Blizzard's Controversial Change and Diablo 4's Goodwill

[@mrJHexx]

Blizzard can only do that legal trick in the US, in EU there is a better consumer protection law, that cannot be over ruled by a eula.

[@Vampyrr]

A lot of times these EULAs dont even hold up in US courts

[@chrisanderson7820]

EULAs don't work in the US either, you can't sign away legal rights in pretty much any western country with even semi-average written laws.

[@kylesmith987]

There is a lot of weird times in the US where you are expected to sign a contract of sorts that doesn't actually hold up in court. The amount of times I've applied for a job where they want you to sign some type of NDA or non compete contract where you take it too a lawyer and they will tell you that it straight up would not hold up in court and is not actually legally binding. Personally i think a lot of these EULAs and Contracts are more meant to scare someone in to not doing the thing as the threat of legal ramification is more then enough for most average people in the US.

[@sg4real]

Diablo 4: 2:57 Diablo 3: 24:03 WoW: 24:33 Overwatch: 27:45 Blizzard new license agreement : 29:18 Helldivers 2: 31:35 PoE: 34:45 Mass Effect: 35:24 Gearbox: 36:19 Marvel Rivals: 37:13 Thanks Rhykker, always looking forward to your videos!

[@grumdiddlydoo3559]

Just FYI, he had time stamps in the video description.

[@richardm5448]

​@@grumdiddlydoo3559while this is true, seeing as how this person didn't know that and posted them I'm fairly certain he's not alone in not realizing that. Although in every single video I've seen by ryker he always says in the beginning that time stamps are provided lol

[@noface5150]

@@grumdiddlydoo3559 and there are little splits in the bar, showing exactly where the Sections transition, and even telling you whish Section you're currently hovering over.....

[@therealzahyra]

Chapters are already in the description. You can see that when the play bar on the video has notches on it. When you see those notches, look for the breakdown in the description

[@rennaaa6667]

the helltide change is what i'm most excited about honestly. 1-50 leveling before felt so boring.

[@michaelmayhem350]

Yeah doing hell tide from 1-100 sounds way better than doing it 50-100

[@someguy1141]

@@michaelmayhem350 You hit helltides hard pre-nerf as well huh? :) I still have nightmares

[@michaelmayhem350]

@@someguy1141 yes onbviously nm dungeons (or currently nm Vaults) are the place to level up but upgrading requires items only dropped from hell tide so until you're stacked with BiS you're doing helltides too

[@someguy1141]

@@michaelmayhem350 Oh when I said nightmares I was referring to the trauma of opening 4 chests for steel in an hour back before they buffed the drop rates lol. Was just an antidotal thing. I know it's hard to convey in text my bad.

[@DanielgunKim]

I just feel like this will be more fun than 1-50 in dohamine tunnels

[@ALIVESCREENS]

If there is no ownership then it can't be piracy

[@richardm5448]

Lol, que "modern solutions to modern problems" meme

[@senquidam6318]

Also piracy is necessary for Denuvo games to get a playable performance. 😂

[@Phantom-kc9ly]

​@@senquidam6318on 10 year old hardware maybe

[@KeithElliott-zd8cx]

@@Phantom-kc9ly nah, people were having issues with dragons dogma 2 on modern, if not 'cost 2k' rigs.

[@GeneralRenz]

Wrong. Games are distributed on a license. When you pay a game publisher money you are paying for the limited licence (that they can revoke per the terms of the license agreement) to play the game. That can be subverted through piracy.

[@Freestyle80]

why is Diablo 4 treated like its a life or death situation, if its good play it, if its not move on you dont need to hate watch D4 content and harass others who play the game, what a weird community

[@norscout3031]

.05 BlizzBucks have been added to your account

[@nicksacomano2608]

Agreed. Truth is most games eventually get to their potential these days. It's just frustrating cause hype to release date can be two years and then another two years to patch out the bad.

[@jackbadger3976]

most people who comment in forums and on youtube get their dopamine fixes from joining in the hate pile-on.

[@harrynazarian3184]

Well said. I think when they say life or death situation, they mean for New Blizzard.

[@Dj2xP]

New to Rhykker? He's never going to move on from Blizzard/Diablo

[@benjoe1993]

Love the fact that druids get shouts as well, bringing them closer and closer to barbarians and it fits the lore so well that they were one tribe a long-long time ago.

[@booksnbooze7796]

And it leaves it open to making legendaries / uniques that use the shout mechanic and is open to both classes.

[@sonoftristram]

@@booksnbooze7796 oh as a barb main I'm loving this idea!

[@Ludak021]

Druids need more early game (before lvl 50) damage, and barb needs "unforgiving" aura, like in D3. I get it that a lot of you are fine with barb, but D3 barb was way more versatile and stronger regardless of numbers on the screen.

[@BrianRox]

@@Ludak021 true about barb, they also keep nerfing them both (d3, d4 barb) leaving less builds.

[@richardm5448]

@@BrianRox but, but, but, dust devils!!

[@joshwent]

Even the D4 devs agree that putting skills on loot was a mistake. Now with aspects going entirely into the codex, they've basically just created a supplemental "skill tree" that's not on the skill tree.

[@richardm5448]

Also making the codex actually worth something where you keep the stats that are were on the item instead of always being the lowest end of the stats is amazing. I might actually play for more than 3 hours after this update now that I don't lose half my work and RNG lol

[@sethmclean8334]

Agree and disagree. They kind of doubled down with tempering aspects being mostly skill augmenting. Right now I think they have the best of both worlds. Less friction for players to use and easily extensible from season to season via new aspects and manuals.

[@sy-ky_buddy4603]

When did they say this?

[@richardm5448]

@@sy-ky_buddy4603 if your reply was to my comment, in the last video ryker did about the devs update he covers it. Pull the aspect off the item it will keep the stats the aspect is at and if you find a better one it will update it. So you can find a maxed aspect and actually keep the maxed aspect after this big update. If it wasn't for mine then my bad haha

[@Fulbor]

One of the things done to get closer to d2 to get those players to play d4 even though it will never happen because d2 players already have their game of choice, they will never switch

[@JackOfHearts42]

Regarding the EULA... this is why I don't use DnDBeyond... They can't take away my physical books.

[@ViSongs482]

The best part of s4 is... that we dont even know what the seasonal mechanic is yet, and it was done by the s2 team.

[@KDoodleNoodle99]

They actually mixed members of the two teams since the even team good odd team bad memes

[@ckwi2245]

21:15 I'm not sure we can write off Disobedience as a nerf yet. "Armor stacks no longer fall off independently. They now refresh or reset at the same time." While the maximum armor has been reduced, the average amount currently held may be quite a bit higher in many situations. Since based on this note it may be reasonable to assume we might be able to maintain uptime on the full 40% rather than a constantly changing amount between 1.1%-66%. Based on the wording I read of the changes, we should still have 4s to add a stack, and it will refresh THE WHOLE STACK not just add a timer for 1 stack. I think in practice this may feel more like a buff than a nerf. How often were we really maintaining 66 hits every 4 seconds? Now the notes mentioned nothing about the stack rate changing, so we have 2 possibilities here, they either maintained the Stack count of 66 (25/66-40/66 which is 0.3787878... to 0.606060.... which is the current stack counts applied to 25-40) or the edited the number of hits to a more digestible number like 40 Stacks which would be .625 (25/40) to 1.0 (40/40). I have a hunch this is compressing the upper and lower limits of how much armor we are getting from Disobedience thus making the average armor held at any given time higher. It will be worth testing how it feels in the PTR.

[@phatymcdaddy]

The druid and sorc changes look good. Looks to open up a lot of builds, pending tuning of course

[@rsstello]

Necro too! And Wudijo showed some changes on Rogue that also got me very excited to try next season, with a grenades build

[@GoldenOne2422]

"D4" and "lots of builds" cant be used in the same sentence

[@georgen5882]

That’s how I feel, there is no way their skill twig is going to have “lots of builds”. Each class will have 2-3 builds that are viable to do anything with, which is pathetic. They need to add 2-3 more classes, set items, rework the paragon and skill trees and then I’ll consider downloading it again. Until then? No, thank you.

[@booksnbooze7796]

I'm stuck between a nade build and an arrow storm one.

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

@@GoldenOne2422You seized the opportunity to make a funny! Haha! That was pure gold! 😂

[@BobMotster]

Rhykker: "Are we hyping ourselves too much?" Also Rhykker: Underscores all the awesome stuff coming in season 4 whilst having a huge smile on his face the whole time.

[@olivergottkehaskamp3369]

Yeah this is giving off a weird vibe, particularly after that general news video with that clickbait title along the lines of "I can't believe Blizzard did THIS" ... 🙄

[@gameburn178]

Rhykk has identified himself with this game a little too much. Can' t give it up. I haven't played D4 since giving the game its last chance in season2. Dead game for me. Cant imagine buying D5.

[@Luke973T]

And your point is? He isn't hyping it up.

[@craventiger]

What you've laid out, the many, MANY changes coming to D4 have me genuinely excited. Let's the good times roll!

[@Crazozourus]

Terms about not being able to join a class action lawsuit by using a given product do not correlate with most countries consumer rights and are another ATVI baloney to scare people from pursuing legal action against them. BTW, you can cancel your sub through your bank, PayPal or whichever method you use except tokens.

[@SirWolf2018]

If Blizzard think they can screw with us, they forgot that we still have the power of simply not buying their products.

[@draxorgarr7195]

Never buying anything from blizzard now. No expansion to d4 for me sadly. It realy sucks.

[@tlee656]

Let's not forget that this isn't Blizzard doing this. This all happened after MS acquired them. Make no mistake, this is a MS change. They'll need to lower the costs of these "rentals" if they want to retain users. We're paying full retail for something digital, that we have limited access too, based on our connection speed/location. Many will choose to go play titles with companies that don't do this.

[@Crazozourus]

@@tlee656 True. Even MS have to munch on BlackRock and Vanguard dx. And those conglomerates love when people own nothing. MS have billions tethered to them and have to show that they're compliant with their "We are forcing behaviours." agenda.

[@kylesmith987]

yeah this is definitely a scare tactic as most average Americans cannot be bothered or afford to take legal action. This is definitely not legally binding as it is your legal right in America to be able to bring forth a lawsuit for basically anything regardless of it being a class action lawsuit or an individual lawsuit.

[@Nob1ej0n]

That Banana Phone joke hit so unexpectedly it took me a second to realize you just said "Ring, Ring, Ring". 😆 Well done.

[@marcturmel924]

That new user agreement would be illegal on most country...

[@NapFloridian]

Not in the US where all illegal stuff is... Legal

[@booksnbooze7796]

It's non-enforcable in the US. You cannot waive your right to seeking judication through the court system. And even if they could enforce it, you just need to meet with Blizzard lawyers and say, "I disagree, see you in court" and that'll be it.

[@ittadakimaho]

Also illegal usually means you could take legal action against that thing. Instead .. it's simply just not relevant. They can write what they want, your rights and the legal circumstances do not change one bit because they write this nonsense and force you to 'accept'. It's simply void by default in those countries.

[@kylesmith987]

It's technically not illegal for blizzard to right it into their contract but it is also not legally binding. In America it is your legal/constitutional right to be able to be able to bring forth a lawsuit for basically anything and nothing allows you to sign away your rights. This clause is basically a scare tactic to disincentivize laymen from pursuing a lawsuit.

[@NapFloridian]

@@kylesmith987 not if you sign a waver, which you just did. Best example, Florida healthcare, before you go and see a doctor, you MUST sign a waver, same for hospitals... So if something goes wrong you cannot sue... If you don't sign that waver doctors want even see you. So don't say thing which are only halfway true. Yes its a thing in the constitution, but... and here it is where the shaddy and shitty BUT comes in... If you "Willingly" sign a paper that right is "WAVED"

[@S1nwar]

i dont think about D4 at all until season 4 releases

[@Studycase3000]

As always, great reporting Rhykker!

[@syzuna_]

I've never imagined Rhykker being the sensible one on the S4 Patch in terms of managing expectations :D

[@colby8104]

Even the biggest of shills get warn out from constant disappointment

[@MasterJohnam]

He kinda has to be because he can't yell D4 hype without coming off to the community as disingenuous - most people turned their back on D4 long time ago. End game meta never quite be as interesting as D2.

[@motherfucker42069]

Back when the game was bad he would be loudly positive, now that the game is turning around he's transitioning to d4bad. The hate click game is strong with this one.

[@unnero1]

Diablo 4: They can scramble whatever they want, until they increase skill bar size to 7-8 with a dedicated skill slot for ults, they can gtfo and be ignored as usual. 6 skill slots is beyond pathetic.

[@Kynmarcher5000]

The EULA changes have existed in the legal terms since the 90s. I can find identical language in my 1998 Starcraft Manual. As much as folks are jumping on this and claiming it's a new, horrible thing. It's not. You never 'owned' the games, you purchased a license, granted to you by the activation key. You owned the physical media, mind you, but not the game itself. And likewise in the 1998 Starcraft Manual I can find the same terms with regards to EULA acceptance. The only difference? In 1998 the return period was 30 days, not 14. What this outrage has proven to me is that there are an alarming number of people who do not bother to read the EULA agreements they sign. Which really is a problem, because if they're not bothering to read EULAs and get stung by relatively harmless terms that are in there. What potentially painful terms are they overlooking in other contracts they agree to?

[@azmalguthek4502]

Or you know maybe just care about protecting consumers instead of corporations.

[@DeputyFish]

you can return starcraft back then if they changed the EULA you cant now. thats the difference. there is no returning the game if they choose to change it. meaning you lose the 70$ you spent. which is illegal you cant buy a game or chair or whatever and then there like were actually changing our contract and if you dont accept you lose your game or chair or whatever. its illegal.

[@grumdiddlydoo3559]

It shouldn't be shocking people don't read EULA. What should be shocking is why so many of EULA are bloated and/or written in a way to intimidate and confuse people to not read them, or not be able to understand them. Or just the simple notion that we fail to ask why we can't trust society to just sell a game without all these legal strings attached. I understand part of the problem is the suing culture. Which is not helped by court cases swaying in favor of the most absurd scenarios. Because they don't use rational judgment, and cave to loopholes, it causes company's to make these unnecessary large EULA/TOS.

[@DarkepyonX]

​@@DeputyFish Incorrect "All sales final" is and has been legal in most of the world and last I checked has been around at least 50 years (I remember it when I was a child 😂) It's not illegal or new , people are just derps

[@DarkepyonX]

​@@azmalguthek4502 before EULAs people would file lawsuits and other things on trivial dumb crap en masse like "Game is too hard" and want a refund + 1000$ ,this also became a thing to stop companies from buying then copying game , tweaking it and reselling it . Companies were being hit by 100s to 1000s of bogus lawsuits and issue pre EULA days . I know someone who sued ID software because it made their kid cry 😂

[@AcidGlow]

I gave up on D4 back in september

[@TheLordDragonX]

After its horrible launch, I told my buds that it needed another year in the oven. It's been a year. All these fixes, and additions, and removals of unnecessary things, and more dungeons, and more goodies are showing up now. Well, let's see if the yeast became proper bread, or deflates to a slimy goop at the bottom of the pan.

[@therealzahyra]

It's been less than a year

[@Molson2889]

@@therealzahyrahow long has it been?

[@UniversalCypher]

​@@Molson2889 - game releases June 6th 2023. Do the math.

[@davetheflave2570]

What bothers me the most about Diablo IV is that you have to grind and grind to create a “Meta” build. I wish the game would allow you to create builds using different skills, abilities or elements together. Everything is so focused around meta builds which takes away from the user being able to have a creative and explorative mind. These games should have countless “meta” builds where you can essentially let your imagination run wild and create a very strong OP build for whatever play style you want. Anyway thanks for listening everyone and I think I’ll try and play one more time when the new season drops.

[@Tarquinn2049]

I have never made a meta build as far as I know. And have been doing just fine. Just have a rough plan of what I want to sort of try with a character, and interpret my way through that over the course of levelling. I don't look up what items exist for what classes, so sometimes a unique will drop that is close enough to my plan that it fits, but requires changing some things around. I've completed every season, and killed every uber solo. I haven't done amazingly well on the leaderboards, I'm only in the top 1000 generally by weeks end. Mostly the game doesn't quite have as much hidden depth, almost everything is possible to figure out with in-game information. In my opinion, games are always more fun when you don't look stuff up online. Figure it out yourself, only look something up if you are getting so stuck that it isn't fun anymore, and even then, try to limit scope as much as possible to only information that will help with the one thing you are stuck on.

[@MawxDesigns]

I’m hyped to finally play Sorc and be able to use teleport and Leap on controller (controlled distance with the thumb stick). Yes I have a Pc too but couching it on my 70 inch TV is just too good! Thanks for the amazing weekly content makes my Saturdays!

[@insertnamehere4419]

Most people don't even care any more. Pure apathy. That's worse than anger or hyping your self up to be let down. Diablo 4 is ran by morons.

[@PizzaTime727]

Fix or not fixed, at least they're giving D4 this big effort. A lot will depend on how the PTR and respective feedback/changes go. Others are hyped, others were hurt so bad they just want it to fail no matter what (go play something you like instead). I'll be trying out the changes for sure and see how it goes. It's not like there's a shortage of games to enjoy if it turns out bad.

[@bonelessthincrust]

My honest take: D4 is dead. Wait for PoE2. D4 devs only know how to adjust damage numbers, enemy numbers, resource numbers, etc. They never make unique changes to the game or the classes or their playstyle. PoE2 has ABSOLUTELY CRAZY BUILD CUSTOMIZATION. D4 would have to be redesigned from the ground up in order to compete, and D4 is currently in "B Team" live service, meaning they don't actually create anything. The "A Team" (loosely used term in this case, nothing A about them) has moved on to other projects.

[@d4rksyndicate]

illegal that's what that is, you cant "sign you out" from actually take them to court, at least in the majority of EU.

[@NapFloridian]

Shows a lot about the US of A doesn't it

[@DeputyFish]

you can do the same in the US. but is anyone gonna know. we aint got the money for that shit

[@Lumlancer]

i am from eu and i didnt get any new eula so far. Since it is not legal in the eu i guess they wont change the eula for any eu country.

[@kylesmith987]

@@NapFloridian This is also not legal in the US. This is just a scare tactic as blizzard can write whatever they want in their EULA but its not actually legally binding. In America it is your constitutional right be able to file a lawsuit for basically anything. This is covered under the first amendment of the bill of rights. You also cannot sign away your rights in America.

[@NapFloridian]

@@kylesmith987 incorrect... Have you even been to a doctor in the US of A... Especially in Florida? If you don't sign a "Voluntary" waver that you will not sue, the doctors or hospitals will not admit you. The law says "you can sue, its your right" but if you voluntarily sign a waver to "wave" that privilege. Yes, I know its shaddy as hell... Welcome to the US

[@Shadowshael]

I am hoping that the D4 changes are going to be good, but Blizzard have written the book on Over Promising/Under Delivering, so we will just have to wait and see until 2 months into S4 to see what they actually get out from these patch notes.

[@finraziel]

Pfff Rhykker... I'm just calmly putting away my groceries here while listening to you when out of nowhere "BANANAPHONE!" 😳😬 Seriously startled me 😂

[@GuruChaz]

It will be Season 8 before this game is anywhere near what people want. You should just face reality. They don't have enough programmers to fix this whole game in a short period of time. It took the Diablo 3 team two years to fix that game. I'm not saying give up on it but just know what you're in for.

[@fedord01]

I wouldnt hold your breath on the resource on kill being a "huge QOL buff". Knowing blizzard, it will be something like "lucky: 5% chance on kill to get 1-2 resource" when it takes 40-50 resource to cast a skill lmao.

[@karltannerofginalley1428]

1 - 5% chance every 6th time you kill an injured skeleton with over 30 - 50 resource that you gain 1 - 2 resource

[@sethmclean8334]

I guess we will see, but the patch notes make it sound like straight resource on kill, since vuln on lucky hit called out lucky hit. Add to that greater affixes and master working and it seems like there may be some good sustain

[@jordick8427]

For Diablo 4, Season 4 will probably be just the same. Their real money cosmetic store receives steady updates, which no one is asking for. While they're only now increasing the max camera zoom distance, which the players have been asking for almost a year now. It just shows where Blizzard's priorities are, and it's disgusting to me.

[@alexbarcan4705]

you're a idiot if you think no one asks for or buys them. plenty of people buys those cosmetics, otherwise they wouldn't make them.

[@georgen5882]

I’m not defending blizzard by any stretch(this game to me is an absolute disaster and still not even out of beta), but gamers have to look at themselves at some point. The change starts on this end. What do you think would happen if everyone collectively decided to not play D4 for a day, or a week, or a month? This absolutely will not happen because people as a whole are not smart enough to do this, but this is how you create change. The power has always been in the consumers hands, and if people didn’t buy mtx do you think they would exist? Possibly, but not as they do today. Not nearly in the same form. The other problem is blizzard really doesn’t give two shits about making a good game when it sold like it did and continues to generate revenue. There is no incentive for them to. If people pay for a mediocre product and continue to use it, why would I spend resources to make it better? That’s the main reason we are where we are with changes like you mentioned. Just wait until the pricing on the expansion hits. Expect no less than $50, plenty of hype, people will buy it, then complain more later. Again. All while blizzard execs reap the benefits and buy their fourth house and second yacht.

[@Maoujisan]

This may be the last time Blizzard has a chance to start setting D4 on a 'better' path. But, if they do fail badly again, I don't believe this game will reach a fraction of their other life services. Honestly, I already stopped during the 2~3 Seasons, after checking what they were about, but this upcoming update got me interested, but I will not let my self be hopeful yet.

[@sermerlin1]

The expansion is the last time blizzard has a chance. It was always like that with diablo games since Diablo 2. Diablo 2 was also disaster at launch people hated it and disliked it very much so as it ruined everything that diablo 1 stood for. Everything changed for the better after expansion set LoD and once they patched it up people thought it was greatest. Diablo 3 met same exact fate. At launch it was just disaster and people hated it and disliked it because it's nothing that D2 stood for. After expansion set and patching up people found it to be great game. So.... D4 launched... And here we are. People hate it, dislike it very much so.

[@emanl84]

Bought the game due to spring sales. This might be the most flatlined, utterly boring, uninteresting, graphically unsurprising, spell-effect depressing arpg game I have ever played, and definitely the worst game Blizzard has ever produced. Jesus D4 sucks.

[@johnreeves5152]

"Doubt it's going to happen for at least a year." Challenge accepted.

[@KarmaWolf63]

Thanks Rhykker for another great and very informative video. Might I add you may be the most adult streamer meaning the most capable of delivering good and bad news on games without being Juvenile and you always provide CONSTRUCTIVE thoughts to improve an idea or certain aspect rather than just complain and whine like MANY others in this realm do. It is easy to complain it takes maturity and wisdom to complain but offer a path to redemption and that is very rare indeed so thank you for doing that. It is refreshing and honestly makes me happy that people like you still game because if not it would just be a bunch of grown up toddlers throwing their food at the floor and that does nothing for gaming at all. So Thank you for being a mature adult. You are the Gandalf of gaming, wise and calm.

[@jasonsecretsword7606]

Season 4 is the game we deserved

[@Djuntas]

Yep hate how imo not big changes was not even thought or tested. Now were close to Diablo 3…Well still no build change help.

[@robertlefeaux]

That's what they said before seasons 1, 2, and 3.

[@jessed6838]

Those of us who owned D4 pre gamepass should get access to the expansion included!

[@DMT-ix9zj]

Me i never bought Diablo 4 i seen this coming so i'll wait for the 20$ sale whenever it is. But you all playing f everyone if you're having fun. Just play and have a blast and hope certain issues get fixed for a game you like.

[@jasonschumacher7414]

i had it on day one and I play it every day forawhile I dont care what others do or think about it I am having fun while waiting for fixes.

[@deadkodo]

It is on gamepass now so if you have that you can play for what you are currently paying anyway

[@b.a.r.gaming2124]

Well said

[@LongToad]

It definitely gets more hate than it deserves. I think at its current state it's slightly worse than Diablo 3 (currently) but I still think it was worth the cost and is likely to get better. -I honestly think people ruin the fun for themselves because they can't look passed their bias. Some builds can actually be quite fun and nuanced towards the endgame, problem is the levels between 1-70 you're running out of resources in ~3 attacks and don't have a whole lot of options in terms of builds.

[@draw2death421]

Why do you hate everyone who play d4 dmt?

[@mezmir]

im happy you mentioned how much you enjoy items that alter the way skils work rather than numerical values, thats been my biggest gripe since release. everything feels very samey with significantly less ways to alter function than like D3 for example.

[@diction8714]

I waited for D4 on game pass, and honestly having a blast in the campaign (so far). Kind of confused why everyone hates the game.

[@Connor-bp9nu]

Because they’re told to hate the game so they do

[@stonaraptor8196]

For me, after playing D2 on and off since 2002 D4 was kind of a big deal. I got bored after 90 or 100 hours and pretty much all my friends as well.

[@naturalbornnerd3430]

The campaign and pre-WT4 are great. Amazing even. It's the endgame that is very, very, very much lacking. The game feels very unrewarding post level 80.

[@Graner31]

The campaign is fantastic but that is literally it. If youre looking for anything fun or entertaining after you will not find it. @connor-bp9nu you are delusional if you think that is why people don't like the game

[@diction8714]

​@@stonaraptor8196 I think playing a game for 90 hours means that it's pretty good no? It seems like this standard of a game having 3000 hours of content for it to be good is going to be unachievable for most.

[@dbmartin7105]

Not hyping myself up this time brother! But I would love to like playing Necromancer again

[@nataschajordan6053]

the problem with putting skill customization on items is following: you cant plan, you cant build - cause you first have to find it - and what until then? play a broken build? no skill customization in the tree IS INHERENTLY BAD.

[@W.M.1]

Rng upon Rng, gearing is all Rng too now.

[@333HalfEvol333]

This. Thank you. And dont forget right now the itemization is based ok scaling and obsolescense of previous "tiers". So it's utter trash

[@mcroyale_lover]

thats literally every single rpg/mmorpg in existence ?? go play fortnite or cod if u want instant gratification

[@DoctorStrange01]

Agree on lack of SKILL customization, but lack of items due to RNG ? That's literally what ARPGs are all about : killing stuff until you find items that make your character stronger in any way. At least you can target farm some stuff.

[@nataschajordan6053]

@@DoctorStrange01 the problem is when skill variety is on gear, then your skills become subject to rng - thats what i meant. thats why skill variety belongs to the tree, so its NOT rng. im ok the way d3 was - some variation in the skills, some on gear. but having literally ALL variation on gear means i can only play a tornado druid, IF i happen to find the build efining item to begin with. thats bad design imo.

[@ashwinvangrevenhof4056]

You took me back to my teenage newgrounds years with that "ring, ring, ring, Banana phone!" Loved it

[@sevalle]

Both me and the wife are playing necropolis league, it’s our first league and we’re enjoying it a lot!! We seem to be a lot slower than others, I’m level 21 on Act 2…well we do have kids and life outside of games as well.

[@randomhero6365]

It's a good league. I like that it gets you involved early. Good thing you guys didn't start last league because that one was really over the top.

[@Rizarjay]

Banana Phone got me. LOL

[@jiffyd22]

Until Blizzard does a redo of the “skill twigs” to be fun like Last Epoch, I’ll just pass and play other things.

[@oOKilKennyOo]

nice and good for you, but why commenting it here? write that to the devs, not us

[@DoctorStrange01]

@@oOKilKennyOo It's probably because people have been telling Blizzard that and there's no effect, lmao. They've literally "remade" (which is an overstatement though) the entire skill "tree" after the announcement of D4 because of how much backlash it got for having basically no options, so they took the idea, added a few new skills and called it a day. That's still far from what a 2024 ARPG should have, there should be like at least a few more options with a few more passives per active skill in every CLUSTER. Good luck playing 2-3 skills per class every season.

[@oOKilKennyOo]

@@DoctorStrange01 and again why tell it here? Annoy the devs with it and not us

[@KingBahamut14]

@@oOKilKennyOo He's not annoying anyone lol, if you're getting annoyed because someonse said some criticism about a game, then that's on you

[@DoctorStrange01]

@@oOKilKennyOo Brother, you seem to have a main character syndrome, no ? What even is this question and why are you speaking for everyone ? Lmao. "Annoy the devs not us" this gotta be a joke or trolling, ain't no way you're being serious. You are not forced to read AND reply to comments on youtube, just FYI. Just ignore and scroll, problem solved for you.

[@Steph1]

Druid resource per second plus good companions will probably make me try it again

[@jaysoniorg2950]

I love how all the fan boys cry, whine, and throw huge hissy fits over people speaking ill of the game, when in reality, the only reason Blizzard has fixed anything is because people are talking bad about the game. To the couple hundred still playing this game, it's okay if you like it. You don't have to convince the rest of the 10M + that quit, to come back. We'll just keep doing the heavy lifting for you. We don't need your thanks.

[@edgezero1557]

They aren't fixing bc others are talking bad, they are fixing bc no one is playing. While related they are different things.

[@jaysoniorg2950]

@@edgezero1557 They wouldn't know what to fix without the negative feedback, though. If they had any clue what they were doing, they would have just made a good game to begin with.

[@edgezero1557]

@@jaysoniorg2950 most of the issues were known, or common sense. They rolled the dice and lost.

[@Stoltzy92]

I'll actually be impressed with changes to Diablo 4 when they introduce an offline mode to it.

[@BlazingWolfTV]

This is not the old good blizzard... this is money hungry activision blizzard. D4 was one of the biggest disappointments.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Not Activision any more. Lol

[@podlbog]

from many ears blizzard not exist, Microsoft only use the name, the real name is combined activision with Microsoft- MICROVISION 🤣🤣🤣

[@pcallycat9043]

Agreed. People still haven’t accepted that the blizzard that loved games and gamers had been gone for a very long time.

[@aToxicJester]

Blizzard hasnt been the same since they released overwatch. I used to be a Blizzard fan boy but damn they fell from grace a long time ago.

[@guillaumeinjjuz1744]

To me its the best game of 2023

[@screamingiraffe]

THe changes are like taking old food from the frig, tossing it all into a blender and say 'hey, here's something new'. Perhaps that's enough for the masses

[@lukebrady65]

We really need the ability in Diablo 4 to easily be able to change builds on the fly the same way you could in Diablo 3. The fact that it's still not in the game is mind-boggling.

[@z0ttel89]

No. We do not need that at all. Character identity is extremely important in ARPGS, D3 has shown that in a bad way. This isn't Call of Duty, keep your 'loadouts' someplace else.

[@lukebrady65]

@z0ttel89 This has nothing to do with character identity. Someone can only play the same build for a certain amount of time before the game becomes boring and repetitive. Having build diversity is extremely important, and having the tools to easily switch things around is also extremely important. The current system of manually having to change everything is a massive chore and headache and completely unnecessary. Not having these tools doesn't prevent the player from changing their build anywhere, so your argument is redundant.

[@DjZephy]

The idea that legendary powers and/or unique items should modify the way a skill behaves... I think it's absurd... There was none of this in Diablo 2, the greatest Diablo game of all. I mean there is something like a Buriza having 100% pierce, but that's not some absurd extreme thing that completely alters how abilities work. The only reason they did that for Diablo 3 is because loot 1.0 was so terrible, and then they decided to swing to the opposite extreme and add a bunch of extreme effects to uniques and set items, and that's why D3 itemization is absurd. As soon as they released loot 2.0 with the ridiculous "legendary powers" (can you imagine a cheesier sounding phrase?) everyone became 10000% entitled to having more and more powerful legendary affects on everything, to the point that people are totally insane now. They want a sword that turns their melee attack into a meteor that falls from the sky and then turns into a black hole that has other black holes orbitting it... It's totally out of control and it's really embarassing to be a gamer and see what is happening there. Then you have other companies trying to out-do each other by making the legendary affects more and more over the top and ridiculous. How am I the only person that realizes how out of control it's gotten? Where are the normal, sensible people in this world?! The problem with this kind of "design" (besides that it is completely fucking stupid and embarrassingly self-indulgent) is that it encourages the "game designer" to make abilities really boring and underpowered by default, so that the players NEED the stupid "legendary" to make it actually viable.... It really makes me want to vomit thinking of the entire thing. But the most revolting part of all is imagining all the fattest, nerdiest gamers pounding on their computer desks saying "I want my legendaries!!! Me Need more legendaries!!! OOOOOOOO I just found another LEGENDARY!!!" It's really disgusting.

[@kingoverseas9052]

Blizzard: "Nobody reads this shit." Blizzard, you have more eyes on you than ever before, and not for the right reasons. Watch your greedy selves.

[@lukaslauermann1984]

Honestly, the feature that the D4 patch will add that I'm most exited about it that we finally can zoom out more 👌🏻

[@kolai1987]

That and the codex change are fire

[@ccdsah]

Well, we have PTR to see how it will be?

[@melomanoviajero]

If you put this at 1.5x speed, background music sounds like mariachis band 😂😂 Thanks for the info!

[@Caac0483]

That EULA cannot be legal.

[@kylesmith987]

Depends on what part you are talking about. The part where you don't own the game is true and has been the case for basically as long as digital media has existed. What you purchase is a license to access the service that is the game. This is true for basically all digital services. As for the part where you cannot file a lawsuit, it is not legally binding at least not in the US. This is a scare tactic to prevent people from suing blizzard en masse for dumb reasons. In America your right to file a lawsuit is covered under the first amendment of the bill of rights and you cannot sign away your rights.

[@s3orz]

So Blizzard made some games that were really good 20 years ago. Maybe a few good early expansions for WoW, can't speak for them all only got BC and WOLTK. Gave up on OW and SC? Botched D3 for years.. till it was finally playable. Outsourced their remakes.. D2r is okay right? Released D4 with no endgame, announced an expansion within a few seasons of not much added content. Battle-pass = cosmetics (should of been in the game to begin with) , so that 60-100 game is now what $100-150 before the paid expansion and still not done? What has Blizzard done that's worth Blizzard hype from 20 years ago? Blizzard = Nostalgia which will always be a strong feeling for anyone, but really how long can they ride it, how long will people keep buying it?

[@Horned26]

Hello folks I like season 4 changes 💪🏻

[@tlee656]

I think the more impressive thing here is that ALL of these D4 changes are for the Eternal Realm too! I know that many don't play Eternal anymore, but for those that want to keep playing their original characters, this is a HUGE win! Edit to add: One thing I don't like about The Pit currently is that there's no real incentive for co-op play, since only the opener gets the real loot. Maybe grant the players that didn't open the portal have something like a 25% chance to spawn some of the mats for Masterworking. This way, co-op play will be more encouraged. BUT, that's what this PTR will show, imho. Imagine the Infinimist potential now!!!

[@heimdallcvl]

Solo players were already at a big disadvantage regarding co-op (Duriel farm, for instance). Not everyone likes co-op (me being one of them) and what you suggest would pretty much force you to play co-op to be competitive / efficient on farming. This is not an MMO so co-op shouldn't need to be incentivized, you should be able to get the same benefits either solo or co-oping. So much so, that one of the things they are taking into consideration is making the game more "friendly" for solo playing.

[@tlee656]

@@heimdallcvl But by virtue of having the mats only available to drop for the opener of the Pit, that pretty much makes this a solo-only experience. Sure others can join, but why would they when they have no chance at getting that reward? Seems counter-intuitive, for a game encouraging playing with friends, no?

[@heimdallcvl]

@@tlee656 because if you cared about leaderboards / being competitive it would force you to play co-op, no matter your preference in playstyle. Let's not forget this is an ARPG, not a MMO, therefore co-op playing shouldn't be incentivized or rewarded versus playing solo.

[@tlee656]

@@heimdallcvl That's a matter of opinion, and I respect your right to have it. I'm a fan of the notion that more choices for players should always be preferred.

[@heimdallcvl]

@@tlee656 imho, I think "the pit", bosses and so on should work like this: 1) Co-op party: same loot to everyone, despite who uses the summoning mats. 2) Solo playing: rewards x4. That way it wouldn't "force" you to play in parties to be efficient. This would, on the other hand, probably make solo playing quicker/more efficient than co-op, if you have a OP class/build, which can easily solo the content. Let's not forget that it's also not only the masterworking materials that drops but the rest of the loot, in the pit or Duriel. Again, co-op is already busted when compared to solo playing, it's not a case of preference, it's how the game works right now, and it makes no sense, in my opinion, to widen that gap even further.

[@chazhartwayne6493]

0:09 Yes, of course.

[@alexbarcan4705]

From start until 0:26 / 38:15 - you must be trully stupid to begin a video like this. Seriously Rhykker, had some better hopes from you. It just doesn't matter anymore how the game is or will be - the fact that you keep doing ans talk about the same crap over and over and over again ad infinitum makes me really want to un-sub from your channel. Crazy shit.

[@pmgpc69]

Thank you for uploading this video! Keep up the great work.

[@MJC1891]

Diablo 4 felt more like a chore than a game.

[@jaydeus]

Yep. I felt like I was checking off my chores list so I didn't get grounded. No allowance. Played about 20hrs and went back to Dark Souls 3 for another hundred hours

[@KeithElliott-zd8cx]

the 'putting new skill uses' on loot is AMAZING. Not only does it avoid skill tree bloat if, fireball can do like 8 things, but gives getting primo loot THAT much more importance, and adds to build variety. POE's whole thing is mostly skills are moddable, while borderlands added a TON of more varied builds, with legendary class mods having unique build defining effects.

[@BobMotster]

The hype is warranted. Changes are excellent and are giving us more freedom in crafting and building characters that we feel as our own more than ever before (including the previous titles in the series).

[@evanwater3633]

Highly doubt I'll reinstall it. But good to see it going down a better path

[@Umbraso]

So if I never install and/or buy another Blizzard game ever again, I don't have to agree to that bullshit? Ok, heard you loud and clear Blizzard.

[@sergeles]

Making rares completely obsolete after lvl 70ish or so because they have less affixes than legendaries is a bad decision IMHO.

[@Ganking553]

wow first OMG. my answer yes it will help the game alot, its the start of doing the right changes not the end. blizzard is rebuilding their foundation now

[@jerryboics9550]

Is this sarcasm? Surely no one could be that gullible..

[@Ganking553]

@@jerryboics9550 why sarcasm?

[@JaedoDrax]

I enjoy parts of playing, but have to wonder why some of this couldn't be in place almost a year ago for release

[@DummyThinksThoughts]

I think the content creators and the hater community talk too much for the "community" while the actual "diablo communty" is playing the game .

[@Kazyek]

17:22 "They want to make X build a thing" is the root of the main issue I have with D4. They didn't learn anything from D2 / MTG / PoE ? The fun is when you sprinkle a lot of random seemingly useless stats and things and players eventually find out broken interactions between them. Build originating from players finding interactions devs would have never tought of are WAAAAY more fun than generic "dev-intended" builds.

[@TheRockemsockm]

The Skill tree being boring and worthless means boring and worthless gameplay until you hit end game and farm the right uniques and legendries. I quit every season long before I finish a build because I don't play ARPRG's to farm materials to summon a boss.

[@michaelkrynski7793]

I got on Xbox today and noticed that it was available. This might actually get me to buy game pass for a month! :)

[@CMald]

NO TIMESTAMPS?

[@grumdiddlydoo3559]

Not built into the video, but still provided in the video description.

[@rafyWolo]

Super excited for these changes! Really excited about season 4!

[@jroc1176]

People need to think for themselves. If you like the changes or not, at least come to that conclusion on your own. It’s that simple.

[@eternalbones5749]

Nah, at this point I have zero hopes that they'll get it right. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[@danielray6060]

Reasons for failure: 1. No supports for group play 2. Trying to reinvent the wheel when D3 has already perfected the greater rift. 3. Gliffs should be universal so that it gives you a reason to make a speed build

[@h347h]

They just made gearing more of a grind and peoeple are excited about. Like wake up guys.

[@MegaCynar]

Yes. The answer is yes.

[@flexibleknot]

Great video! I, for one, am expecting this patch to fix everything both in-game and in real life.

[@CrowFuu]

Ive said it once, Ill say it again. If the only thing to do in EndGame is go for Gear, the Game is Dead. Give us a Dopamine Hit of Leveling up Infinitely like a RPG is SUPPOSED TO do when we play. Players want a Reward for Time Investment, its that simple. Why would someone play a Game for Years just to get slightly better Gear on Classes they have Maxed everything out within Year 1 of Launch? This is what kills ARPGs....

[@stanthemighty]

so basically they're finally using d3 as a reference point.... in season 4 lol at this rate the game might be "good" in 3 or 4 years.

[@vintagemonte]

content creators: we don’t want diablo 4 to fail also content creators:

[@ogge9296]

Lol agreed. I really don't get why Rhykker tried to stir up drama about a patch that pretty much everyone seem positive about.

[@kinneyfraser4003]

I mean saying they want for d4 to fail is kinda dumb since if any games fails they also lose from it but they 100% are riding any "d4 bad" trains wherever they are available.

[@DrDanielRoberto]

24:30 Okay you got me good there dude lmao

[@itsnobbie1212]

And it's the so-called "influencers" who fuel the disappointment.

[@Mijkami]

Can't blame the fuel when Blizzard provides a huge bonfire in the first place. Never forget that.

[@itsnobbie1212]

@@Mijkami Blizzard-bashing seems to be a business model these days.

[@mindezz]

To reach max level of the pit might take at least a year. Rob: hold my beer

[@T1tusCr0w]

Naw dog. He only drinks his beer from a foam dome hat 🧢. It’s more efficient 🤣

[@dazann6747]

Honestly, at this point, anyone getting excited for a Blizzard game gets what they deserve. If it's Blizzard, expect to be disappointed, with the expectation that you are paying to beta test their game for 2 years while they fix it.

[@JacksDeadInside]

“Gets what they deserve” is genuinely so weird. It’s just a video game. Relax lmao

[@Folgers333]

Soooo Diablo 4’s ACTUAL release date is May 14th, 2024…

[@Vo0Do0o]

Diablo 4 season 4 will bomb. Count on it. The devs are completely incompetent.

[@Schwacked]

Care to explain why exactly?

[@scottstout6836]

Season 4 will be ok, but not awesome. Season 5 will be a turd, just like season 1 and 3.

[@michaelmayhem350]

​@@Schwacked I'm not saying op is right but the game has been out nearly a year and with how many patches before the devs finally thought hey we should ptr this patch... And the ptr is still only on pc which is baffling OW before it was ruined had ptr for upcoming changes on pc and console..

[@jf2849]

Id say no season 4 will definitely not bomb it’ll be pretty good. However i do believe the second part is correct the devs are completely incompetent.

[@Se7qtum]

I totally agree, they are absolutely completely incompetent. There is no reason for D4 to be this bad at launch if it wasn’t for a reason, compare it to Last Epoch and PoE where they nailed a lot of things at launch that is standard by todays measure. Blizzard has 13000 employees. D4 was the last time I ever gave my money to Blizzard, I’m so done.

[@MikkiZHskDK]

Skill effect changing as it level up up is a huge win if it works as promised back then

[@darcraven01]

1:22 star trek's galaxy only has the alpha, beta, gamma, and delta quadrents.. there is no omega quadrent. so if the game has an omega quadrent its wrong. lol

[@MrGoesBoom]

Gonna be interesting to see how that change to Blizz's EULA turns out...pretty sure stuff like that has gone to court before and been proven to be unenforceable...damned if I can remember the specific incident(s) but pretty sure it was recent.

[@Folgers333]

I can’t believe it took an entire year to make the game playable. I seriously think they should give a 50% off the first expansion to those that purchased at launch

[@matthewkeating-od6rl]

D3 was less addictive then d2 now d4 is less addictive then d3 im sorry but im just enjoying d2 resurrected s6 with builds and gear ideas i have gotten further then i have before (only 70) so im hyped about that.