BLACKROCK CRASH - Do NOT Use Madame Lazul | Rise of Shadows | Hearthstone

In this weekly tavern brawl the League of Evil crashed Dalaran into Blackrock Mountain. Let's fight our way through!
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[@justanoldfriend9993]

This was a delightful example of how not all hero powers are created equally

[@Itjustdotbh]

Just an old friend -2 attack is wayyyy stronger than 1 mana deal 10(eventually) /s

[@born2hula325]

The problem is all these bosses reward aggression and punish slow careful trades... and Lazul is all about slow careful trades.

[@spidericktehdarkandstuff7417]

I mean She doesnt have a cabal shadow priest in her starting deck iirc Or anything else that interacts with low attack minions

[@mbgrom15]

@@spidericktehdarkandstuff7417 Forbidden words: Am I a joke to you?

[@spidericktehdarkandstuff7417]

@@mbgrom15 oh yeah And it works extra well with stargazing But still it's 1 card out of the whole thing and without stargazing using hero power + forbidden words only saves you 1 mana

[@enzimochi]

And here I thought they couldn’t have made priest worse

[@dajo6725]

I won with Madame Lazul on my first run. Maybe shes not the fastest, but still strong enough

[@hermiona1147]

@@dajo6725 Same first run won

[@BoxStudioExecutive]

@@hermiona1147 My first run with Lazul I lost on the first boss on like turn 4. bad draw on a bad deck

[@charlesxll7925]

@@BoxStudioExecutive same

[@agr0nianTV]

My dude Aerosounds got a 15:13 run with Lazul kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWTPqJadqK92a5o

[@cyreni9756]

Trump: "Let's farm for an Electron! That'll turn my deck into a miracle deck!" Omnitron Defense System: "lolno"

[@Scarthcaroth]

Omnotron defense system suiciding himself to deny Trump the addition of the Arcanotron to his deck was the highlight here.

[@kingbling7571]

He got the minion who do u mean idiot

[@satibel]

@@kingbling7571 the 2nd time. Spoiler: he loses the first run.

[@Epicepicnessess]

"I gave them some rope to not hang themselves." ~Trump, 2019

[@ITSMANATIME]

Omnitron Defense System commited honorable sudoku.

[@kingbling7571]

?

[@ITSMANATIME]

@@kingbling7571 Explanation: knowyourmeme.com/memes/commit-sudoku

[@LumosX]

I'd never imagined that Trump would be so excited about playing 6 mana 5/5s.

[@samuelemmert5136]

It's basically a 6 mana 5 5 hero power, that's insane

[@yerpderp6800]

"I gave them some rope to, like, not hang themselves. Er, I gave them, like, some slack on the- ah, whatever." Perfect.

[@Sephiko]

madame lose all

[@sombrego2260]

I had fun with her using a C'thun deck. But by default she's not the best for sure, still fun to play

[@ungorosnail4053]

2016:PRIEST IS TRASH PLZ BUFF BLIZZ (also purify lul) 2017:PRIEST IS BROKEN NERF RAZA PRIEST BLIZZ 2018: Priest was pretty balenced that year and had a decent amount of decks 2019:PRIEST IS TRASH PLZ BUFF BLIZZ (also Madam Luzul's deck and heropower is trash lul) Edit:Fixed grammar

[@yinnyonline]

you can just tell when someone is from reddit sad

[@0089321]

Funny how in wild priest is like a plague. I went a bit into standard a month or 2 ago and all I saw were lackey rogues and bomb warriors (at rank 20..). Do any priests exist in standard?

[@justjordan6560]

@@0089321 its pretty often ypu run into some..run high health minions...increase health..turn it into attack..smash face decks. Theres a new take every couple months

[@yinnyonline]

@@justjordan6560 typically theyre just called "divine spirit inner fire priest"

[@ZombraxSullivan]

Trump: god this hero power is trash!! also trump: never uses it in situations that are clearly perfect to use it in.

[@Begeru]

when was it ever useful over playing a card?

[@imnotanumber43]

@@Begeru at 8:10 he doesn't use it to preserve his 4/2 despite having the mana, costing him the game

[@rocketrelm1125]

@@Begeru Not picking stargazing in general, which makes it go from 'meh' to 'incredibly powerful'. Having a garenteed -4 atk to enemy minions each turn at no cost is pretty damn good, and would have rendered a lot of those games easier.

[@0ctaviaPony]

damn, sleeping on the power of stargazing. free hero power -4 attack every turn is actually really damn good at shutting down the bosses Well... besides garr.

[@TheSlick44y]

Banned From Free Ham Sandwich Day trash. Especially with comparisons to the others.

[@ZetaHaru]

I did that too, -4 attack for 0 mana every turn made it very easy

[@ryanc893]

I just stole his garr and used it against them

[@cobrax236]

True, Stargazing makes it the best heropower, especially when u play a tempo deck !!

[@dancemattdanceify]

Yep, that's what i got and i completed the run pretty easily. And that was the only run i did with priest (cause it sucks)

[@LimeyLassen]

Passing on Stargazing at the very beginning, you deserve to suffer ahaha

[@mongoosemon1]

Trump: Imagine losing in this brawl Me: .... I lost to the first boss.... Also Me: Lazul really does suck though

[@cobrax236]

Plays super bad ---> Blames the Hero Power and the cards :D Well played, Trump!

[@Athelox]

6 mana 5/5 is the new 4 mana 7/7? :D

[@jpanda79]

>Not making 1/1 dragon with elixir and then sleeping soul

[@rubon2916]

Lazul was the only one I lost with, but the second try went fine in 30 minutes. I found Toggwagle to be the best way to go below 20 min (if we don’t count Hand of Rafaam, which can make anyone stomp in 15 min when you pick it twice).

[@szapata9568]

I won with madame lazul with togwaggle's dice and only c'thuun cards. I'd say it's the only way to win it without taking too much of a gamble with the other options.

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

Same here actually. Dice and a mix of cthun and "mind over mine" or whatever the bundle is called. :) Was easier than the rogue for me.

[@szapata9568]

@@andreaskarlsson5251 funny enough, for me it took me 24 mins ish for priest and for rogue it took me 43 minutes ish. like dice like the dalaran heist was, it just OP when it works for you and that happens more than we think :)

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

@@szapata9568 Played rogue first. took me 36mins iirc. But didn't know about the speedrun thing then :P All other classes was in the twenties.

[@noidea2568]

-"not too much of a gamble" -picks togwaggle's dice I know what you mean, but I found that funny.

[@freddiesimmons1394]

I just played deathrattle, didnt have much trouble. However, it is full retard that they didn't even attempt to balance the hero powers.

[@theleprechaun2123]

Really, Nefarian built a 300 IQ into Omnotron making plays like that

[@SoZettaSlow]

She was my first win (and first run). But I got lucky on Robes.

[@waffles5960]

I beat it with Lazul first try, assumed she was good. Guess I was fooled by luck

[@Vikt0rian]

Naah, way, way too many has done it the first try, Trump is just unlucky (and occasionally arrogant)

[@JuanRojas-lx2nr]

trump:"who doesn't manage to finish this in under 40 min too" at the end of the first run 😂😂

[@Liverator]

I beat it with Priest in 29 minutes I had to use Robes of Gaudiness to beat it that quickly

[@suitwo]

I just went for the buff deathrattle style with this one and stealing their cards turn 1, first one I cracked 40 minutes with, ended up getting lucky more often than not by topdecking Shadoreaper Anduin to clear 7/8 taunts to win, forbidden shaping S-o-Nax which got insane value, but the real MVP was the 3 mana 3/3 patrons that the opponent could never clear.

[@Zakading]

On my first run with her I thought "Hm, yeah, this hero power and these cards are pretty bad, she must have some busted-ass treasures by default!" Turns out she has only one treasure and almost every use of it has the trade-off of making your deck worse. Thanks Blizzard.

[@user-vk3lz3hc3k]

Trump experiences true despair, aka playing Priest.

[@Vikt0rian]

Also Trump doesn't want -4 damage on the enemy team each turn for some reason...? I dunno man, I feel like Trump sometimes pick shit because he thinks "LOL THIS BAD" and but in reality, some of the things that he finds bad, becomes pretty good when it is cheaper. (: (Hence a lot of his past star ratings being way off)

[@Valkhyron]

Not only that but he's prioritizing not using it to play cards in situations where actually using it allows him to lock down the board. He developed the 4/2 against baron geddon instead of reducing the flame imp attack, trading the acolyte, and then forbidden wording the imp gang boys to prevent any imps. Like yeah, Lazul sucks, but she's gonna suck worse if you don't play her to create situations priests benefit from

[@mike2924]

I did it but got lucky with 2 cursed card rewards. 16 dmg first 2 turns 😂

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

Priest go face.

[@danshanksalot8320]

Same, that’s the only reason I won

[@dantekirenryu980]

Mike Anto same here with Cursed cards, but wow that is pretty fast o.o

[@user-wm4mf3cn9b]

Curses and coat that makes cards x2 cheapes are the best rewards for speedrun for any class. Also you can skip curse's animation by clicking it

[@stonersudowoodo7143]

That face when Madam Lazul is the deck you have your fastest time with

[@90ZAZ09]

I absolutely destroyed this run using priest. Got really lucky and built into cthun with every stage also got robes and managed to take control of the 3 mana 5/5 tron. The only one I had trouble with was hagitha, her deck took me 6 runs to complete everything else was first time

[@SheyD78]

Hmm, I need to keep the electron alive, so instead of trading my minions into other ones and buffing the electron with the power word shields, instead I'll buff my own so it can't die then keep playing stuff for the electron to trade into......... I don't think Trump really wanted the electron after all.

[@TasteTheWine.]

I don't post a lot but my first win was with priest and I won in under 40 mins without trying to speedrun. It wasn't a fluke because I kept playing with priest and I opted for C'thun buckets. I'm not trying to say Priest is the best, but it isn't bad either.

[@antman7673]

I played lazul as my first boss pick. Took 6 tries to win with her. And I thought I was bad. Her hero power is a nerf to the normal hero power. The deck has many bad dead draws. And she only has one treasure. Compared to rogue with 3 treasures and a better hero power.

[@bobjoe9428]

Anton Wilzewski absolutely the worst. I think Togwaggle was my fav

[@michaellatner975]

So when i used lazul i got a lot of cthun cards, but i also managed to get 2 amulets, and when i got to the "trons" boss, i stole 2, i stole toxitron, and lavitron or whatever the 4th one is, the 4th one worked really damn well since for some reason the ai never seems to understand his passive. They always killed themselves with it.

[@StarlightSG]

A deathrattle deck with the elixir that shuffles 2x of whatever you play is insane with Lazul, since you get infinite Sylvanas and Convincters

[@Xylarxcode]

Seems like C'thun is the only way to go for priest in this tavern brawl. That was the only way I could make a decent dent when I tried it. Still ended up being dangerously close numerous times. I'm not saying you can't do it if you don't get the Old God buckets, but man, they definitely didn't tweak this right. Lazul does not keep up with her peers, that's for sure.

[@aversal]

I beat my very first run under 40min with Lazul, but I think I was just pretty lucky. 3 C'thuns and a Robe of Gaudiness is a disgusting combo, after all

[@dragonchips]

I played deathrattle priest and won easily with reasonable treasures in about 33 minutes (2nd fastest of those I played). These runs are more about picking a bad standalone bucket first (C'thun, Miracle), not receiving the necessary support cards to make it work thereafter, and not utilizing the hero power effectively (by fighting for board with it). Now granted that run 2 had some egregiously bad buckets (which were weighted towards Trump's picks), but this felt like a pretty good what not to do as priest video more than anything.

[@reddo3024]

Prist went from being a beast in Un'Goro to being useless now

[@MrAdannor]

I got The Robes Of Overpoweredness when I tried Lazul, so that *was* pretty speed-runny. Only got one minion of worth from her stealing card, was just spamming C'tun buckets otherwise.

[@kingdavey90]

Trump with the spicy Hearthstone content!

[@gizel4376]

i did it pretty easilly with a trash deck, just need the hero power buff, that provide so much free control and good trade

[@Erlendnes100]

Got hand of rafaam and mind blast buckets for a 22min speedrun :)

[@Lunaraia]

stargazing with lazul isn't that bad as you can stack the - attack and with star gazing her hero power becomes free meaning you can always get some better trades

[@brodysdaddy]

Best time is with priest.... mind blast, shadow vision, hand of rafaam.....he just playing it differently, slowly...

[@Corrupted]

LAZULUL

[@jacobkodicovic4041]

Huh, I didn't think Lazul was that bad. On my first Dungeon Run with her I managed to win in 22 minutes, while I still can't seem to beat it with Hagatha

[@26Daisuke]

@Trump jokes on you my boy.... I beat the brawl With Lazul and had no problems with it

[@sergeanthearthstone]

Nah priest is insane if you make a cthun deck. Also have to be careful with the amulet so you dont mess up the deck. Hand of Rafaam and robes of gaudiness are really good to pick up. I went on a 21 minute priest run yesterday lol

[@oireal7261]

I.e Use the only consistently viable package, farm with the Amulet (in a speedrun event and with the least good deck) and use the 2 best passives in the event lol

[@haroldrafanan6971]

Robes is just insane, doesn't mean that C'thun is

[@dantekirenryu980]

I thought she was fun, because I recently won my run using her in 33 mins. I guess I was really lucky without knowing it. o.o

[@Blackwing10567]

Dante Slaton I won around 30 ish min with a c’thun deck

[@andrewh.4866]

43:43 Nice.

[@misha49ish]

Yup, the first boss beat me 3 times before I managed to beat him. Lazule is the worst

[@HappyGirlYaya]

Lazul can work fine. I did my first run with her and beat it in 25 minutes. Had Togwaggle's dice after round 1 to help though.

[@Snocone333]

lazul is so bad i got fatigued by the first fight lmao. Ive won as everyone else but refuse to play lazul again

[@Gakusangi]

I have yet to beat the first boss with Lazul, what the hell is the strategy with these cards?

[@yuenhai]

I got about 18 minutes on my first play through as Lazul without really trying to speedrun I don't understand why people say Lazul is terrible

[@onenof10]

Yes, in any large sample size you will find extremes. Try getting 10 complete runs with each of the four heroes, see if then you start to see trends in your experience. I think the biggest problem is the starting deck has a large amount of reactive cards and relatively bad inherent treasures. It’s easy to not be offered anything cheaper than 4 in your first buckets. If your opening hand is Forbidden words, Amulet of Domination and Unsleeping Soul you can find it literally unable to play on turns one and two against Geddon. Congratulations, you get to start playing cards at 10 hp, fail to curve out two more times and you can lose to a boss that never played a card. Warrior can just hero power and roll the dice and win with practically any bucket selections. Rogue has a really low curve and three great treasures to help cheese things, I’ve won multiple games without needing to hero power at all. Shaman’s hero power is awesome if you can stabilize and get ahead or cheat things out at all, and while duplitransmog is a bit tricky if you don’t know about some of the different boss mechanics, once you do you can easily find ways to, again, make any bucket selection playable. Priest’s starting deck and hero power are inherently crippling in comparison. You have to get lucky on treasures (notice the comments that say they were able to do it because of Robes of Gaudiness) or get a nice synergistic set of buckets and still need to get luck draws to progress with Priest. I had a Priest run against Garr where the first card that I could possibly play to interact with the board was on turn 3, when the board was an array of seven 0/2s looking to dish out 79 dmg. I’ve had another other run where I got cheap buff spells and the duplicating patron treasure. Was able to stabilize behind growing, ever duplicating minions. Until Nefarion pulls mass dispell and 2x dragonfire potions on me. TL,DR: Priest you have to get lucky to win, other classes you have to get unlucky to lose.

[@TheZackofSpades]

I honestly think trash Lazul is foreshadowing her betraying Rafaam to revive the Old Gods in the next expansion.

[@Vearru]

I played Madame Lazul as my first run and I had no problems, probably because my first treasure was stargazing

[@mbgrom15]

All those who complain Lazul sucks... Try the silence priest option... Broken af... Had the stargazing treasure to -2 twice for 0 mana... Almost never even had to use it 😂

[@Laireso]

my first run was 40 minutes and a few seconds. Second was 26 minutes and 27 seconds. :)

[@thegamev]

"and we play the slow game" - leathal turn 7

[@FantFrei]

i dont get it. got a speedrun with lazul, the double hero power for FREE and boom bots. just bad decision making i think

[@A1phaz0ne]

Uh, no. You got lucky lol, congrats. Doesn't mean she's good. She is by far, the worst of the heroes you could choose.

[@dawnblood8500]

I won as this hero today because I got electron Swarm and spells

[@mirohulsmann1811]

Question do u get something when u complete all of them

[@andreasivan133]

I think stargazing is really good with priest tho.. Not the best hero power that's for sure but with stargazing you can easily trade up and create a decent board to finally kill the boss after who knows how many turns

[@ueb4631]

Managed to do her in 25, got super Lucky and had double boom remote and death rattle totem for the last encounter, as close to cheating as it gets

[@EDoyl]

That's the Garr I remember

[@chomperplant2843]

Garr the worst boss to face with unless you can kill his golems faster in early game.

[@flargensnarf6500]

I used lazul on my first run and barely took any damage. Rag died while I was at full health. Then again I had 2 Rafam hands LuL

[@itsneight1260]

could it be that maybe Trump just chose HORRIBLE buckets... my Lazul deck wasn't NEARLY as bad... AND I beat it in 24 min. (not great, but not horrible)

[@Kujamon]

Did they even test this hero?

[@archdukecorndogelius5504]

The reason Baron Geddon has Molten Giant is because his deck was copy pasted from the old adventure. It was a lot better when he had 75 Health!

[@hyshade5132]

30 boss kills and still haven't cleared with Lazul yet, it's awful. Inversely, I've had perfect clears in the Dalaran Heist with priest so far.

[@nightjisoo337]

I did my first run with here and got all the speedrun rewards first try, guess I was lucky

[@KrivitskyM]

Normally "Soothe" is a great hero power, but here tempo and quick damage are key. Rather then stopping threats, you must present yours immediately. The bosses don't have a million HP and don't start at 3 mana, and you have OP treasures in your deck from the start, so... I find it hard to lose.

[@MrLuMax5]

Trump when he is trying to speedrun. Still looking for the value!

[@_DuxNet]

I'm a priest main and no joke I picked her first, didnt even look at the other classes, beat it first time and did it in a little over 40 minutes. Shes not great for speed but the run was fun. Stargazing OP OP.

[@freddiesimmons1394]

I dont understand why they cant even make it look like these things are supposed to be balanced...

[@scootaloodash1351]

8:13 should've used hero power for trading

[@ClownKenny]

Lazul was my first 8-boss win, but I got the Old God bucket every round

[@gothhenge]

You do have a hero power you know

[@voltz2095]

I won with her twice both with afterlife, and turns out star gazing is really good with Lazul, my best time is with her

[@lepkember6913]

Tbh, all the other classes took few tries, but I did it first run with Lazul. Checkmate Trump. ..ok I had a shitton of luck but still

[@heavyarms55]

Turns out 2 mana mind control is pretty good. Who knew?

[@johndice666]

Seriously I did the run in under 30 mins w/this one.

[@hammerofdawn1158]

lazul is the only one with whom i beat rag 1st try. all deathrattle and double deathrattle. 5 undatakas

[@airkami]

Last two rounds I played her, lost on first boss, then on ragnaros I stole his first 3 minions and annihilated him.

[@ACMFORALL]

Blizzard apparently hates priest.

[@captainmurphy4949]

I won with lazul first run with old gods

[@pablomena4353]

Captain Murphy same

[@rubysauce]

Got an easy 25 minutes first try with her.. That card that you steal an enemy minion is bonkers..

[@marcopolome6393]

She is the only hero I have won with because I was able to get a cthun bucket every time.

[@CuriousMoth]

Speed run mode! 45 minute video.

[@grantg3876]

She was my fastest run. Extra arms op

[@dragonlogos1]

So I went star-gazing and got priest dk and then went a second star-gazing with her and did fine nothing crazy the only person that was even close to beating me was Garr

[@verylongman5447]

My first time through the event i defeated it with lazul in under 18 hours so yeah she kinda sucks

[@Selenkate]

I just stole a molten giant from an early boss, and the rest of the run was relatively easy as long as I didn't make bad plays

[@UltraDumbass1782]

What do you mean this deck is bad? 'Infinite' 6 mana 5/5s. That is value!

[@RheaStorm]

Lazul is still my fastest win at 22 minutes