BlerDCon isn't for Black Nerds | Tuesday Tea Talks

Chilllleeeeee, I just want one year where I don't see BlerDCon on some embarrassing bullshit. This year their first place cosplay contest winner was a white woman and I am confusion.
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[@socialdconpodcast8217]

Blerdcon claims to be for all disabilities but we had to hire our own sign interpreter for our deaf and hard of hearing members. Huh???

[@ygcosplay]

wait a minute....ya'll had to WHAT?

[@MinistryofOtaku]

They were virtue signaling...they were all talk and little walk.

[@KawaiiJackHonne]

Thats fucked up man

[@socialdconpodcast8217]

@@ygcosplay yup!

[@TonyCade]

It's like the name of the convention is just a marketing tool. If the con is for everyone. Don't pick a name that makes it sound otherwise.

[@MsArtemis01]

Straight facts.

[@mattsteel6062]

the ironic part is for the longest time they said "diversity does not mean anti-white" here you have a con made on the claim black people need their own space which is segregation just self imposed cause black people didn't feel welcome at actual diverse conventions that didn't focus on race but claims to be diverse and welcoming and most the critics of her winning is hate and everything from saying she bought the costume even though she didn't to she was racist or ignorant. she won because the judges looked at the quality of the costumes, the girl with the I assume robot arms on her costume they looked like crap, they looked like card bored boxes and they drooped, the CCS cosplayer not only made her outfit she dyed the fabric her self and the the prop was perfect, everyone else's had minor flaws from wigs looking disastrous, crappy props, or poorly made costumes. not saying she should have entered. she won cause her costume got the most points.

[@Feenucks]

“If I was her, I would not have put my white ass in Black ass business.” YES!!! ✊🏾❤️

[@blakep267]

The one judge really rubbed me the wrong way. As if sewing is the end all be all for cosplay

[@NaturalAsIWannaB]

I feel like as a ppl we need to stop saying we acknowledge that this isn’t for us but still give our time, money, and allegiance to something that is still NOT FOR US. In order to see change in these spaces we have to cut them out of our pockets which is why I will not be going next year and didn’t go this year. At this point they are simply pandering to the black community and a lot of us are falling for it yet again. This shit was unacceptable

[@ygcosplay]

You're not wrong and even though I can FEEL the temptation to attend next year because of my friends I believe we need to really tell BlerdCon that this is unacceptable and boycott them. Ya'll catch me at the hotel across the street and hosting my BlerdCon away from BlerdCon lol

[@NaturalAsIWannaB]

@@ygcosplay ooh! That would be so dope!!! I would definitely pull up

[@TshakaArmstrong]

Yep. Like the Democratic party. 🤣🤣🤣

[@auroracrowder4113]

@@ygcosplay ngl I would fly,hop,skip,and jump to be there I bet it would be dope af. I say fuck it up and get it poppin I know that would be better than giving money to a whole ass con that wants to pull this fuckshit

[@azuranox]

I really want to go to BlerDCon but it will rub me the wrong way just knowing that attendees from our community will just be viewed as $$ instead of building blocks for a safe space for us to enjoy each other’s company.

[@TheJrockfreak]

during this whole thing ive seen other Blerds mention having a "safe space" and as a Blerd im a bit confused by what that means because ive never felt unsafe or uncomfortable at cons, so do other Blerds not feel safe at for lack of a better word "regular" cons?

[@Moitie-Bae]

@@TheJrockfreak Depends. In my experience, you’re not as noticeable in regular street clothes. If you’re in Cosplay, however, well, as much as I love the hobby, the Cosplay community isn’t that nice. For example, you’ll often see White people get praise for characters who are meant to be POC, meanwhile actual POC are called slurs and made to feel like they don’t belong in nerd spaces. I personally have been given dirty looks by a fellow cosplayer who proceeded to ask *why* I was even at a convention despite also showing up in full cosplay, they even said it wasn’t my kind of event. Due to quarantine the harassment has been purely on social media lately, so you can go to almost any Black cosplayer’s comments to see. Quite a few Black cosplayers are targeted online daily, some even received threats or were doxxed. Some even turned their comments off for awhile due to “monkey Hinata” or “Nezuko is not a n-word with a hard r” comments. Not every nerd space is like this, but enough people within them are to the point where a lot of Blerds feel the need to separate themselves for their own comfort. I mean, I can’t really blame them.

[@TheJrockfreak]

@@Moitie-Bae oh wow. Can't say I was aware that anything like that was happening. I guess cause I'm not in the cosplay community ( I just buy my cosplays) I've never experienced anything like that but I guess I shouldn't be to shocked

[@mattsteel6062]

@@TheJrockfreak its just self segregation don't dwell on it, personally I'm all for self segregation the racists weed them selves out.

[@TheJrockfreak]

@@mattsteel6062 I guess that is true. I'm not for self segregation but I can respect that some people are

[@kaymesu]

The amount of blaming black ppl that stemmed from this is insane, looking at the next 3 runnerups they should have won

[@akumamakima2280]

Where can I find photos of the event? I googled a lot and can't find a single pic

[@randomworldinternet]

@@faeriejam-minmin2010 You can find clips here on this vlog, kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWjanJiaac-gmpI - start at the 2:50 mark

[@ygcosplay]

that! The anti-blackness is too loud

[@mihai000000]

@@ygcosplay i just heard of this "controversy" , and it absolutly disgusts me. This shit is so sureal....that im certain that it can't happen anywhere else other then murica'

[@NinjaAshiya]

i can only imagine how the audience felt when the first place winner was announced..

[@wannabee.romcom]

I was confused

[@ygcosplay]

I can't imagine. Also how is the winner gonna go home with a BLERDCON award. That's like a white woman getting a degree from a HBCU. HOW

[@AmarettoRawr]

@@ygcosplay .... plenty of white people go to HBCU's... in fact, in my state, the state school IS an HBCU.

[@ygcosplay]

Nani tf - do you know what HBCU stands for and why they were created????

[@AmarettoRawr]

@@ygcosplay Yes, I know. That also doesn't mean that it's black only in modern day. Some HBCU's are encouraging people who are not black to apply. There's a well circulated video of a white gentleman who attended Moorehouse and was well received on campus because he vibed with the school and it's mission.

[@akumamakima2280]

Um i just found some pics of the other people who entered... Prinz Eugene was way more difficult. Engenium and another one i saw looked difficult to make, obviously not store bought. The judges are full of it. I have to think that they did this so that they could prove that they are inclusive and get more white people to attend cause more money. The winner had a dress based on card captor sakura and it was like basic looking. Unless she stitched the lace herself I don't see how it was a matter of craftsmanship.

[@Andrice954]

Thoroughly agree

[@diobutt1894]

She did stitch everything by hand my dude, that’s why she won. One of the judges stated that they did want a black person to win but she didn’t pick them because she recognized how hard she worked and how hard it actually is to stitch up an entire dress unlike everyone else complaining about this dumb situation

[@mattsteel6062]

she won because the judges looked at the quality of the costumes, the girl with the I assume robot arms on her costume they looked like crap, they looked like card bored boxes and they drooped, the CCS cosplayer not only made her outfit she dyed the fabric her self and the the prop was perfect, everyone else's had minor flaws from wigs looking disastrous, crappy props, or poorly made costumes. not saying she should have entered but she won cause her costume got the most points.

[@akumamakima2280]

@@mattsteel6062 go away

[@diobutt1894]

@@akumamakima2280 why are you booing, him he’s right!

[@lordblazer]

yo I was there, the dude dressed up as Thoth on SAturday. Anyway yea, this is messed up. I paid for VIP passes cuz I believed in supporting Blerdcon, and knew it wasn't going to be the best as far as perks were concerned. and it wasn't. It was a totally rip off. But I was like "I believe in this con" type of thing, put my money where my mouth is when supporting black businesses and ventures. And I am wondering if this is even Black owned or operated? Blerdcon just seems to be after out $$$$

[@ygcosplay]

unfortunately it is. Hilton is the black man who runs it and he keeps showing us that he's not for us.

[@lordblazer]

@@ygcosplay I'm hearing that 3 out of the last 4 of these have had white winners of this cosplay contest.

[@Inuyashasgirl8]

I have a hunch that the judges dont understand or like armor builds cause many of the other contestants were armor builds

[@akumamakima2280]

Yeah the most vocal just seemed very biased about it saying that size doesn't matter or amount of eva foam... Like why trivialize it if you're not biased?

[@InfiniteJohn117]

Like in all honesty what made it fun was the people I hung out with. The con itself including some of the panels and the cosplay contest are not even worth the time

[@ygcosplay]

same. I went for the people not the convention itself. When I went to Katsucon a lot of attendees were ppl from BlerdCon and I got a similar experience. I just wanna meet up with my ppl

[@Lectora30]

Just subscribed. Love that you’re a fiber artist!!!

[@ygcosplay]

welcome and thank you!

[@dyronius]

I MISS YOU SO MUCH! It was a pleasure meeting you at blerdcon 2019 as Wooloo!

[@ygcosplay]

I miss you, too! Are you going to Katsucon next year?

[@dyronius]

@@ygcosplay absolutely 100%

[@tushiebean1688]

I completely agree and I love your content!

[@KawaiiJackHonne]

There was an Asian princess mononoke cosplayer in 3rd place her cosplay looks pretty good

[@KawaiiJackHonne]

It looks accurate to the movie

[@Littleawkwardderp]

is it true that the winner of the costume contest gets to represent blerdcon at other conventions? if so this whole situation is even more fucked.

[@ygcosplay]

from what I heard and understand, yes. I know the winner has posted an apology and is stepping down

[@Gothicc_senpai]

often i dont like watching people on youtube, but your channel is a rare gem. i wish my country has black anime con, my country has not many black people and often its hard to find people who look like me and are into anime, i guess america has all the black nerds haha i wish to visit one day, and talk with people. even tho the convention probably has a lot of virtue signaling and maybe it does not tick everyones boxes, still its good that it exist. as a black nerd i am always made fun of, called urkele or carlton banks for fun by people, [i would be happy to just be with my fellow black nerds, i cant believe in exist in numbers. i hope you guys keep going and keep it going, many of us who live in white majority countries can rarely meet fellow black nerds, take care and hope Blerdcon gets better overtime, everything takes time.

[@DaniiLuma]

I am attending next year because I want that safe space to be myself and to meet all my friends I have made online during the pandemic. I will even participate in the competition as well. With what? You'll figure out if you have to figure out in year. However, I agree with you. It's a business first. They want your money more than anything and do anything to exploit people and it's been done in the past. As much as we want inclusive places, how much are we willing to put up to do so?

[@ygcosplay]

That's the issue. We're putting up with too much and getting nothing in return. This isn't even their first offense.

[@SapphireChristella]

Very disappointing this happened. Couldn’t attend this year but might in the future just because I’d love to experience a black cosplay community event. As always it’s going to be the people, despite the system, that make it worth going to. Annoying I’ll have to give my money to such an obviously half ass attempt at getting the black dollar, but we take what we get and make it beautiful and worth it through experiences and each other. That’s how it’s always been.

[@clandestinewonders6735]

I was so disappointed when the cocreator of the convention had tweeted that they don’t need black people’s money

[@akumamakima2280]

I wanna add that the con ahould be inclusive, as discrimination is not ok. One of the judges mentioned having other categories like fan favorite, which is odd to me because I thought that was the norm in cosplay contests. I saw others saying it was short. If they had allowed the cosplayers to explain their cosplay and what they did to the audience and the judges were more transparent on judging criteria where they are literally everywhere else.

[@FreedomNation]

Its disrespectful from the owner, disrespect from the judges, and disrespect from the girl who entered.

[@mihai000000]

okay , i have a very serious question for you : What happens if u make an white only convention that black people can;t enter or win ? how do u even advertise that without it sounding racist as fuck ? And why is it okay if its any other race ?

[@TheJrockfreak]

I dont even blame the cosplayer for entering the competition, the fault lies on the judges for picking her to win. As a Black nerd myself, I dont see the need for a all Black con anyway because what are they offering that I cant get at other cons?

[@arianneriley4824]

She addresses that in the video.

[@Romusk86]

This is an unfortunate turn of events. I think a lot of mistakes were made by many different people. I also get the feeling the winner and the judges are regretting their decisions.

[@0mgmufasa473]

We rooming next year?

[@aristesmith9000]

The contest was hella short too... the event was supposed to run from 6 to 8 .. they had a whole wedding that ran for like 15 minutes and the judging was done by like... 630 lol it was crazy. It really seemed like not enough cosplayers participated.. but IN NO WAY should a non POC win first place in a con meant to allow black nerds to shine..

[@KawaiiJackHonne]

A WHOLE WHAT

[@twitchywitchx]

Didnt know what a blerdcon was until now but this is probably the most messy shit I've seen in a while 😂 I've seen like 3 different interpretations of what blerdcon is within 15 minutes and they all clash

[@jaharigarner174]

Subscribing

[@akumamakima2280]

Does the blerdcon cosplay contest involve performances?

[@ygcosplay]

no

[@arianneriley4824]

Agreed with your comments on comparing different crafts. It’s like comparing apples to oranges.

[@mattsteel6062]

she won because the judges looked at the quality of the costumes, the girl with the I assume robot arms on her costume they looked like crap, they looked like card bored boxes and they drooped, the CCS cosplayer not only made her outfit she dyed the fabric her self and the the prop was perfect, everyone else's had minor flaws from wigs looking disastrous, crappy props, or poorly made costumes. not saying she should have entered but she won cause her costume got the most points.

[@omegaman21]

I pretty much said to my friend that this contest was stacked in her favor. From her being white, to choosing a familiar cosplay, to the choice of craftsmanship (sewn). I have a tough time believing that the judge/friend that "pushed" her to enter wasn't aware of that she would place highly. This felt more like a publicity stunt to get her friend's cosplay talents noticed, and it backfired.

[@Hat5858]

I am confusion... Lol

[@sammychiba86]

Dude was just trying to market to black folks...he might as well just change the name...

[@Jay-we9ql]

I would’ve boo’d. I’m sorry, my gut reaction would’ve been to boo.

[@Andrice954]

Big sigh 😞, like just drop the blerd talk and just make it a regular con. That way no one would be surprised when black cosplayers get looked over.

[@InuMiroLover]

"Anyone can be a blerd." LOLWAT. So since everyone can apparently be a blerd, I guess its alright for yt people to cosplay while in blackface. Right????

[@EnalyTRansburg]

I’m sorry, my family can sew but I’ve never been good at it and I still say she shouldn’t have won at all, all the other cosplays were more intricate.

[@mattsteel6062]

the ironic part is for the longest time they said "diversity does not mean anti-white" here you have a con made on the claim black people need their own space which is segregation just self imposed cause black people didn't feel welcome at actual diverse conventions that didn't focus on race but claims to be diverse and welcoming and most the critics of her winning is hate and everything from saying she bought the costume even though she didn't to she was racist or ignorant. she won because the judges looked at the quality of the costumes, the girl with the I assume robot arms on her costume they looked like crap, they looked like card bored boxes and they drooped, the CCS cosplayer not only made her outfit she dyed the fabric her self and the the prop was perfect, everyone else's had minor flaws from wigs looking disastrous, crappy props, or poorly made costumes. not saying she should have entered but she won cause her costume got the most points.

[@sammychiba86]

Imagine being a 6f and intending to win a blerd cosplay contest...

[@michaelmaddox2536]

So first thing, great video. To the point and not any boring filler ruining the topic. In my opinion, after today, Blerdcon is a convention highlighting that Black people are nerdy too. The whole idea is that we are tired of being stereotyped as thugs or whatever else. The con purpose is to show the world that our community has nerds like every other. The creator said anyone can be a Blerd. I feel he is saying your race alone doesn't make you a blerd. Nor does your love for nerdy things. A person that stand up and support Black Nerds and not putting us in a box of stereotypes is a Blerd. I'm aware I can be wrong. I look forward to the owner being called out on this topic so we can get clarification. My take from this experience is the con isn't racist. Anyone can go, compete, and have a decent chance of winning. I respect that even though I don't completely agree with it. I concede, when I first heard about Blerdcon, I assumed it was black owned and operated. I assumed that Blerds were Black Nerds by definition. That doesn't seem to be the case. Don't see it as a good or bad thing.

[@akumamakima2280]

Being black is the bl part of being a blerd. You're not a blerd if you're not black. If he's just calling all attendees blerds because it's blerdcon, he needs to rethink his language. Because he's literally saying anyone can be black. The com is new and already black people are feeling ignored. They should allow anyone to attend but, imagine going to the naacp awards and a white woman won in a category. How would you feel? Black people are constantly told that regular cons and cosplay aren't for them because they don't naturally look like the characters they dress up as.

[@michaelmaddox2536]

@@akumamakima2280 I think my reply didn't post. Do you see it? (This has happened before btw)

[@akumamakima2280]

@@michaelmaddox2536 I don't see your reply

[@michaelmaddox2536]

@@akumamakima2280 ahh weird. I was trying to understand you on a fundamental level. Should white people not be allowed to compete or simply a understanding between judges to never let white people win contest?

[@akumamakima2280]

@@michaelmaddox2536 maybe they should specify that this contest is a show of black excellence in cosplay. I think that should be a way of framing the contest so it's not discrimination and about the celebration of black cosplayers. Allies can come to support but that's it.

[@killmongermyhero1169]

Take everything from us, exclude us from their events etc, while infiltrating our spaces "Black people what's the issue?" They say..FBA B1

[@gamercow4297]

I got a question this no trolling but why have separate con for black people? I'm Mexican don't understand why have our separate con? We enjoy party holidays and events with everyone not just our own race

[@Jus2129]

Fr. Why isn't there a herdcon for us hispanics?

[@gamercow4297]

@@Jus2129 honestly that sound dumb why don't they have normal con just have more strict rules

[@andraniquegreen9199]

Since you’re not trolling I’ll genuinely answer. Blerdcon is important because black nerds tend to have an issue finding a safe space in other cons because of racism in the cosplay community (being told the characters aren’t black and being called names like monkeys) few points: someone can be Mexican/Hispanic/or insert other Nationality/Ethnicity here, and black because black denotes race.

[@exisdoes]

It gives very much pandering tease. Shame, the cosplayer shouldnt have taken the award. Nice video!

[@eglantinepapeau1582]

i heard she stepped down and refused the prize

[@exisdoes]

I heard that also, good to know!

[@marianderson1352]

I've never been but it's very disheartening to see. I think the judges got it wrong because there were clearly better cosplays than what actually won. I don't mind anyone coming but if this con was for us, then we should be centered and prioritized. Period. I'm still probably gonna go but Imma have to get over my disappointment first. Lol

[@Tomorrow_lauren]

I think that the yt woman should have had the situational awareness not to enter (& to ignore her friend). Body shaming is not cool tho... but also, like this is emblematic of the issue of a con allegedly for black people not prioritizing the community! Like apparently this is the 3rd of 4 Blerdcons to have a non POC winner which is... Wild. Also, lmao I am not a Blerd, Mr Con Manager. I would consider going to support black cons & cosplayers but.. Like you said wtf does he think the BL is FOR? Also I saw a tweet of someone was selling only white elf ears...wild.

[@mattsteel6062]

so question why did you write white as yt? you wrote out black twice , in my experience only anti white racists use yt to write white.

[@cryhog]

The winner didn’t deserve backlash. But if I were white I wouldn’t have entered. But that’s just my opinion.

[@danielleb7416]

Listen, Blerdcon is great. Folks should not miss it. And they have course corrected. In the last two years, the cosplay winners have been Black. So give yourself the gift of joy & community & just go.

[@BreakOrbit03]

I attended in 2019. Never again. Yes the convention should be exclusive, yet Black people should come first in this space made for us! I thought that was the point? I can't keep giving my money to organizations that do not cater to us, yet pander to us. As if we don't get discriminated enough in the wider nerd community, now this?

[@pastel_anarchy5631]

I am a white cosplayer. But even I know that she should have not entered into that contest . Black cosplayers already have so much taken away from them. She could have taken it to any other cosplay contest and still won. she didn’t need to take a Bipoc cosplayers spot in the spotlight. Second the one judge pissed me off with her post basically claiming the other cosplays where “ halloween costumes”. I’m no that girl with the mecha arms was most definitely not that low quality. Seeing is not the end all be all of cosplay. It’s easy once you learn . Now armor and that kind of massive build. That’s not easy at all.

[@crushingzero]

Personally I could not care less about blerdcon at this point

[@longtaleanimation6849]

The Judges response made it seem like Black Cosplayers dont put in work into their cosplay. That they are violent cause they say Death Threats happened but with no receipts. And that most of the costumes in the Contest are Halloween quality Costumes. Rumor is said that 1st place is bought just with modifications. And the judges aren't actively in the Cosplay/Costume making community to really be judges of the craft. So just fave value.

[@InuMiroLover]

Thats what bugged me the most. Way to just shit on all the other entries. People already know that entering a cosplay contest, you have to prove your skill and craftmanship. Nobody is entering with something from a Halloween costume shop! And that judge was basically saying that every entry but hers was basically a cheap costume with no skill or time put in! To her I say, FUCK YOU.

[@distractedkenzo4523]

Blaucasian 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@swagoneto7922]

The judges had a lot seamstress bias and really shouldn't be up there....All the black blaming surrounding this thing is the worst part. The crazy paper bag comments from that judge is wild...

[@ygcosplay]

yeah, that still don't sit right with me. My ancestors woke up and went, "Excuse me...?" got the entire bloodline confused

[@BigWired]

See, I’d wondered what the heck was going on when I heard that a white woman had won the cosplay contest. I was just… what? Because I was under the impression that it was a majority black convention, which is perfectly fine. I’m white, we’ve got tons of cons to go to, Blerds deserve a place of their own to unwind, relax, and have fun.

[@TheJrockfreak]

As a Blerd tho I feel welcomed at any con I go to

[@timskywalker]

Are you saying us white allies can’t come to Blerdcon?

[@ygcosplay]

Are you saying you didn't watch my video?

[@afasfedawzdsrf]

I wouldn't be surprised, I couldn't even be bothered to finish two minutes of the video since it didn't even take two minutes for her to start complaining about a white person winning something at a convention that's about including everybody and allowing everybody to participate in all aspects. I mean it's kind of your own fault if you are unhappy with what you see inside if you don't read the sign plastered at the front door describing what's inside so to speak.

[@Moitie-Bae]

You can go as an ally, but why would you enter the contest at Blerdcon? You realize is stands for *Black* Nerd Convention, right?

[@afasfedawzdsrf]

@@Moitie-Bae maybe because the con itself encourages you to?

[@wryterzblock]

Just went with my white BFF and we cosplayed together as Light Yagami and Ryuk.

[@artzreal]

1- According to social justice standards this is CULTURAL APPROPRIATION (of Japanese Anime Culture) 2- What kind of ultimate hulking bias makes it SEGREGATION when white people create spaces separated by COLOR, but when black people do it it's a good thing? (As for "Oh my God, can't we have anything?..." try watching TV Africa and see if you can find a single white person in there, and the kind of inclusiveness that you find in Western Media, I dare you) 3- What is being judged to win in this contest, the costume's craftsmanship, or is it how black you are? 4- Judging (what you would call hating) any person of any color for winning a black self-segregated event just because the COLOR of that person's SKIN, is ________ (fill in the blank) Yeah, you got it right, it's RACIST AF (not to mention SEXIST and MISOGYNISTIC because she's a woman) But then again, social justice ain't nothing but a snake eating itself from behind

[@Moitie-Bae]

How is its misogynistic? Other women were able to enter and they have. 😭

[@ygcosplay]

bruh, I'm not reading all that for free...

[@RazielBlair]

@@ygcosplay Then you are simply proving your racism and ignorance - good for you.

[@devalphamon7289]

Plenty of white actors in South africa

[@afasfedawzdsrf]

Not even 2min in and I stop bothering to watch the video because she starts complaining when she finds out a white person won a contest at a convention that says on their own website that they are inclusive and everyone is able and encouraged to participate in all aspects of the convention. Of course I shouldn't have even bothered clicking on the video given the title and that should have been enough of a clue to me.

[@ygcosplay]

KZbin needs a laugh react button...

[@afasfedawzdsrf]

@@ygcosplay I'm sure that if it did that we would be laughing at each other. Me laughing at you because you have an issue with the convention that says itself that they are inclusive in all aspects and you laughing at me for pointing out that fact that you don't seem to like.

[@wandeesthoughts]

It's a convention for black nerds why is a white person even being the face of this event?

[@afasfedawzdsrf]

@@wandeesthoughts according to the "about blerdcon" section of the con's website it's not. You might think that from the name but you might want to read up on the con's own description about itself before saying it's for anything in particular.

[@RazielBlair]

@@wandeesthoughts Except it is not - please learn to properly read.

[@kavonartis4330]

I've attended one con and it's an experience,she shouldn't have attended in all honesty

[@AmarettoRawr]

By that logic, then a lot of vendors and staff shouldn't be there either. And that's kind of whack.

[@BleachBlue04]

That’s discriminatory.