Levels Of Kit: Ruck Sack

Part three in this short series serving as a primer for folks signed up to ‪@oriontraininggroupllc2782‬ Small Unit Maneuver or Small Unit Sustainment classes. As well as providing general information to the greater public regardless of taking a class with OTG.
In the video we go over the ruck sack, as it pertains to setting up your Sustainment Load and Assault Load. This video along with an in-depth article is up on the Patreon as well.
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[@woodsghost9088]

Way to tell it like it is!! "You are looking for confirmation bias or you don't want to do any research." So honest. So on target. Love it man.

[@woodsghost9088]

You can identify as "hydrated" all you want, but you will still die. KILLING IT! 😂

[@Featherless1]

He did not once in all three preparedness videos mention face paint

[@frankthetank6558]

I’m a huge fan of the msr hyper flow water filer because it has a 5micron pre filter and I can wip it out and plug strait into my camelback drinking tube to fill my main reserves without taking my pack off and fill in 2-3min… it’s another thing, but is mandatory for my 2+ day packs and group cooking

[@DeltaZuluActual]

I’m a huge fan of the Coyote Tactical Solutions, quick detach hose kit. I can swap out the big mouth nalgene top with the hose and I’ll have access to my water at all times. Combined with my mini sawyer filter and all I have to do is refill my nalgene with water collected from stream, creeks, rivers etc.

[@KineticConstant]

Had the pleasure of attending two MTS classes and Blake is a gem. Very patient instructor and asked me questions about what I specifically wanted to learn or work on improving. Would happily attend another course instructed by him. P.S. Blake does not skip leg day.

[@WearilyMistaken]

One does not simply skip leg day. 👌🏼

[@justsomeguyontheinternet5331]

Me at first: man thats a lot of water Me after looking at TX weather starting next week: man thats not nearly enough water

[@mikerilling6515]

I know what you mean I’m in South Texas and I’ve got 4 quarts of water distributed around my pack at all times simply because we can easily hit 100° - 105° any day May through September with our famous 80% humidity

[@davidbrunner4413]

My favorite ruck is a bit of a Frankenstein, I love the TT MALICE frame with their low profile super straps, and their regular super belt with the main bag from my issued FILBE pack. You ask me, God tier. The best balance I've found between the 3 Cs, Comfort, Capability, and Cost

[@joshrichards8399]

This is the 3rd video I've watched from this channel today after discovering it after getting off work. This is definitely high-quality premium Grade-A content Subbed

[@WearilyMistaken]

Indeed. This is top of the line ultimate absolute top-notch super content!

[@thomashoward5702]

These videos are freaking fantastic, keep up the good work!

[@rainbowhiker]

That's a great pack. Lots of toughness built in and will carry everything needed. Have you done your loaded Assault Pack 3 Klic run recently? Great as a fitness gage.

[@stevo4535]

I just got my first ever ruck, great timing!

[@threelinesurvival]

Best video and advice I have seen for packing out your ruck. No BS, no gizmos and gadgets, just common sense. And your focus on water...spot on! Great video!!

[@nprwikeepa6082]

I'm really watching his whole series. Love your insight!

[@mixmix1487]

Great video. As always, straight to the point and coming from a point of view of someone that has plenty of practical app.

[@EliteDiesel]

Man gaining subs like I'm gaining ticks in the woods...too fast, but I'm here for it! Keep it up😁

[@ShepherdOfTheSilkies]

I like my mystery ranch Marshall, it’s lighter, and less durable, but I use a rain cover and scrim so thats actually a bonus. I’m big on compartmentalization so that’s why I like it. It doesn’t scale down well and it won’t work for everyone. I also pack my water bladder with a towel for insulation and to catch water condensation to use to cool myself or refil my dirty water bag. I also have multiple scalable levels of filtration that allow me to have better than tap water levels of purity. Have a night time 2x20L(one 20L dirty and 1 20L clean bag) gravity filter system to make sure water is topped off. But for quick filtering I have a platypus squeeze filter that’s got 3L capacity and takes me 50 seconds to filter the 3L. My camel back has sawyer a in-line and UV light system on it which more than keeps my water safe.

[@sakibombactual]

Funny seeing the difference in priorities between conventional Army Infantry mentorship and special operations mentorship. It’s always consistent with you guys whether it’s MARSOC, Force Recon or Army SF. Majority of the weight is going to be water. Emphasis on finding a nice pack. Army SF sniper told me his team’s food plan was one jet boil to share and a 5lb bag of rice, beans, olive oil and salt/seasoning to save space. Shared an E tool and a sleep system within 3 man teams to save space for a tarp to conceal heat signature from overhead.

[@blackhawk65589]

I'm not sure why people complained about the amount of socks. Your feet needed babied or you ain't doing much moving. Just in a few hour hike (either summer or winter) my socks are soaking wet, even with real wool! I would like to add maybe goldbond instead of regular baby/foot powder as well as mole skin. Good recommendation on merino wool.

[@BattleofTrenton]

Good job brother finally some one talking about hygiene

[@Blueknight1960]

Just out of curiosity, what missions are you going on? Who's giving you these missions? Enquiring minds want to know.

[@BoomBoomChicky]

A small note for those who are trying to get more hydration into the Malice V2 ruck but can't find or don't have the SADF 2 Quart bottles- those same upper pouches will fit two of the 1L nalgene bottles very snugly.

[@alphatyrant8677]

There’s also the US forest service 1L jugs as well. Only issue with them is the kids can be fragile if you drop them too hard while they’re full. But they’re rectangular, light, and pack super well. And cheap to get as well.

[@KingRune]

Damn, foot powder packed with the socks..... pure genius

[@dwaynestewart411]

Well I have to say I learned a bit in this video. I enjoyed it very much and I have subscribed to your channel so I may learn more. Thank you for the insight.. Dwayne

[@clintwestwood1895]

Thanks for the tips bro, I am going to snag one of those dromedary bags.

[@11JohnTi]

Love the TT Malice ruck. The old Alice frame always broke under load, the welded malice frame is a huge improvement.

[@Blakewater0326]

I haven't had issues with my frame breaking, despite many years of use including swimming and parachuting. I have however, seen other guy's frames break. We had the welded frames, though the variation we had would rust almost instantly after salt water immersion.

[@xp_pk]

I was watching your channel just yesterday wondering when/if you would do a rucksack video.

[@elijahcrosby786]

will be using this for JRTC next year

[@journeyman7189]

Great finish to an amazing series. All killer no filler! Nate

[@mattfleming86]

Fk yeah man. Nice to see you in full swing. Good day to split some wood and listen to Blakewater.

[@protectpersevere2030]

Right on about hydration!

[@a45456565]

Thank you😺

[@shadowlab9543]

great video, lots of cool tips !!!

[@alphabears6342]

I used to be a poncho guy that always had the philosophy that it was multiple usage until I was wearing it when it was down pouring and it was my only shelter option. I now carry a German poncho and a tarp. I learned from my mistake of listening to people that talk about multi usage under control environments. But they never had to use that one piece and use it for everything. There are great filters on the market that are light and extremely rugged and trustworthy. It will save you a lot of space and weight and pain.

[@ninoslavtrifunovic2641]

That is also part of "two is one, one is none" philosophy. I had similar experience, so I know what are you talking about.

[@gearedmind]

I’m getting Camp Lejeune vibes from watching these intros.😆 Keep ‘em coming!

[@Blakewater0326]

It's like 10 minutes away from where we filmed, so that makes sense!

[@gearedmind]

@@Blakewater0326 I was a 31 back in ‘03-‘07 so I felt those sandy pinewoods calling me…

[@AnthonyAntelman]

Where did you get your shirt? I'm having trouble finding the one with the black hook&loop on the arms.

[@doloinc]

I still rock the ALICE but upgraded to the Hellcat Mod.

[@Rule-of-Threes-Survival]

Excellent video/info. thanks for the refresher.

[@KloPoon]

As a gear nerd... I'm rock solid rn

[@Blakewater0326]

giggity

[@johnc2591]

@@Blakewater0326 first off Semper Fi secondly I really don’t fuck with tiger stripe camo never really liked it but not I’m kinda obsessed I’m a bigger guy like you and it looks fuckin tight elbows, if you don’t mind me askin where’d you get it? 😂

[@Blakewater0326]

@@johnc2591 pants are Crye and the field shirt is Platatac.

[@johnc2591]

@@Blakewater0326 my man thank you, it’s a gift from god looks like they make a blouse big enough for me haha. As for crye looks like the tiger stripe was a special addition only made 300 pairs total, you lucked out! I appreciate it man you look fuckin huge in that thing I’d hate trippin over you in the treeline 😂

[@nicko4071]

Loved the identifying as water joke

[@gud2go50]

Very good class! I admire the fact that you guys can handle and carry such heavy large loads in harsh terrain for long periods of time and under enemy threat (being you could get killed). Thank God for people like yourself. I did 20 years in the Marine Corps and did many different MOS' and special mission-type jobs (SOTG) that the Corps saw fit to have me do, but I always hated humping a rucksack. I dealt with having to do it at the time when my body was bulletproof. But of course, at 62 years old, I am paying for it now. I hope you hold up much better than me. Thank you for sharing your expertise with us all. I still like to get out and camp these days, but I try not to hump any weight anywhere anymore! Lol! 😄

[@nicko4071]

Great videos man. High density info

[@squibster333]

Lol...I'm still partial to my old Alice pack. Good info. Thank you.

[@twinarrowssurvival.2.065]

How do I sign up for a course I live in NC and am interested in all the classes you offer..?

[@Blakewater0326]

Go to the Maneuver Training Solutions website.

[@twinarrowssurvival.2.065]

@@Blakewater0326 Roger that thank u

[@jamesosborne5950]

Great information and great video

[@fanman8102]

All that water, always carry snivel gear cause hyperthermia is a risk, be careful cause your bladder might pop, etc, etc, etc. Excellent!

[@TL-uk2zj]

Hell yeah! Just noticed you’re back making vids on YT. Your IG posts helped me rethink my kit. Are you planning to teach courses on SUT and Patrolling?

[@icepoof]

Solid video

[@renaissancemarinetv3536]

what does it all weigh?

[@Blakewater0326]

don't know. I never weighed my ruck, I just packed what was necessary (or what I though was necessary) and carried it because that's how it goes. Over the years I looked for ways to lighten it by analyzing the usefulness of items, based on the mission and environment. I know that the water alone is around 30 pounds, and more than likely the ruck in total is about 80. But that's a guess.

[@CreachterZ]

Wait. You have powder already on your socks in ziplock bags? That’s genius! Anyone have a link to that video?

[@Blakewater0326]

That content went up on Instagram, I've shared it a few times over the past few years since posting on that platform. It's very simple: turn socks inside out and dust them with powder like you're seasoning chicken, then right them again. Bundle them together in your preferred manner, and use a quart size ziploc-style bag to store them. Dump a little extra powder into the bag as well so you can use that on other areas of the body (this is why i recommend body powder and not foot powder). When you change your socks, use the old ones to wipe off your feet with the portion that extends above your ankle. Place them aside, pull out the fresh socks and use the calf portion to apply some powder to your toes and feet bottoms to help dry them off. Then place your fresh socks on and replace your boots/ shoes. Use that excess as stated before, and when done place the old socks into the emptied bag. Seal it up, and stick into the bottom of your pack.

[@OzzieOz74]

Great video brotha! What water gathering system do you use in that top pouch?

[@MrUSApatriot01]

Thanks for the video. I’m worried I might find myself in the South Pacific in the next few years. Could you maybe do a video for some considerations or things you would want to have in order to stay light and mobile in the jungle? Looking to avoid drones and missiles.

[@aarondurbin2586]

random but what camo paint did you show, i am also blessed with a large ginger beard. thanks!

[@NiMi93]

1:11 no buddy, hard to forget with that +1 minute cool-guy intro + music + logo lol

[@byKillPhil]

Whats company is the uniform from? Ive been looking for a good set of tiger stripes for a while

[@Blakewater0326]

Platatac

[@dreb222]

Always have some sort of “cold weather and wet weather” gear on hand. For instance, in many deserts it can get blistering hot in the day but with a major drop in temperature at night, and monsoon downpour out of nowhere. We cannot discount nature and its abilities to know us out of the fight.

[@fanman8102]

So true! I’ve played that game in Southern California and SWA. Dudes huddled together shivering waiting for the giant heat tab to come up. Not a good time!

[@caylumhenderson9396]

That last sentence… should be damn quote from someone wow

[@skateboardrll2]

Ive done about 4-6 pairs of socks for a 30 day wilderness trip where my feet were wet 12 hours a day for 3 weeks of it. If you can bring more socks its never a bad idea! Luckily It was a canoe trip so I had access to water to rinse them out. I did get a bit of foot rot though at the end which I don't recommend. Great video! I want to take a class sometime soon!

[@journeyman7189]

Thanks for putting this together Blake. Pick up something new each time I watch it. The other gentleman in the opening, does he have a breakdown on what he carries, uses? His setup seems pretty stripped down in comparison. Nate

[@Blakewater0326]

He's using a much smaller rig with only 4 mags. There's another video up on the channel about chest rigs in general, and there's a video on the channel which goes into depth on deciding your ammo load out.

[@pop401k]

Sweet! Thank you!!

[@andrewcopeland1517]

I think I’m gonna get the filbe system. For the price of them surplus they seem hard to beat to give a try

[@selfrelience9384]

Great content as always. Thank you. Do you recommend a normal fit for rain/Gore-tex top to go under gear or a lose fit to go over?

[@nprwikeepa6082]

I have the same size rain gear as normal and it's naturally looser to go over the top of my clothes. Rig and pack go over the top of them

[@jonhudgins9059]

Him: packing a spork is great! Me eating my MREs with my knife: O.o whoops

[@michaelborror4399]

Nice rucksack, can't wait till my mt rucksack makes it up, looks pretty sweet, I'll have to check out some of the older videos. While I'm really liking my dark brown d ring belts, when it comes to watching urban combat and the blue paintball tape, and red, white, and blue; while we've got the black and grey, as part blackfoot and related to thomas jefferson and benjamin franklin, lol jk? Definitely looks like we got the same pig gloves, that are pretty good but I might wanna try an xl instead of large though. Or probably better to error on the side of too big with gloves at first as it's dumbell kettlebell day anyway, while my hhv helmet fits pretty well, after watching the kids get found in the rain forest today, it definitely makes me think a bump helmet with a pvs-14 could be nice too though. In the old days I've heard of a norse guy holding a bridge for quite awhile with a greataxe before someone swam under the bridge and he went off to valhalla with that build though, lol?

[@michaellorenzen8200]

first off I really enjoy your videos , they are a wealth of information to me however that being said IMHO in putting together a bug out bag/EDC I think that having more of a "grey man" physical appearance is important to me I learned a lot about being "stealth" from extended periods of being homeless and living on the streets and not bringing attention to myself that being said thank you again for your time and wealth of information 👍

[@Blakewater0326]

This information wasn't geared towards the "grey man" concept. This is about heading into the bush to conduct reconnaissance work, and could apply to combat patrols as well; you'll want an armored fighting load solution for that however.

[@Ronin-74800]

I'm a newbie on your channel. Do you have any links, videos, or suggestions for Alice gear up to the current issue?

[@Blakewater0326]

Nothing about ALICE gear. You can view the few videos that are up so far on the channel. You can also go to the Instagram pages for more information on individual equipment solutions and more.

[@legacydentco]

Keep ‘em coming! 🤜🤛😎🇺🇸🫡

[@billcostanzo6112]

What are your thoughts on the ILBE Recon pack? I've got the main and assault pack.

[@RebaDerChi]

Didn’t know you were local to Lejuene. I’m coming to take a class.

[@lipidi1542]

When going from this environment to the Arctic, the pack size would need to double 😬. Great video though, really informative!

[@Blakewater0326]

I can fit everything in this pack, there's a lot of space still inside the main compartment. That's why I have this ruck, because in the desert we carried a lot of hide construction equipment whereas the artic it becomes layers AND shelter material. Of course in snow covered environments we have sleds to help spread the load.

[@ClimbAClassic]

You know it’s a real deal when the load out discussion starts with water 👍

[@tattooninja]

That's what stood out to me too, most people don't bring enough water. I'd much rather carry in as much water as possible, and then have a light load on the way back. But I'm wondering how much water weight these already-heavy alice/malice bags are taking on when it rains.

[@crayoneater556]

Thanks for helping me to graduate from a POG to a loot drop

[@dkveracity65able]

Please share what brand of large front fanny pack is that, looks useful.

[@Blakewater0326]

CSM Gear

[@bryanfaulkenburg462]

I have always thought about modifying a OD green or similar darker greenish coloring grommets or toggles to act as a poncho liner. Also I like reinforced casualty blanket that . Here is my line of thinking wool is better insulation while wet than the woobie , but it could be combined with the casualty blanket for a Ranger roll sleep system with the poncho and possibly hide thermal signature in a hide site. Poncho top layer under that the casualty blanket and below that the wool blanket . All of these could be packed out as a Ranger Roll for ease of use.

[@Blakewater0326]

those thermal space blankets are also loud, something to keep in mind. When it comes to thermal defeat, you don't want items that will drape on you (unless specifically engineered) as your heat will conduct through that material. For static positions it's better to seek the purpose built material and use it to create your shelter. If the concern is that great, it can be kept at the top of the pack so if the team suspects a drone you can halt and pull the thermal defeat cloth over you.

[@Strelok762]

I greatly prefer SSO or Teknikom for my bags, my 6sh117 has been phenomenal

[@grilin18.]

If I feel like I might need more ammo, I’m guessing that goes in the assault bag?

[@evansoronen1451]

So just curious, you do not keep a spare pair of trousers with your additional clothing? And if not, how come?

[@Blakewater0326]

No, I don't pack spare sets of outer clothing. I use clothing made for being in the bush, and ensure it's serviceable beforehand. That's one more thing I need to fit into the pack, and one more thing taking space and weight that doesn't provide me with anything other than a change of pants. What I do carry is a small sewing kit to make repairs if something rips or tears.

[@dadmode5545]

Reindexing mags is one of my current gear issues. All the soft shell mag inserts don’t allow a smooth one handed reindex. Bit of a trade off from hard inserts.

[@Blakewater0326]

it can depend on the pouch, though typically soft pouches lack swift reindex abilities. Thats why I like Shaw Concepts and Unobtanium Gear soft pouches: they hold form when empty.

[@thehumblecough4819]

Agilite has your problem solved sir

[@dadmode5545]

@@thehumblecough4819 those look dope but aren’t inserts.

[@dadmode5545]

@@Blakewater0326 the Shaw concepts looks to be like the problem solver here… gonna get 2 sets and shove them in my tracer split rig.

[@boss302nard]

Good gouge. Semper yut!

[@Gunnyk1567]

“Chow is a crutch” is the most Marine Corps thing I’ve ever heard 🤣

[@Blakewater0326]

"Water is a crutch" would be more Marine, though I've found sarcasm to be lost on people who mysteriously took me seriously.

[@DerrelTheReal]

Hope you see this and provide suggestion if possible.. So I invested in one of Mystery Ranch Rucksack.. about $1300 and definitely worth it… my only problem is… during my ruck runs it feels like my left shoulder tends to bear most of the weight… my right shoulder is total fine and I try to adjust it where my right shoulder would take the weight.. but my left shoulder seems to be in the most pain during my ruck runs.. is it because my hips straps aren’t tight enough ? Should I be carrying the weight on all my hips or 50/50 spread between hips and shoulders? Even when I take my shirt off.. I can see a huge red line on my left shoulder from my ruck runs.. while my right shoulder is fine.. if you can suggest assistance or do I just need to suck it up ? Thanks. Forgot to add and I do have the light items on bottom and heavy on top.

[@Blakewater0326]

Sounds like maybe an issue in weight balance with the packed items, so double check that. Reset all the straps on the pack, and size it back up. When you don the pack, tighten your hip belt up first, and then the shoulder straps. Make sure the load driver straps aren't set disproportionally.

[@DF4Trap]

I appreciate the series, thanks for sharing.

[@MochiMoose]

Did I miss it or was there no sleep system? Is the sleep system the extra poncho and a poncho liner?

[@Blakewater0326]

Poncho and poncho liner are the "sleep system". Sleeping bags as a default are for recreational camping; when weight and space are at a premium you pack what you need. I'll have to do another video specifically on that topic, though I've covered it over on Instagram a handful of times. This load out is for the weather you see me in, so it's way too warm for a bag anyways. And as a genera rule, you don't climb inside a sleeping bag on reconnaissance tasks because you have to be ready to get up and go at a moments notice. Obviously weather dictates, and when the temperature drops low enough, bags come out. Though even in freezing temperatures there are workarounds.

[@robertdowns8182]

Watched all 3 parts a couple times each. All well done! Couple of questions 1. Headlamp, it's on the packing list for that class but I didn't catch it. Kinda wondering any preferences and where you stow it. 2. Rangefinder seems like a killing item or at least an enhancer would it not go / could it go on the fighting load? Thanks

[@freddyt86]

For headlamps there a hundreds of options. I like simple. Princeton Tec Byte is my go to. Only takes 2 AAA batteries and is fairly small. Red light comes on first. They have “tactical” versions that are black or tan. I prefer to keep mine in a cargo pocket on body. That way I’m not looking for it when it gets dark even if I don’t have any kit with me at all. Keeping it in a nut ruck isn’t a bad spot though.

[@Mac_in_the_Hat]

"... to light the package on fire." Sometimes I really miss the USMC

[@fanman8102]

Dang, I was thinking the same thing! LOL!

[@creal560]

How many pounds does this pack weigh on average, What is a good weight to train for carrying, I go hiking with 65 pounds, But I do squats and other leg and core exercises with 85 pounds, ???

[@Blakewater0326]

Pack weights what it weighs. There wasn't any real cause to weight them because the answer is always: "heavy". Usually in the vicinity of 100lbs, though they can be as light as 70 and upwards of 120 (from the few times someone actually weighed their ruck). For hiking, I generally recommend you don't go over 50lbs. Conditioning hikes are meant to be fast paced, endurance exercise. Endurance of your aerobic capacity to maintain pace under load, and endurance of your muscle and posture to carry that load. Use weight training, mobility, stretching, aerobics/ cardio, and holistic recovery to build up for carrying a heavy ruck for long periods at more slow paces. Considering that on a movement you'll be stopping periodically anyways.

[@ralphdog431]

Looks likes bow hunting area in my local WMA Great info

[@paraord1]

Water is heavy, how much dies your ruck and kit weigh?

[@Blakewater0326]

12 quarts was the standard for 96 hour sustainment. That alone is about 24lbs, and with the rest of sustainment items and mission essential a ruck will weight 80-100lbs. I’ve had rucks up to 120lbs.

[@HarbingerCorvus]

what about provisions for immaculate beard grooming?

[@Blakewater0326]

In the field it be what it be. Outside the field its Lox And Co.

[@TomMiller-v1p]

Well done, great video. Sound principles

[@lipidi1542]

What sort of hearing protection do you prefer with a boonie?

[@djsipp4743]

New subscriber here, I dig the content brother 🇺🇲🥷🔱

[@HangtownTactical]

What radio is that your running ??

[@jonsingleton203]

What do you think about the high calorie protein bars that are small but pack a ton of nutrients in a small package

[@TheModularDiver]

Are you using a version two or three malice pack?

[@Blakewater0326]

MALICE II

[@shadowlab9543]

i use poop as face camo and scatter it in the trail to demoralize the enemy when the step in it. also gives you an audible alert when the start complaining about the poopoo on their shoe 🤣

[@woodsghost9088]

That's funny, I do the same thing!!! We probably had the same trainers. 😂

[@Blakewater0326]

I know a guy who didn't want to listen and decided to take up a security position where everyone in the patrol base had been defecating. We called him, "Shitknee" after that.

[@woodsghost9088]

True Story, I played paintball in a cow pasture once. I was covered, and long after I continue to question my life choices.

[@shadowlab9543]

@@Blakewater0326 lol thats funny, great call sign

[@shadowlab9543]

@@woodsghost9088 i grew up working on horse/dairy farms so we used to throw frozen horse turds at each other (like baseballs) and once in awhile have a full blown cow pie wars, flinging cow crap at each other 🤣 average farm kid stuff.

[@darth_1]

Been running my old molle 2 system and i have been looking at packs and rucks and haven't found exactly what im looking for. What main pack is that?

[@donaldreynolds2998]

Tactical tailor malice pack

[@magillagorilla1]

Love the channel. New sub. Great intro. Need to colab with Risky Chrisky

[@justanothergunnerd8128]

Did anyone else just earn an Associate's Degree in ruck packing/considerations after watching this video?? Fantastic info here.

[@justanothergunnerd8128]

Forgot to mention - this is for deep recon, Vietnam LRRP style operations. Just amazing stuff

[@cliffkirby8570]

My problem is there's no local shops that carries much equipment that you can as you say put your hands on.

[@Blakewater0326]

What you can do is hit up what outdoor shops and hunting shops are in your area to get hands on what they have. Get a better idea for yourself what materials feel like and what features are out there. Using that knowledge, you can go online and find a pack, or whatever, that best suits your needs. There are also lots of resources for reviews on gear so you can research and be confident in your purchase.

[@cliffkirby8570]

@@Blakewater0326 okay thank you for responding.

[@EulenProduktion99]

44:30 the sound, wich i belive is the same to all human, that someone does once done packing 😄

[@karlhope9837]

Based and Hydration-pilled

[@HaroldCornbreadCarter]

On KZbin I never see the spare log of chew in their ruck, even though it’s apart of the MEG.

[@Blakewater0326]

I avoided dipping. On deployment I would keep a bag of chew for late nights on security, and that's it.

[@HaroldCornbreadCarter]

@@Blakewater0326 a true professional haha