Blind Grading Reveal: 1987 Fleer Basketball! Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barkley, Dr J 🔥

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@SportsCardInvestor 4 ай бұрын

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@Riddle-TCG 5 ай бұрын

More impressed that kid and his father shopped the exact same section of the store for the entire time the video was filmed

@buffalobill9793 5 ай бұрын

Ya that was super annoying.

@thecardsociety 5 ай бұрын

I’m surprised more people weren’t looking in while Geoff was screaming

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Must be in entertainment I'm guessing

@buffalobill9793 4 ай бұрын

@@thecardsociety there is no entertainment section in a card store. If your into cards the while store would be the entertainment section.

@skipthebase 5 ай бұрын

What’s crazy is the Joe Barry Carol looks noticeably off center from left to right to me, which shows how much of a racket the entire grading game is.

@jeffhowell1522 5 ай бұрын

Card grading is definitely a scam ,especially the vintage,l think that the card companies put pressure on the grading companies to low grade vintage cards because they aren't making any money on them.

@markeastridge9649 5 ай бұрын

28:14 maybe a touch diamond cut too. Print is nice

@brianogrodnick1382 5 ай бұрын

Now send in all the sgc cards that are 8vand 8.5 and I bet the will get better grading

@brianogrodnick1382 5 ай бұрын

No way in he'll psa grade tuffer

@brianogrodnick1382 5 ай бұрын

The 10 is off center

@jamesrfb 5 ай бұрын

The Human Highlight Film never fails to deliver, and his ‘87 Fleer is such a cool looking card to boot; thanks for the fun video!

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Great comment and I couldn't agree more my friend!! 💯

@leefeegreenz 5 ай бұрын

1987 Fleer Basketball is the absolute toughest set I've ever graded. The printing issues are absolutely horrendous! Many can't be seen unless you use a magnifying glass.

@velvetbear7184 5 ай бұрын

In the 80’s nobody gave a crap about perfect centering and so on. Real collectors still don’t care..

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

@@velvetbear7184real collectors or broke ass collectors?

@tysony8785 Ай бұрын

@@velvetbear7184real collectors care or the whole grading system wouldn’t exist. Off center Griffey UD cards were so annoying as a kid and still are. Print defects were less annoying. It was accepted back then because cards were cheap prior to UD in 89. Properly centered cards look better. Same reason a diamond with better clarity is worth more money. Humans like rarity and perfect cards are more rare especially from 40 years ago. God that hurts to type that 87 was almost 40 years ago. Back then 2025 might as well have been 2735 to me. Still waiting on my flying car

@gordtep 5 ай бұрын

Love the PSA grade reveal videos -- good stuff

@pomskylifenova7344 5 ай бұрын

Nice Joe Barry Carroll. He is an Atlanta local and lots of fans

@terrynewhartjr1093 5 ай бұрын

Geoff, Love this set. One of my favorites. I actually have the complete set in PSA 9/10 condition. I will most likely never be able to complete it in PSA 10 condition because of cards like Joe Berry Carroll. I can’t afford to put that type of money into commons, but that’s ok…I still love having a complete set graded in high condition. I actually am working on the 1986 set in PSA 9 and the 1988 set in PSA 10 condition. I have really enjoyed trying to piece these together. There are a couple of higher priced ones in the 1988 set that are commons, but because of low pop…they command high prices, but not nearly as high as the 1987 low pop ones.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

That 1988 Drexler is a killer in PSA 10

@johnblacksmith9505 5 ай бұрын

Great video Geoff. Love it when u and Mark open up old packs. So much knowledge between the 2 of you. Lookiung forward to the '81 box rip and many others with Mark.

@sportsandstuffwithmr.hudco7829 4 ай бұрын

The excitement is awesome no matter what the value thank you for the reveal!!

@jessebunn7874 5 ай бұрын

These 2 r dopes. Bought a box for 10k spent almost a grand grading and for what? To lose several thousand dollars? Lol great job guys!

@hawk-du1yl 5 ай бұрын

And made 10,000 from youtube on the two videos.

@jessebunn7874 5 ай бұрын

@hawk-du1yl lol ya right! 40k views doesn't equal $10k buddy.

@liverust5 5 ай бұрын

Who cares it was fun and the guy is not hurting for money. He could do same with 86 multiple times

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

I'm sure they set out to buy a 10k box to lose 4k....wtf are you new to collecting? Every pack is a potential lottery ticket.....I applaud them for this break!

@jessebunn7874 4 ай бұрын

@@liverust5 u care...ur commenting

@wesleyjames7015 5 ай бұрын

I have 3/4 of this set autographed!!!! Still working on it…. And most cards are immaculate….

@wesleyjames7015 5 ай бұрын

I got all the star cards auto’d except the jordan… damn the jordan…. All the way from chicago here

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

You guys have something very rare and unique....get them slabbed dna'd is what I would look to do ....

@IrishDocmakes 5 ай бұрын

The fact that you 2 completely agree that grading is subjective from one grading company to another. Why not do a comparison video using Tag's AI grading? There is a strong opinion out there that AI is where grading is headed. I'm not sure if I agree, but I do like their DIG report (clear transparency).

@dwiii1635 5 ай бұрын

Completely agree. If people actually want unbiased detailed reviews of their card, TAG would be the way to go. But the hobby is all about value and profit now, so they go to the dinosaur monopoly company. It's sad.

@vintagecollector5340 5 ай бұрын

@@dwiii1635 Everyone wants to maximize their profits. I don't blame them at all. It's only human nature.

@dwiii1635 5 ай бұрын

@@vintagecollector5340 And it'll probably be the eventual death of the grift, I mean "hobby."

@vintagecollector5340 5 ай бұрын

@@dwiii1635 Business has been a big part of the hobby for many decades. I don't see the hobby dying because of it. People getting burnt in the hobby will eventually just leave the hobby or learn to make smarter purchases.

@michaelkack 5 ай бұрын

TAG Grading is by far the best

@salr2875 5 ай бұрын

That was a fun video . Remember when you guys opened it. Congrats on the Joe Barry who is most famous for being basically traded for Parish and McHale

@cgbach 5 ай бұрын

I haven’t watched this channel in a year and I randomly came back today. I remember that box break, amazing!!!

@liverust5 5 ай бұрын

That's a gem mint card! Start dialing!

@b-man1232 5 ай бұрын

The Father/Son managed to spend 33 minutes in 1 aisle....must have been some great cards in those cases.😂😂

@wheelman0799 5 ай бұрын

They were paid by Jeff to.look like customers

@leefeegreenz 5 ай бұрын

I sent in a Dale Ellis that was pack fresh, perfect centering, perfect corners, and it came back a 6!

@camerontreadway3366 5 ай бұрын

Because the whole world is against you. The card was a 10 but you are a victim.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Bahaha yep that's the 87 set for you.....but the alternative is blame the grading co

@justinmayo1483 5 ай бұрын

I have one of those Jordan stickers. I’ve had it since I was about 12 years old, over 30 years ago. Always have wanted to get it graded.

@AllanAdamson 4 ай бұрын

opening even 90s packs if they aren't stored right even with all the plastic wrap & everything you'd find that they're cracking or whatever, it varies

@LaGroove82 5 ай бұрын

Is that Tpot's Dad?

@Ripping4Rutschmans 5 ай бұрын

Congratulations on the Joe Barry Carrol!

@tubenachos 5 ай бұрын

87 is so tough especially the first 20 cards of the set.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@DK-dp3kk 5 ай бұрын

Thanks - this was fun. Sadly like most box breaks there isn't money to be made (1987 Fleer box was about $12,000 + grading probably at $1,800 but sale prices maybe $6,000). Sorry.

@greg3072 5 ай бұрын

Started collecting with this set.

@HustleLifee 5 ай бұрын

What would you say to someone that brought a Joe Carroll card, and asking to trade for all 7 of your graded mjs, your gem mint 10 Wilkins, and all of those other cards? I think you'd laugh in his face lol. I know the last one sold for 4k, but those people willing to spend that kind of money on a nobody name are very few if you can find anymore of them at all.

@mrhwarang1 5 ай бұрын

I would never shell out 4 grand for a card of a player that used to be called "Joe Barely Cares" back in the day....

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

That's because neither of you are putting together a master set PSA 10 which when complete is worth 100k

@TheCardDeal 5 ай бұрын

Geoff, would have been cool to slice the BBCE wrap at the lid and not across the front of box. People collect those.

@borich8826 5 ай бұрын

Me I'm always watching you..from the Philippines

@KK-pm7ud 5 ай бұрын

Temu Topps Chrome Basketball boxes about to tank now Wemby and LeBron are pulled

@rattpoison1 5 ай бұрын

Is there any reason Geoff is anti-BGS grading? Guessing he gets special discounts from the bland label PSA.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Bgs is awesome....I have a few, and good cards....but way early on I made a decision to strictly collect PSA.....bias maybe so but I'm meticulous about my collection being uniform and of value

@rattpoison1 4 ай бұрын

@@brianoneal2547 nothing wrong with that.

@Zman82 3 ай бұрын

He's tied up with PSA obviously. They're in love.

@richardbianco9674 5 ай бұрын

Those last ones are psa pop control at its finest

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

I have been collecting 1987 fleer strictly for the better part of the 2000s and I can tell you they are the toughest cards to get PSA 10s and not because of PSA but if you watch the video fully, and take note of what they are saying, and look at the comps side to side each card is different....remember my friend this was 1987 not 2024 cards....

@richardbianco9674 4 ай бұрын

@brianoneal2547 oh I know the difficulty. I've also seen psa give 10s to cards that in no way at 10s. Their consistency is terrible. Pop control would at least explain some of that.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

@@richardbianco9674 no one is consistent

@richardbianco9674 4 ай бұрын

@@brianoneal2547sgc has been the most consistent. It's not even close. Cgc is but nowhere near as popular. Both psa and bgs are notorious for massively overgrading or undergrading. You can see the proof everywhere.

@jamesreynolds9673 5 ай бұрын

Never heard someone scream that loud for a 3 hundred dollar card

@carolinatarheels7903 4 ай бұрын

He screamed until he found out it was on,y a $300 card and then it was “oh, okay, that’s good” Like a little kid not getting what he wants. He probably thought is was a $5,000 card and his own app let him down.

@DaddyHen29 5 ай бұрын

I feel it’s hard for people to fully grasp the difficulty of grading sets like this

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

There are so many johnny come latelys in the hobby that it's quite comical.....this thread tells the story....people complaining about grading Joe Barry Carrol....if they hadn't they would have left 4k sitting on the table....

@adamscardcloset9020 3 ай бұрын

Awesome stuff

@ramonayala9296 5 ай бұрын

Awesome video !!

@dash9658 5 ай бұрын

SGC slabs look so much better than PSA

@tubenachos 5 ай бұрын

I think for vintage only SGC rules

@dandougie363 5 ай бұрын

The sneaky sgc way out? 😂😏

@stevepwnz 5 ай бұрын

it annoys the heck out of me when people use box cutters on the boxes , take a few seconds extra to open the box carefully , I am sure many people would love to have them for displays without huge slice marks all over them ! .

@sportscastercanada 5 ай бұрын

It is ridiculous. Our fingernails are more than capable. 😂

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

I agree.....makes me nauseous....almost as bad as nails on a chalk board....one of the things I would like to add to my collection is an opened 87 box and maybe a pack

@Jetman41 5 ай бұрын

Opening rare and expensive vintage boxes and packs is a losing investment and the dumbest thing you can do. The value is the fact that they are still in tact and unopened and you’re not going to get high grades on most of the cards because of all the low printing quality. Even high grades you’ll lose your money. Only way it makes any sense would be like what Jeff is doing having a big following and using it for content.

@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын

I am confused, I thought you were exclusive PSA. Changed your mind? What makes you decide to send a card to which grader?

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Cost

@NicholasAckerman-xv3dm 5 ай бұрын

Dominique Wilkins so under valued..he got overshadowed in an Era such great talent. Would dominate today little like Ant

@patrickmcdaniel4651 5 ай бұрын

He was not. He just wasn't in the top 10 of his era. Maybe not top 15-20.

@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын

Great player not a great team. I agree. You can only wonder if he had gone to a big market team.

@NicholasAckerman-xv3dm 5 ай бұрын

You made my point for me. Everyone knows if he had been surrounded by talent like Pippen he would have a better storied career and rank higher. Basketball is a team sport and it reflects overall @@patrickmcdaniel4651

@new8generd43 5 ай бұрын

Why did you choose to grade with SGC?

@Matt11696 5 ай бұрын

Because SGC is getting respect. Also great for vintage. PSA & SGC are the king of sports grading now.

@DanielCordone9 5 ай бұрын

BGS are the best @@Matt11696

@thehobbyist1 5 ай бұрын

He chose to grade with SGC because he didn't think they were in good enough condition to send to PSA

@Dofferinho 5 ай бұрын

How about listening to the first 4 minutes of the video?

@schnurrfpv4594 5 ай бұрын

Holy crap its been over a year and they just got them back

@Doors067 4 ай бұрын

Sgc is tougher on centering then any grader in the hobby bell that's why I love them

@radicooldad5219 5 ай бұрын

Great reveal!!! I assume that PSA didn't catch the value on that 4K card and up charge you on the grading...?

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

That's a good question....I'm not a grader....but collect graded cards....would like to know that as well

@bigttoe101 5 ай бұрын

Blew out my ears for a 300$ card 😢

@spic0li 5 ай бұрын

Thats how pathetic it is to get a 10 with PSA nowadays

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Waayyyyy booo hoooo waayyyyy wayyyy

@frankc3635 4 ай бұрын

The scg slab looks so much nicer

@jacobw8849 5 ай бұрын

Darn Market Movers app… I was totally set to offer Geoff $125/piece for each Jordan!!!

@robleavold84 5 ай бұрын

Geoffrey Wilstrem will swap them all for a lebron rookie worth 19 billion dollars for content.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Nice try my friend....nice try!

@bargainhunter2404 5 ай бұрын

That PSA 9 Barkley looks out of focus compared to the other 2. The SGC 8 looks more clear then both of them.

@philippemarois5828 5 ай бұрын

Geoff is a great host and business entrepreneur, but these videos have too many sales pitches in it … Fanatics marketplace, Sport card investors, … it turns me off watching the episode

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

First order of business gotta pay the bills

@WaltTheCardManiac 5 ай бұрын

Wheres the Will Grier grading reveal

@chiwhitesox7 5 ай бұрын

I still trust SGC over PSA. That being said, I still don't understand why people use grading companies that will tell you what the flaws are. It's 2024, no reason for mystery anymore.

@spic0li 5 ай бұрын

Wtf PSA owns SGC now 🫣🤡

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

@@spic0lishuuuuu don't tell him

@spic0li 4 ай бұрын

@@brianoneal2547 yea pretty much why educate people if they don't respect it from ppl that have more experience and have successful at it ...🙄

@ozman1966 5 ай бұрын

Who would actually buy a Joe Barry Carroll card? For real, I can't imagine even getting that card graded. 99.9999% have never heard of that player.

@jays_-jk2ru 4 ай бұрын

Guys trying to complete their 7-8 or even 9 figures PSA 10 set collections.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

@@jays_-jk2ruexactly

@jbertot11 5 ай бұрын

geoff how did you enjoy saturday’s 41-17 game?? 🙌🙌

@liverust5 5 ай бұрын

FLEEEER

@zmannsportscards 5 ай бұрын

Pretty cool reveal. Go Joe Barry! Lol

@mojicajose88 5 ай бұрын

Has anyone noticed that Geoff always wears a black shirt ?

@chefboyarede11 5 ай бұрын

And goofy sneakers

@greg3072 5 ай бұрын

Nope

@pokerbuddy62 4 ай бұрын

Lmao the Larry Smith is visibly off center and might be slightly diamond cut. Lucky grade

@wayneburbrink1215 5 ай бұрын

The centering on that Akeem wasway worse on the psa

@GregShoemaker-rg2yv 5 ай бұрын

Where is the Bgs 9 or Bgs 9.5 submitted?

@terryalexander563 5 ай бұрын

Akeem did look better in PSA 8. It has better coloring than the SGC 9.5

@sunny8784 5 ай бұрын

PSA doesnt grade harder, they use sleepy slides to grade their cards, they are simply inconsistent.

@HausOfPain 5 ай бұрын

You just now got these back? 😂

@padraicpodge 5 ай бұрын

That guy in the background must have been 7’ tall!!

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

LoL

@melvinsmiley5295 5 ай бұрын

Please God….make people STOP SAYING “Let’s Go” and “Fire”. Both sayings are just so… so dumb.

@tubenachos 5 ай бұрын

Especially when they're middle-aged men which makes it 100x worse 😂😂😂

@BlueToronto 5 ай бұрын

@@tubenachos Grow up.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

@@tubenachosthat is me....and I agree with you....hate the saying let's go.....it's ridiculous

@lawcane 4 ай бұрын

And 'dope'

@philgillett5258 5 ай бұрын

Your numbers guy what’s your numbers on this you paid 10 grand for the box you got all those graded did you make any money or was it just for fun?

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

I think they basically claimed what it was for

@fatpacksphunter9702 5 ай бұрын

Really makes me wonder why two guys like this who are into cards very seriously take an opinion by a 20 something making 20 $ something an hour to grade cards like they are some kind and of expert all they do is use magnification to inspect cardboard

@richardbianco9674 5 ай бұрын

Lol toughness in grade is not why psa sells for more. It's fan boys like you and investors that jumped on psa long ago. Stubbornness to change

@adamconnelly-vw8il Ай бұрын

Look at overall colour...i grade for psa..centre..corner...is easy to differ...look at overall colour of card from that era

@UHPhilipA 5 ай бұрын

do some bgs grade reveals with subgrades

@paulmouradjian6045 5 ай бұрын

How does that happen on the Ewing card? Because it wasn't there when YOU submitted. SGC messed that card up and you paid full price for them to say the card is less than. GRIFTEROOOOOOO!!!!

@chrisduncan3323 5 ай бұрын

Can confirm had this happen with gold wave ohtani last year where they bent the corner.

@jimmy_iKoN 5 ай бұрын

That’s why I buy 8s 😂

@spininside100 3 ай бұрын

When they pulled the fourth Jordan a year ago, they promised to give that card to someone in the comments…

@paulmouradjian6045 5 ай бұрын

So....Geoooofffff said Secondary stars go to SGC. FIRST CAR IS Freakin' Dr J!!!!!! Then Jabbar....bwahahahahahaa Come on Man! Secondary stars? Will GRIEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!

@zachvigil5893 5 ай бұрын

Just curious, why is there so much excitement over a SGC 9.5. But when you guys talk about BGS 9.5's, it's automatically like beckett doesn't know how to run a company using 9.5 grades. Their stuck in the past. Blah blah blah. Come on now. Then you praise PSA for being top dog and they screwed up half your order about a month ago with authentic grades instead of number grades. And the only reason you guys give for such high praise is that they pump out the most graded cards in a month. If their pumping out so many, you don't think the quality control aspect of things is taking a hit and tarnishing their reputation, especially when your order comes back with the wrong with authentic grades. Also I do enjoy the content. Gives us old card nerds something to talk about.

@hawk-du1yl 5 ай бұрын

Geoff, is another PSA lap dog.

@Dubz_Cards 5 ай бұрын

Dont bother sending the sgc 9.5 (crack) to PSA they will give it 8

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Bahahaha

@15DurangoRT 9 күн бұрын

The coloring on the Isaiah Thomas is much more prominent on the 8. Maybe that's why it got an 8, the color was too deep.

@AdamKleis 5 ай бұрын

Never been a set builder, and a $500 Larry drew base card could be a reason why....

@HIGH535 5 ай бұрын

you dont have to do a psa 10 set

@chefboyarede11 5 ай бұрын

The yelling and screaming gets old.

@hushg2000 5 ай бұрын

Ridiculous those cheap ass cards are 12k get out of here 😂for that money you can buy actual autos. Ridiculous.. I have dozens of those damn cards sitting in my shoe boxes with the og gums still in there. BS with folks hypebeasting garbage very common cards

@peterhamouroudis7467 5 ай бұрын

Be a real man and start busting open various 1984 star basketball bags w/ Jordan! 😮😮😮

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

If I had one I would just keep it sealed....like this box I wouldn't have opened it...and I have 25k of these 87 cards

@BETTERBEST12 5 ай бұрын

How much could I get for a 1986 kareem abdul jabbar bccg 9

@timothybeisner8853 5 ай бұрын

If that Joe Barry Carroll is worth 4K then my hole collection is worth $5 Billion Dollars!!!! Do You Want To Buy It??? I want all the $$$$ I Can Get!!!! That's Called Shill Bidding At It's Best!!!! That Card is probably only worth like $50!!! Cause a common is only worth about $0.50 and, a PSA 10 is only 10X that cost!!!!

@hawk-du1yl 5 ай бұрын

Blind reveal LOL you put the post it notes on the cards. I guess you did it without seeing the grades LMAO

@hawk-du1yl 5 ай бұрын

@zachsabbath1 Jr. come up from Mom and Dads basement for your Ritalin. If you are good they will take you for Ice Cream later and let you watch more sportscardschiester videos.

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

Nah Tpot did

@stargazer4625 5 ай бұрын

Why did that larry bird get a 8 from PSA. Looked good to me

@hawk-du1yl 5 ай бұрын

Because Nate Turner was not with him when he submitted them.

@michaelcarter3127 5 ай бұрын

When in doubt, crack it out

@DRFOSTER82 5 ай бұрын

Go Gators! 🐊

@Artikulit 5 ай бұрын

Two grown men playing touch butt while obsessing over pieces of paper with imaginary grades 😂

@velvetbear7184 5 ай бұрын

The whole scam of grading is all that’s completely wrong with this hobby! All about greed and status nothing else. The slab hoarding like this is the same issue that caused the so called junk wax era and almost took the hobby under….

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

And don't forget the Republicans! Why I say we oughta vote marxists ahem democract cuz making profit = EVIL

@brianoneal2547 4 ай бұрын

A velvet bear never costs much....Bahahafukinghaha

@jeffleary1598 5 ай бұрын

Berry for the win

@bigsmooth7998 5 ай бұрын

Joe Barely Cares, except for today.

@Aspen6Actual 5 ай бұрын

Honestly I think BGS is the best for sports cards. Maybe not cost wise but definitely trust them way more than PSA.

@johnwayne9828 5 ай бұрын

I dont trust any of them as their standards are all over the place, but BGS has the best slabs and it's not even close. They secure the cards in the slab better than the others and their slab is like a brick.