Glad to see this technology still available! Wish they made the one for 8mm/Super 8 film.
@FlashCadallic5 ай бұрын
Yes. Me too.
@TotallyGoodatGames4 жыл бұрын
That thing is so cool! It looks so retro yet futuristic.
@Uknowjustin5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this and for keeping film alive!
@MidwestFilmCo5 жыл бұрын
Hey, just doing my part! Hoping to add an 8mm scanner soon. Need to get back on the instructional shooting videos ASAP! Thanks for the comment! Appreciate you!
@dawsonboyle995 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Hope this company flourishes! 👍
@MidwestFilmCo5 жыл бұрын
Dawson Boyle This means a lot. Thanks so much!!!
@kurbeltvkanal3 жыл бұрын
Well, terrible company
@Stanlyok3 жыл бұрын
@@kurbeltvkanal I think Dawson meant Midwest Film Co, the ones behind this video, not Blackmagic (=
@edtsvids6265 ай бұрын
I'm learning how to use this scanner at the moment and this video was very helpful, proper information. Thanks, and all the best!
@sgtpepper11384 жыл бұрын
"Over the sticky rollers" is the name of my band ;)
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha... let's hear it!
@christianschonberger96953 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Looks like Super 16. Seems to be a little unstable but perfectly stabilized. This confirms my being reluctant to Ultra 16 conversions for cameras that don't have a rock steady image since we are stuck between sprocket holes. Super 16 has enough headroom/leeway when cropped to 1.78:1 or 1.85:1 to allow for stabilization and even a little vertical reframing. Just my usual ramblings. Thank you so much for keeping film alive! Have a great Christmas and a happy, healthy and successful 2021!
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
16 can be every bit as stable as 35 really. When you're running a high end, well tuned camera like the SR2 it will be rock solid! If you're shooting with a K3 or a Bolex that hasn't been to the doc for a while you can get some bad bounce for sure!
@christianschonberger96953 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo thanks for the reply. I have a Super 16 converted K-3. Surprisingly stable. As soon as I have the cash, I will look for a second, better camera. An Arri SR2 is out of reach. Lots of professional russian gear used for sale, but camera repair/refurbishing/ conversions costs a fortune and these cameras almost always come without lenses and these are hard to find. Might go for a good old Arri S with some nice glass and later convert it to Ultra16.
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
@@christianschonberger9695 I've scanned more K3 footage than anything else since buying the scanner. It's one of those super affordable cameras that makes getting into film easy. I've never shot with one but I'm totally gonna buy one! As soon as I start running film on the scanner I immediately pick up the K3 frame - it's a bit bouncy and will even have a shutter lag effect between frames. If you have a stable one, that awesome! As far as Ultra16 goes, I haven't found a use for it... with scanners scanning at higher and higher resolutions it's hard to justify the massive cost of that conversion. Just my two cents!
@TweetBomb4 жыл бұрын
What an incredible informative video! I'm looking to shoot multiple short films next year on 16mm B&W and for my scans I will definitely be coming to you guys! Keep up the great work and thank you for keeping film alive!!!
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Can't wait to see what you shoot!
@Statuskuo755 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Dont forget to assign and embed timecode at punch...HR 1:00, HR 2:00 and so forth. This makes it possible to revisit footage in case you want to conform to higher resolution and just scan footage you want! But yeah...seems like that will be for another episode. 👊❤🎞
@MidwestFilmCo5 жыл бұрын
Indeed Thom. That's for the episode with you explaining how an actual scanning tech works on a daily basis! I'll get you my little pretty!
@Statuskuo755 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo i pretty much nap until someone pokes me with a broom handle
@MidwestFilmCo5 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA! But, if you were working at "real-time"... there would be only time for cat naps.
@Bgroundfilms3 жыл бұрын
Oh man!! I’m watching this right now, I’m speechless, shot a movie on 35mm but never really had chance to transfer it to HD 4K because it was extremely expected to to so, the price was actually the price of this scanner. Hope to do business with you
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
Happy to scan a short bit of the OCN if you'd be interested in remastering the film you shot! Hit us up at midwestfilmco.com!
@user-xj4wc4yw7l5 жыл бұрын
Always give me an inspiration!
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope to get back to shooting more episodes!
@richardsisk17703 жыл бұрын
Great. I appreciate this well presented video. May have to dig out my old 16mm footage! Thank you!
@Meteotrance Жыл бұрын
Amazing piece of gear, i hope they build a wet gate option, for realy damage film there is plenty of old 16 mm or 35 mm that need to be archived, some place have probably editing table that can scan, but not with HDR quality that this machine does, some company can scan very large format but it's expensive and they expert at this for some hollywood movie.
@FilmOne1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video do you rent out the scanner we have Negative and outtakes of 17/35 MM films we like to transfer.
@paulscinemareel56714 жыл бұрын
Very cool !
@GeoffreyThomasGonzales5 жыл бұрын
woooooooooooooo
@MattyGregg-bp6dn4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, very informative! Quick question I'm hoping you can answer because I want to see if mine is working properly: when you hit the load button without any reel or clamps/dividers on, what's supposed to happen? Are both reels supposed to rotate effortlessly?
@MidwestFilmCo4 ай бұрын
Thanks! If you don't have film on the reels it won't load. Justin
@VariTimo4 жыл бұрын
Please more!
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
VariTimo We’re working on episodes now. Any suggestions?
@serr3 ай бұрын
How would you rate the scanner for 16mm? People hate on it for not giving us a full HD scan for 16, but how does it look in real world usage, especially considering how good resolves superscale can be?
@MidwestFilmCo3 ай бұрын
You nailed it. It’s sharp and scaleable. Good color reproduction. It’s a really great scanner for the price. No, you can’t compare it to a $200,000 scanner 😂🤫
@TinLeadHammer Жыл бұрын
Hi, great video! In the user manual BM stresses out that this is not a telecine machine, but rather a scanner. On another hand, they claim it is full-speed 24-fps scanner, so from a user's point of view effectively a telecine? I saw a comment below from another owner who said that the frame rate drops on his machine, supposedly because of slow HDD/SSD. I guess, if it were a true telecine, the frame rate would not drop? By reading the user manual it is not clear whether it saves each frame in an individual file, or whether it creates a video in proprietary format. Reading the manual, it seems that sound is not being recorded live, but rather is stored as part of the frame, and then you need to extract sound from the clips, and at this point it would convert optical track into sound. So, at this point, the whole reel is already merged in a single video clip, or each frames are still sit around individually?
@MidwestFilmCo Жыл бұрын
The Cintel is a frame x frame scanner - it just captures each frame in "real-time" or faster. You can run the machine up to 30fps. It creates individual frame files in the .cri (cintel raw) format. I don't have the audio reader so can't speak to that. I use a piece of software to convert the audio file to a wav in post when I'm doing archival with sound. Hope that helps.
@speakeasyarchives8764 Жыл бұрын
I'm very enveist of you having this great scanner. It made me start saving for the cintel Blackmagic scanner 3. After having this scanner for a while. Do you still like it? What else can you show about the scanne?.
@MrErtonn4 жыл бұрын
amazing
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We're having a blast scanning film!!!
@VortekShow4 жыл бұрын
Hello, all the best for your company and keeping film alive. Would you mind showing me how the light source of the scanner works? I am trying to build my own, but there is no material on the Internet. Every commercial scanner seems to use something along the lines of an integrating sphere. Would love to learn how they are designed!
@Agroulinggrwaler19995 жыл бұрын
Hi! I've been working with a Cintel II Scanner for the past years and have done hundereds of documentaries, shorts, newsreel, trailers and almost two handfull of feature films. If you want any advice on how to get the most out of it or have discovered something yourself then feel free to get in touch with me. Please use proper gloves though. ;) One thing I noticed when working with color film is that you get quite noticeable noise levels in chroma due to the bayerfilter. This is especially noticeable in whites when scanning negatives. Setting chroma NR to 20-25 in the DaVinci Color Tab (before applying any grade) pretty much eliminates that while still keeping all of the grain intact.
@MidwestFilmCo5 жыл бұрын
Hey! There are people out there using the Cintel!!! Thanks so much for reaching out. I have noticed the same when it comes to noise. A little birdie told me that the 6K camera is coming - and there is an upgrade. I'm assuming it's the Pocket 6K sensor, which I shot with the other day... that will pretty well eliminate all noise in the highlights. If they let us take advantage of the 3200ISO there could be some amazing scans of super dense film as well... I'm really enjoying the scanner! Again. Thanks for reaching out. Feel free to shoot me an email - justin@midwestfilmco.com!
@originaltrilogy13 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo Any news on this upgrade?
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
@@originaltrilogy1 Nah... they just released a "sproket-less" model but no upgrade on the camera. I don't get it. They have the tech... they own the tech... just upgrade the camera already. That being said, I'm getting amazing scans as is. Would I take the ability to scan 16mm without cropping into the sensor at 4K, yes I would!
@originaltrilogy13 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo It's crazy to me, sensor tech has moved on, they have the tech in-house, I honestly don't understand sticking with the old camera.
@nickjones9558 Жыл бұрын
I work on a television archive and we have kind of 20000 films. Im looking for ways to digitalize that material, but is very complicated to find a professional solution.
@MidwestFilmCo Жыл бұрын
Are you looking for a unit to own? The Cintel is fast and does a really nice job! If you have the audio reader it can capture image/sound simultaneously. Happy to run some stuff for you!
@minarimon31064 жыл бұрын
thanks
@FrenchingAround3 жыл бұрын
good news everyone!
@speakeasyarchives8764 Жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since this video came out. Do you still like the scanner? Are you going to do more tutorials on this scanner? Thanks.
@niknikktm3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with a number of the comments here: For years Blackmagic Design left a lot to be desired with their Cintel unit and there are a number of red flags in regards to that. First the lack of technical information (they finally provided a link for a manual just last year) on the Cintel product. Second the lack of customer service and response to customer inquiries. Blackmagic acquired Cintel around 2014 and pretty much treated the product line like it's red headed stepchild for far too long. It may have improved by now, I don't know, but whenever I see a company pay little attention to it's paying customers in regards to a particular product, I walk away and don't look back. You hear that Lucasfilm???
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
Ha. It hasn't been great as far as customer service but they eventually get back to you. In a market of multi $100,000 scanners this scanner is really great. I mean - I'd love to drop a couple hundred K on a scanner but it doesn't make sense for lower volume. As my volume has picked up I've really been looking into adding a scanner that will handle 8mm. It's just around the corner! Also - Apple makes all their money on phones so the customer service department for their $30,000 Mac Pro's is a couple people in the basement. You could say the same for the Pocket 6K.
@Stanlyok3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing! I wonder if many people use this scanner for 35mm photo scanning.
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
We’ve been doing a lot of it. You have to merge 2 images together, that’s the downside. We’re processing ECN2 Vision 3 film and scanning it on this scanner. Looks rad!
@Stanlyok3 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo that's pretty cool! Do you stitch together multiple rolls into a large one for this to work? By the way it's also interesting to know, how Cintel would know where is the frame and not end up scanning in-between frames!
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
@@Stanlyok Yes, as we're in the testing phase of the process we don't have a ton of rolls at a time but the plan is to process client film in batches, hang to dry, then splice them all together, scan each roll independently, and then stitch them in post for delivery. Silbersalz35 has been doing a really great job of this in Germany. Check them out.
@Stanlyok3 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo thanks for the tip, saw their studio tour and might get a pack from them eventually, since we're also in Europe! But I would also love to watch a video about the process, especially since even now there are very few videos about Cintel. Did you get your camera cover???
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
@@Stanlyok Ha. Never got a cover - it's not a part they sell. My buddy will 3D print one if I give him a reason to :) Prolly should. We're in the middle of working on a video for the process. I'm being very careful how I put this out there. I may be being optimistic but I have a feeling a bunch of people are going to want to start sending their film in and we aren't set up for 30 rolls a day! The last test I did was with the Cinestill ECN it and it was totally fine. I'm working with QWD Lab here in the states for chems now. The results are really great! Keep your eyes out for a video on the process soon ish!
@chandershekhar91033 жыл бұрын
I hope also BlackMagic will introduce 8mm Scanner also. Hope So
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
Hard to tell really. They aren't making advancements with this scanner very quickly. Hope to see a lot from them!
@chandershekhar91033 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reply because the gap between Moviestuff retro scanner around 9000 $ and Wolverine Pro scanner is 600$ this is empty space available.
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
@@chandershekhar9103 I built a scanner years ago using a projector as the base. It just wasn't that good. What goes into a "real" frame by frame scanner is the definition of precision. Can it be done on a smaller scale for hobbyists, yes it can. The question is - can it be done for $5000, that's gotta be the lowest end for a prosumer scanner, I'm not sure it can. How many would you sell? 10-50 in the first year... maybe. The investment would be huge and there's no guarantee of sales. Also, to be truly relevant it HAS to scan negative stock! That introduces all sorts of issues for a cheap scanning system. I do have hope. Can't wait to see it happen!
@sbvcftvm62712 жыл бұрын
We just bought this for our film department in San Bernardino California. When we made our first attempt to scan it was upside down and backwards. 35mm negative, Any insight as to what we did wrong.
@petero10684 жыл бұрын
Can it scan a super35m scan from a arri 235, lt, or 535? Also, how’s the quality of the scan? Also, can it scan for 4K?
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it can scan any standard 35mm formats (2/3/4 Perf). It scans 35mm to UHD (4K).
@FlashCadallic4 ай бұрын
Have you added the 8mm gate? If so could you give a review on it?
@MidwestFilmCo4 ай бұрын
I have not. They aren't readily available from what I can tell.
@FlashCadallic4 ай бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo B&H has the 8mm gate for the BMD Cintel scanner. It is a 14 day special order. If you ever get the gate, please give a review on it. Thanks!
@sittingnow3 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming this is for scanning negs? You still have to have the film processed externally right?
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
We work with a lab for processing! If you have a project or wanna give us a try hit me up at justin@midwestfilmco.com.
@laszloujfalusi31522 жыл бұрын
Hello. We have also purchased a Cintel Scanner. We mostly digitize 16 mm films, but we also see a lot of 35 mm. We have experienced a problem with this. 2-3 minutes after starting the scanning process it drops down to 8 fps. Can you help me with what the problem might be? We are working on an Imac '19 i5 radeon pro 580 x 8gb 16 gb 2667 mhz DDR4. Keep up the good work and best regards!
@MidwestFilmCo2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Awesome to hear you're also scanning 35mm. I've seen a big uptick in 35mm scanning myself. The reason for the drop in frames is the write speed of your drive. I have big dumb drives for storage and they're slow. I have a 2TB solid state drive for scanning 35mm, otherwise the scan time is greatly increased. Go get a ScanDisk SSD. If it read/writes at least 450MB/s you're good.
@laszloujfalusi31522 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo Thanks for the quick reply. I will try it. :)
@SoccerAddictttt3 жыл бұрын
Would you guys ship your rental gear to other places? By this I mean other cities in the U.S.
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
That's the plan. As soon as we get set up. It's on the list of things to do, just haven't quite crossed that bridge yet!
@davida52962 жыл бұрын
what would be the cost of having someone else scan the film? It could always be billed back to the client instead of spending 32k plus
@MidwestFilmCo2 жыл бұрын
I scan film for other people - that's why I bought the scanner :)
@davida52962 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo got it.
@disicaray54954 жыл бұрын
is there any difference in digitally scanned negative footage vs traditional positive prints?
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
4K - 35mm scans & 2K - 16mm scans.
@MrErtonn4 жыл бұрын
Would you have full resolution short samples of film scanned straight from this scanner to download ?
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
I sure can. Shoot me an email - justin at midwestfilmco dot com
@rajatbasak97034 жыл бұрын
How much digital resolution you can get from 16 mm film? I heard that we can get 4K resolution from 35 mm film?
@wichitaarchive44774 жыл бұрын
The actual res of the overscan is 2304x1712. You have to take into consideration that a bunch of that res is throw away, the perfs, the frames above and below, etc... I've been doing a small scale in Resolve before I render the ProRes for delivery. It does a great job and the minimal amount of scaling certainly doesn't tear the image apart. I'm delivering 2K scans from 16mm and people at loving them!
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, replied on a new channel we posted last week for some archival we're working through. That Wichita Archive reply is indeed us! Thanks for watching! Lemme know if I can help with anything else.
@someonewithsomename3 жыл бұрын
See you are a film photographer also. Do you think it's possible to repurpose this for photo scanning also?
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
We have scanned some stills for sure. Mostly ECN2 stills. The biggest bummer is having to hand stitch two 4 perf frames to get your image. It's pretty time consuming. I know Silbersalz in Germany is doing it. I'm sure they have a script running that does it for them.
@someonewithsomename3 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo Wait, you know for sure that Silbersaltz use Cintel? wow, I never knew yeah, makins such a script is not that big a deal, if the allignent is perfect...is it though?
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
@@someonewithsomename Yes. Positive they use a Cintel. It's in all their videos. I has a nice stabilization which holds the image in the same spot. The issue is the bit of black on the top and bottom (which is the sides of the negative) that throws stitching software off.
@someonewithsomename3 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo Not a problem, just run all the scans through some video editing software as an image sequence beforehand. Would probably take 30 additional seconds and couple lines of scripting language for io automation. Have no idea how to automate complex stitching though. Anyways, thanks for the reply! I asked, because I legit thought about buying one as a business, but it's too expensive in this region and it would be impossible to compete with cheap but of good quality dedicated photography film labs, running Frontier and Noritsu.
@friedem0n20044 жыл бұрын
Hey I was just going to ask, a) are you offering this service to anyone?; b) what was the work bench that you put the scanner on? i.e. - where did you get it or do you have a link for it?
@MidwestFilmCo4 жыл бұрын
I am offering scanning as a service! Having a blast scanning film for people! It's just a tool chest from Home Depot. Super stout. I left the casters off for stability. Here's the link. www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-46-in-W-9-Drawer-Deep-Tool-Chest-Mobile-Workbench-in-Gloss-Black-with-Hardwood-Top-H46MWC9XD-TL/311086287
@friedem0n20044 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back! I will definitely keep you in mind the next time I shoot 16mm and need a scan!
@d0r4em0n5 жыл бұрын
Cintel vs golden eye which is better?
@MidwestFilmCo5 жыл бұрын
This is a kind of a loaded question... are you wanting to purchase a scanner or have some film scanned? As an owner, it doesn't get any easier than the Cintel. You plug the scanner into your existing computer, download the free version of Davinci Resolve, and start scanning 16mm & 35mm film at real-time speeds. If you're talking resolution then the Goldeneye (3 & 4) have the Cintel beat at 16mm and also offers an 8mm solution. I've actually compared the two images side by side - 16mm Cintel vs. GoldenEye III (I'll release that) and I fail to see a noticeable difference. Also, the GoldenEye is $100,000+ and the Cintel is $29,995. I'm happy to answer any questions I may have the answer to! Send me some film, compare for yourself! Thanks for watching!
@parp4 жыл бұрын
You messed up on the audio levels, Great vid do more Just a bit louder
@johncharles4406 Жыл бұрын
3 years later, was it worth the investment?
@MidwestFilmCo Жыл бұрын
Yep. Worth it.
@johncharles4406 Жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo Do you forsee them coming out with a new model in the next 24 months. It's several years old and quite the investment so just wondering if it would be wiser to invest in cheaper tools until the new release?
@MidwestFilmCo Жыл бұрын
@@johncharles4406 Very hard to tell. They've been making improvement over the years. Just put a brighter light source in for HDR. I'm curious if they'll drop a new version in the next 18mo with a new imagers all together. I bought this very affordably on eBay... right place, right time.
@knife-wieldingspidergod50592 жыл бұрын
For $30,000 the doors on that thing better close by themselves.
@MidwestFilmCo2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! They kinda do. Soft close.
@knife-wieldingspidergod50592 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFilmCo When are you guys will be able to process and scan Super 8 film? I don't want to send my films all the way to the west coast?
@scotennis6092 жыл бұрын
Will this Scan film with severe vinegar syndrome???
@asherdog92483 жыл бұрын
your flag needs to be retired.
@MidwestFilmCo3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this comment - already gone.