Blind guardian Doom

[@markojudas]

this song is so good. my love for this band reborn, not that it ever falter... it just burns much brighter.

[@FiveFourOne87l1]

I didn't know about this song because it was a bonus I guess. I'm glad actually because it was a great surprise on a day I was feeling especially down. I love this band, it always takes me far away from my problems and greets me again throughout the years! Each time I revisit their works it is like visiting an old friend. Timeless and not bound too this realm, blind guardian opens doors into another world for me and I am eternally greatful.

[@-Ruben]

It feels weird that great songs like this one and Tides of War are hidden. They aren't even on most of the lists of this album 😅

[@antoninuslarpus7107]

Well, both of them were only known to us after the 2018 re-issue of the album.

[@iStuwie]

This song just sounds nice on my ears, especially the chorus!

[@Torzelan]

Hansi recently confirmed on episode 10 of "powerful. a power metal podcast" that 'Doom' was one of two songs (along with 'The Tides of War'[?]) that they didn't manage to finish for Nightfall in Middle-Earth, and (!!!) that they will be on their new vinyl version of NiME (hopefully later this year!)! Doom - which in this version was of course altered to fit 'Beyond the Red Mirror' better - will have its original lyrics there. Can't wait!

[@TheKiteLegacy]

New vinyl of NiME? Are they doing this with the rest of their releases too? Forgive me, I'm not exactly tapped into Blind Guardian news as of late, but I would KILL to have both that and a few others on vinyl!

[@Torzelan]

They're currently taking preorders for a new run of their first four albums (media.nuclearblast.de/shoplanding/2018/BlindGuardian/reissues.html) and, as mentioned, Hansi spoke explicitly about NiME too (kzbin.info/www/bejne/f53GpWOGgNuUqdU) "hopefully at the end of the year". So things are looking good, seems reasonable to speculate that soon after this first batch of four we can look forward to not only NiME but also Imaginations etc!

[@TheKiteLegacy]

Torzelan Very exciting, thank you!

[@WInoIonlW]

they sould have made a double Cd in the past 1998 then it will have fit with The Tides of War i will have help the album in the past

[@VictorBrandão-e8e]

I'm about to listen to the podcast now, but could you tell me which part he mentions about the subject? thanks!

[@AntonioGazzaneo91]

And this should be a Bonustrack?Seriously?This is an awesome song, thanks Marcus

[@Golem29]

As much as I like it, I think it's still the weakest song on the album. Which isn't saying much because it's fantastic from start to finish. I wish the bit at 1:32 was the chorus

[@adrianmorgan6009]

It's a bonustrack because it was supposed to be included in nightfall in middle-earth.

[@moyatheomen]

This song is a Master Piece of Blind Guardian!!!! Majestic!!!!

[@jackarnold7213]

+Juan Carlos Moyetones Hidalgo I think so too.

[@moyatheomen]

Awesome! in this song Blind Guardian sounds more dark!!! excellent and great song! of course, it should be Hansi and Co. Up the Bards!!!!

[@ummum]

Thank you. Why was that song not on the album? I hate Bonustracks. It is unfair. Very good.

[@perfectlypopsicle492]

I don't mind bonus tracks on re-release albums, but when they do it like this it really takes advantage of fans who pre-ordered the first one. They released one CD, then a second one with a bonus track, Distant Memories, then a big fancy third one with yet another bonus track, Doom. I refuse to buy it until a version with all tracks is readily available. I'm hoping they have the full album at a reasonable price at the show in a few months. Epica did it even worse with their last album. They had the first release, followed by five different versions with five different bonus tracks. That means if you bought the first one you would need six copies of the album to get all tracks... SIX!! ridiculous. ...and they wonder why people download.

[@jackarnold7213]

+ummum Blame Nuclear Blast.

[@Hailstorm273]

+MRGood Distant Memories is on the Earbook edition alongside Doom.

[@perfectlypopsicle492]

+Hailstorm273 heh, yes it is, I didn't mean to imply it isn't. The problem with the earbook is it's triple the price and not readily available (really only on the Nuclear Blast site). It wasn't even available at their concert. Honestly, I probably would've bought it if they'd been selling it there.

[@Hailstorm273]

Yeah, that thing was expensive. I think I've seen some copies on eBay that have this song as well, which were much cheaper.

[@DanielMadeiraMM]

Damn! I got addicted on this song!

[@AngelFHMusic]

Imaginations From the Other Side at 1:06

[@Jacut]

Probably the best song of the album overall with The Ninth Wave, but it was only included as a bonus track... Poor Marcus ! Whatever, I made it my morning alarm ringtone so I get to listen to it every day ;)

[@rivlesbeware]

Holy shit thank you best track ever! I bought the cd but don't have this song. It completes the album

[@Leyrann]

+Greg Hurst I prefer Grand Parade, but this song certainly is good too. Concerning Blind Guardian (and mostly Beyond the Red Mirror) I feel extremely spoiled though. The worst song of the album would be better than average on nearly any other metal album.

[@Leyrann]

+Leyrann The more I listen to this song, the more I like it... Not quite as much as some other songs on the album, but it's amazing anyways.

[@thecreator625]

@@Leyrann Well, first of all, in my opinion it is the best song of that album. Secondly, it's actually an unfinished song that was meant to be in Nightfall in Middle-Earth with slightly changed lyrics. Thirdly, both versions are awesome. It's really only the lyrics that are different and not by all that much, but the difference really carries meaning and is impactful.

[@celticfrost86]

the best song of the album is the bonus track

[@smnfdf53257]

Yea this one and Distant Memories. It's depressing how Blind Guardian has changed over the years. Hopefully these new times will cause Blind Guardian to make much better music in their future.

[@alphacritter5398]

@@smnfdf53257 what are you blabbering about, this album was fucking epic, and most all bands die out quicker by barely changing, id say they are creating masterpieces with their own sounds, so progressively they get somewhere to fit an album/song in a unique tone and arrangement, ninth wave was epic, loved at the edge of time, sacred mind and the finale and true end, grand parade and doom, truly a fitting sound for a concept album sequel to imaginations

[@smnfdf53257]

@@alphacritter5398 I'm sick of fantasy tales. Imaginations from the Other Side was not bad overall, some songs better than the others, but this new shit is way too much fantasy shit to the point of absurdity. Listen to Judas Priest instead, they actually sing about real fucking life . I end my venting. I was the biggest Blind Gaurdian fan ever , but At the Edge of Time was OK , I liked the direction, but Beyond the Red Mirror was a step too far. I started listening to Judas Priest and Ozzy more. Everything before At the Edge of Time was pretty much fair.

[@smnfdf53257]

@@thecreator625 I would have never thought of that, thank you !! But now, what are your sources? I'll have to study up on it

[@thecreator625]

@@smnfdf53257 Nevermind what I said, I misread something. Anyway, what you're saying is more something about personal taste and doesn't have that much to do with the band itself. Because as a band, Blind Guardian is staying true to its roots while also developing. Like almost anything, you can outgrow an individual band or your taste in music can change. But that's what you can expect from Blind Guardian. Fantasy/Mythology related songs. Nevermind how much they've done about Tolkien's Middle Earth, almost every single song in At the Edge of Time (which you've listed as a "good" album despite preferring realism in music) is a reference to a specific fantasy book or series. Wheel to Time and Tanelorn literally have the names of these books in their title. Ride into Obsession also is about the Wheel of Time books, in the game Sacred 2, Blind Guardian are featured as characters in a concert singing Sacred Worlds... If you prefer realism in music, that's your opinion. I can appreciate both. That's fine and all, but don't expect others to respond kindly when you pretty much say that the band itself sucks with how much they've changed. That's asking for backlash. Not that you'll get much of it here since barely anyone comments on this particular video.

[@forefather100]

this and distant memories best songs in the album !!! and both songs are bonus tracks ??? im hearing good old guardian in this one !!

[@alphacritter5398]

don't forget sacred mind, ik its not like their old but my god that tempo change and intensity at the beginning changed from light intro to intense harmony of chorus and I really loved it, but yes distant memories and this were very great reminders that blind guardian doesn't look like they're slowing down especially grand parade being a bigger ending with outstanding performance. this and twilight on middle earth are my favorites

[@casaldeveco]

Cause it is a leftover from NIME

[@jackarnold7213]

Best Blind Guardian song released, period.

[@ogrelaca]

Can it be bonustrack? A LEAD track! One of the band's best :)

[@pgnfz]

THE DOOM guy

[@alphacritter5398]

No, more like morgoth, aka morgray the dark

[@tylercherneski1805]

Off the top of my head this is a BG top 5 with And then There Was Silence, Time Stands Still, Mirror Mirror, and Somewhere Far Beyond

[@mikejames5520]

WHAT THE HELL? this song is amazing as hell! I never knew about this song!

[@davobard]

Why isn't this song on the iTunes version??? Damn you bonus tracks!!!

[@alphacritter5398]

davobard it's all good, just pirate it

[@maddskillz1453]

1:00 that scream was awesome

[@danielguinea2971]

Maybe because this sounds more familiar to their old stuff they decided not to include It in an album which tells a story and must sound in a different way

[@-Ruben]

This is from the nightfall album. They couldn't add it as a bonus track so they did some things and the song ended up as a bonus track for this album.

[@Thez0mb13s1ay3r]

Thank you so much!!

[@TheIcyPanda]

Day 18.5. Interlude: Beyond The Red Mirror

[@j.e1334]

I think the song is about Sauron promising to carry on the work of his former master, Morgoth, after he is sealed into the Door of Night.

[@alphacritter5398]

no morded is the fallen son and he's considered like a playing piece to the nine whilst they play their games so he decides that instead of playing his part that he'll destroy them and the Savior since the destiny he was given was never what he wanted, forced to be labeled a tyrant instead of a king I think...that's what I got out of mordeds song on imaginations from the other side which is the first part of this story, but this song does seem to leave out a definite end suggesting the next album might follow what happens whilst he's in the world because the nine said he is destined to claim the throne so he might still have a sliver of a chance but I do not know yet...

[@alphacritter5398]

this song is about the chosen one alone in discordia as his army or people sealed the door behind him after he jumped in and he has to face the fallen son by himself

[@ahums16]

+Brandon Wheeler Oooooh could you please point me to sources that explain the story in this level of detail? Listening to the lyrics I've only gotten so far ~ my perceptions' changed over time as to what it could mean, quite a few things and stuff, where this story was all written by them.

[@alphacritter5398]

ahums16 the entire album is a continuation of imaginations from the other side

[@ahums16]

Brandon Wheeler Oh, I know it's a 'sequel' to it all, leaving off with the boy looking into the mirror to the other dimension, this album proceeding with 'what if he didn't enter'. It's not the entire album either, for instance 'The Script for my Requiem', which is about a soldier in the Crusades who travels to the Holy Land, and struggles to his very core with the morality of it all, and suffers from PTSD of the things they did in the name of a God who is loving. Do you know any details about Beyond the Red Mirror? Like what's the ending's Grand Parade and Doom? I've had several interpretations of everything but lately it sounds like the universe of no gods is prevailing over the one with gods, and they're happy with their 'enlightenment' initially but they're then sealed away into damnation with their false savior by the very forces they denied. I do not know if this includes the fate of the 'heroes' or not. And often times the songs seem to switch between the viewpoints of both universes and it's hard to distinguish who's the protagonist and who's the antagonist since it seems both sides have their specific labels for everything good and evil. Also the themes of Sheol (I believe is the place Hansi speaks of? I forget it's name), but I remember it's an ancient form of Hell where everyone good and evil went, and it wasn't a place of happiness but misery. 'Take a look and see it's all the same' is a repeating theme when it's brought up, like both sides no matter what are heading towards this fate and it can't be stopped, it doesn't matter and that this truth is 'a demon, the cruelest of all'. Do you know anything of this?? I've been wondering about this since this album was released almost two years ago. X3

[@maligod2439]

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[@maligod2439]

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[@maironaulendil972]

Why is this song not on my Beyond The Red Mirror CD?

[@gabrielm.5261]

Mairon Aulendil because this song is a bonus track of the japanese edition of this album (sorry for my bad english, i am brazilian)

[@Hailstorm273]

What are your thoughts on the other version of this song (from the Nightfall reissue)? Three videos of it were recently posted to KZbin.

[@Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist]

I prefer the Nightfall version

[@Drago5899]

Am I missing Something? I have the album (pre-ordered it), I don't have this song. Distant Memories is still the best song on the album, but I am genuinely pissed if this is some special-special edition..

[@KnightNC]

yeah same. I got the limited digi book with distant memories, but I found a "special-special" edition on nuclear blast that comes with 2 discs, including distant memories and doom.

[@ahums16]

Yup, it's a special-special edition, to my knowledge only the $80 Earbook [a large book with a lot of art, lyrics, and some story explanations but still not too-in-depth from what I've heard] comes with Doom. : /

[@indyman000]

This version I heard is from the Japanese import of red mirror, I think

[@alphacritter5398]

can someone tell me where this fits in the story?

[@jackarnold7213]

+Brandon Wheeler It's an epilogue after the Red Mirror is sealed. Whilst what actually happens in the song is up to interpretation, I think that, due to the lyrics, the worlds are now being destroyed.

[@alphacritter5398]

+Jack Arnold oh ok

[@alphacritter5398]

@@jackarnold7213 actually i figured it out, the main character went through the mirror and helped defeat the tyrant but then the others ran through the mirror thinking they were going to conquer discordia and ended up either slaughtering or being defeated then when the main character tried to go back they sealed the mirror out of fear and left him to die in another world, ravaged by war to the point its unlivable in, thus doom

[@patriarch.9237]

It could also be a song about hurin and his children, fits well

[@l.hendriks93]

I think this song is more in tune with Nightfall in Middle Earth. It's possibly about Fëanor, who doomed his children

[@MarcusRigonati]

Is a single ???? I can't find this song on iTunes

[@michaelkintzlinger2266]

its a bonus track

[@alphacritter5398]

+Michael Kintzlinger and now it's being downloaded *copies to KZbin to mp3*

[@tylercherneski1805]

One of the best songs theyve ever put out. So sad theyre so bad now.

[@joshsquidlyburgh5820]

what's this one about? I got the rest, but not this one. also, I swear I've heard miracle machine before.

[@perfectlypopsicle492]

+josh squidlyburgh - Think of it as banter between Arthur and Mordred as they're trapped together on the wrong side of the mirror. (Mordred is seriously pissed... "murder the dawn" indeed)

[@casaldeveco]

+MRGood I would rather say this song is about Fëanor, his kin and Mandos curse. This song was supposed to be part of NIME and afterwards to be included in an EP with NIME leftovers (as Harvest of Sorrow) which was never released due to Hansi's ear sickness

[@perfectlypopsicle492]

+Juan Vergara Therein lies the beauty of music. It can be interpreted in very different ways by different people. I may disagree with you, but I love that you have such a wildly contrasting read on it. I disagree primarily because I'd be surprised that they would put a Middle Earth track on an album more akin to Imaginations From the Other Side. Also, there actually was a song called Harvest of Sorrows completed. It was included as a bonus track on the re-release of NIME, also A Night at the Opera. It's not about Feanor though. I originally thought it was about the vanishing of Melian, but I think it's based on Turin.

[@jackarnold7213]

+josh squidlyburgh I think that it's an epilogue after the Mirror is sealed.

[@Hailstorm273]

+Jack Arnold The band did confirm that this song is an outtake from Nightfall, but also said that this version was a rewrite.