subpoena witnesses, rather than use video deps. Howell needed to be there, so that all of her testimony could have been included.

[@VoguishMis]

Technically, I think Howell's testimony wasnt considered much as it's not from the either parties but a witness.

[@kaz719]

Wonderful to listen to your clear explanation of the statements and incidents. Your videos are easy to understand to those of us who have never been in court or given statements, sometimes you can get lost in 'court speak' and it's a pleasure to listen to you. Keep up your great work!

[@kelly-marie]

Thank you. I’ve been waiting for someone to talk about this.

[@pisgah2715]

Completely agree. Thank you for laying it out so well.

[@Spacey7]

Being hit by a person with a cast on their hand would cause significant damage too! That's apart from how much it would hurt the person with the injury beneath the cast...

[@terrym540]

As I recall, in the USA trial the sister's evidence contradicted that of AH. She stated that she was coming up the stairs to join AH when JD came up behind her and pushed her in the back. So if she had fallen it would have been up the stairs not down.

[@r.s.flores3687]

Dear Black Belt -I would love to see you go in depth on the connection between the judge and the UK and the Sun media. Love to see you dig that stuff up.

[@X3r0.]

I think you’re bang on with the Purgery (sp?) . She should be held accountable for her lies. The truth shall always out

[@stevenwaters3681]

One detail that also stands out, Whitney had her back to the stairs. If she was trying to break up the fight as Amber claims, why was she facing Amber and NOT Johnny if he was the aggressor?

[@southernstateofmindhelps]

Is perjury that difficult to prove in a court of law? I don't understand why AH continues to flaunt her lies with no consequences.

[@GALACTICOSesports]

AH Lawyer: "Ms. Heard has not lied, it is that in her UK multiverse she says one thing and in her USA multiverse she says another, but in both she tells the truth."

[@prattleanddaub]

Brilliant content. Detailed, lucid and informative. In terms of the relationships between key UK and US individuals; the UK trial seems controversial ~ I repeat, conspiratorial, sorry, I meant, controversial. The judge is said to have had two disputable cases on his record, prior to his retirement; one of them being Johnny Depp's.

[@sharonjonsy9412]

Thank you for your analysis!! I hope you link this to Camille because I read Johnny may challenge the judge's ruling. It's very hard to believe the judge's reasoning.

[@karenfrashier7604]

Johnny's security testified on this..he was there. That is who I would believe and the only one I would believe, besides Johnny. Johnny's security is wonderful and glad they have been there for him! Amber only gave a little of what she wanted in the UK trial. It is all catching up now. Check The Umbrella Guy for a lot of truthful info. So glad you are interested in finding the truth cause AH is not telling any truth...anyone can tell from what she says! It was said she knew the person close to the judge also and was said that played a part...I would need to look it up but was on UTube also.Some of her explanations do NOT make sense! Johnny would need about 4 arms to get it all done! His finger was full of infection and would hurt terribly as it was without even bumping it on anything let alone hitting it!

[@rossykay1876]

I just subscribed to your Channel because of your detailed explanation of this case. Good job

[@sabbimoriarty8887]

Petition is signed, thank you for set it up!

[@bernadettecrawford3656]

You speak the truth sir

[@alwinvandongen7990]

Interesting to see the UK info. Thanks. A bigger inconsistency is the fact that in the UK JD allegedly hit AH multiple times first. Whereas in the US trial AH, did a preemptive swing ‘without even thinking’ to protect her sister. One would think one would remember vividly, being hit multiple times by a hand in a cast.

[@mcscas68]

By defaming Johnny Depp she has created her own infamy! Infamy infamy they've all got it in for me. To quote a carry on film line.

[@asseyez-vous6492]

Carry on Cleo 😂

[@lynnc28]

😂😂😂 ..read that hearing Kenneth Williams voice

[@mcscas68]

@@lynnc28 👍

[@mcscas68]

@@asseyez-vous6492 👍

[@mcscas68]

That's right Kenneth played Julias Ceasar and Sid James was Mark Anthony. And what a convincing Cleopatra Amanda Barrie was! (aka Alma Sedgwick Coronation Street)

[@Pezled]

Just FYI - the cast on JD's hand was a "soft" cast. It was only hard on one side. It's the kind of cast used when it's a finger that will swell, leaves space for the swelling.

[@phildasso3214]

You know when Amber Turd is lying, when her lips move.

[@tonywoodford9164]

I really think it's important we in UK take another look at the case. She should be investigated for perjury. And an appeal!

[@helenfrench5467]

Wow AH gaslighting on ABC

[@samanthaalexander1756]

I would really love to see this ...., person, AH, charged with everything available within the law. However, I would be really surprised if she is charged with perjury at any level in either country. Sadly, these people genuinely believe their own stories and get away with their lies, regardless of how ridiculous they are or whatever their psychiatric issues. How much does she have to say (whether it be under oath or post-trial on International TV) before she is officially "certified"????

[@anniet6292]

We have also learned that Johnny was wearing a soft cast and that he had a merca infection. Quite painful. Excellent job of the inconsistency of their statements.

[@matthewhenthorn3343]

I will admit I can see a situtation where the Shove, swing and pull can fit in, if we take Amber's sister's account as true. If Johnny Depp came up the stairs from behind Whitny, it is possible that he could make a move that can be interprited as a pull by the victim, or a shove by vitneses to clear her from his path. It would also make a swinging motion that may have directed her towards the stairs I also think that in these circumstances the lack of mentioning the cast isn't a major factor. when being hit with a fist, it's not like in a novel where every punch is mapped out in detail. it's a hit to the head though it would increase the injuries significantly. However i would ask why Whitney was facing away from Johnny, since if an agressor was chasing after my siblings, I would be facing them. that would make a world of difference in the liklihood of being pushed, pulled or punched would effect my possition on the stairs and give me more chance to hold the agressor back. The fact she claimed she was facing Amber implies in my mind that Amber was the Agressor, not the victim.

[@angela5627]

Awesome thank you for these breakdowns and explanations

[@xgnon8122]

"I use pull, swing, shove, and push synonymous"

[@marcelbenner993]

Yo Daniel, just a quick question for understanding: Johnny's bodyguard Travis McGivern said something completely different than AH, WH and JD, namely that he was in between Amber and Johnny. How would you as a barrister assess his testimony?

[@annabee4497]

Peter Tragos of the Lawyer you Know (US) Rob from The Law & Lumber (US) Ian Runkle from the Runkle of the Bailey (Canada) are the most professional lawyers of integrity on KZbin that I have come across during the AH/JD trial.

[@susantunbridge4612]

Everyone should read "Laughing Gas" by P.G. Wodehouse. Not specifically to this case, but sort of --

[@jethroscotty1]

While I understand that Jennifer Howell statement being subsequent to the UK trial had no bearing on that proceeding, I was surprised it was not part of your analysis regarding future charges of perjury. But I'd love to hear your thoughts

[@MotherOfVincentLePew]

Please could you talk about judge Nichols & the UK case in depth? Please! It's driving me crazy that nobody is talking about this!! I've been fuming about it all since 2019!Judge Nichols' son works for Talkradio a sister company of Sun newspaper, he works with Dan wootton (who wrote THE article). Sun Newspaper & Talkradio owned by Rupert Murdoch & his son (murdochs) is on the board of directors at Tesla. Elon musk owns Tesla,he was bonking Amber at the time & paying her legal fees. Amber is also involved with judge nichols wife, attending a charity fundraiser with her in 2018! 😡😡 They CHOSE this judge because they could BUY him!!! SHAME ON YOU JUDGE NICHOLS!!!

[@ritafortino2526]

Why can't the UK judge be questioned regarding this case. There seems to be more going on than meets the eye.

[@peterpayne2219]

My one take is that if I had to give tests my about any event in my life, my statements would “drift” as I re-re-re-remembered them, which could happen to anyone. We are all super callable at recalling stuff, as I learned when I witnessed an accident in Japan and had to give a detailed explanation of what happened to the police, and it was super hard.

[@richardmalec]

Hi Blackbelt Barrister in ref to the Swing, punch, pull part of your video, you have to understand that Amber uses these words synonymously like pledged/donated. 🤷‍♂️

[@jeremy2875]

Definitely perjury when Amber said she wasn't the one who contacted TMZ and provided the "video". As we now know, only the owner of the video could have given TMZ permission to copyright and publish the video as quickly (15 minutes) as they did.

[@adefay7813]

This was a very good analysis of both trails or should I say, "the tail of two trails" 🙄🙄

[@blankamagnolia2994]

How does perjury work? I don't think JD would sue AH again, he wants to get on with his life. But shouldn't Prosecution start an investigation against AH regarding these hearing these "inconsistencies" either in UK or in the US?

[@jennibarnes140]

Don't forget she made a big deal in the Sun UK circus, that her sister was pregnant at the time, which is why she was worried and react-punched, hmmmm time lines??? Many say the timing was wtong.... check her son's birthday... Didn't mention it once in Virginia!!!!

[@surferdude4487]

If someone had hit me repeatedly and hard with a CAST, I'm pretty sure it would have been a detail I would include with my account. What's more, if someone held me by the hair and did that, my entire face would be minced meat. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that this incident occurred the way that AH described it. That judge needs to be investigated. Edit: What's more, if two people give three substantially different accounts of the same incident, you can be certain that somebody is lying.

[@anaraquelmendoza4087]

Virginia has a very general statute that says " Every single Court shall have jurisdiction to award injuctions whether the judgment or proceeding enjoined be in or out of the circuit or the party gainst whose proceedings the injuction be asked resides in or out of the circuit" " 2021 Code of Virginia Title 8.01 - Civil Remedies and Procedure Chapter 24 - Injunctions" She doesn't fear judgments or injunctions or even disapproval. She fears being irrelevant and ignored. As soon as everyone forgets she exists, she will.

[@cellyszn20]

If you think this is bad, you should see the coachella incident in the UK trial because in the UK trial, both AH and WH says that WH was the one that was drunk and puking not AH as AH was never drunk. Even though the witness said they saw AH drunk and puking but that same witnesses was ruled as confusing both sisters. In the US trial, guess who now says she was the one that was puking and drunk, AH. If I'm honest, it makes sense why Dan Wooton hasn't said a word regarding the verdict.

[@ReptilesGeniales]

Thanks for your opinions on the statements.

[@hargitsingh4971]

Let's push harder for an appeal of the UK judgement 👍👍

[@simonrook5743]

A typical sociopath, can’t stop embellishing her version of ‘the truth’ to the point that she probably doesn’t even know what the truth is anymore.

[@pfnt8697]

The UK judge was 100% biased against Johnny Depp and this was 100% because of the judges connections with the Newspaper involved in the case. This judge should have excused himself WRONG doing in all accounts!

[@kionasehan2256]

Agree, Whitney's staircase story does not jive with Amber's staircase story. So, why is the Uk court not calling on AH and charged her with perjury

[@LadyOneko]

Not to mention Whitney's statement in the Virginia trial changed to 'he ran up the stairs and punched me in the back of my shoulder'

[@juliayoung537]

And Amber is confused why no one believes her 🤷‍♀️... Great channel! ❤️

[@roses9339]

Great breakdown, I do wish the Judge looked at the real evidence. I wonder if he was smitten by AH????. Cheers Rosemary Perth Western Australia (71 yrs)

[@damonfinken]

As for the can of Redbull. It could have been either significant or insignificant. It's shape is long like a stick, the ends are blunt as the side is soft. Also, it didn't say if it was full and unopened or empty and opened. If it was unopened it is mostly solid and has mass, since the liquid has no place to escape. But even a full can loses impact if the can is open. And depending on how the can strikes, the impact is reduced. Then if was opened, was it full? An empty can has very little mass. Again reducing the significance. The real question is, why don't we have these details about the Redbull can?

[@nlwilson4892]

If people are used to physical fights is is very easy to get things confused, people can miss bits. It is possible (even likely) that Depp took hold of Whitney's arm from behind and moved her to the side hence a pull and push. But if he was behind her, then she is facing Amber, therefore it is Amber she is trying to stop. However, other things are inconceivable that she'd miss or get mixed up over. If he had a cast whilst hitting her, that is really significant. If he was downstairs or upstairs when the fight started. If there were blows before Whitney stood in between them. In these 3 things there are inconsistencies that can not be explained away. The security person's "when we entered the residence" I believe he is referring the the building itself as being the residence, just using the wrong word essentially. Very understandable from a bodyguard type person as there is a big difference from being in a public area to an enclosed secure area which the foyer of the building was to a certain extent. One thing not mentioned is that if you believe there is a danger of someone falling down a drop, your natural reaction is to pull them away from the drop. You would not lunge towards that drop, that makes no sense at all. It isn't about a calculated strategy, it is a natural reaction that would happen regardless of the state of panic or fear.

[@rita6314]

Fantastic job 👍

[@ConiferousWaffle]

Keep up the good work...❤️

[@pamelalutes8189]

I agree the judge needs to be investigated or just throw out case for negligence. . Whole case needs to be looked at. Really should be sued. UK judge investigated.

[@grantstewart457]

Great analysis thank you, would be great to get you in the same room with Elaine to debate her claims of bias against Amber

[@Stacy-]

I believe Jennifer Howell's version that she got straight from Whitney immediately after it happened. Whitney went to live with her and obviously explained why she need a place to stay. Neither Whitney or Amber's version make sense. If Whitney'got between Johnny & Amber, which is what she told Jennifer, she was facing Amber the entire time, with her back to the stairs. When someone is blocking another person they face the person they are trying to block. Whitney was facing Amber, therefore blocking Amber from hitting Johnny. If she was worried about Johnny hitting Amber, she would've faced Johnny. Nobody blocks hits from their back, it doesn't make sense. So to me the most likely scenario was what Whitney told Jennifer. Whitney told her, she was afraid Amber was going to push her (Whitney') down the stairs, not Johnny. Especially if Johnny was behind Whitney on the stairs. You can't push someone down the stairs if you are behind them blocking their path. If Johnny would've pushed Whitney, it would be UP the stairs. Logical, neither Whitney or Amber's version make any sense. Jennifer Howell has no need to lie & told the only version that makes sense.

[@Marwolaeth01]

V Redbull can... I had a thought about it. Ah yes! The red bull can was never thrown and struck Johnny, or not enough to warrant mention, because Ms. Lloyd didn't write about it in her text message, the full and accurate account of the nights proceedings according to the judge? But why is that the end of the matter? In Whitney's statement she alleges the red bull can was thrown and struck Ms. Lloyd! Yet it never got added to the text message either. I would imagine that it is pretty obvious a red bull can got thrown at some point, since two parties mention it, but who threw it and who it hit are in dispute. If it struck Ms. Lloyd and she's the only account to be believed, then surely she would have written about that too? I would suspect this means she didn't write about it as she just didn't notice it or think it relevant and both of those thoughts make me lean towards her not being the one that got hit by the can. Making Whitney's testimony even less credible if we use the judges preference for the text message as an accurate account.

[@irena4545]

That text message about both of them having to be physically restrained or else they would have hurt each other gave me a pause, though. It changes nothing about AH being an aggressor and a liar, but IIRC, Debbie Lloyd's testimony was rather evasive, and I wonder why.

[@carolineyates4746]

i was upset about what has happened to JD that woman wrecked his life but now he has got it back. i listened on youtube to a recording of JD and Amber talking where she is telling him that for 3 years she has faked bruises with make up and taken pictures, put in place text messages to her friends about him hurting her and mentions the police coming out but she was fine etc. i dont know from a law prespective but part of that long recording was used in this court case but that piece wasnt used and i dont understand why

[@jla98765]

This is completely different to both versions in the Virginia trial. Unbelievable

[@lance134679]

There are more versions of the Staircase Incident than remastered versions of the Star Wars Original Trilogy.

[@SitDownAndChill]

From what the doctor said. it was a soft cast and JD would not have been able to grab Ah with the cast hand nor would he have been able to hit her with it as it would have hurt him too much

[@chrislink3254]

I’m sure the doctor said only the fingers had a hard cast and the rest of the hand soft however as there were pins in his hand using this hand to hit her would have resulted in more serious injuries for him as well as her

[@nickcosentino5368]

The good old UK with just a judge. It's obvious she has skills.

[@franklinrangel5540]

excellent points of views

[@jessicaotterson4645]

Johnny Depp was telling the truth

[@emarteliz]

I will definitely share 🙏👍🤞

[@nickjones9867]

I'm fascinated to know if the B.B.B would go out of his way to avoid any proceedings with Judge Nicol due to it being fairly evident that his judgements are questionable at least at worst subject to external interference from external parties.