Better than paint? Using PanPastels on Terrain

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

READ ME: This video was just playing with these when I got them home from the store and barely scratched the surface of the product. Unfortunately I didn't go as far as I should have in this video. I should have tested these with a clear varnish right away. BE WARNED that applying a clear coat will darken the colours a LOT! It will still look great, more realistic actually, but will darken the colour a lot more than you'd probably expect. I will have a continuation video very soon where I explore this more.

[@tylerttinsley]

It may be worth trying artist fixative or a brighter primer color. I bought some of these to try a quick zenith dry brush I found they were a bit too loose to get a sharp edge highlight but You can get a sharper application on edges using a makeup sponge rather then a brush. I like your use of them here and look forward to more experiments!

[@Shadoweyed09]

Great to know, I was just going to note that I do appreciate this style, but with the wash brought up I wanted to see a quick "what happens" with just a streak of wash. Fantastic as always, looks like these are going on my list.

[@wonderboy2402]

Please also show closeups so we can check out texture. This is a interesting experiment within the hobby!

[@tjduprey]

The pan pastel company makes a sponge applicator that is highly superior to brushes or make up sponges. But the brush is fun.

[@RobertMeush]

I was just going to comment that I would like to know what a clear coat did to the colours :) I look forward to the follow up video!! Great video as always, love this format.

[@Kyrablue13]

I used these exclusively when doing Funko customs for adding shading and weathering over my acrylic paints. No need for constant layers of paint to add depth or high points- these over a flat base colour were enough. Nicely buildable too and are highly pigmented. Pan pastels are pretty special- I wouldn’t go back to others now knowing the capabilities of these. So awesome to see you having fun experimenting with them!

[@SkywalkerOne1977]

I prefer this kind of video, honestly. Feels more natural and you get to feel like you're working alongside someone.

[@mistac5050]

To the man who single handedly taught me how to paint ruined stonework for my 1/12 scale dioramas, not only will I thank you for that practically every time that I leave you a comment but I will most definitely try these out as they look incredible. Thanks for another home run of a tip.

[@OGRevanite]

@BlackMagicCraftOfficial use a ceramic plate to do the knock off instead of the paper towel and you can reserve you color on the plate instead of the paper towel absorbing to pigments. while still doing a decent job knocking the excess of comfortably. just a suggestion. Love your content btw and thanks for all you do for the tabletop community

[@rumblin_cynth_rampo374]

My partners niece got me on to these a few years ago. She is heavily in to doll customisation. Using pan pastels is very common in the doll customisation scene for body shading and highlighting. They also use water colour pencils for details. I found using the pastels and water colour pencils great for weathering vehicles and terrain work

[@joel6376]

Hobby weathering pencils are simply watercolor pencils with different names. Rust instead of raw sienna, etc

[@ghostsandcoffee126]

Those pan pastels in blues, purples, and white would have a really rad icey effect. I might need to try these!

[@felissundae335]

I learned about pastels because of the doll customisation community. Now I use them for almost all of my clay sculptures. Used correctly, they can create lovely, soft colour gradients and more realistic shading / lighting without the worry of streakiness or having to manually fade the colour out. I highly recommend more model artists to give them a try! :)

[@theharrower]

As a TO that does a lot of terrain for Age of Sigmar, this looks game changing. Thanks for sharing! Love this format as well.

[@InVerum]

Huh, VERY cool. Small request if you have time, would you be able to make a short showing what this looks like over FDM printed terrain? The big issue with drybrushing that is that you often see layer lines, I'm curious if this, with the powder, would reduce that look somewhat vs traditional paint. May just buy some and try it anyway but curious if you have some lying around to test.

[@PhoenyxAshe]

I think this might bring out the lines used alone... but recently I watched a video where someone used baby powder/corn starch mixed with UV resin to remove layer lines. Still required far more sanding than I was hoping to see, but he was also going for a very glossy look.

[@tobylegion6913]

Drybrushing, by its nature, always highlights edges. So the only way to remove the layer lines is by evening them out. Either melting, leveling primer, or surface melting, etc.

[@InVerum]

@@tobylegion6913 or just get your printer locked in. Any detailed terrain is almost impossible to sand effectively. Stippling with sponges is a great alternative but it could be interesting to see how this powder reacts.

[@alexzarle2700]

Sprayclay for FDM, thank me later, for resin printed minis MrSurfacer.

[@johnbiggscr]

@@alexzarle2700what is sprayclay?

[@djhollowman9567]

THIS.... This is the video I needed. Video of the year for me. I recently purchased what seems like a metric ton of table top terrain. I need to get it painted by the end of the year. While we have a few months left, I want to have a table full of terrain I can be very happy with and not just some random airbrush job. This product is exactly what I need and I am so very thankful that you did this video. I will use your link to pick up a bunch of these. I can't thank you enough.

[@ironocy496]

I like these test videos where you check out different products and crafting techniques. Pretty helpful in making an informed decision about purchases.

[@diegoe.hernandez7617]

I use pastels sometimes, not this particular brand but the ones that come in little bar forms. I scrape them with a knife and mix them with a couple drops of water and they get good coverage without needing to seal them after, I also mix them with slightly watered down acrilic paint to get more rich color and matte finish

[@markb8753]

I was wondering the same thing. I have some oil patels in the bar form that I have scraped off for different effects but have not "painted" with them like Jeremy is doing. Thanks for sharing your results with these

[@Vancelle]

​@@daveyjones5702your comment is what I was looking for. Thank you so much my dude!

[@DaCooyon]

The chalk pastels are not the same as the panpastels. I too have done the scrape technique and have for years. It was something taught to me by my grandfather back in the late 1970s. He did this for weathering for model railroading and I used it for fine scale modeling. The panpastels offer a similar result to dry brush with a lot less hassle. Can be used for weathering too. For sure not the same chalk pastels though. They are more akin to the oil pastels.

[@DaCooyon]

@@daveyjones5702 I've never had a need to waste my money on AK MIG products. I've been doing Fine Scale modeling since the late 1970s/early 1980s. All of these products now being used to weather didn't exist back then. There is zero reason for me to buy them as I know how to get same fantastic looks without them. I use powdered chalk pastels and IPA to get effects like seen with AK/MIG without issue. Weathering products are for those who either don't have time or the knowledge on how to create high end effects in a world were they didn't exist. There is a whole level of skill and techniques being lost because people opt for off the shelf solutions. A lot of these tips that surface, like the one being shown in this video, are just the old ways becoming new to people who haven't been around long enough to know. Take Dirty Down Rust effects. I can make the same effect by making a rusty soluting using steel wool. It looks like rusty metal because it is rusted metal. So while everyone buys overpriced off the shelf retail weathering and effects products, I'll save money and do things the old fashioned way.

[@HouseDM]

Definitely enjoyed the casual sit down chat Jeremy! Definitely going to check these out too, thanks!

[@RPArchiveOfficial]

Love these experimental videos by you man :) Great work!

[@jackbrownii]

The exploration format is really nice. Being able to see discoveries as they happen just feels good.

[@ratkreecher]

i can see bright oranges and yellows or even blues and greens working really really well for easy lighting effects, they just blend out so seamlessly

[@pietrayday9915]

One of the first things I thought of when he started dry-brushing the green brick was the usual lurid, bioluminescent greens, purples, blues, and mauves for traditional Underdark scenery: I think one could cook up a bunch of quick-and-dirty Underdark terrain pretty quickly with this stuff - just add mooshrooms and pools of resin "water"!

[@1glenngary]

Thanks for getting back to what you do best, showing us trick to make our builds look better!

[@blakemoore3858]

I love the sit, chill and experimenting. How in your past videos of you show your mistakes, you taught me a lot. Please keep it up.

[@johnlemon149]

That raw umber with that orange extra dark looked amazing together… I’m definitely get some of these!!!

[@deva3250]

Already ordered some from a Local store in Germany a few days ago. Gonna arrive this week. Really excited about it

[@jefferymartens6303]

Five minutes in and I am bloody fascinated. I love these kinds of videos where we get to see you learning in real-time! Can't wait for The Lost to ship, I could never pass up on polystyrene models made by a Winnipeger!

[@Ernzt8]

I love the effects you can achieve with this stuff. My wife uses PanPastels like there suppose to be used and are great (and expensive) gifts and if I ever use hers I will sleep on the couch for at least a year.

[@Blandco]

That red actually looks really nice!

[@CronosVids]

These experiment style videos are right up your alley. Since you always embrace your failures and setbacks and leave them in your regular videos, this doesn’t seem like much of a deviation. Do we need a finished piece when you’ve already demonstrated techniques and tips? No. Great video!

[@TheAuldGaffer]

Enjoying the hang out and chat as a break from the usual. Some stage makeup comes in very similar containers, so it's fun that you are using makeup brushes.

[@cherylrosbak4092]

I love enjoy these testing videos. I often wonder how various similar products compare, and seeing them together up close is great.

[@sweetbee52]

I am dying to try these! As a senior on a tight budget I’m saving my pennies. If you get a 10 pack kit some are almost as low as $5+. As long as your not super picky on the colors you want. But it would give you a good start.😁

[@och70]

I love the possibilities that these open up for you - looking forward to the future projects!

[@kendo5862]

Looks a bit of a game changer for big terrain … the speed and coverage on black was amazing

[@seamus6387]

Used pastels a lot in art classes (have an art degree). Those look sweet! No more crushing or scraping the chalk pastels. My main tips, get a sealer made for pastels, can they also make primers for pastels but that's more for drawing with the stick itself. So can probably just prime with any primer. As far as the brushes go, just use make up brushes or cotton swabs. Paint brushes won't work that well and the pastels can be kinda gritty. Make up brushes and such are also cheaper than artist's brushes. Other than that just play with it and don't he afraid to play with them. You can get some interesting effects because they are dry pigments and not paints. Just keep in mind they do blend really well so if you want to make layers use fixative especially if you want clashing colours to stay seperate.

[@lucasupright]

I like this format for new/experimental techniques. Gives us a chance to see the possibilities.

[@canuckchuck8836]

Those PanPastels have been used in the scale train hobby for quite some time. I bought a few containers from a local train/hobby/wargaming/rc store a number of years ago. They really do work well!

[@csgsmolders]

I was on the fence initially, the grey bricks were not winning me over; Then that green...fantastic I'm off to get some greens for my terrain builds. I am curious to see if a brushed on clear coat will smear the effect.

[@koriesheffer7120]

I love these types of videos. New tool, new product. You've barely scratched the surface with their potential, and I'd love to see a second video with updates. I.E. how they take varnishes, washes, oil paints etc... This is great!

[@JordanLeigh]

Yes. Totally love these hang out and chill videos just messing around with a new product and seeing how it goes.

[@Baronzemo44]

I've been using pastels for over 35 years. Have been doing military models for ever it seems. It was one of the tricks I learned from doing them.

[@isisnmagic1812]

Just looked on Amazon and there is loads of them in sets or singles, so very very interesting

[@lazygardens]

OH! I've used them for tinting black and white photo prints ... you can get great control. Also for enhancing frames or mats on artwork. Then you use a clear coat to keep the pastels on the work.

[@cinderheat]

Love to see a follow-up - more colours, how hardy they are without a varnish and how a varnish affects them - love it!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Very soon!

[@ericsmith1508]

I can't wait to try some of these out myself! And I love the regular videos where you have a specific project, but this was a very fun departure as well. I wouldn't mind seeing more videos where you just kind of hang out and try a new material or technique. It's good to see the experimentation process as it happens. It allows the viewers to learn along with you, see what works and what doesn't in real time.

[@RavenTheScythe]

The idea of a trial by fire video is great.

[@TwospotzArtAndCraft]

Ofcourse little moments like this is valuable, interesting and educational. Sharing this is such a great way to spread new paintways.😊

[@malazar]

These look super cool, and if anything, you could probably get away with being *really* light on loading your brush for those second layers - it looks like your highlights have such excellent coverage you barely need to touch the piece to get a fine highlight, but you can go heavier and blend the colours nicely. Definitely going to look at picking a couple of these things up.

[@joel6376]

Its possibly because they are mixing on the model. Putting on one layer, throwing down a quick varnish then a second layer might stop this from happening. However that is adding time to the process and they look pretty sweet as it is, particularly for the amount of effort involved.

[@michaels8940]

Yes this format works, kinda like a Crafting Mr. Rogers. Lol fascinating use of pastel powders, I can't wait to try it myself.

[@metajock]

This one was interesting. Looks like weathering would be done so easily with these. Big thanks!!!

[@rcrawford42]

Love the original books on the top shelf. I still have mine, bought back in the day with my own money.

[@willmendoza8498]

Very cool! Always fun to see how artist materials can be used in the hobby

[@ClarkyClark]

I love videos like these. Finding things to help the community is really nice, and i don't have a lot of time or money to experiment with. So this is really helpful for decision making.

[@eEdselEdsel]

I made my own egg tempera paints with powdered pigments years ago and I have plenty of the powder left. I'll try this when I have time. I'll matte varnish the pieces and try a couple of them with oil washes on top.

[@tjduprey]

I use these for repainting or modifying a number of types of figures not limited to terrain and warhammer figures. I also use them to customize Breyer horses for my grandkids. You can buy the base colors (red, blue, yellow, green, purple) then get black and white to tint and tone your hues. Cheaper and more efficient. There are pastel artists on youtube who demonstrate tinting and toning with pan pastel

[@rayslover8526]

That bright yellow could make a cool OSL. Amazon US has a few different 10 packs of various color pallets for like $40-45

[@Lageno]

I would love to see how these look with a wash both before and after sealing with varnish, just to see how it interacts with and without protection. Awesome video! I want to get one of these to try out now.

[@akillays]

Liked the vibe here, always good to see you excited about new stuff and keeping it simple

[@MombiePlaysBarbie]

Yes! PanPastels are wonderful! I use them for face-ups and they are a very versatile medium for many, many things.

[@MyFingerLakesRailwayLayout]

Good video! I've been using Pan Pastels for several years on my model railroad. For once, we are ahead of the wargamers in the weathering curve lol! One thing I really like to do: For train car wheels - Dry brush some oil paint. While still wet, stipple in dark umber Pan Pastels. Nice texture! Another tip: Flat coating tends to blow a lot of the Pastels off the model. I rattlecan a flat coat from a good distance above, kind of letting it mist down on the model. Take care - Bill.

[@travisd2895]

I like this style of video. Not over produced and straight to the point. Some things I'm curious to see is how shades, contrast, enamels, and oil washes interact with them with a clear coat and without a clear coat. One other thing, would have been nice to see a close up of the final product. I feel like they read a little different on video. Either way, another great video! Thank you!

[@johnbabovec391]

Excellent video. I used crushed pastel chalk back in the day on my train sets but had forgotten about. Ohhhhhhh the things I can do now. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME MY FRIEND.

[@magustorony]

My first thought even as I looked at the thumbnail was "is this the easiest OSL ever on terrain?". And with the green I immediately thought about how cool it would look with a green-flamed brazier/torch/candle. So I am really considering just grabbing a few colors of these for putting this thought in practice!

[@toddf4940]

I see so much potential with these. Thanks for sharing.

[@chrismoore8904]

Great video. I liked both the content as well as the "type" of video. Keep it up. Definately going to get those for bigger projects. Can't wait to see you use them on minis.

[@VikingFyre]

Sold! Honestly this is exactly what I’ve needed to get motivated and paint up all the dungeons and lasers stuff I have. Those powders are perfect for the dungeon tiles and terrain pieces. Just ordered some titanium white, mid tone neutral gray, and raw umber to get started.

[@horatio_]

Really enjoyed the format of this video and the continuation thank you BMC

[@MartyBucholz]

I do love this format its super cool to see the testing and discovery

[@dorilae]

This was my introduction to you, so like, yes, please make more like this. I definitely wanna see how those react to a wash, I have a tendency towards pretty grimy terrain because it's mostly for AoS and 40k. But also, I'm imagining ice walls with this stuff. like.. the easiest ice walls ever. you should make a video of ice walls and teach me how to do it! *bats eyes then laughs nervously, spins in a circle, and runs away cackling like a maniac*

[@MrArmour]

Lovely video, both insofar as it was a joy to see you so happy testing a new product and because it really made me interested in trying it myself.

[@Jim-yk9if]

These are great! Love to see how the white and other colors look! This type of sit-down video is fun.

[@olebrogger]

This is a great inspiration as always, already ordered 10 colors, cant wait to try it out!❤ Thank you for all your tips and tricks, you are spot on every time😃

[@ladyofsealand8]

Love PanPastels. They are made in the same town I went to school from middle throughout college!!

[@daniellogue8365]

Always enjoy chill hangout videos :)

[@lorrainemunoa791]

Oh hey, I already have these! Excellent! THey are such lovely rich pigment and I use them for doll customizing. I oughta try them on other things. Just remember guys- it's mineral dust. Wear your n95 or at minimum a basic dust mask to not inhale this stuff.

[@feb1839]

i was simply blown away by this! definately going to have to pick some up for myself. you always have such a talent for finding hidden gems of matierals and tools

[@bettsdn]

Game changer for painting lots of terrain.

[@golgothika]

Definitely a hit. I’m going to look into some of these. Thanks for sharing.

[@polestream]

LOVE THIS! I'm a sucker for experiments like this!

[@thomasbraden8242]

Outstanding review of this product. Looks so much less labor intensive. Love this style of video. Your opinion on products is greatly appreciated.

[@TurtleDudeProd]

I can see those greens making very good moss and algae effects!

[@GarouGames]

Love review videos of testing new products. Keep it up.

[@devslaven]

Neat idea! Makes terrain painting so much easier! Maybe record trying it on miniatures for science :)

[@Nosferatuklown]

I'm working on terrain for Star Wars Shatterpoint...making various planetscapes with dusty effects, worn ruined buildings, scorched earth, mystic stones...this seems exactly what I'd want to do for it! Thanks for covering this. I've been scraping off bits of pastel sticks with a butter knife for weathering pigments, but doing full stone with these would be awesome.

[@johnlemon149]

Another great video Jeremy!!! Keep up the great work.

[@DRN]

You would love the copper colors as well! I normaly use the sponges from the same company, that is made for the pan pastells

[@RuthlessMojo]

Pastels and Mica powders are great for drybrushing. I normally give the model a coat of clear matte varnish first. I wait for it to dry until it’s tacky and then use the pastels or mica powders. Finger nail powders work great too and their colours are amazing like gold, silver chrome or coloured metallics. You need to use a gloss black primer for the fingernail powders.

[@bradcraig6676]

I predict a run on artist pastels starting about now. I was blown away by the speed at which they apply, and no streaks! Def getting a few to try myself.

[@Met4life23]

This feels like something you can easily build up colors on with a "glazing" kind of technique. Very cool product can't wait to see what more videos use this and how the effect grows with experience with it.

[@XaviusNight]

I very much enjoyed this video - little materials testing bits like this are excellent for learning what to upgrade from "what I found at the dollar store" to something a bit higher quality.

[@LB_adventurer]

I really liked this video, very informative and fascinating to watch the applications and combinations. Looking forward to seeing a full build done using them. Maybe a rebuild of an older project for a side by side comparison?

[@1stleveldmgames798]

Masters of the Universe that's one way of describing it bring me back to my childhood

[@Sqalman]

Loved this format with you trying out new materials or tools! Hope I can fin PanPastels here in Sweden...

[@undeadamerican1107]

Great video. I love watching you just experiment with new techniques. I'd be really curious to see how these look with a wash over them, whether they reactivate and if a clear seal is needed.

[@demetrinight5924]

This looks like an interesting way to give a dusty look to ruins, dungeons, or even a modern city. I like how a little on the brush covered the entire wall section.

[@johnvanantwerp2791]

love the video format! Going to try out the PanPastels on some foam board terrain...

[@mszoomy]

Aww, you treated yourself, you deserve it and this is a fantastic idea.

[@Myhayv]

Those look great! I'd be interested in seeing a video delving deeper into how to use them. With clear coats, washes, etc. I get a feeling that doing an Egyptian style terrain set with a Sphinx and a Pyramid and painting it with these would be great.

[@markfrench8892]

Fantastic video. I can see this material for dioramas and my model railroad. Thanks for the demonstration.

[@kallisto9166]

I've found that concrete pigments are good value if you can get sample size amounts.

[@vitale6633]

Great Video-Will definitely give this a try. thanks for sharing.

[@gregoryburke6227]

I just starter doing my town terrain for my dark sun campaign and thinking these migjt be great for that dry desert look.

[@tiffanyfaye1583]

Cool video, I think using the greens as a mossy look would look pretty cool

[@mszoomy]

Ya know I have actual art pastels in my craft closet and I've often thought of grinding them up so see if they'd work like this but I had no idea that a company was actually making a product like this I need to try it