Candle Making WET SPOTS (Jar Adhesion) | Big Deal? What Can You Do?

[@cathyscandlecreations7406]

I belive most of us that make candles, no matter the wax type, we are way harder on ourselves than customers ever could be! Bravo again on a wonderful, educational informative video Wade. Thank you. I'll be sharing with my group!🤩💜

[@BlackTieBarn]

Thanks Cathy! Go for it. :)

[@1fitmama]

Thank you! Being a bit OCD, I kill myself and sometimes the scent of my candles trying to make my candle look perfect. I just have to give myself permission to let it go, I guess. It's so difficult though. I'll usually try to cover the worst areas with my label, but I always still feel awful about my imperfect candles and feel guilty charging what they should be worth

[@billybailey3132]

30 seconds of this video reduced my stress levels by at least 3%, so, Wade, I thank you.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Lol. Glad to hear that!

[@calcul8tedhealing519]

I actually switched to metal tins instead of glass just to avoid this issue. So frustrating. I have tried everything to avoid it. I know it's not a "problem" it just doesn't look professional in my opinion. Thanks Wade 🙏🥰

[@BlackTieBarn]

💯 thanks A

[@amandag5072]

Have a look at all the jar candles that professionals make... all of them have wet spots. It's a natural behaviour of wax, you can't do anything to stop them,

[@BlackTieBarn]

@@amandag5072 ☝

[@lonelycreamy]

I got the same problems. I tried many times to make my candles perfect because I wanted to give away to my friends. Now I wont choose glasses anymore. 😂😂😂

[@katelillo1932]

I’m not a candle maker but I am a long time candle burner. I can attest to the fact that a non-maker does not care about wet spots. Until I started to learn about candle making, I didn’t know they were even significant enough to have a name. I thought wet spots were just a jar candle thing. And I suppose, they kind of are.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Lol. Exactly Kate! Thanks for sharing. :)

[@Queenb983]

I love watching your evolution in these videos. Increasing the graphics/animations & your personality seems to come out more. Your knowledge has been invaluable to me & your sense of humor helps TONS when learning. It also helps those of us that use Candle making as therapy. Thank you! 🙏

[@BlackTieBarn]

thank you Gina. Yah, I would do more and more with editing, graphics, etc. But... its either very time consuming or expensive. I already spend WAY too much time on this channel. LOL

[@Queenb983]

@@BlackTieBarn I & many others are so grateful for what you're able to give! I'm sure it's not lucrative, but very generous! I just recommended the jar adhesion video to someone in a FB Candle making group. 😊 Eventually hoping to work up the confidence to send my candles in for a subscriber review. 😬 Some day! Thanks again!! 💗

[@jessicawhite2619]

I did a complete 180 and switched from igi 4627 to gb 464. I no longer have wet spots (thank goodness), and honestly seeing rough tops and a little bit of frosting over time brings me peace vs seeing a Dalmatian spotted adhesion issue that persists no matter what I do. I do love the 4627 for the HT, it was a good experience over the years, but I am happy and at peace with the 464. I enjoy the challenge of wicking and finding fragrance oils that perform well in the soy wax…now that I’ve used 4627 for many years I have a better idea of what the experience of a really great HT is like and can try my best to replicate the throw with the proper oils and wicks. It will never be as strong, potent, or raw as 4627…but in a way that’s also nice. I find a good HT from 464 even smells different and has a different ambience than the 4627. I found the 4627 to be almost suffocating at times with the HT (I know perhaps no one has said this ever, but it applies to to my taste). Regardless, there hasn’t been a wet spot to be seen..and that is enough for me to love the 464…even if it is a challenging wax to work with on other levels…it’s worth the effort to me.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Haha yah 4627 can be intense. Lol. Glad you found your go to solution. I've had mixed results with 464 and wet spots (depends on jar).

[@lisawalker7923]

Ok I'll try that

[@diegooland1261]

Thank you for this video. The wet spot issue is driving my business partner and I nuts!!! This is our first year working with glass jars. I guess we'll find out just how much or little customers care about jar adhesion. We sure appreciate you talking about this.

[@greekozygirl599]

This is unbelievably helpful & oh you're so right, when I was just collecting candles, I never once looked at the jar adhesion, all I was worried about was the color, the aroma & whether or not the smell matched the name of the pure essential oil on the jar. Now... 🙄 omg I'm like noooooo😭

[@BlackTieBarn]

Lol. Glad it was helpful!

[@DarkusZarvix]

I had this wet spot issue with layered candles for an order just last night! I'm in the northeast, US and it is getting cooler now. So, I need to pour my layers sooner because everything is hardening and shrinking quicker now. I do find that it helps prevent that leaking, if wet spots aren't a concern but leaking of colors between layers is, to very lightly re-melt the surface of the layer before pouring the next layer. Just enough to expand that top layer of wax a bit to prevent leaking to the layer below and not enough to need to wait very long before the layer sets back up enough to pour. Having the same color leaking between the wax and jar is better than having an entirely different color do that. It's more forgivable, since the wax might pull away from the surface again anyway. Layered candles are my #1 seller, so I've had a fair share of frustrations. After dealing with frosting constantly when using pure soy wax like I did for a while, I swapped to a wax that has mostly soy but some paraffin too and wet spots are actually so minor in comparison that I barely care about them anymore. XD

[@BlackTieBarn]

yes, absolutely. This is great feedback and spot on. Layered candles are more of a pain when it comes to wet spots. Pour temp is critical and they just require more creativity/attention to detail. lol

[@MisiDarkLilies]

I really appreciate videos like this. 💙 I've been making candles for years and not taking the jump into small business because the imperfections from wet spots and how the surface looks after burning drives me crazy. I also considered just using a tin or opaque jar as mentioned, but I still couldn't get over the hurdle of a rough texture top that is left over from burning. Happy to see you have your new warehouse and storefront in the works! That is super exciting, looking forward to seeing the progress! Congratulations! 🎉

[@BlackTieBarn]

Thanks Misi. I appreciate that

[@1979rendy]

I liked this guy enough to watch it all the way through

[@greekozygirl599]

OMG you read my mind😅 I needed this video soooo much, thank you Wade!!

[@BlackTieBarn]

You're so welcome!

[@aaronshearth3671]

Great video! This comes up every day on the Facebook groups.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Yes it does! Feel free to share it if you want. :)

[@IrishQ76]

I've come to become one with wetstops. If they come they come, if they don't, I do a huge happy dance 🤣🤣

[@BlackTieBarn]

we are the same. lol

[@DawnClark-tb2up]

I like this version of the reviews sometimes it’s hard to find the part 2 I have not tried of these scents yet. I am new and just getting my start.

[@candlewhisperer]

Hello Wade Thomas I am enjoying your tutorials. I am so glad that you are increasing your content daily!!! Wet spots are one of many pet peeves when making candles!!! One time I used a heat gun on a wet spot and it looked better for that day. The next day the wet spot was back!!! Thank you for the suggestions to try to prevent the wet spots. I will definitely try them:)!!! Thank you so much!!! Keep them coming!!!

[@BlackTieBarn]

❤️👍

[@ruslundbiscoe]

Good afternoon, I'm a very new to candle making and I appreciate all the information you have given, I am going with a coco apricot wax and a matte tin, I have not found a glass vessel that calls to me yet. Thank you and keep up the fabulous work.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Thanks so much!

[@WickandStoneCandles]

I've never had a customer complain but I do notice the ones with the worst wet spots are the last ones to sell in my shop, if they sell at all.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Yep! Lol

[@nancyperez4246]

Thank you for the very informative discussion on wet spots.

[@BlackTieBarn]

👍

[@IrishQ76]

Haven't had a problem with my layered candles yet with wetspots luckily.

[@BlackTieBarn]

thats great. Sounds like you have a good combination of wax type and your pourtemp/process!

[@IrishQ76]

@@BlackTieBarn that or I don't let sit long enough for wet spots to develop. I do all my layered candles in a or two. No waiting for those precious gems sense they the layers are different fragrances also but complement each other and when joined create another wonderful fragrance.

[@esetedor5081]

I am so grateful for all your videos! this has been bugging me and i am just about to launvh my candle business. Thank you.

[@BlackTieBarn]

❤️

[@_xoe]

Such a great video , gave me so much knowledge and ease 😅

[@BlackTieBarn]

Glad you liked it!!

[@MariaMedina-lj4kt]

I'm new to this and of course it happened to me and I thought I was doing something wrong, so thank you very much for the clarification.

[@spiritualwingsllc7538]

Actually the laying look over mapping I think is a cool effect I like the bleeding affect in my candles.

[@BlackTieBarn]

❤️

[@MexieMex]

You can get hydrophobic sprays that repel water. Is there such a thing as wax-phobic spray? If you can coat the inside of jars with something that is going to repel wax equally, that should eliminate the issue.

[@karliehu7115]

Thank you so much for the video, it is very well made and I learned a lot. Keep up he good work!

[@blueeye681]

A Big Thank You.

[@BlackTieBarn]

You're welcome!

[@aprilperez5946]

I had some anxiety just before watching this video because a few of my jars had some wet spots, thank you for the information. I used to remelt my candle jar(s) due to the adhesion.. I will no longer have to do that!🙏🏿🙏🏿🥹

[@BlackTieBarn]

❤️👍

[@mindyourself167]

This is by far the best content for candle-making experts!❤️‍🔥 Your videos are always incredibly detailed, well-delivered, and informative, with a unique style that really stands out. I recently had issues with 444 soy wax, like frosting and jar wet spots, which affected adhesion. Your tips have been invaluable. I was wondering, do you think using Vybar 260 at 1% with a softer wax like 464 Golden Brand will help reduce these problems? Thanks so much for all the amazing advice you share! Keep up the fantastic work!

[@nancykelly9712]

Bahahaha omg Wade, you have the gift of the gab!! That comment about your wife cracked me right up!! 😂 Yes I'm in learn mode so I'm still at the 'who cares' stage but yes I can see that being really annoying for some makers! Good advice, thanks for taking the time to explain, very helpful!!

[@BlackTieBarn]

Lol. Thanks Nancy!

[@BusinessSupport-b8i]

This is very calming for me.. I almost cried thinking I ruined up my candles. Thank you.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Of course!

[@NaturalMackie]

Wow I just used to use candles only in blackouts never even bought ones with scents unless they were gifts. I only realized wet spots were a thing when I started watching these videos. If lights up, I’m good.

[@BlackTieBarn]

exactly. Lol

[@marikiemarie7622]

I've noticed that thiner containers jars gave given me less wet spots or none at all. And wide mouth jars and flat bases. No curves or dips.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Yah it really depends on yhe glass for sure

[@leishaskywalker]

thank you for the always helpful info! wondering if you've ever used & recommend stearic acid?

[@BlackTieBarn]

I use vybar instead which basically is the alternative specifically made for candles. But very rarely haven't I needed to

[@leishaskywalker]

@@BlackTieBarn thank you!

[@sylvaingouletmeditation1687]

Hi Wade, i found a way to deal with the wetspots, i just take my heat gun and i heat the wetspot and it goes away and do not com back.

[@BlackTieBarn]

yah, this is a common thing people try. Glad its working for you with your wax, for most unfortunately it doesn't work. It only helps temporarily. Ive had it help for a while in my location. But as soon as it get shipped to someone or moved to another spot, they tend to come back. But its a good temp fix or potential long term fix for some waxes. For me.... I dont have the time to heat gun every jar though, especially when customers could care less. Lol. But, yes i think many people try this. :)

[@MisterWhatWhat]

As a customer I would notice wet spots on my Yankee Candles & they never bothered me (looking at one now). As a hobbyist, however, they drive me up the wall because to me it looks unprofessional and ungodly awful lol. Thanks for this video! From personal trial and error I noticed that I do not have this problem if I pour at 120 degrees in a room with an ambient temperature of 75.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Awesome!

[@mohamedaflal]

Thank u for the information sir, I do get lot of wet spot 😅

[@jolenetime]

Hey Wade, thanks so much for all the info! I tried my first pour the other day with a beeswax and coconut blend, and it came out well, except I have a ring composed of a thin film of wax around the top of every candle right at the surface of the pour. What would you recommend for this? Thank you, x Jolene

[@greekozygirl599]

Wade: "I'm gonna need a minute" 🤣🤣🤣had me cackling😅

[@BlackTieBarn]

😂

[@manuelvillamizarcalixto1556]

Hi ! I mix coconut wax with bee wax.. and I have wet puts. I try with the heat gun but it’s so annoying to disappear the wet pots… May I use other mix of wax ?

[@FORTEPodcast]

Your channel is legendary! Thank you, Wade! How warm do you pre-heat your jars before you pour your melted wax in the containers?

[@BlackTieBarn]

Thanks sir. I actually don't. It isn't really a scalable solution and it has minimal long term results anyways, so I don't. I don't want them freezing cold, but room temp is just fine

[@melindaduncan3073]

I have a question I’m sure you could help me out with. Which wax is close or similar to joy wax from nature’s garden? Thank you!!!

[@BlackTieBarn]

Problend 600 from flaming candle. :)

[@1fitmama]

Do you feel coating jar sides with a bit of wax you intend to fill glass vessel with and letting that cool before you add the volume of wax would help with adhesion? Just a thought. Haven't tried yet, but thought just thought about it and wanted to get your opinion

[@Buttercurls]

Hi thank you for sharing because I have been experiencing wet spots on some of my candles as a new candle Maker. I have another concerning question. I made four candles last night and noticed one of the jars had a crack near the bottom side of the jar. I didn't noticed it until the wax turned solid. I poured each candle around 161 degree. I'm using soy/ coconut wax. Is there anything I can do to save that candle? It came out pretty good but I'm concerned that may be a safety issue. I'm not sure if it was cracked before I poured or not. I'm using 8 ounce jelly jars. I would appreciate any advice please.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Are you saying the wax is cracked or the jar? If it's the jar.... then no, I wouldn't use it. Melt it down and pour into another jar for yourself if you want. But I wouldn't recommend using a cracked jar

[@Buttercurls]

@@BlackTieBarn Yes I believe its a hairline crack in the jar. Should I scoop the wax out of the jar and melt it in a melting pot and then pour in new candle jar? Also could you recommend proper wick size for 8 ounce jelly jar. So far I've tried CD 8 wick and I experienced high flame) dancing around. Then I tried 6 1/2 inch wick . Great melt pool/burned slow . . Took 2 hours to achieve full melt pool (moderate hot throw used 8% Fragrance load) but still had some dancing and high flame. I use soy coconut 454 wax. The supplier says to wick up with that wax but it doesn't work well when I do that. I used size medium wooden wick, extremely high flame / fast melt pool under 30 minutes , that size wick was recommended by the supplier. Epic fail idk it's frustrating. Should I wick up from the 6 1/2 inch wick to the 7 inch wick or wick down to 6 inch? So sorry for this long comment

[@lenatorres4734]

I know the feeling of those wet spots in my candle jar. It drives me nuts. It does seem to help when I heat the jars in the oven. Thank you Wade for all your great advice.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Np Lena!

[@teresafransen8180]

I love using ec26 because it never has wet spots. However the harmony blend igi4630 is giving more consistent HT but more wet spots. I’m so confused which way wax I want to perfect 😢I’m thinking of getting a frosted jar to solve the issue

[@claireelvin-smith5139]

Please can I ask, I made candles for the 1st time yesterday and I thought I'd have enough melted wax for 2x large jar candles. I was using a combo of beeswax & soy wax and I think some of the soy evaporated because I tried to melt them together. Next time I will melt the beeswax first, then add the soy. I was left with 2x jars that are not as full as I would like. If I mix more of the same wax and fragrance can I top up the jars with more melted wax? Or will horrible things happen?

[@jillschlegel2576]

I have huge areas that don’t adhere about half of everything I pour. I’ve heated jars up ahead and tried varying temps to pour and it’s still happening. I’m wondering if it’s the wax and it having a lot of air in it. Switched suppliers, same wax still issues. Switched to a supposed equivalent wax and not better or worse. Can I fix them after poured. They aren’t small areas so it’s really noticeable and not appealing at all.

[@Sableandsagelondon]

Hi I really need your help with this thing I have on my candle. So it’s pink dots and few yellow dots mostly at the bottom side of the container candle and they were fine for couple of days but later these spots started coming up and there is nothing I can do. Please help

[@Draconamous]

Even when I make real ready to go candles they don't really bug me. I figure they just fill in and go away as they burn.

[@BlackTieBarn]

For aure!

[@BlackTieBarn]

For aure!

[@janinesaffioti5345]

You are very knowledgeable! Thank you for this information, although all the talking is so not relevant! Does it effect? NOPE why does it happen? TEMPERATURE Thats all! Lol I'm sorry I'm just directly to the point! THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION GOD BLESS

[@gailstringer2074]

What about air bubbles

[@marcijo123]

Stores that I’ve boughten candles at never have wet spots

[@tradergirl7067]

ya hate those!! I usually wait to put my labels on after the wet spot shows up so I can cover them up. but thats not always the way it goes.. and sometimes I can make like 10 candles from the same batch with same temp and some get wet spots and some dont.. go figure. BTW. im not "liying" 😄🤭🤭...

[@BlackTieBarn]

Yah, I noticed a few errors..... was already uploaded and too late to correct. LOL. Well I could have but didn't want to delay it a day. Lol

[@Straingelove]

It’s frustrating, I tried to heat gun them and it worked but came back 😅, I still love the glow of a clear glass so small price to pay. The damn perfectionist in me needs to learn to let go

[@BlackTieBarn]

Yep. Took me years to just accept it. O don't like it, but sometimes.... nothing you can do. Lol

[@Straingelove]

@@BlackTieBarn exactly!!

[@naobicook2710]

Thank you for this….. i be so stressed 😅😂

[@millioneaessentials9320]

Hello. Is there a way that I can email you?

[@BlackTieBarn]

Yep, through my channel about page.

[@bobbie-jenehenderson7824]

There's just some fancy vessels I really want to use but it sadly may not be meant to be. :(

[@brendabailey9418]

Just recently I had this happen.

[@BlackTieBarn]

👍

[@kman8271]

I bet your wife loves the smell of the house! Lucky girl. Hoping my husband loves it when I start…. TODAY! Wish me luck 😅

[@BlackTieBarn]

yes she does but she isn't a good judge. HORRIBLE sense of smell. Lol

[@dearmeecha1310]

Just had this happen today. My husband was looking at my testers and said “what’s that” and I told him the whole ordeal. Haha!

[@irmakonecny1154]

I've actually seen people make videos complaining about wet-spots, they think that it's a huge air bubble and the complaint is that they are being ripped off, like they aren't getting what they paid for

[@lisaguzzardi]

You crack me up

[@BlackTieBarn]

Lol

[@firstplaceloser9245]

How do you fix it though lol bc my wife will never just accept people are okay with it

[@lisawalker7923]

Go information

[@katherinenieves9658]

🙂

[@BlackTieBarn]

❤️

[@abeirheib4871]

I have a solution Wade just use Tins and not glass jars😂

[@BlackTieBarn]

boom. lol

[@SJ-tx5go]

Now you tell me 😂 after making 60 candles in jar so I could charge my customers less.

[@RoseKindred]

Outside of the technical/maker standpoints, I think the best thing is just all of us informing people about this. It can be standard with waxes, but like "only soy is healthy," there is floating misinformation. As long as the whole candle is not filled with bubbles (like some mass-produced ones) I do not mind, and I have OCD, so that is saying a lot.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Even the bubbles ones are normal. It's just a different kind of wax. It's a classic wax that many customers still like. I don't mind them either. I've made them before. :)

[@RoseKindred]

@@BlackTieBarn Oh I get that it is the wax. I worded it badly. I meant they used to be solid waxes (or seemingly) and then changed. I noticed the bubbles filling containers everywhere. Going from one type to the other abruptly threw me off causing me to avoid it. It would be like you changing your whole line to a cloudy gel only, if that makes sense.

[@AtomicElf1]

Probobly

[@kaykristine2584]

You’re either new or lying 😂

[@BlackTieBarn]

🤣🤣

[@nsiimentaphillipah5719]

I’m a beginner and this makes everything better. Knowing I’m not alone and other people have faced the same problem. These spots are killing me 🥲

[@dianafloros8202]

Hi Wade I am trying to for m my Llc and I am so confused between LegalZoom vs Incfile please help.

[@BlackTieBarn]

Hey Diana. I've never used incfile. Only legal zoom so I'm not sure